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Fwd: [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: [Squares] A short animated video to attack stereotypes of Greek people - help spread in Germany
by Michel Bauwens 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Orsan Senalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:48 PM Subject: [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: [Squares] A short animated video to attack stereotypes of Greek people - help spread in Germany To: networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org Begin forwarded message: *From:* Emma AT <emma.av.th(a)gmail.com> *Date:* 13 Feb 2015 13:44:28 GMT+1 *To:* lista squares <squares(a)lists.takethesquare.net> *Subject:* *[Squares] A short animated video to attack stereotypes of Greek people - help spread in Germany* *Reply-To:* squares(a)lists.takethesquare.net Hola! I am forwarding you great work done by a Greek group of volunteers regarding the terrible image portrayed of the Greeks in Europe and specially in Germany. This is an email *specifically addressed to our German colleagues* to HELP spread, share, publish... the Alex video available now in German (also in English <http://omikronproject.gr/alex1> for those who want to spread it elsewhere). Here their intro (English & German below), video and contact details: ********************************************** *Greek people are having a tough time these days – especially in German media! With the coverage of the ongoing debt crisis talks, stereotypes in Germany of Greeks as ungrateful, corrupt, lazy etc. have never been stronger.* So we present to you... the GERMAN version of our *short animated video “Alex”*, which attacks negative stereotypes of Greeks! Let’s balance the debate in Germany about Greek people once and for all :) This was translated and broadcast by ARTE TV, and is now available online: http://www.arte.tv/arte_vp/index.php?json_url=http%3A%2F%2Ffuture.arte.tv%2… Or if you would like to embed it on a website, you can use: <script type="text/javascript" src=" https://www-secure.arte.tv/arte_vp/embed.php?json_url=http%3A%2F%2Ffuture.a… "></script> We are Omikron Project, a volunteer group from Greece that makes productions to tell the untold side of Greece's crisis. Would you be interested in spreading and covering our video, or Omikron Project in general? If you'd like to interview us, contact us and we'll arrange it! Cheers, Omikron Project Telephone: Konstantina +30 695 1656 181 www.omikronproject.gr -------------------------------------- *Kurzes Animationsvideo gegen negative Stereotypen, die die Griechen angreifen* Wir sind Omikron Project, eine Gruppe von Volontären aus Griechenland, die mit Produktionen, die nicht erzählte Geschichte der Griechenlandkrise, darstellt. Heute veröffentlichen wir die deutsche Version unseres kurzen Animationsvideos "Alex" , die die Stereotypen über die Griechen so faul , korrupt etc. attackiert. Das Video wurde von ARTE TV übersetzt und ausgestrahlt, und ist jetzt online zu sehen. Sie können das Video auf dem folgenden Link sehen http://www.arte.tv/arte_vp/index.php?json_url=http%3A%2F%2Ffuture.arte.tv%2… Oder, wenn Sie möchten, dass es auf einer Website embed ist, können Sie folgendes verwenden: <script type="text/javascript" src=" https://www-secure.arte.tv/arte_vp/embed.php?json_url=http%3A%2F%2Ffuture.a… "></script> Hätten Sie Interesse einer Berichterstattung über unser Video oder Omikron Projekt im Allgemeinen? Wir stehen Ihnen gerne zu Verfügung, antworten Sie einfach auf diese E-Mail und wir werden es arrangieren ! Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Konstantina Zoehrer Omikron Project Mobilnummer: +30 695 1656 181 www.omikronproject.gr _______________________________________________ n-1 working group: https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/104127/take-the-square-international/ Squares mailing list Squares(a)lists.takethesquare.net for unsubscribe/etc: https://lists.takethesquare.net/mailman/listinfo/squares or Squares-owner(a)lists.takethesquare.net _______________________________________________ NetworkedLabour mailing list NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: Lake District Festival: Jem's Quarterly #1
by Michel Bauwens 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jem Bendell <jb(a)jembendell.com> Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:53 PM Subject: Lake District Festival: Jem's Quarterly #1 To: Michel <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> Greetings Michel Even when corresponding with someone it's rare we both know all the relevant things eachother is doing. So I've decided to start a quarterly round up. As we’ve written to each other in the last two years, I'm including you in this initiative. If you dont want to get a round up from me every 3 months, I'm sorry, please click click unsubscribe <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage1.com/unsubscribe?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…> and choose "not interested". Still here? Good, as my main reason for writing is to invite you to a festival I’m organising <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> this summer on the shores of England’s largest lake. It’s on the themes of leadership, sustainability and wellbeing and will bring together famous cultural leaders, leadership trainers and academics from over 30 countries. Speakers include Indian actor Nandita Das, author Charles Eisenstein, and PR guru Lynne Franks. For 3 days from July 16th at Brathay Hall, there’ll be music, kayaking, nature walks, yoga, tai chi, dance lessons, and storytelling workshops. Oh, and some academic papers! Deadline for submitting abstracts <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> is March 16th. As it is during the summer holidays, we are providing a free children's programme of professionally run outdoor activities - and babysitting. The research festival is preceded by a 6 day course on sustainable leadership <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> that I’m teaching. The festival and course are organised by the Institute <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…> I founded in 2012. At the bottom of this update I list more talks and workshops I’m doing in the coming months in Geneva, Copenhagen, Cape Town, London, Lancaster, and Ambleside (yay!). But first, I want to share some of my recent creations. After "coming out" as a monetary activist in 2011, with a TEDx that nears 100,000 views <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…>, I wanted to connect this agenda to my prior two decades of work on sustainable business. The result is the free introduction to my latest book ‘Healing Capitalism’ <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> . Last year I also had the opportunity in my Inaugural Professorial lecture <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> to explain my view of both education and sustainability as exercises in liberation, not control. This is the philosophy behind the courses we launched last year, and the thinking is further explained in a new Occasional Paper (pdf) <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…> I wrote with Richard Little from the leadership development consultants Impact International. The Institute has a big year ahead of it. We are launching a portfolio of short courses <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…> with Impact International, new MBAs on sustainability themes with the Robert Kennedy College <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…>, and a specialist leadership development Masters <http://boardmember.odt>, which I’ll be designing and teaching. You can even pay with Bitcoin for this last course: something that put me on the BBC breakfast sofa <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> last year. If any of these topics interest you, then do engage in the Sustainable Leaders linked in group <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…>, or see my latest musings at www.jembendell.com <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> Over the next month I’m teaching my first ever Mass Open Online Course (MOOC). It’s on the topic of Money and Society. If you are interested, read about it here <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…>, and if interested join us with the next 48 hours here <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…> (otherwise the next offering is in August). I’ll also be doing some research with the Sustainable Stock Exchanges <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> initiative at the UN and finishing a book on NGO Leadership and Accountability. But what I’m really looking forward to is taking up DJ-ing again at the Leading Wellbeing festival <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…>. See you there! *Upcoming talks and workshops:* - March 18-21 London, UK: Lecturing on Sustainable Exchange masters module <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> . - March 19 London, UK: Panellist at Tomorrow’s Transactions Forum <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> . - March 30 Geneva, Switzerland: Disruptive Leadership, talk at Hub Geneva. <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> - May 16 Copenhagen, Denmark: Keynote on Leadership, Transition World opening summit <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…> . - May 18-21 Ambleside, UK: Workshop on Values-Inspired Leadership, at Impact International <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…> . - June TBC Cape Town, South Africa: Escaping Monetary Apartheid. A lecture. Date and venue will be confirmed via www.jembendell.com <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> - June 16 Ambleside, UK: Disruptive Leadership: Innovating major changes for sustainability, Open Lecture at Institute for Leadership and Sustainability <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…>, University of Cumbria. - June 17 and 18 Carlisle and Lancaster, UK. Engagement and Influence: How to Communicate Your Work, a workshop at the University of Cumbria. Request attendance via iflas(a)cumbria.ac.uk - July 10-15 Lecturing on the Certificate of Achievement in Sustainable Leadership <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> . - July 16 Ambleside, UK: Opening Address at Leading Wellbeing Research Festival, July 16-18. <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> *Postscript* My next update will be mid-May. So for more frequent info, join the Sustainable Leaders Linked In group. <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> If you are wondering what happened to Lifeworth <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787b…>, the jobs portal moved to www.globethics.net <http://lifeworth.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c58fbb0d721b1e5f3e4787bd…> and my colleague Ian Doyle developed the consulting practice further. He has been collaborating with GIZ for the last four years in its efforts to develop CSR capacity as part of its programme ‘Bonne Gouvernance dans le Secteur Minier’. In 2015, he will advising on the development of a mining standard for mining companies based in Katanga. 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Sex and Security! Fossbox Privacy Workshops
by furtherfield 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

Sex and Security! Fossbox Privacy Workshops When: 7th & 22nd March 2015 Venue: Furtherfield Commons A two-day event by Fossbox in collaboration with Furtherfield and Autonomous Tech Fetish around surveillance, gender and society. The event will consist of a practical privacy workshop followed by a day of discussion, making and performance. Open to everyone, women/LGBTQ especially welcome. Practical workshop on privacy and security: 7 March, 11am A focused exploration of the issues around sexuality, gender and surveillance. Visit this Meetup Group to join. Discussion workshops - sex and surveillance: 22 March, 11am A workshop using play, performance and discussion to develop a better understanding and a more collectivised civil response around these issues. Visit this Meetup Group to join. If you're hazy about how digital mass surveillance works and what you can do, you'll get most out of it by attending both workshops. If you already know about the tech side, you might want to help out at the practical workshop! More Info http://www.furtherfield.org/programmes/event/sex-and-security

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] [Commoning] [commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament
by Anna Harris 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

Thank you Francine. We have long been supporters of UBI here locally, which is part of the Green Party's manifesto. An allowance which is not means tested, and therefore avoids the expensive structure required for means testing, plus the suspicious atmosphere generated by accusations of fraud, is appealing. But the fact that it is available to those with high incomes, who don't need it, doesn't seem fair. I have not had time to read your proposals in detail, social commons certainly brings in other possibilities. Do you have a working group looking at this that I could join? I would like to hear Ursula Huws opinions of this too, since she has written on UBI. Anna On 13 Feb 2015, at 05:15, Francine Mestrum <mestrum(a)skynet.be> wrote: Dear all, Should a commons-oriented economy not be accompanied by a commons-oriented social policy? I have been working in the past years on a project of ‘social commons’, in between traditional social protection and basic income. I just finished a book on the topic, but that obviously is not available yet. In the meantime I send you a contribution for a conference in Spain some months ago. I would be happy if you could take a look at it and give me your comments. Thanks a lot in advance, Francine Mestrum Global Social Justice www.globalsocialjustice.eu Brussels Van: NetworkedLabour [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Vasilis Kostakis Verzonden: 12 February 2015 15:48 Aan: Örsan Şenalp CC: Vasilis Niaros; networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org; tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net; David Bollier; p2p-foundation; Roberto Verzola; Commoning; Eleftherios Kosmas; Wolfgang Hoeschele; George Papanikolaou; Commoning List; George Pór Onderwerp: Re: [NetworkedLabour] [Commoning] [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament Dear all, With the chance of the Greek vice-president's statement, the RNS asked me to write a short article about the Syriza and the Commons. Based on some recent posts of mine at the P2Pf blog, the following text might be of interest: Syriza’s new plan for economic development: a Commons-oriented economy? : http://nurkseschool.tumblr.com/post/110811291631/syrizas-new-plan-for-econo… By the way, this year the CommonsFest is taking place in Athens. See more: http://commonsfest.info/en/ Best, Vasilis On 12 February 2015 at 11:28, Örsan Şenalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> wrote: There are comrades in the EP, like Tommaso Fattori who can make the link best, in my opinon, between the commons and syriza. we could may be ask them? orsan On 12 February 2015 at 09:55, George Pór <george.por(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> > wrote: >> >> Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in >> Greece... >> > Maybe with a focus on fighting for and working with a Partner State, in > collaboration with our Greek and Spanish commoner friends and > commons-supporters in Syriza and Podemos... > > george >> >> >> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:52:05 -0700 >> "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> wrote: >> >> > Dear Friends, >> > >> > Very interesting discussion! >> > >> > I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p >> > concepts directly with the Greek government? How much are they in >> > touch with these movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be >> > useful to them if networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) >> > there are proponents of a new approach around Europe and elsewhere >> > (i.e., Syriza is not alone in searching for new alternatives that >> > break the "grow like mad or die" alternative?), and 2) there are >> > actual models that can be implemented and there are people both >> > inside and outside Greece who can help make it possible? >> > >> > It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek >> > negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new >> > approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a >> > resumption of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results >> > for Greek politics, because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would >> > then turn). So, if we can do something internationally to help in >> > this process, it might be very important to do so now. Since there >> > are Greek participants in this list, I would very much like to hear >> > from you what you think about this. >> > >> > By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, >> > when my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is >> > that personal connection! >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Wolfgang >> > >> > >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely >> > endorses commons strategy before parliament >> > From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> >> > Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm >> > To: Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >> > Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, >> > p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, Commoning >> > <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, >> > "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, >> > Commoning List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >> > >> > Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >> > Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 >> > (not to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an >> > important statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to >> > the commons ideas. >> > >> > Best regards >> > George >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> > <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sorry for my previous half finished >> > message. >> > >> > Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to >> > translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and >> > linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not >> > be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >> > >> > "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> > >> > The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> > commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> > of the commons personally and in public is the following. >> > >> > I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with >> > a general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events >> > happening that only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and >> > now a historic era, characterized not only by the crisis and the >> > collapse of obsolete models, but we live a crisis that eventually >> > spawned new models and new social organization models, as was done in >> > the past. In this sense, then, this is an opportunity to take up the >> > deficits of the past, to close this modernization deficit, but by >> > addressing the contemporary social problem of unemployment, social >> > security and social exclusion. This could establish a new paradigm in >> > Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining advanced >> > forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >> > strong foundation of common goods, a society-centric model, which >> > would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, >> > optimism in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the >> > Guenna-pig of austerity and destruction could be the a ground of >> > pioneering ideas and policies, and the benefit would not be just for >> > us. The world would become a security goal in a region of insecurity >> > and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the symbiosis of >> > different development models inside. Let's not rush some say that >> > these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are >> > those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >> > the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in >> > Greece and worldwide. Thank you. >> > >> > >> > Greek speakers could find the original here. >> > >> > http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >> > >> > I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> > <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr >> > Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind >> > that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek >> > language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am >> > not a trained translator) >> > >> > "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> > >> > The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> > commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> > of the commons. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list >> > <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: understood Vasilis, >> > >> > but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >> > and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when >> > conditions are right .. >> > >> > so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >> > the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer >> > term change, >> > >> > Michel >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis >> > <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: Michel, >> > >> > The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >> > anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >> > However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was >> > what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George >> > Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he >> > highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south >> > can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, >> > George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the >> > situation and give us time for experimentation". >> > >> > Let's see... >> > >> > v. >> > >> > On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens >> > <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: This is very important news: >> > >> > perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >> > especially in english ? >> > >> > see: >> > >> > " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >> > speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new >> > bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global >> > orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable >> > development." >> > >> > -- >> > Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> > http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> > >> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> > >> > Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> > >> > #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >> > >> > Senior Research Fellow >> > Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >> > >> > Research Director >> > P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> > http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> > >> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> > >> > Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> > >> > #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > P2P Foundation - Mailing list >> > http://www.p2pfoundation.net >> > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://elkosmas.gr >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://elkosmas.gr >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Commoning mailing list >> > Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> > Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> > https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Commoning mailing list >> Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning > > > > _______________________________________________ > Commoning mailing list > Commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de > http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning > -- Dr. Vasilis Kostakis Senior Research Fellow Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance Research Director P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org <The social commons-Valladolid (2).docx> _______________________________________________ NetworkedLabour mailing list NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour

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MA in Social Media, Culture & Society@University of Westminster
by Christian Fuchs 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

Dear colleagues, Please consider forwarding this information to undergraduate students who may be interested in social/digital media... Thank you... Best, Christian Fuchs -- MA in Social Media, Culture & Society, University of Westminster Programme leaders: Christian Fuchs, Graham Meikle Full time (1 year) or part time (2 years) Open application for students starting in autumn 2015 This MA provides students with the opportunity to study social media in its societal, political, regulatory, industrial and cultural contexts. The teaching is research-inspired and connected to the University of Westminster's Centre for Social Media Research (http://www.westminster.ac.uk/csmr) that is located within the Communication and Media Research Institute (http://www.westminster.ac.uk/camri) that in the recent Research Excellence Framework (REF) 2014 has been ranked as one of Britain's leading institutions in media and communication studies (http://results.ref.ac.uk/Results/ByUoa/36) It is the home of some of the world's leading social media research and combines this focus with its established traditions in critical and global media/communication studies. The MA in Social Media, Culture & Society has a focus on the study of social media's political, economic and cultural dimensions that are addressed with qualitative and theoretical research in combination with practice-based and creative approaches that use digital and social media for studying these media's implications for culture and society. More information: Full time: http://www.westminster.ac.uk/courses/subjects/journalism-and-mass-communica… Part time: http://www.westminster.ac.uk/courses/subjects/journalism-and-mass-communica… Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/MASocialMedia

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Fwd: [NetworkedLabour] ALEXANDER BOGDANOV LIBRARY (HISTORICAL MATERIALISM SERIES)
by P2P Foundation mailing list 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

I am very motivated to start reading Bogdanov ... his critique of the Leninist regime as reproducing the power disparity between the organizers and organized, was very spot on and very p2p we could say with hindsight, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Örsan Şenalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:57 PM Subject: [NetworkedLabour] ALEXANDER BOGDANOV LIBRARY (HISTORICAL MATERIALISM SERIES) To: "networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org" <networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org > ALEXANDER BOGDANOV LIBRARY (HISTORICAL MATERIALISM SERIES) http://bogdanovlibrary.org/2013/04/01/alexander-bogdanov-library-historical… The Historical Materialism Book Series at Brill has initiated a project to publish ten volumes of English translations of the major theoretical and polemical works of the Russian Social-Democrat, Alexander Bogdanov (Alexander A. Malinovsky, 1873-1928). Alexander Bogdanov was a co-founder, with Lenin of the Bolshevik fraction of the Russian Social-Democratic Labour Party, and he played a leadership role in the RSDLP during the Revolution of 1905. After the revolution, he split with Lenin over both theoretical and practical issues, and his polemics with Lenin provide a fascinating glimpse into Russian Social Democracy between the Revolutions of 1905 and 1917. Bogdanov played no political role in the October Revolution, but afterwards he was an influential figure in Soviet culture. He founded and led the “Proletarian Culture” movement from 1918-20; he helped found and was a member of the Socialist (later Communist) Academy; he was a faculty member in Moscow State University’s Institute of Scientific Philosophy; and he was the director of Russia’s first institute for blood transfusion in the last two years of his life. Bogdanov was first and foremost a historical materialist. His life project was to express the fundamental principles of historical materialism in what he felt was the most up-to-date scientific terms. He believed that the task of philosophy was not to contemplate the world, but to change it. *He believed that the motive force of historical evolution originated in labour. He looked forward to a collectivist society and a culture created by the working class. Early in his writing career, he believed that the empiricist philosophy of Ernst Mach and Richard Avenarius—reinterpreted from the standpoint of labour collectivism—best served as the foundation of a materialist view of the world. Later, as his political activity subsided, he attempted to develop a scientific approach toward understanding the nature of future collectivist society and the necessary cultural, social, economic and political changes involved in any attempt to bring about such a society. His contribution to the analysis of culture, long before ‘cultural studies’ came into existence, was enormous and his influence in articulating the new approach of ‘ideological science’ was significant. Finally, Bogdanov’s idea of tektology, later discovered in the theory of systems, was a bold attempt to theorize organizational structures as such, ultimately resulting in the theorization of socialism as the ultimate goal of human collective existence.* The General Editors of the Bogdanov Library are Evgeni V. Pavlov and David G. Rowley, and the Advisory Board includes Craig Brandist, Georgi Gloveli, Maja Soboleva, Daniela Steila, McKenzie Wark, and James White. _______________________________________________ NetworkedLabour mailing list NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] [Commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament
by Michel Bauwens 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

full agree that greece needs support, but I would also ask the people there on the ground what kind of support they would like to see, saw from orsan that 12,000 turkish people are mobilizing to go rebuild Kobane, is that correct Orsan ? Michel On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:11 AM, George Pór <george.por(a)gmail.com> wrote: > How about international commoner brigades > to support whatever is needed > for the peer-to-peer renewal of the Greek economy and society? > > That could be our response to the attempt of the international capital to > squeeze the life out from an alternative to its reign... > > george > > George Pór > Fellow, Future Considerations > Founder of CommunityIntelligence Ltd. > Visiting Professor, Management Center Innsbruck > > researcher in collective intelligence and wisdom > evolutionary thinker, social architect, and integral mentor > <http://community-intelligence.com/integral-mentoring/> > to leaders and changemakers in business, government, and civil society > > Skype: georgepor > LinkedIn: uk.linkedin.com/in/georgepor > Twitter: @Technoshaman > Web: http://futureconsiderations.com/who/team/core/george/ > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Mark Jagdev <markjagdev(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think many would back a campaign to make this happen. I would donate >> and we all know others that would also. >> Mark >> ------------------------------ >> From: Örsan Şenalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: ‎12/‎02/‎2015 16:54 >> To: Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>; Roberto Verzola >> <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> >> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>; >> tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net; p2p-foundation >> <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org>; Commoning >> <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>; Eleftherios Kosmas >> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com>; George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com>; Commoning >> List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >> Subject: Re: [commoning] [Commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President >> explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament >> >> This is the high time for forming the rapid deployment force. Can't we >> call all pool rapid funds, coop-funding, crowdfunding, self-funding... >> so on to make this happen. If not now, when? >> >> Orsan >> >> Michel Bauwens schreef op 12-2-2015 om 17:45: >> > there are no plans nor funding for a new big commons conference ... >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in >> >> Greece... >> >> >> >> Roberto Verzola >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:52:05 -0700 >> >> "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Dear Friends, >> >>> >> >>> Very interesting discussion! >> >>> >> >>> I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p >> >>> concepts directly with the Greek government? How much are they in >> >>> touch with these movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be >> >>> useful to them if networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) >> >>> there are proponents of a new approach around Europe and elsewhere >> >>> (i.e., Syriza is not alone in searching for new alternatives that >> >>> break the "grow like mad or die" alternative?), and 2) there are >> >>> actual models that can be implemented and there are people both >> >>> inside and outside Greece who can help make it possible? >> >>> >> >>> It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek >> >>> negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new >> >>> approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a >> >>> resumption of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results >> >>> for Greek politics, because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would >> >>> then turn). So, if we can do something internationally to help in >> >>> this process, it might be very important to do so now. Since there >> >>> are Greek participants in this list, I would very much like to hear >> >>> from you what you think about this. >> >>> >> >>> By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, >> >>> when my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is >> >>> that personal connection! >> >>> >> >>> Best wishes, >> >>> Wolfgang >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >> >>> Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely >> >>> endorses commons strategy before parliament >> >>> From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm >> >>> To: Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, >> >>> p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, Commoning >> >>> <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, >> >>> "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, >> >>> Commoning List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >> >>> >> >>> Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >> >>> Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 >> >>> (not to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an >> >>> important statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to >> >>> the commons ideas. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards >> >>> George >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sorry for my previous half finished >> >>> message. >> >>> >> >>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to >> >>> translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and >> >>> linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not >> >>> be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons personally and in public is the following. >> >>> >> >>> I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with >> >>> a general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events >> >>> happening that only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and >> >>> now a historic era, characterized not only by the crisis and the >> >>> collapse of obsolete models, but we live a crisis that eventually >> >>> spawned new models and new social organization models, as was done in >> >>> the past. In this sense, then, this is an opportunity to take up the >> >>> deficits of the past, to close this modernization deficit, but by >> >>> addressing the contemporary social problem of unemployment, social >> >>> security and social exclusion. This could establish a new paradigm in >> >>> Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining advanced >> >>> forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >> >>> strong foundation of common goods, a society-centric model, which >> >>> would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, >> >>> optimism in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the >> >>> Guenna-pig of austerity and destruction could be the a ground of >> >>> pioneering ideas and policies, and the benefit would not be just for >> >>> us. The world would become a security goal in a region of insecurity >> >>> and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the symbiosis of >> >>> different development models inside. Let's not rush some say that >> >>> these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are >> >>> those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >> >>> the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in >> >>> Greece and worldwide. Thank you. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Greek speakers could find the original here. >> >>> >> >>> http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >> >>> >> >>> I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr >> >>> Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind >> >>> that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek >> >>> language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am >> >>> not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list >> >>> <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: understood Vasilis, >> >>> >> >>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >> >>> and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when >> >>> conditions are right .. >> >>> >> >>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >> >>> the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer >> >>> term change, >> >>> >> >>> Michel >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: Michel, >> >>> >> >>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >> >>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >> >>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was >> >>> what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George >> >>> Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he >> >>> highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south >> >>> can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, >> >>> George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the >> >>> situation and give us time for experimentation". >> >>> >> >>> Let's see... >> >>> >> >>> v. >> >>> >> >>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens >> >>> <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: This is very important news: >> >>> >> >>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >> >>> especially in english ? >> >>> >> >>> see: >> >>> >> >>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >> >>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new >> >>> bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global >> >>> orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable >> >>> development." >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> >> >>> Senior Research Fellow >> >>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >> >>> >> >>> Research Director >> >>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >> >>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Commoning mailing list >> >>> Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> >>> Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> >>> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Commoning mailing list >> >> Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> >> Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> >> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Commoning mailing list >> > Commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de >> > http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Commoning mailing list >> Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Commoning mailing list >> Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning >> >> > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] [Commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament
by Michel Bauwens 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

i'm not aware of movements, but these are interesting initiatives, http://p2pfoundation.net/Proof_Of_Concept_21 http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Circular_Economy On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Ellen Friedman <ellen(a)ellenfriedman.com> wrote: > The movement of movements clearly is beginning to coalesce. In the US, > widespread networks in the climate movement are beginning to organize > together and are connecting with other movements like #BlackLivesMatter. It > looks like we’ll use cop15 Paris as a target date for a climax to a cascade > of actions. Another prime opportunity this year for the commons movement is > to connect with the climate movement. Is anyone organizing to treat climate > change as a commons problem? I heard about the Sky Trust idea years ago, > but I’m not aware of any current efforts to connect climate justice with > the commons. > > Ellen > > > On Feb 12, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Orsan <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > this sounds very good and what is needed indeed. In case there is a call > from Greek commoners, May would become a spring for the commons in Greece > and beyond! Just replied to Vasilis and Michel saying that ECB action in > March, and WSF in Tunis will be key spaces to converge further, as wide > forces as possible, to give full support to Greece, and Kobane, then will > Spain join in, with Podemos it seems, g20 istanbul and cop15 Paris would be > movement spaces to converge further. > > This seems like a once in a life time moment to build the fellowship of > the commons and turn the tide, towards 2016 and 2017! > > Orsan > > On 12 feb. 2015, at 20:11, George Pór <george.por(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > How about international commoner brigades > to support whatever is needed > for the peer-to-peer renewal of the Greek economy and society? > > That could be our response to the attempt of the international capital to > squeeze the life out from an alternative to its reign... > > george > > George Pór > Fellow, Future Considerations > Founder of CommunityIntelligence Ltd. > Visiting Professor, Management Center Innsbruck > > researcher in collective intelligence and wisdom > evolutionary thinker, social architect, and integral mentor > <http://community-intelligence.com/integral-mentoring/> > to leaders and changemakers in business, government, and civil society > > Skype: georgepor > LinkedIn: uk.linkedin.com/in/georgepor > Twitter: @Technoshaman > Web: http://futureconsiderations.com/who/team/core/george/ > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Mark Jagdev <markjagdev(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think many would back a campaign to make this happen. I would donate >> and we all know others that would also. >> Mark >> ------------------------------ >> From: Örsan Şenalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: ‎12/‎02/‎2015 16:54 >> To: Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>; Roberto Verzola >> <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> >> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>; >> tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net; p2p-foundation >> <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org>; Commoning >> <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>; Eleftherios Kosmas >> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com>; George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com>; Commoning >> List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >> Subject: Re: [commoning] [Commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President >> explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament >> >> This is the high time for forming the rapid deployment force. Can't we >> call all pool rapid funds, coop-funding, crowdfunding, self-funding... >> so on to make this happen. If not now, when? >> >> Orsan >> >> Michel Bauwens schreef op 12-2-2015 om 17:45: >> > there are no plans nor funding for a new big commons conference ... >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in >> >> Greece... >> >> >> >> Roberto Verzola >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:52:05 -0700 >> >> "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Dear Friends, >> >>> >> >>> Very interesting discussion! >> >>> >> >>> I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p >> >>> concepts directly with the Greek government? How much are they in >> >>> touch with these movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be >> >>> useful to them if networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) >> >>> there are proponents of a new approach around Europe and elsewhere >> >>> (i.e., Syriza is not alone in searching for new alternatives that >> >>> break the "grow like mad or die" alternative?), and 2) there are >> >>> actual models that can be implemented and there are people both >> >>> inside and outside Greece who can help make it possible? >> >>> >> >>> It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek >> >>> negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new >> >>> approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a >> >>> resumption of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results >> >>> for Greek politics, because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would >> >>> then turn). So, if we can do something internationally to help in >> >>> this process, it might be very important to do so now. Since there >> >>> are Greek participants in this list, I would very much like to hear >> >>> from you what you think about this. >> >>> >> >>> By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, >> >>> when my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is >> >>> that personal connection! >> >>> >> >>> Best wishes, >> >>> Wolfgang >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >> >>> Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely >> >>> endorses commons strategy before parliament >> >>> From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm >> >>> To: Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, >> >>> p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, Commoning >> >>> <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, >> >>> "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, >> >>> Commoning List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >> >>> >> >>> Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >> >>> Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 >> >>> (not to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an >> >>> important statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to >> >>> the commons ideas. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards >> >>> George >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sorry for my previous half finished >> >>> message. >> >>> >> >>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to >> >>> translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and >> >>> linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not >> >>> be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons personally and in public is the following. >> >>> >> >>> I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with >> >>> a general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events >> >>> happening that only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and >> >>> now a historic era, characterized not only by the crisis and the >> >>> collapse of obsolete models, but we live a crisis that eventually >> >>> spawned new models and new social organization models, as was done in >> >>> the past. In this sense, then, this is an opportunity to take up the >> >>> deficits of the past, to close this modernization deficit, but by >> >>> addressing the contemporary social problem of unemployment, social >> >>> security and social exclusion. This could establish a new paradigm in >> >>> Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining advanced >> >>> forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >> >>> strong foundation of common goods, a society-centric model, which >> >>> would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, >> >>> optimism in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the >> >>> Guenna-pig of austerity and destruction could be the a ground of >> >>> pioneering ideas and policies, and the benefit would not be just for >> >>> us. The world would become a security goal in a region of insecurity >> >>> and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the symbiosis of >> >>> different development models inside. Let's not rush some say that >> >>> these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are >> >>> those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >> >>> the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in >> >>> Greece and worldwide. Thank you. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Greek speakers could find the original here. >> >>> >> >>> http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >> >>> >> >>> I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr >> >>> Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind >> >>> that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek >> >>> language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am >> >>> not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list >> >>> <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: understood Vasilis, >> >>> >> >>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >> >>> and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when >> >>> conditions are right .. >> >>> >> >>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >> >>> the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer >> >>> term change, >> >>> >> >>> Michel >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: Michel, >> >>> >> >>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >> >>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >> >>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was >> >>> what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George >> >>> Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he >> >>> highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south >> >>> can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, >> >>> George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the >> >>> situation and give us time for experimentation". >> >>> >> >>> Let's see... >> >>> >> >>> v. >> >>> >> >>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens >> >>> <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: This is very important news: >> >>> >> >>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >> >>> especially in english ? >> >>> >> >>> see: >> >>> >> >>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >> >>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new >> >>> bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global >> >>> orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable >> >>> development." >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> >> >>> Senior Research Fellow >> >>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >> >>> >> >>> Research Director >> >>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >> >>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Commoning mailing list >> >>> Commons-Institut e.V. 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Germany >> Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Commoning mailing list > Commons-Institut e.V. Germany > Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org > https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning > > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] [Commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament
by Orsan 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

There is a global event, however starting in 3 hours :) http://gofossilfree.org ...Dreaming about inviting as many activist and commoners as possible to Occupy Kobane to camp, campaign and help Kobane Solidarity Network and local assembly to rebuild the town as a totally green and ecological 21st century Babylon... Climate there is adequate to work outside from May till October. While building the hope We could from there give a live and strong voice to Paris Cop15! If we could start organizing ourselves, and planning towards ECB and WSF, till May we could have the road map clear! Then from Greece to Kobane, from Kobane to Istanbul and Paris we can have a concrete model to show to the elite.. And a road to walk all together :) Orsan > On 12 feb. 2015, at 21:52, Ellen Friedman <ellen(a)ellenfriedman.com> wrote: > > The movement of movements clearly is beginning to coalesce. In the US, widespread networks in the climate movement are beginning to organize together and are connecting with other movements like #BlackLivesMatter. It looks like we’ll use cop15 Paris as a target date for a climax to a cascade of actions. Another prime opportunity this year for the commons movement is to connect with the climate movement. Is anyone organizing to treat climate change as a commons problem? I heard about the Sky Trust idea years ago, but I’m not aware of any current efforts to connect climate justice with the commons. > > Ellen > >> On Feb 12, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Orsan <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> this sounds very good and what is needed indeed. In case there is a call from Greek commoners, May would become a spring for the commons in Greece and beyond! Just replied to Vasilis and Michel saying that ECB action in March, and WSF in Tunis will be key spaces to converge further, as wide forces as possible, to give full support to Greece, and Kobane, then will Spain join in, with Podemos it seems, g20 istanbul and cop15 Paris would be movement spaces to converge further. >> >> This seems like a once in a life time moment to build the fellowship of the commons and turn the tide, towards 2016 and 2017! >> >> Orsan >> >>> On 12 feb. 2015, at 20:11, George Pór <george.por(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> How about international commoner brigades >>> to support whatever is needed >>> for the peer-to-peer renewal of the Greek economy and society? >>> >>> That could be our response to the attempt of the international capital to squeeze the life out from an alternative to its reign... >>> >>> george >>> >>> George Pór >>> Fellow, Future Considerations >>> Founder of CommunityIntelligence Ltd. >>> Visiting Professor, Management Center Innsbruck >>> >>> researcher in collective intelligence and wisdom >>> evolutionary thinker, social architect, and integral mentor >>> to leaders and changemakers in business, government, and civil society >>> >>> Skype: georgepor >>> LinkedIn: uk.linkedin.com/in/georgepor >>> Twitter: @Technoshaman >>> Web: http://futureconsiderations.com/who/team/core/george/ >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Mark Jagdev <markjagdev(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I think many would back a campaign to make this happen. I would donate and we all know others that would also. >>>> Mark >>>> From: Örsan Şenalp >>>> Sent: ‎12/‎02/‎2015 16:54 >>>> To: Michel Bauwens; Roberto Verzola >>>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis; tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net; p2p-foundation; Commoning; Eleftherios Kosmas; George Papanikolaou; Commoning List >>>> Subject: Re: [commoning] [Commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament >>>> >>>> This is the high time for forming the rapid deployment force. Can't we >>>> call all pool rapid funds, coop-funding, crowdfunding, self-funding... >>>> so on to make this happen. If not now, when? >>>> >>>> Orsan >>>> >>>> Michel Bauwens schreef op 12-2-2015 om 17:45: >>>> > there are no plans nor funding for a new big commons conference ... >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in >>>> >> Greece... >>>> >> >>>> >> Roberto Verzola >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:52:05 -0700 >>>> >> "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Very interesting discussion! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p >>>> >>> concepts directly with the Greek government? How much are they in >>>> >>> touch with these movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be >>>> >>> useful to them if networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) >>>> >>> there are proponents of a new approach around Europe and elsewhere >>>> >>> (i.e., Syriza is not alone in searching for new alternatives that >>>> >>> break the "grow like mad or die" alternative?), and 2) there are >>>> >>> actual models that can be implemented and there are people both >>>> >>> inside and outside Greece who can help make it possible? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek >>>> >>> negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new >>>> >>> approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a >>>> >>> resumption of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results >>>> >>> for Greek politics, because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would >>>> >>> then turn). So, if we can do something internationally to help in >>>> >>> this process, it might be very important to do so now. Since there >>>> >>> are Greek participants in this list, I would very much like to hear >>>> >>> from you what you think about this. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, >>>> >>> when my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is >>>> >>> that personal connection! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Best wishes, >>>> >>> Wolfgang >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely >>>> >>> endorses commons strategy before parliament >>>> >>> From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>> Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm >>>> >>> To: Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, >>>> >>> p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, Commoning >>>> >>> <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, >>>> >>> "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, >>>> >>> Commoning List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >>>> >>> Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 >>>> >>> (not to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an >>>> >>> important statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to >>>> >>> the commons ideas. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Best regards >>>> >>> George >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >>>> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sorry for my previous half finished >>>> >>> message. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to >>>> >>> translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and >>>> >>> linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not >>>> >>> be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >>>> >>> >>>> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >>>> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >>>> >>> of the commons personally and in public is the following. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with >>>> >>> a general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events >>>> >>> happening that only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and >>>> >>> now a historic era, characterized not only by the crisis and the >>>> >>> collapse of obsolete models, but we live a crisis that eventually >>>> >>> spawned new models and new social organization models, as was done in >>>> >>> the past. In this sense, then, this is an opportunity to take up the >>>> >>> deficits of the past, to close this modernization deficit, but by >>>> >>> addressing the contemporary social problem of unemployment, social >>>> >>> security and social exclusion. This could establish a new paradigm in >>>> >>> Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining advanced >>>> >>> forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >>>> >>> strong foundation of common goods, a society-centric model, which >>>> >>> would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, >>>> >>> optimism in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the >>>> >>> Guenna-pig of austerity and destruction could be the a ground of >>>> >>> pioneering ideas and policies, and the benefit would not be just for >>>> >>> us. The world would become a security goal in a region of insecurity >>>> >>> and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the symbiosis of >>>> >>> different development models inside. Let's not rush some say that >>>> >>> these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are >>>> >>> those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >>>> >>> the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in >>>> >>> Greece and worldwide. Thank you. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Greek speakers could find the original here. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >>>> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr >>>> >>> Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind >>>> >>> that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek >>>> >>> language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am >>>> >>> not a trained translator) >>>> >>> >>>> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >>>> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >>>> >>> of the commons. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list >>>> >>> <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: understood Vasilis, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >>>> >>> and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when >>>> >>> conditions are right .. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >>>> >>> the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer >>>> >>> term change, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Michel >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis >>>> >>> <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: Michel, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >>>> >>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >>>> >>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was >>>> >>> what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George >>>> >>> Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he >>>> >>> highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south >>>> >>> can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, >>>> >>> George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the >>>> >>> situation and give us time for experimentation". >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Let's see... >>>> >>> >>>> >>> v. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens >>>> >>> <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: This is very important news: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >>>> >>> especially in english ? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> see: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >>>> >>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new >>>> >>> bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global >>>> >>> orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable >>>> >>> development." >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >>>> >>> >>>> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>> >>>> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Senior Research Fellow >>>> >>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Research Director >>>> >>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >>>> >>> >>>> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>> >>>> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>> >>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Commoning mailing list >>>> >>> Commons-Institut e.V. 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Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] [Commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament
by Orsan 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

this sounds very good and what is needed indeed. In case there is a call from Greek commoners, May would become a spring for the commons in Greece and beyond! Just replied to Vasilis and Michel saying that ECB action in March, and WSF in Tunis will be key spaces to converge further, as wide forces as possible, to give full support to Greece, and Kobane, then will Spain join in, with Podemos it seems, g20 istanbul and cop15 Paris would be movement spaces to converge further. This seems like a once in a life time moment to build the fellowship of the commons and turn the tide, towards 2016 and 2017! Orsan > On 12 feb. 2015, at 20:11, George Pór <george.por(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > How about international commoner brigades > to support whatever is needed > for the peer-to-peer renewal of the Greek economy and society? > > That could be our response to the attempt of the international capital to squeeze the life out from an alternative to its reign... > > george > > George Pór > Fellow, Future Considerations > Founder of CommunityIntelligence Ltd. > Visiting Professor, Management Center Innsbruck > > researcher in collective intelligence and wisdom > evolutionary thinker, social architect, and integral mentor > to leaders and changemakers in business, government, and civil society > > Skype: georgepor > LinkedIn: uk.linkedin.com/in/georgepor > Twitter: @Technoshaman > Web: http://futureconsiderations.com/who/team/core/george/ > >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Mark Jagdev <markjagdev(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I think many would back a campaign to make this happen. I would donate and we all know others that would also. >> Mark >> From: Örsan Şenalp >> Sent: ‎12/‎02/‎2015 16:54 >> To: Michel Bauwens; Roberto Verzola >> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis; tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net; p2p-foundation; Commoning; Eleftherios Kosmas; George Papanikolaou; Commoning List >> Subject: Re: [commoning] [Commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament >> >> This is the high time for forming the rapid deployment force. Can't we >> call all pool rapid funds, coop-funding, crowdfunding, self-funding... >> so on to make this happen. If not now, when? >> >> Orsan >> >> Michel Bauwens schreef op 12-2-2015 om 17:45: >> > there are no plans nor funding for a new big commons conference ... >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in >> >> Greece... >> >> >> >> Roberto Verzola >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:52:05 -0700 >> >> "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Dear Friends, >> >>> >> >>> Very interesting discussion! >> >>> >> >>> I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p >> >>> concepts directly with the Greek government? How much are they in >> >>> touch with these movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be >> >>> useful to them if networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) >> >>> there are proponents of a new approach around Europe and elsewhere >> >>> (i.e., Syriza is not alone in searching for new alternatives that >> >>> break the "grow like mad or die" alternative?), and 2) there are >> >>> actual models that can be implemented and there are people both >> >>> inside and outside Greece who can help make it possible? >> >>> >> >>> It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek >> >>> negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new >> >>> approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a >> >>> resumption of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results >> >>> for Greek politics, because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would >> >>> then turn). So, if we can do something internationally to help in >> >>> this process, it might be very important to do so now. Since there >> >>> are Greek participants in this list, I would very much like to hear >> >>> from you what you think about this. >> >>> >> >>> By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, >> >>> when my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is >> >>> that personal connection! >> >>> >> >>> Best wishes, >> >>> Wolfgang >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >> >>> Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely >> >>> endorses commons strategy before parliament >> >>> From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm >> >>> To: Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, >> >>> p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, Commoning >> >>> <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, >> >>> "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, >> >>> Commoning List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >> >>> >> >>> Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >> >>> Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 >> >>> (not to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an >> >>> important statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to >> >>> the commons ideas. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards >> >>> George >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sorry for my previous half finished >> >>> message. >> >>> >> >>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to >> >>> translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and >> >>> linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not >> >>> be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons personally and in public is the following. >> >>> >> >>> I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with >> >>> a general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events >> >>> happening that only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and >> >>> now a historic era, characterized not only by the crisis and the >> >>> collapse of obsolete models, but we live a crisis that eventually >> >>> spawned new models and new social organization models, as was done in >> >>> the past. In this sense, then, this is an opportunity to take up the >> >>> deficits of the past, to close this modernization deficit, but by >> >>> addressing the contemporary social problem of unemployment, social >> >>> security and social exclusion. This could establish a new paradigm in >> >>> Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining advanced >> >>> forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >> >>> strong foundation of common goods, a society-centric model, which >> >>> would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, >> >>> optimism in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the >> >>> Guenna-pig of austerity and destruction could be the a ground of >> >>> pioneering ideas and policies, and the benefit would not be just for >> >>> us. The world would become a security goal in a region of insecurity >> >>> and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the symbiosis of >> >>> different development models inside. Let's not rush some say that >> >>> these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are >> >>> those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >> >>> the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in >> >>> Greece and worldwide. Thank you. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Greek speakers could find the original here. >> >>> >> >>> http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >> >>> >> >>> I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr >> >>> Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind >> >>> that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek >> >>> language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am >> >>> not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list >> >>> <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: understood Vasilis, >> >>> >> >>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >> >>> and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when >> >>> conditions are right .. >> >>> >> >>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >> >>> the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer >> >>> term change, >> >>> >> >>> Michel >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: Michel, >> >>> >> >>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >> >>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >> >>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was >> >>> what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George >> >>> Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he >> >>> highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south >> >>> can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, >> >>> George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the >> >>> situation and give us time for experimentation". >> >>> >> >>> Let's see... >> >>> >> >>> v. >> >>> >> >>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens >> >>> <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: This is very important news: >> >>> >> >>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >> >>> especially in english ? >> >>> >> >>> see: >> >>> >> >>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >> >>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new >> >>> bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global >> >>> orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable >> >>> development." >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> >> >>> Senior Research Fellow >> >>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >> >>> >> >>> Research Director >> >>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >> >>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Commoning mailing list >> >>> Commons-Institut e.V. 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