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Fwd: Glimmers of hope for a fair shares society
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

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Re: [P2P-F] [tapas] Re: Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

I just asked vasilis, also already spreading the news via fb and twitter, Michel On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:47 PM, jules peck <jules(a)flourishingenterprise.org > wrote: > It would be great if someone close to this were to blog about this so we > can spread the word. > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:09 PM, George Papanikolaou < > georgepapani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >> Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 (not >> to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an important >> statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to the commons >> ideas. >> >> Best regards >> George >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sorry for my previous half finished message. >>> >>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate >>> some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic >>> differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to >>> convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >>> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >>>> >>> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a commons >>> based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter of the >>> commons personally and in public is the following. >>> >>> I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with a >>>> general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events happening that >>>> only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and now a historic era, >>>> characterized not only by the crisis and the collapse of obsolete models, >>>> but we live a crisis that eventually spawned new models and new social >>>> organization models, as was done in the past. In this sense, then, this is >>>> an opportunity to take up the deficits of the past, to close this >>>> modernization deficit, but by addressing the contemporary social problem of >>>> unemployment, social security and social exclusion. This could establish a >>>> new paradigm in Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining >>>> advanced forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >>>> strong foundation of *common goods*, a society-centric model, which >>>> would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, optimism >>>> in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the Guenna-pig of austerity >>>> and destruction could be the a ground of pioneering ideas and policies, and >>>> the benefit would not be just for us. The world would become a security >>>> goal in a region of insecurity and "aged" Europe could re-discover through >>>> the symbiosis of different development models inside. Let's not rush some >>>> say that these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. >>>> Are those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >>>> the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in Greece and >>>> worldwide. Thank you. >>>> >>>> >>> Greek speakers could find the original here. >>> >>> http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >>> >>> I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate >>>> some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic >>>> differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to >>>> convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >>>> >>>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >>>> >>>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >>>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter of >>>> the commons. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list < >>>> p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> understood Vasilis, >>>>> >>>>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >>>>> and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when conditions >>>>> are right .. >>>>> >>>>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >>>>> the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer term >>>>> change, >>>>> >>>>> Michel >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis < >>>>> kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Michel, >>>>>> >>>>>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >>>>>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >>>>>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was what the >>>>>> vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George Papanikolaou's >>>>>> reaction in relation to my message, in which he highlights that >>>>>> Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south can open the way to >>>>>> new productive relations". In addition to this, George emphasizes that "the >>>>>> priority now is to stabilize the situation and give us time for >>>>>> experimentation". >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's see... >>>>>> >>>>>> v. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens < >>>>>> michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is very important news: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >>>>>>> especially in english ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> see: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >>>>>>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new bottom-up, >>>>>>> Commons-based productive models which will have a global orientation and >>>>>>> will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable development." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>>>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>> >>>>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >>>>>> >>>>>> Senior Research Fellow >>>>>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >>>>>> >>>>>> Research Director >>>>>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >>>>> >>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>> >>>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>> >>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://elkosmas.gr >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://elkosmas.gr >>> >> >> > > > -- > All the best > Jules > Convenor, Real Economy Lab > <http://flourishingenterprise.org/real-economy-lab> > > e: jules(a)flourishingenterprise.org > m: 07920844802 > w: www.flourishingenterprise.org and www.julespeck.co.uk > t: @citizenjules > 'Aspire not to have more but to be more' Archbishop Oscar Romero > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

hi Wolfgang, we already have a strong p2p group in Greece; not only have vasilis and george and many others worked intensively on this, but we've done workshops with Syriza officials on commons transition, and the young collaborators who work with the VP have come to work with us in Ecuador; plus our associate John Restakis is there in Athens, working on the social economy with the Ministry of Labor ... Outside of Greece, I would recommend connecting with the commonstransition.org initiative, stacco is in cc, to help cover and connect globally to support the greek process, Michel On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Wolfgang Hoeschele < whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Very interesting discussion! > > I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p concepts > directly with the Greek government? How much are they in touch with these > movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be useful to them if > networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) there are proponents of a > new approach around Europe and elsewhere (i.e., Syriza is not alone in > searching for new alternatives that break the "grow like mad or die" > alternative?), and 2) there are actual models that can be implemented and > there are people both inside and outside Greece who can help make it > possible? > > It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek > negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new > approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a resumption > of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results for Greek politics, > because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would then turn). So, if we can > do something internationally to help in this process, it might be very > important to do so now. Since there are Greek participants in this list, I > would very much like to hear from you what you think about this. > > By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, when > my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is that personal > connection! > > Best wishes, > Wolfgang > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely > endorses commons strategy before parliament > From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> > Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm > To: Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, > p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, Commoning > <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" > <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, Commoning List > <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> > > > Eleftherios thank you for the translation. > Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 (not to > say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an important statement. > It shows profound thinking and his openness to the commons ideas. > > Best regards > George > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Sorry for my previous half finished message. >> >> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate >> some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic >> differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to >> convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >> >> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >>> >> >> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a commons >> based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter of the >> commons personally and in public is the following. >> >> I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with a >>> general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events happening that >>> only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and now a historic era, >>> characterized not only by the crisis and the collapse of obsolete models, >>> but we live a crisis that eventually spawned new models and new social >>> organization models, as was done in the past. In this sense, then, this is >>> an opportunity to take up the deficits of the past, to close this >>> modernization deficit, but by addressing the contemporary social problem of >>> unemployment, social security and social exclusion. This could establish a >>> new paradigm in Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining >>> advanced forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >>> strong foundation of *common goods*, a society-centric model, which >>> would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, optimism >>> in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the Guenna-pig of austerity >>> and destruction could be the a ground of pioneering ideas and policies, and >>> the benefit would not be just for us. The world would become a security >>> goal in a region of insecurity and "aged" Europe could re-discover through >>> the symbiosis of different development models inside. Let's not rush some >>> say that these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. >>> Are those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >>> the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in Greece and >>> worldwide. Thank you. >>> >>> >> Greek speakers could find the original here. >> >> http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >> >> I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate >>> some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic >>> differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to >>> convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >>> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >>> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a commons >>> based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter of the >>> commons. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list < >>> p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: >>> >>>> understood Vasilis, >>>> >>>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >>>> and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when conditions >>>> are right .. >>>> >>>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on the >>>> crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer term >>>> change, >>>> >>>> Michel >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis < >>>> kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Michel, >>>>> >>>>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >>>>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >>>>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was what the >>>>> vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George Papanikolaou's >>>>> reaction in relation to my message, in which he highlights that >>>>> Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south can open the way to >>>>> new productive relations". In addition to this, George emphasizes that "the >>>>> priority now is to stabilize the situation and give us time for >>>>> experimentation". >>>>> >>>>> Let's see... >>>>> >>>>> v. >>>>> >>>>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is very important news: >>>>>> >>>>>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >>>>>> especially in english ? >>>>>> >>>>>> see: >>>>>> >>>>>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >>>>>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new bottom-up, >>>>>> Commons-based productive models which will have a global orientation and >>>>>> will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable development." >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >>>>>> >>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>> >>>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >>>>> >>>>> Senior Research Fellow >>>>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >>>>> >>>>> Research Director >>>>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >>>> >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://elkosmas.gr >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://elkosmas.gr >> > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Commoning mailing list > Commons-Institut e.V. 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Re: [P2P-F] [tapas] Re: Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Theodoros Karyotis <tkaryotis(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is the link for Greek speakers (from m18 on): > http://youtu.be/UcpRQn9bSts?t=18m2s > thanks to both for the print and video links, Vasilis, now that we have this, could you mention this on our blog ? It is an important symbolic breaktrhough that we have to built on, Michel -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons st
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

True. That is a great project. Let's start organizing it at the coming commonsfest in may Alain Le 2015-02-12 à 10:35, Franz Nahrada a écrit : > Great ideas, Roberto and George! I have not been aware of a concrete project towards a followup to the ECC so far .... > > "Transitioning to commons - based society" is indeed a complex question to involve many social actors. > A conference of international format could highlight whats going on in Greece on the progressive side. > It would bring things to a new level of practical orientation. > > A first step and rehearsal ground could be the upcoming CommonsFest in Athens > http://commonsfest.info/en/ > > my2cents - from currently a bit outside developments. > > Franz > > George Pór <george.por(a)gmail.com> schreibt: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> wrote: > > Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in > Greece... > > Maybe with a focus on fighting for and working with a Partner State, in collaboration with our Greek and Spanish commoner friends and commons-supporters in Syriza and Podemos... > > _______________________________________________ > Commoning mailing list > Commons-Institut e.V. Germany > Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org > https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning

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Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

This is very important news: perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? especially in english ? see: " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable development." -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [Commoning] [commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

There are comrades in the EP, like Tommaso Fattori who can make the link best, in my opinon, between the commons and syriza. we could may be ask them? orsan On 12 February 2015 at 09:55, George Pór <george.por(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org> > wrote: >> >> Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in >> Greece... >> > Maybe with a focus on fighting for and working with a Partner State, in > collaboration with our Greek and Spanish commoner friends and > commons-supporters in Syriza and Podemos... > > george >> >> >> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:52:05 -0700 >> "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> wrote: >> >> > Dear Friends, >> > >> > Very interesting discussion! >> > >> > I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p >> > concepts directly with the Greek government? How much are they in >> > touch with these movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be >> > useful to them if networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) >> > there are proponents of a new approach around Europe and elsewhere >> > (i.e., Syriza is not alone in searching for new alternatives that >> > break the "grow like mad or die" alternative?), and 2) there are >> > actual models that can be implemented and there are people both >> > inside and outside Greece who can help make it possible? >> > >> > It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek >> > negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new >> > approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a >> > resumption of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results >> > for Greek politics, because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would >> > then turn). So, if we can do something internationally to help in >> > this process, it might be very important to do so now. Since there >> > are Greek participants in this list, I would very much like to hear >> > from you what you think about this. >> > >> > By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, >> > when my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is >> > that personal connection! >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Wolfgang >> > >> > >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely >> > endorses commons strategy before parliament >> > From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> >> > Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm >> > To: Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> >> > Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, >> > p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, Commoning >> > <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, >> > "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, >> > Commoning List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> >> > >> > Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >> > Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 >> > (not to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an >> > important statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to >> > the commons ideas. >> > >> > Best regards >> > George >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> > <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sorry for my previous half finished >> > message. >> > >> > Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to >> > translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and >> > linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not >> > be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >> > >> > "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> > >> > The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> > commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> > of the commons personally and in public is the following. >> > >> > I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with >> > a general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events >> > happening that only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and >> > now a historic era, characterized not only by the crisis and the >> > collapse of obsolete models, but we live a crisis that eventually >> > spawned new models and new social organization models, as was done in >> > the past. In this sense, then, this is an opportunity to take up the >> > deficits of the past, to close this modernization deficit, but by >> > addressing the contemporary social problem of unemployment, social >> > security and social exclusion. This could establish a new paradigm in >> > Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining advanced >> > forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >> > strong foundation of common goods, a society-centric model, which >> > would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, >> > optimism in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the >> > Guenna-pig of austerity and destruction could be the a ground of >> > pioneering ideas and policies, and the benefit would not be just for >> > us. The world would become a security goal in a region of insecurity >> > and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the symbiosis of >> > different development models inside. Let's not rush some say that >> > these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are >> > those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >> > the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in >> > Greece and worldwide. Thank you. >> > >> > >> > Greek speakers could find the original here. >> > >> > http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >> > >> > I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> > <elkosmas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr >> > Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind >> > that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek >> > language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am >> > not a trained translator) >> > >> > "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> > >> > The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> > commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> > of the commons. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list >> > <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: understood Vasilis, >> > >> > but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >> > and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when >> > conditions are right .. >> > >> > so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >> > the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer >> > term change, >> > >> > Michel >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis >> > <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com> wrote: Michel, >> > >> > The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >> > anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >> > However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was >> > what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George >> > Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he >> > highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south >> > can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, >> > George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the >> > situation and give us time for experimentation". >> > >> > Let's see... >> > >> > v. >> > >> > On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens >> > <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: This is very important news: >> > >> > perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >> > especially in english ? >> > >> > see: >> > >> > " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >> > speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new >> > bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global >> > orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable >> > development." >> > >> > -- >> > Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> > http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> > >> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> > >> > Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> > >> > #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >> > >> > Senior Research Fellow >> > Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >> > >> > Research Director >> > P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> > http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> > >> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> > >> > Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> > >> > #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > P2P Foundation - Mailing list >> > http://www.p2pfoundation.net >> > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://elkosmas.gr >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://elkosmas.gr >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Commoning mailing list >> > Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> > Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> > https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Commoning mailing list >> Commons-Institut e.V. Germany >> Commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commoning > > > > _______________________________________________ > Commoning mailing list > Commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de > http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning >

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Re: [P2P-F] P2P-Foundation Digest, Vol 50, Issue 33
by P2P Foundation mailing list 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

Then, you'll be glad to hear that the next Festival of the Commons will be held in Athens in May 15-17! http://commonsfest.info/en/ x On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:00 PM, < p2p-foundation-request(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: > Send P2P-Foundation mailing list submissions to > p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > p2p-foundation-request(a)lists.ourproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > p2p-foundation-owner(a)lists.ourproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of P2P-Foundation digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses > commons strategy before parliament (P2P Foundation mailing list) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:41:54 +0800 > From: P2P Foundation mailing list > <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitely > endorses commons strategy before parliament > To: "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <whoeschele(a)commonsabundance.net> > Cc: "tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net" <tapas(a)lists.p2pfoundation.net>, > p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org, George Papanikolaou > <georgepapani(a)gmail.com>, Commoning > <commoning(a)lists.commons-institut.org>, Commoning List > <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> > Message-ID: <20150212164154.21a80308@hotline> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in > Greece... > > Roberto Verzola > >

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Fwd: TOWARD AN OPEN CO-OPERATIVISM in commonstransition.org
by P2P Foundation mailing list 10 Feb '15

10 Feb '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stacco Troncoso <staccotroncoso(a)p2pfoundation.net> Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:09 PM Subject: TOWARD AN OPEN CO-OPERATIVISM in commonstransition.org Hi friends. I’ve formatted and edited “Toward an Open Co-Operativism” for both the Commons Transition Webpage and the wiki. This follows the same formatting convention as the updated Commons Transition plans. All the footnotes have been hyperlinked within the text and the index has been reformatted as a table of contents in the wiki. Here are the links. - On the Commons Transition Website <http://commonstransition.org/toward-an-open-co-operativism/> - Onthe Commons Transition Wiki. <http://wiki.commonstransition.org/wiki/TOWARD_AN_OPEN_CO-OPERATIVISM:_A_New…> I had originally intended to serialise the paper, but I’ve uploaded it as a static page and grouped it with the Transition plans. We can serialise it in the P2P blog, split in 4 parts: 1. Introduction 2. At the Crossroads + Open Cooperativism 3. New synergies 4. Making it Happen + Conclusions Each part can include links to the full versions in commonstransition.org and the CT wiki. We can also serialise it in Commons Transition itself a couple of months from now, to keep it upfront and visible. For now, please forward the links I've provided and share with your networks. Additionally, I will publish the deep dive report in the coming weeks, as its own separate piece. Best, Stacco -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: What does the P2P Foundation do?
by P2P Foundation mailing list 10 Feb '15

10 Feb '15

if you want a copy of our new brochure, please request from kevin(a)p2pfoundation.net Dear Friends, The P2P Foundation is progressing with a number of exciting projects for 2015. As some of you are already aware, we are very happy to announce the launch of Commons Transition. Commons Transition is a database of policy proposals aimed toward achieving a more humane and environmentally grounded mode of societal organization. Basing civil society on the Commons, with Open and Cooperative stewardship of our shared resources will enable a more egalitarian, just, and environmentally stable society. We highly recommend this special introduction written by Michel Bauwens and John Restakis. For more information see http://commonstransition.org These developments would not have been possible without the support of The Charles Léopold Mayer Foundation. (http://www.fph.ch) as well as the Heinrich Boll Foundation. These are ambitious projects, and we continue to seek support for their development. In particular, we are seeking support for CopyFair: The Commons Reciprocity License, as well as for structural developments for the P2P Foundation, which would enable us to update our web sites, to improve the user experience and visual appeal, while working smoothly across all devices (mobile, tablet, desktop). We are currently looking for funding opportunities that meet our organisational goals. As part of this we have created a brochure titled ‘What does the P2P Foundation do?’ which offers our supporters a clear guide to our work by providing an up to date summary of our activities and achievements. We have attached a copy for your convenience but you can also download it from - http://p2pfoundation.net/What_does_the_P2P_Foundation_do%3F . We appreciate any efforts you can make to share this widely. We look forward to your continued support, Best Wishes from all at the P2P Foundation ----------------------------------------------------------- As a close friend and partner of the P2P Foundation we will occasionally send you updates on our projects and developments. We do not send updates like this very often in fact this is a first. However if you do not wish to receive these emails then please let us know and we will take you off our list. -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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