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Fwd: The "Investment" quandary...
by Michel Bauwens 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom Crowl <culturalengineer(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:59 AM Subject: The "Investment" quandary... How Can Adam Smith's Ideas deal with an investment and political climate (along with constituencies dominating both parties) virtually demanding that returns exceed the natural rate of return in a maturing economy? (I believe it can be answered... but it won't be very popular.... especially among those most needed to get it fixed) *From the NY Times, Jan 28, 2014:* *Capitalism vs. Democracy <http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/opinion/capitalism-vs-democracy.html>* "If the rate of return on capital remains permanently above the rate of growth of the economy - this is Piketty's key inequality relationship," Milanovic writes in his review<http://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/52384/1/MPRA_paper_52384.pdf>, it "generates a changing functional distribution of income in favor of capital and, if capital incomes are more concentrated than incomes from labor (a rather uncontroversial fact), personal income distribution will also get more unequal -- which indeed is what we have witnessed in the past 30 years." *This reflects a fundamental problem with the artificial inflation of various investment vehicles... which are NOT matched... or even remotely connected to any real change in overall economic conditions.* *"Trickle Down Economics" supported by money creation directly injected into investment markets to artificially inflate returns ultimately hinders both any potential for real growth... as well as the social contract upon which it ultimately depends.* *Could there be any 'social structure' able to act at least as somewhat of a counter-balance for the drive towards an 'inequality relationship'?* *I've got one worth thinking about.* Regards, *Tom Crowl* http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: [WSF-Discuss] CFP Interface 6(2): Movement internationalism(s)
by Michel Bauwens 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: peter waterman <peterwaterman1936(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:16 PM Subject: Fwd: [WSF-Discuss] CFP Interface 6(2): Movement internationalism(s) To: Debate is a listserve that attempts to promote information and analyses of interest to the independent left in South and Southern Africa < debate-list(a)fahamu.org>, networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org, Green Left Parramatta <glparramatta(a)greenleft.org.au>, CRITICAL-LABOUR-STUDIES(a)jiscmail.ac.uk, Revista Crítica de Ciências Sociais <rccs(a)ces.uc.pt>, WSFDiscuss List < WorldSocialForum-Discuss(a)openspaceforum.net>, Dan Gallin <gli(a)iprolink.ch>, GLI <dave.spooner(a)global-labour.net>, David Featherstone < David.Featherstone(a)glasgow.ac.uk>, Teivo Teivainen < teivo.teivainen(a)helsinki.fi>, Ariel Salleh <arielsalleh7(a)gmail.com>, Stephen Williams <stephen.williams(a)port.ac.uk>, Wendy Harcourt < wendyh(a)sidint.org>, "nirayd(a)blueyonder.co.uk" <nirayd(a)blueyonder.co.uk>, Kim Scipes <kimscipes(a)earthlink.net>, samir-fr <samir.amin(a)wanadoo.fr>, Immanuel Wallerstein <immanuel.wallerstein(a)yale.edu>, Asbjørn Wahl < Asbjorn.Wahl(a)velferdsstaten.no>, Janet Conway <jconway(a)brocku.ca>, Jeff Juris <jeffjuris(a)earthlink.net>, Raphael Hoetmer < Raphael(a)democraciaglobal.org>, Marilyn Daza <Marilyndaza(a)hotmail.com>, Örsan Şenalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com>, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>, "Sonia E. 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Internationalism, originally used to refer to relationships between states, has come in much movement practice to mean relationships of solidarity between people and peoples across or despite national boundaries, inter-state conflicts and economic competition. Social movement internationalisms have had many different flavours: since the late 18th and early 19th centuries we have seen liberal cosmopolitanism, radical-democratic internationalism, internationalisms linking anti-colonial and national liberation struggles, often overlapping. In the later 19th and early 20th century we have seen often more tightly-defined trade union, socialist and anarchist internationalisms; Pan-African and Third-Worldist internationalisms; and some paradoxical right-wing internationalisms. In more recent decades a “new internationalism” often associated with links between movements rather than parties, playing a role in the alterglobalisation movement and the 2003 anti-war movement as well as the latest movement wave. Internationalisms do not always take this formal shape. We are equally interested in the global plebeian networks of the kind discussed by Linebaugh and Rediker in *The Many-Headed Hydra* or come to that contemporary grassroots labour networking; “transnational advocacy networks” campaigning around specific themes; processes of international solidarity, often in support of specific revolutionary movements such as the Zapatistas; and state-sponsored internationalisms such as that of the Venezuelan state’s *Bolivarismo.* For this special themed section of *Interface *6/2 we are interested in articles by researchers and activists, as well as material in other formats such as “action notes” on particular organising methods, activist biographies, book reviews, conversational roundtables, analyses of movement events etc. written in such a way as to be of interest or use to people *outside* the specific internationalism in question – contributing to *Interface’s* goal of “learning from each other’s struggles”. Contributions might address such questions as: - The practical challenges of international social movement organising; - The different political implications of how movements frame international, global, transnational or other ways of organising; - How do relationships of solidarity cope with the often vast differences in resources, power and experience between their participants, including differences between organisations in the North and the South and between NGOs and popular movements? - The relationship between international movement organising and other actors such as the international state order or global capitalism; - The present-day tension between local struggles and their representation in international movement or left circuits; - The role of migrants and minority groups in international organising and its contribution or otherwise to redressing *national* ethnic injustices; - Other questions relevant to the special issue theme. As in every issue, we are also very happy to receive contributions that reflect on other questions for social movement research and practice that fit within the journal’s mission statement ( http://www.interfacejournal.net/who-we-are/mission-statement/) Submissions should contribute to the journal’s mission as a tool to help our movements learn from each other’s struggles, by developing analyses from specific movement processes and experiences that can be translated into a form useful for other movements. In this context, we welcome contributions by movement participants and academics who are developing movement-relevant theory and research. Our goal is to include material that can be used in a range of ways by movements — in terms of its content, its language, its purpose and its form. We thus seek work in a range of different formats, such as conventional (refereed) articles, review essays, facilitated discussions and interviews, action notes, teaching notes, key documents and analysis, book reviews — and beyond. Both activist and academic peers review research contributions, and other material is sympathetically edited by peers. The editorial process generally is geared towards assisting authors to find ways of expressing their understanding, so that we all can be heard across geographical, social and political distances. We can accept material in Afrikaans, Arabic, Catalan, Czech, Danish, English, French, German, Hebrew, Italian, Maltese, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Slovak, Spanish, Swedish and Zulu. Please see our editorial contacts page ( http://www.interfacejournal.net/submissions/editorial-contact/) for details of who to send articles to. *Deadline and contact details* The deadline for initial submissions to this issue, to be published November 1, 2014, is May 1, 2014. For details of how to submit to Interface, please see the “Guidelines for contributors” on our website ( http://www.interfacejournal.net/submissions/guidelines-for-contributors/) All manuscripts, whether on the special theme or other topics, should be sent to the appropriate regional editor, listed on our contacts page. Submission templates are available online via the guidelines page. -- Department of Sociology National University of Ireland Maynooth Co. 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searching this list archives?
by ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

hola o/ how one can search through archives of this list without having copy of them in one's own inbox? i can't use google with: site:lists.ourproject.org inurl:p2p-foundation since archives stay protected suggestions appreciated :) thanks!

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Fwd: Welcome to the Age of Communities
by Michel Bauwens 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

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Community Land Trust lawyer for ecuador
by Michel Bauwens 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

dear all, pursuant to my stated plan in fb to develop a p2p-based community in vilcapamba in cooperation with Norie huddle (and richard wheeler) of the vilcapamba garden of paradise Norie, perhaps you can send a summary of your ideas for the four lots ? I am thinking that the best legal structure, would be a communitly land trust, coupled with a few action coops and linked to a 'infrastructural commons' a la dmytri kleiner we're going to need legal help for his, carolina/josef, do you know anyone in ecuador? vasilis/george, obviously we're thinking of cooperation agreements with the p2p labs in greece, Tib: what is the status of your eco-lab in montreal ? Michel <<dear friends, you will hear more from this ... I am returning from the Garden of Paradise, near Vilcabamba, the valley of long life in Loja province, Ecaudor ... I have seen the future of the physicalisation of the peer foundation, at least one form of it. I met Norie Hurdle and her partner Richard Wheeler. The place is magic and full of potential. So, I have been thinking about the creation of a p2p eco-lab to test open sustainable technologies, to do seminars, retreats, publishing and multimedia activities. It will probably start with me going there for three months in the spring each year. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] towards a p2p eco-lab in vilcapamba, ecuador
by Michel Bauwens 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

interesting On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Josef Davies-Coates <jdaviescoates(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I only really know Rob who started the group. Lovely chap I met at Sieben > Linden Ecovillage in Germany. He lives in Ireland where he is from. I > think he had a bit of inheritance and was thinking about buying land in > Ecuador, not sure of his current plans/ situation. He got suspended from > his Roman Catholic school when he was younger for becoming a 'Guddhisst' - > the idea being that people choice whichever bits of any religion they like > - think is 'good' - and just follow that. Half his class converted, > apparently :P > > > On 5 February 2014 00:30, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: > >> thanks. already discovered it, >> >> who are these people ? just looking for a buck , or cooperators ? >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Josef Davies-Coates < >> jdaviescoates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Just added you to the relevant facebook group Michel :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 February 2014 21:31, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>wrote: >>> >>>> yes, please put them into contact with me!! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Josef Davies-Coates < >>>> jdaviescoates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Saw it on facebook, sounds wonderful :) >>>>> >>>>> Know some people who've been thinking of investing in land in Ecuador, >>>>> so perhaps interests could converge... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 February 2014 14:09, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> a copy of a short notice I sent to the p2p fb group in ecuador: >>>>>> >>>>>> dear friends, you will hear more from this ... I am returning from >>>>>> the Garden of Paradise, near Vilcabamba, the valley of long life in Loja >>>>>> province, Ecaudor ... I have seen the future of the physicalisation of the >>>>>> peer foundation, at least one form of it. I met Norie Hurdle and her >>>>>> partner Richard Wheeler. The place is magic and full of potential. So, I >>>>>> have been thinking about the creation of a p2p eco-lab to test open >>>>>> sustainable technologies, to do seminars, retreats, publishing and >>>>>> multimedia activities. It will probably start with me going there for three >>>>>> months in the spring each year. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>> >>>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Josef Davies-Coates >>>>> 07974 88 88 95 >>>>> http://uniteddiversity.com >>>>> Together We Have Everything >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Josef Davies-Coates >>> 07974 88 88 95 >>> http://uniteddiversity.com >>> Together We Have Everything >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > > > > -- > Josef Davies-Coates > 07974 88 88 95 > http://uniteddiversity.com > Together We Have Everything > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] towards a p2p eco-lab in vilcapamba, ecuador
by Michel Bauwens 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

thanks. already discovered it, who are these people ? just looking for a buck , or cooperators ? On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Josef Davies-Coates <jdaviescoates(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Just added you to the relevant facebook group Michel :) > > > > > On 4 February 2014 21:31, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: > >> yes, please put them into contact with me!! >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Josef Davies-Coates < >> jdaviescoates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Saw it on facebook, sounds wonderful :) >>> >>> Know some people who've been thinking of investing in land in Ecuador, >>> so perhaps interests could converge... >>> >>> >>> On 4 February 2014 14:09, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>wrote: >>> >>>> a copy of a short notice I sent to the p2p fb group in ecuador: >>>> >>>> dear friends, you will hear more from this ... I am returning from the >>>> Garden of Paradise, near Vilcabamba, the valley of long life in Loja >>>> province, Ecaudor ... I have seen the future of the physicalisation of the >>>> peer foundation, at least one form of it. I met Norie Hurdle and her >>>> partner Richard Wheeler. The place is magic and full of potential. So, I >>>> have been thinking about the creation of a p2p eco-lab to test open >>>> sustainable technologies, to do seminars, retreats, publishing and >>>> multimedia activities. It will probably start with me going there for three >>>> months in the spring each year. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Josef Davies-Coates >>> 07974 88 88 95 >>> http://uniteddiversity.com >>> Together We Have Everything >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > > > > -- > Josef Davies-Coates > 07974 88 88 95 > http://uniteddiversity.com > Together We Have Everything > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: Open Food Network News & Melb Showcase 15 Feb!
by Michel Bauwens 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Open Food Network <hello(a)openfoodnetwork.org> Date: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:34 PM Subject: Open Food Network News & Melb Showcase 15 Feb! To: michel(a)p2pfoundation.net Open Food Network news and upcoming events View this email in your browser<http://us3.campaign-archive2.com/?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ffdba16c2&id=3974f42975…> Beyond the Supermarket Open Food Network Showcase event! *Sustainable Living Festival, Melb CBD Sat 15 Feb 3.30pm. Program details here <http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00f…>, register here <http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ff…>. FREE* If you're in Victoria, come along to the *Sustainable Living Festival*<http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ff…>in Melbourne on 15 Feb for this interactive session where Kirsten Larsen and Serenity Hill will demo the Open Food Network. We will also showcase food hubs and farmers from across the State and provide an opportunity to connect with what's happening in your region! With amazing work from Alex Knorr (design) and Rohan Mitchell and Will Marshall (developers), our *rebuild of priority front-end screens* is starting to take shape OFN in the News - Shareable and *L'Atelier* Want to learn more about where OFN has come from and how it links to the bigger picture? Following from our fantastic exposure in Smartplanet<http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00f…>late last year Darren Sharp has written a great piece in Shareable<http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ff…>, an international online magazine about trends in the sharing economy. Also L'Atelier<http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ff…>who track disruptive technology across the world have given us a great little treatment - thanks! *Funding and Partnerships * We are very excited to announce a new partnership with Sustainable Table<http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ff…>and a Private Ancillary Fund who have committed some funding and technology and business strategy advice for OFN development. Special thanks to Hayley Morris for persistence and belief in us! Follow progress with our VicHealth seed project on the VicHealth blog<http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ff…>and also via TACSI.<http://openfoodnetwork.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=cb48e5ef79e01c00ff…> *Help us make it happen*! 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Re: [P2P-F] towards a p2p eco-lab in vilcapamba, ecuador
by Michel Bauwens 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

yes, please put them into contact with me!! On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Josef Davies-Coates < jdaviescoates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Saw it on facebook, sounds wonderful :) > > Know some people who've been thinking of investing in land in Ecuador, so > perhaps interests could converge... > > > On 4 February 2014 14:09, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: > >> a copy of a short notice I sent to the p2p fb group in ecuador: >> >> dear friends, you will hear more from this ... I am returning from the >> Garden of Paradise, near Vilcabamba, the valley of long life in Loja >> province, Ecaudor ... I have seen the future of the physicalisation of the >> peer foundation, at least one form of it. I met Norie Hurdle and her >> partner Richard Wheeler. The place is magic and full of potential. So, I >> have been thinking about the creation of a p2p eco-lab to test open >> sustainable technologies, to do seminars, retreats, publishing and >> multimedia activities. It will probably start with me going there for three >> months in the spring each year. >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > > > > -- > Josef Davies-Coates > 07974 88 88 95 > http://uniteddiversity.com > Together We Have Everything > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] Community Land Trust lawyer for ecuador
by Michel Bauwens 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

thanks Tib On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Tiberius Brastaviceanu < tiberius.brastaviceanu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You have more info about the project here > > http://www.sensorica.co/home/working-space/labonline-network/montreal-labon… > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Tiberius Brastaviceanu < > tiberius.brastaviceanu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Michel, >> >> For the status on the open innovation hub in Montreal I'll paste message >> that I sent to the community involved in building it. >> Also note that this Friday we have a meetup for funding the Open World. >> http://www.meetup.com/SENSORICA-Fridays/events/164177012/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Hello everyone, >> >> First, I would like to thank the groups who submitted the form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1gfxRRIMwo1Mwt_wxcEzucRSzRov09A5W6AMct-gx8d…> for >> project description. Francois and I compiled some of the results here<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArYM2AwylYmVdHZVNjYyMXFjSVd5U2…> >> . >> >> Monday (Jan 03, 2014) morning Francois<http://www.sensorica.co/home/about-us/francois-bergeron> >> , Yasir <http://www.sensorica.co/home/about-us/yasir-siddiqui>, and >> myself <http://www.sensorica.co/home/about-us/tiberius-brastaviceanu> had >> a meeting with Genevieve (business development) and Jean Francois >> (director) from CDEC Rosemont <http://www.cdec-rpp.ca/en/default.aspx> to >> discuss about space and funding. Francois' analysis lead to something near >> 15K sq.feet of space and 1M$ to cover only the equipment and the rent for >> one year for all the groups in the open cluster. >> >> 1M$ may seem a lot, but in fact this is a very conservative and even a >> timid estimate. This similar Australian project<http://catalyst-project.com.au/macquarie-house/> got >> 3M$ to start, which is still a small amount compared to other places like >> Barcelona and Berlin. In fact, every major city in the world either has a >> place like that or badly wants one. >> >> I would like us to understand that what we propose is cutting edge and >> doesn't even exist yet. SENSORICA and its OVN model<http://valuenetwork.referata.com/wiki/Main_Page> is >> already recognized by those who designed and built the fab labs of the >> world as being the next thing. I want Quebec/Montreal to realize that we >> don't need to do catch up. Investing in our project actually means >> maintaining the lead. >> >> During the past few weeks we discussed with different organizations like >> Innovitech, Genome Canada, National Bank, and others, about SENSORICA, the OVN >> model <http://valuenetwork.referata.com/wiki/Main_Page> and our VIE >> project. Open innovation is hot and "open source" is now up in the air in a >> few consortia we interacted with. Platforms for collaboration and >> co-creation are needed. A value accounting system<http://valuenetwork.referata.com/wiki/Value_accounting_system> and >> metrics to evaluate network/business ecosystem performance are the new holy >> grail. In short, our project and especially the open cluster shows a lot of >> potential. This is the reason why we invited everyone this Friday to >> discuss the funding strategy<http://www.meetup.com/SENSORICA-Fridays/events/164177012/>. >> >> >> The CDEC Rosemont allocates almost a full time job to the VIE project. >> They were in charge of negotiations for the building on Park ave.<https://maps.google.ca/?ll=45.526795,-73.610855&spn=0.004953,0.009645&t=m&z…> >> (see pics <https://picasaweb.google.com/113604040352055118647/NewSpace>) >> which turned out to be too expensive. They visited the other location with >> us (see announcement<https://sites.google.com/site/sensoricahome/home/working-space/labonline-ne…>) >> and they continue searching. In parallel to our efforts (the open cluster) >> the CDEC is also organizing a network of small companies that have a >> culture of sharing and collaboration to compose the other side of VIE. But >> the CDEC Rosemont falls short of putting skin in the game. No funding has >> been promised yet, not even a few thousands to rent another room at CTS, >> and they continue to be very elusive when it comes to other sources of >> funding that were mentioned at the beginning of the project. >> >> I see in CDEC Rosemont a great partner. After spending time with >> Genevieve and Jean Francois, I believe that they share the same desire. In >> my opinion, the CDEC Rosemont would love to see the open cluster >> (SENSORICA, other OVNs or open and informal groups) succeed, because this >> would be a great victory for them too. But they perceive the OVN model a >> bit too risky and they still don't know how to deal with it. After their >> problems with the CTS they can't afford VIE to fail and they can't really >> cheer wholeheartedly for the open cluster. >> >> Let's face it, SENSORICA and its OVN model are new, unconventional, very >> poorly understood, not fully tested, with no metrics for evaluation and >> projections, no clear governance yet, a special legal structure... Yes, >> some academics like Mai and Soumaya support us, but that's not enough to >> expect Jean Francois Lalonde to take our cause and run the streets with it. >> The CDEC's reservations are well-understood and well-justified, in my >> opinion. They can't take this risk yet. So how can we help them? >> >> One way to help them is to bring some funding on our own from entities >> like Genome Canada <http://www.genomecanada.ca/en/>, National Bank<http://www.nbc.ca/bnc/cda/index/0,4229,divId-2_langId-1_navCode-1000,00.html>, >> CRIAQ <http://www.criaq.aero/>, MedTech <http://www.medtech.org/>, Loto >> Quebec <http://lotoquebec.com/ingenio/en/home#home>, etc. This would >> give the CDEC someone else to cheer with, because cheering alone is not >> fun. Some crowdfunding would also help, because in this case our project >> would be backed by the population, which is in fact the ultimate vote of >> confidence, because the CDEC's money comes from the same source. >> >> Until we bring a few parties to the CDEC to cheer with the CDEC will >> remain elusive on funding and will stay focused on "plan B", which is to >> boost the other side of VIE, i.e. the rent paying and equipment use paying >> cluster of small companies, which will at least guarantee the rent, will at >> least make the place survive. Moreover, the CDEC will want to control the >> governance of VIE, in case the open cluster doesn't perform economically >> they can squeeze more of these small companies in to pay the bills. Again, >> in my opinion, the CDEC wants the open cluster to succeed, because that >> would be a hell of a good story for them too, but they can't afford VIE to >> close its doors 2 years later because we can't pay the rent. >> >> My position has always been that we should find enough money for at least >> one year of rent for everyone in the open cluster, and for all the >> equipment needed to start. In fact, the use of space and equipment would >> not be free. Those in the open cluster would pay in equity, which means >> that if their projects reach the market they will redirect a % of revenue >> to the infrastructure. This % would be calculated using the value >> accounting system. Classical companies would pay cash for use. >> >> My friends, the ball is still in our court. The hardest thing is to >> find the first buyer. >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>wrote: >> >>> dear all, >>> >>> pursuant to my stated plan in fb to develop a p2p-based community in >>> vilcapamba in cooperation with Norie huddle (and richard wheeler) of the >>> vilcapamba garden of paradise >>> >>> Norie, perhaps you can send a summary of your ideas for the four lots ? >>> >>> I am thinking that the best legal structure, would be a communitly land >>> trust, coupled with a few action coops and linked to a 'infrastructural >>> commons' a la dmytri kleiner >>> >>> we're going to need legal help for his, carolina/josef, do you know >>> anyone in ecuador? >>> >>> vasilis/george, obviously we're thinking of cooperation agreements with >>> the p2p labs in greece, >>> >>> Tib: what is the status of your eco-lab in montreal ? >>> >>> Michel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <<dear friends, you will hear more from this ... I am returning from >>> the Garden of Paradise, near Vilcabamba, the valley of long life in Loja >>> province, Ecaudor ... I have seen the future of the physicalisation of the >>> peer foundation, at least one form of it. I met Norie Hurdle and her >>> partner Richard Wheeler. The place is magic and full of potential. So, I >>> have been thinking about the creation of a p2p eco-lab to test open >>> sustainable technologies, to do seminars, retreats, publishing and >>> multimedia activities. It will probably start with me going there for three >>> months in the spring each year. >>> -- >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> t!b! <http://www.google.com/profiles/tiberius.brastaviceanu> >> co-founder of SENSORICA <http://www.sensorica.co>, >> an open, decentralized and self-organizing >> value network (an open enterprise) >> >> founder of Multitude Project<https://sites.google.com/site/multitude2008/> >> >> Google Profile <https://plus.google.com/117593809719446924575/about> >> Facebook Tiberius Brastaviceanu<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000279944184> >> Twitter @TiberiusB <http://twitter.com/TiberiusB> >> > > > > -- > t!b! <http://www.google.com/profiles/tiberius.brastaviceanu> > co-founder of SENSORICA <http://www.sensorica.co>, > an open, decentralized and self-organizing > value network (an open enterprise) > > founder of Multitude Project<https://sites.google.com/site/multitude2008/> > > Google Profile <https://plus.google.com/117593809719446924575/about> > Facebook Tiberius Brastaviceanu<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000279944184> > Twitter @TiberiusB <http://twitter.com/TiberiusB> > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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