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Fw: Fw: Info
by Natalie Golovin 10 Mar '26

10 Mar '26

Mark: You and your compatriots on P2P view the world from revisionism. Go ahead and keep looking through your microscope-provided by your "teachers." Or take the time and read some very old documented evidence available at a library near you= but you may need to stay there awhile on microfiche. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Janssen Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:39 PM To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fw: Info On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Natalie Golovin <10natalie(a)cox.net> wrote: > The European Tribes treated the Natives no worse than they treated each > other. Whoa. You should really stop talking. You have NO idea what you're talking about. How about forced acculturation, not allowing them to speak their own language (which hold the record of their own history), confined them under threat of violent force into reservations, among other things. But, really, that's probably not even the worst of it -- the worst of it is that for reasons they couldn't ever understand is why you were doing all of these cruel things when they were willing to share it it all with you. Why, when they handed out their hand to be friends, you chopped it off. Remember, they're the ones who gave us Thanksgiving which is still "celebrated" in this nation today. Read the reports made of making first contact with the Native peoples here. You really should read up before propagating the attitudes of conquest. Sorry.... marcos _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation

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Re: [P2P-F] Feral Honey & Bee
by Michel Bauwens 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

thanks Bryan! On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Bryan Hugill <bryan.hugill(a)gmail.com>wrote: > http://feralhoney.com/ > > Bartering honey for whatever they need from people in their area...pretty > neat idea that takes cold hard cash out of the immediate equation and > transforms the exchange into more of a social venture. Sounds like damn fine > honey too, which obviously helps :) > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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addon to p2p and the big picture
by Ingrid Herth 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 02 Dec '13

02 Dec '13

Just noticed the use of this concept : *"Flipped Teaching"* *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_teaching*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_teaching> Turning Education Upside Down http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/turning-education-upside-do… Flipped School http://www.flippedhighschool.com/ /// *Flip teaching* (or flipped classroom) is a form of blended learning<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_learning> in which students learn new content online by watching video lectures, usually at home, and what used to be homework (assigned problems) is now done in class with teacher offering more personalized guidance and interaction with students, instead of lecturing. This is also known as*backwards classroom*, *reverse instruction*, *flipping the classroom* and *reverse teaching*. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Maria. > > I found this 2007 archive, copied below, where Michel shared a list of > references from the wiki, > in reply to a longer thread which I initially titled > > *" No curriculum , No students , No teachers / but Interconnected > Questions , Initiatives , and Peers of all ages CREATING - with access to > Unlimited Knowledge Pools "* > > longer thread reposted here > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/econowmix/qGFtigVrVqA > > > note : R.I.P. Parker Rossman > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michel Bauwens < michelsub2004(a)gmail.com <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com>> > Date: May 7, 2007 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: No curriculum , No students , No teachers / but > Interconnected Questions , Initiatives , and Peers of all ages CREATING - > with access to Unlimited Knowledge Pools > To: Parker Rossman <g.p.ross(a)mchsi.com> > Cc: dante.monson(a)gmail.com, > > Hi Parker, > > > > some links that may be of interest to your investigation, all collated > from our p2p learning pages, see also the inspiring citations at the > bottom: > > > > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources> > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Textbooks > > tags > > http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Education <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Education> > > http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Textbooks > > http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/P2P-Learning > > > misc on free curricula > > http://opencontent.org/blog/ > > http://www.eliteskills.com/free_education/?foo=x > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Free_Curricula_Center > > http://opencontent.org/ocwfinder/ > > > various open concepts as related to education > > > - OER Commons <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/OER_Commons> > - One Laptop per Child<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/One_Laptop_per_Child> > - Online Gradebooks <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Online_Gradebooks> > - Online Learning Communities<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Online_Learning_Communities> > - Open Access <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Access> > - Open Archives <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Archives> > - Open Archives Initiative<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Archives_Initiative> > - Open Biology <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Biology> > - Open Code <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Code> > - Open Content <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Content> > - Open CourseWare Finder<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_CourseWare_Finder> > - Open Courseware Initiative<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Courseware_Initiative> > - Open Curriculum Movement<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Curriculum_Movement> > - Open Data <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Data> > - Open Education <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education> > - Open Education 2006<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education_2006> > - Open Educational Resources<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources> > - Open Learning <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Learning> > - Open Media Registry<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Media_Registry> > - Open Science <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Science> > - Open Source Education Models<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Education_Models> > - Open Source Knowledge Building<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Knowledge_Building> > - Open Source Schools<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Schools> > - Open Source Software Distribution Initiative<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Software_Distribution_Initiative> > - Open Source Virtual Worlds<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Virtual_Worlds> > - Open Textbooks <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Textbooks> > > > > citations > > Citation 1: The Open Education movement is gaining momentum > > "*The field of open education is gaining momentum around the world. > Literally hundreds of open education projects are springing up from Tokyo > to Boston to Paris to Beijing. Over 2000 courses are now available through > OpenCourseWare projects alone. Add to this the growing number of open > access learning object repositories, increases in the number and > quality ofopen source educational software projects, the open education > work agencies like UNESCO and the OECD are doing, and the field is > diversifying as quickly as it is growing.*." ( > http://cosl.usu.edu/conferences/opened2006/ <http://cosl.usu.edu/conferences/opened2006/> > ) > > > > Citation 2: Schools need to open up to peer-based learning models > > "When you look at children's learning outside school, it is driven by what > they are interested in, which is the direct opposite of school-based > learning. For example, inthe United States a group of students were > interested in Manga, the Japanese animated cartoons. In order to get hold > of them before they were due to arrive on themarket, this group got > together, taught themselves Japanese, subtitling and web streaming, because > they were motivated to. > > > What is the relationship with this idea that education is handing down a > general baseof knowledge? I think that is one of the tensions. > > > When you look at learning in the home you see knowledge-building > communities. Children can act as teachers, they are allowed to adopt > different identities and they are not just learners. They have control over > the time of their learning and how long it will take. The school system > needs to know a lot more about what is happening outside school in terms > of children's passions, interests and abilities than it does at themoment. > > > *We need a shift towards an education system that is about listening to > what thelearners are bringing into the school situation, as well as > thinking about an education system that is pushing things out*." ( > http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2006/07/smart_learning_.html <http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2006/07/smart_learning_.html> > ) > > > [ edit<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/More_Citations_about_Peer_to_Peer_Learning?tit…> > ] > Citation 3: the Learning 2.0 approach > > "The traditional approach to e-learning has been to employ the use of a > Virtual Learning Environment (VLE), software that is often cumbersome and > expensive - and which tends to be structured around courses, timetables, > and testing. That is an approach that is too often driven by the needs of > the institution rather than theindividual learner. In contrast, > e-learning 2.0 (as coined by Stephen Downes) takes a 'small pieces, > loosely joined' approach that combines the use of discrete but > complementary tools and web services - such as blogs, wikis, and other > social software - to support the creation of ad-hoc learning > communities." (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/e-learning_20.php <http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/e-learning_20.php> > ) > > > [ edit<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/More_Citations_about_Peer_to_Peer_Learning?tit…> > ] > Citation 4: Education is diverging from schooling > > "Education, the means by which young people learn the skills necessary to > succeed in their place and time, is diverging from schooling. > > Media-literacy-wise, education is happening now after school and on > weekends and when the teacher isn't looking, in the SMS messages, MySpace > pages, blog posts, podcasts, videoblogs that technology-equipped digital > natives exchange among themselves. > > This population is both self-guided and in need of guidance, and although > a willingness to learn new media by point-and-click exploration might come > naturally to today's student cohort, there's nothing innate about knowing > how to apply their skills tothe processes of democracy." ( > http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/11/14/participatory_media_and_the_p…<http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/11/14/participatory_media_and_the_p…> > ) > > > [ edit<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/More_Citations_about_Peer_to_Peer_Learning?tit…> > ] > Citation 5: Theresa Williamson on The power ofpeer teaching > > *"Everybody knows the proverb about how it's better to teach a man to fish > than just to give him a fish, but there's a step beyond that: it's better > that a man's neighbor is the one teaching him to fish, his peer. If some > expert swoops in from afar you miss half the value of the interaction > because of the inequality in that relationship. But if it's his peer > teaching him? Then the man is much more likely to offer something in > return. You are much more likely to create a real sustainable relationship > rather than just a new dependency*." > > Theresa Williamson, Founder, Catalytic Communities ( > http://www.nextbillion.net/node/1723 <http://www.nextbillion.net/node/1723> > ) > > > [ edit<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/More_Citations_about_Peer_to_Peer_Learning?tit…> > ] > Citation 6: John Maloney on the new knowledge leaders > > From http://www.kmcluster.com/ (newsletter, 2004) > > > *"The silent killers of effective knowledge leadership are the pervasive > 20th-century traditions of linear, mechanical and reductionist thinking > paired with their obsolete managerial behaviours of control, dominance > and technocracy.* > > Top knowledge leaders routinely 'suspend their disbelief' to unlearn their > harmful industrial-era habits and models. They learn from the emerging > future through authentic conversation. 21st-century knowledge leaders > actively pursue external interactions and continuously use genuine > action/research networks to their strategic and collaborative advantage." > > > [ edit<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/More_Citations_about_Peer_to_Peer_Learning?tit…> > ] > Citation 7: From learning "just in case" to "learning on demand" > > Paul D. Fernhout: > > "Ultimately, educational technology's greatest value is in supporting > "learning on demand" based on interest or need which is at the opposite > end of the spectrum compared to "learning just in case" based on someone > else's demand. Compulsory schools don't usually traffic in "learning on > demand", for the most part leaving that kind of activity to libraries or > museums or the home or business or the "real world". In order for > compulsory schools to make use of the best of educational technology and > what is has to offer, schools themselves must change." ( > http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTechnologyHasFailedSchools.ht… <http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTechnologyHasFailedSchools.ht…> > ) > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Maria Droujkova <droujkova(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < >> dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> :) >>> >>> Thanks Maria >>> >>> This is a list of spaces , which may correspond to the spirit >>> >>> http://emergentbydesign.com/2012/01/08/93-superhero-schools-collaboratories… >>> >>> As for names for such approaches... >>> >>> Connectivism may be one of such learning approaches ? ( some see it as >>> related to constructivism ? ) >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectivism >>> >>> ... >>> I am very tempted, though this may be more general, >>> to add Buckminster Fuller >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller >>> and Ivan Illich ( " Tools for Conviviality" , ... ) >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich >>> >>> >>> Thank you! These general resources help as well, because people who >> actively follow Buckminster Fuller ideas (for example) tend to form >> flexible learning/working groups more than other demographics. >> >> Very helpful! >> >> >> Cheers, >> Dr. Maria Droujkova >> moebiusnoodles.com >> 919-388-1721 >> =~+~+~= >> >> > >

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Fwd: [Commoning] material from the seminar Infrastructuring the Commons
by Michel Bauwens 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: anNa seravalli <anna.seravalli(a)mah.se> Date: Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 8:24 AM Subject: [Commoning] material from the seminar Infrastructuring the Commons To: commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de For those of you that might be interested, the organizers of the seminar Infrastructuring the Commons (Helsinki, Aalto Media Factory 7.11. 2013) just released the seminar documentation on-line (videos, slides..). The documentation is accessible through links that have been added to the seminar program: http://co-p2p.mlog.taik.fi/seminar-2013/ all the best anNa -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Seravalli PhD Candidate Research Fellow MEDEA Collaborative Media Initiative Malmö University +46 72 744 55 24 medea.mah.se prototypingalternativefutures.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Commoning mailing list Commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: [Networkedlabour] Networking Labour and Social Movements vis-a-vis Client-Server State-Capital Partnerships
by Michel Bauwens 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chapullers OrsanS <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:38 PM Subject: [Networkedlabour] Networking Labour and Social Movements vis-a-vis Client-Server State-Capital Partnerships To: "networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org" <networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org > Dear comrades and friends, Finally, started to reshape the Networked Labour web spaces in a way it could bring people, materials, news, calls, links, tools, blogs, etc. in a more efficient and collaborative ans distributed way. Please check out the changes and give your feedback in any way you find easiest. Below is a quick description of the changes in progress towards opening, liberating and p2p distributing the web spaces: : 1.Home page is now, the hopefully, collective blog http://www.networkedlabour.net/ Anyone who is registered to the site can post to this blog him/herself with their names. Anyone who still didn't register to the site and wish to do so please let me know. In case you would like to give an hand to the development of the site, with posting, editing and modification of blog posts and other entries let me know, so I will register you and/or give you relevant electronic role: 2. Maps and Agendas: a space to build collaborative E.maps and E.agendas of labour struggles, networks, researches, initiatives, new organisational forms, mobilisations,... will be launched in this space very soon.. 3. Under the Hubs and Nodes: there are new categories like, campaign networks, research networks, academic units, labour unions, so on and personal links (under the nodes). all are open lists, not only my close circles and friends as Peter suggested as a joke during Amsterdam event:) but all you could add\ delete\ modify this list 4. Under the 'Social Nerwotk' tag, http://www.networkedlabour.net/social-network/ You will see the list of existing electronic collaborative spaces we have out side, but linked to the website. These are this email list facebook page unionbook work group collaborative pad: twitter account: and scoop.it pages: 5. Under the TechTools: http://www.networkedlabour.net/appstools/ There will be list of Free Libre and Open Source Software Applications that are safe and useful for unionists, labour and social justice activists. This is am open list all of you are 'nv'ted to add, delete, modify things on this list as well... 6. Under the Resources: http://www.networkedlabour.net/resources/ there will be various materials and links to presentations, articles, free e-books, training materials, videos, sounds, podcasts, so on. Same is valid, please add, modify etc. these too. As you see, there is a massive amount of work ahead, around which we need to network our labour, in order to make this free and liberated space. open all individuals, and networks related to labour, to freely find and engage with each other('s work). Therefore I would lıke to encourage all in the list(s), to join in the collaborative side of this work by posting news, calls, other info from yourself, your work, and networks....and to spread this call as wide as possible backwards. In case you like to put your labour yourself, by registering and asking for relevant role on the website please let me know. Otherwise, please indicate your request at the end of your emails which you will post on the e-list, or simply by writing down here on the open pad: http://titanpad.com/networkedlabour in solidarity, Orsan _______________________________________________ NetworkedLabour mailing list NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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FW: Blogpost: Internet Justice: A Meme Whose Time Has Come
by michael gurstein 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Perhaps this may be of interest http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/internet-justice-a-meme-whose-time- has-come/ http://tinyurl.com/lwuyvdk Comments (preferably on the blogsite itself) greatfully welcomed. (I see this as a bit of a living document and it has already been somewhat modified based on feedback I've received. Best, M

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Fwd: Helping others at Thanksgiving
by Michel Bauwens 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

dear david, if you want to spread the word, you could ask Kevin to spread it via the p2p blo, Kevin is in cc, Michel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Braden <d-braden(a)comcast.net> Date: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM Subject: Helping others at Thanksgiving To: Donald Studinski <dstudin(a)yahoo.com>, "Susan H. Bloomquist" < susanbee(a)stitch1.com>, Leo Kacenjar <lkacenja(a)gmail.com>, Joe Kottenstette < jkottenstette(a)usbr.gov>, Rose Ann Bennett <enlightenedfinancials(a)gmail.com>, David Ward <david.e.ward(a)comcast.net>, Linda Nowakowski <lindern(a)gmail.com>, John Powers <incgarden(a)earthlink.net>, Doug Nelson <dougnelson49(a)gmail.com>, Mickki Langston <mickki(a)milehighbiz.org>, Dana Miller < pompomdana(a)comcast.net>, Matthew Burde <matt.burde(a)gmail.com>, Brenda Porter <brendaporter(a)cmc.org>, David Olivero <daveo71(a)yahoo.com>, Margaret Emerson <vortexdesign(a)comcast.net>, Pawel Klewin <pawel.klewin(a)plusnet.pl>, Wael Al Saad <"globalpalestine"@gmail.com>, Nushin Farjadi < nushin777(a)yahoo.com>, Tim Watson <tim(a)tlwarchitect.com>, Forrest Craver < forrestecraver(a)gmail.com>, Elleana Doykos <doykos.chi(a)gmail.com>, Adam Brock <wildgreenyonder(a)gmail.com>, Michael Anderson <mband(a)earthlink.net>, Bradley Jarvis <brad(a)bigpicexplorer.com>, Arthur Brock < artbrock(a)geekgene.com>, Brok McFerron <brok(a)mygrofarm.com>, Larry Victor < larryvictor(a)comcast.net>, Kerry Temple-Wood <tmplwd(a)msn.com>, Marci Heiser < mheiser46(a)yahoo.com>, Mary Armijo <mfchembre(a)comcast.net>, julie mesdag < jwmesdag(a)hotmail.com>, Jenny Lighthart <jenny.lighthart(a)gmail.com>, Janet Kern <jottingsbyjanet(a)hotmail.com>, Fran Rostami <farostami(a)yahoo.com>, Francine Loomiller <floomiller(a)gmail.com>, Jason Brandon < jb80504co(a)gmail.com>, Pam Holbrook <pamyogamassage(a)yahoo.com>, manybunnies(a)gmail.com, David Eggleton <des(a)appliedecologics.com>, Tom Greco <thg(a)mindspring.com>, David de Smit <ddesmit1(a)gmail.com>, Michel Bauwens < michelsub2004(a)gmail.com>, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose(a)gmail.com>, Michael Gutierrez <elmichaelg(a)gmail.com>, Mary Mitchell <goldencalmary(a)comcast.net>, Crystal Niedzwiadek <flutingaround(a)gmail.com>, Terri Wagner < tig_wagner(a)yahoo.com>, Corinne Domahidy <corinnedomahidy(a)gmail.com>, Dave Wann <davewann(a)comcast.net>, OZ <ozzy_osborn43(a)yahoo.com>, Honey Niehaus < hniehaus49(a)gmail.com>, Joe Zemek <jcpzemek(a)gmail.com>, Sidnie O'Connell < sid(a)wespective.com>, Kim Massey <kim5512(a)msn.com>, Ellen LaConte < elaconte(a)gmail.com>, Jessica Saunders <hennabyjes(a)hotmail.com>, David Whitehead <dneckisch(a)aim.com>, Laree Kline <lareekline(a)msn.com>, Carol Kolesnikoff <eatingethically(a)gmail.com>, Gilla Lachnitt <lachnittg(a)gmail.com>, Delicia Beaty <ecology4body(a)gmail.com>, Jason Gerhardt < jasongerhardt(a)gmail.com>, Ruth Rinehart <ruth(a)threetrusts.com>, Jody Norman <jnjody13(a)gmail.com>, Matt Lake <mattl(a)eesilighting.com>, Joan Armon < jarmon(a)regis.edu>, Aleece Raw <aleece(a)practical-innovation.com>, Lucy Brown <lucybrown2010(a)live.com>, MARTIN WALSH <kortewalsh(a)msn.com>, Dan Kunz < dekunz(a)gmail.com>, Denise Conrad <deniseconrad(a)mybluelight.com>, Chowgene Koay <chow(a)communitycultivators.org>, Sarah Spotten <sspotten(a)gmail.com>, Michael Maranda <tropology(a)gmail.com>, Dustin Ceballos < sustainabledustin(a)gmail.com>, Beverly Grant <grantbdee(a)gmail.com>, Drew O'Connor <drew(a)civiccanopy.org>, Lorey Hobbs <loreylee(a)comcast.net>, Eric Runstadler <englewoodurbanfarm(a)gmail.com>, Anthony Prichard < anthony(a)madlabmg.com>, Nancy Griffith <ngrifbeauty11(a)gmail.com>, Ann Hoefler <godslamb00(a)gmail.com>, Barry Lamb <barrylamb219(a)gmail.com>, Carlo DeAngelis <carlovito75(a)gmail.com>, Colorado Cate <colorado.ca(a)gmail.com>, David Hurlbut <david(a)cypressrose.com>, Debby Shapiro <debbyjoy(a)nilenet.com>, Debra Neeley <neeley.deb(a)gmail.com>, Dottie House <dottie.house(a)gmail.com>, Elena Stieve <elenamarie(a)gmail.com>, Eric Smith <eric.n.smith.1(a)gmail.com>, Greg Whitehair <gregory.whitehair(a)comcast.net>, Spike Brown < whereisreality(a)gmail.com>, Leslie Brown <lesliebrown75(a)hotmail.com>, Neil Preister <preineil(a)gmail.com>, Peggy Gates <peggygates(a)live.com>, Robbie Knight <robbie(a)robbieknight.com>, Sheryl Sadler <sherylsadler(a)q.com> I want to let all of you know about a project in the Park Hill neighborhood of Denver that could use some help getting started. Park Hill is in what is known as a "food desert" and this project is designed to make fresh locally grown organic vegetables available to those who otherwise have no access. We will be working with the organizers to develop production capacity and engage the neighbors in that production. If you have much to be thankful for this season I hope you will consider helping. http://neighborhoodcatalyst.org/en/SunshineFoodProject Thanks for your ongoing interest in our work, David Braden -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: November issue of the TIM Review: Living Labs
by Michel Bauwens 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: TIM Review <newsletter(a)timreview.ca> Date: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:51 AM Subject: November issue of the TIM Review: Living Labs To: michelsub2004(a)gmail.com Dear Reader, The November Issue of the Technology Innovation Management Review (TIM Review) has been published: http://timreview.ca/issue/2013/november This month’s theme is Living Labs. Our guest editors, Seppo Leminen and Mika Westerlund, revisit the theme we covered in our popular September 2012 issue on Living Labs. This issue includes the following articles: Coordination and Participation in Living Lab Networks - Seppo Leminen The Habitation Lab: Using a Design Approach to Foster Innovation for Sustainable Living - Paula Femenías, Pernilla Hagbert Actor Roles in an Urban Living Lab: What Can We Learn from Suurpelto, Finland? - Soile Juujärvi, Kaija Pesso Open Innovation Processes in Living Lab Innovation Systems: Insights from the LeYLab - Dimitri Schuurman, Lieven De Marez, Pieter Ballon A Living Lab as a Service: Creating Value for Micro-enterprises through Collaboration and Innovation - Anna Ståhlbröst We invite your comments on the articles in this issue as well as suggestions for future article topics and issue themes. Kind regards, Chris McPhee Editor-in-Chief Technology Innovation Management Review http://timreview.ca Note: The Technology Innovation Management Review (TIM Review) was previously known as the Open Source Business Resource (OSBR). You are receiving this email because you created an account on the TIM Review website or the OSBR website. -- Unsubscribe from this newsletter: http://timreview.ca/newsletter/confirm/remove/b18e33dd02161t6 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: hello friends, article on horizontality
by Chapullers OrsanS 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

New book in French on horizontality, by a Tunisian comrade and friend! they need p2p help for English translation.. solidarity, Orsan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chapullers OrsanS <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> Date: 27 November 2013 14:57 Subject: Re: hello friends, article on horizontality To: Mark Barrett <marknbarrett(a)googlemail.com> Cc: Rami Brahem <rami.brahem(a)gmail.com>, marita <maciacia50(a)hotmail.com> here too, Rami, is it ok to add name or should it stay as anonymous? will try to spread as much as I can, great job! http://snuproject.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/horizontal-hope-looking-for-engl… On 27 November 2013 07:18, Mark Barrett <marknbarrett(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > published at > http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2013/11/horizontal-hope-looking-for-englis… > > > On 9 November 2013 11:14, Rami Brahem <rami.brahem(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, here's an article i wrote in french that is translated to english. >> I thought you'd find an use to it.. It's free to diffuse & may help getting >> translators for the book ? >> >> I'm looking forward for your returns, feel free to diffuse on your lists >> if you think it could be useful. >> See you. >> >> >> "What can we do to change things?" It's hard to avoid this issue when >> considering the sad state of our societies ... >> >> Let us quickly recall some elements in explaining the genealogy of this >> political crisis. >> >> Poverty proceeds from a dialectic that Marx revealed diligently: a >> minority monopolizes wealth at the expense of a majority that nevertheless >> embodies the lifeblood of a society. This majority progressively structured >> by the aggregate of individual interests, becomes powerless before the >> interpenetration of financial monopolies. >> >> And yet if there is a way out of this debacle, it is in our collective >> strength, particularly when arranged in a synergistic manner. >> This is what we think. >> >> Some people think that the spread of their revolution will happen. But >> many have no contact with the reality of a struggle on the ground. They >> speculate and do not experiment. >> How can we hope for a practical solution, if we are not even able to >> organize ourselves us in a small group or in a small organization? How can >> we solve problems on a large scale, when we do not even know how to adjust >> to a smaller scale? >> >> One should also be aware of the difference between the popular support of >> " I encourage you" and the popular mobilization of "I want to be by your >> side ." Popular support is an important factor in the revolutionary forces, >> but it is useless and vain too hope that all will rally to our side. >> It is important to rely primarily on its own strength, be adaptive to the >> environment and be close to the people. These are basic strategic rules have >> been understood by all revolutionaries who have been able to achieve real >> change. >> >> We could explain in a few words the often ignored non-Western origins of >> democracy, and at the same time, show an extraordinary approach to make >> better decisions together. On the other hand, human beings adapt to their >> environment and develop individualism above all because it is based on a >> system of the competition of individuals amongst each other. Given no better >> alternative, the community defers to those who already have the most. >> >> Let us now turn to the heart of the matter: >> >> When Gutenberg invented the printing press the deployment of knowledge >> outside of the clergy and nobility quickly caused problems in the >> institutions of the feudal system; the decline of feudalism significantly >> expanded science and the university, and radically changed the world and its >> operations to lead us to the industrial era. >> >> In general, our communication tools are levers that can radically change >> the way we work, encouraging us to deploy more "collective intelligence”. >> >> Similarly, the internet today has produced a "crisis of conscience" about >> the reality of political decisions and help in the deployment of a new world >> of open - source , collaborative company management, participatory media, >> the 15M movement, Occupy Wall Street, leading to new kinds of revolts as in >> Tunisia and Egypt. >> >> Although the internet is not going to solve all our problems by itself, >> such a tool will necessarily involve a major change in our society. One can >> even argue that it will allow us to establish a way of life more "human" and >> more equitable among all. >> >> Unfortunately, the overall vision of what can make a tool such as the >> internet is often limited to a simple appeal to the "democratic" , where in >> reality it is our democratic vision that will revolutionize the internet. >> For the internet offers us the ability to share real- time information with >> everyone else. Among specialists in collective intelligence, we speak of " >> holopticism." Schematically holopticism is the ability for all members of an >> organization to collect in real-time everything that is going on. This is >> key when you understand how information is vital in order to participate >> equally in a decision. >> >> >> Understanding collective decisions and synergy >> >> Some have claimed that there is a natural selfishness in humankind and a >> need for leaders. Nonetheless, monarchies and republics, even with their >> leaders, have not yet, with few exceptions, avoided crises , revolutions and >> chaos. >> >> >> Paradoxically, the greatest remedy to this selfishness was found in the >> collective decision-making . The idea of popular power is not a Greek >> invention, it is found to the origins of the human species : for example, >> even prehistoric tribes of hunter gatherers followed collective >> decision-making, and did not have a hierarchical structure. >> >> Similarly, in nature, among dolphins , for example, one finds ways of >> living without hierarchy, where leadership changes from one individual to >> another at any time , and where individual freedom is extraordinary despite >> a strong spirit. >> >> In humans, the method of decision-making that seems most prevalent >> historically is not dictatorship, nor a majority vote, nor "anarchy." >> >> This is a decision that involves a form of unanimity in the group, as >> evidenced by the exciting work of our ethnologists. >> >> From "the apparent consensus decision" by Philippe Urfalino . >> >> The Navajo do not have the concept of representative government. They are >> used to deciding any issue in meetings of all concerned ... Traditionally, >> they make a decision after having discussed until consensus is met, or until >> the opposition concedes that it is impractical to continue. >> >> This way of taking collective decisions, described in 1946 by Clyde and >> Dorothea Kluckhon Leughton for Navajo Indians, seems to have been the most >> widespread form of social organization. >> The presence on all continents of this mode of decision-making sometimes >> described as "consensus", sometimes as “unanimous" is evidenced by the work >> of anthropologists and historians. This is the only mode decision found >> among hunter-gatherer societies ( Baechler [1994 ] Silberbauer [1982] ) and >> was also the only legitimate form of collective decision in village >> communities in Kabylia (Mahé [2000] ) and in Black Africa ( Abeles [2003 ] >> Terray [1988] ) and Asia ( Popkin [1979] , Smith [1959] ). >> >> European village communities of the Middle Ages also used deliberative >> assemblies, concluding their decisions without a vote, particularly in >> central and northern Europe: Otto Gierke ( Cited by Dumont [1983], p 99) >> noted the prevalence of unanimity for Germanic Europe. The Assembly of heads >> of clans Iceland, Althing, probably worked the same way (Byock [2001]). >> Consensus still prevailed in the decisions in some Scandinavian villages [as >> recently as thirty or fifty years ago?] (Yngvesson [1978] for Sweden, Barnes >> [1954] for Norway). >> >> When we point out these examples, our interlocutor often stops us >> immediately: "You speak of prehistoric tribes? You mean to say that we >> should engage in direct democracy? These modes of operations also saw tribal >> wars, plus they were in small groups and on a large scale this organization >> is impossible. It is already hard to hear in a small group , and then how to >> decide unanimously on the scale of a country? Anyway, they had the same >> problems as us, etc. " >> >> It is then necessary to establish simple elements: >> - No, we're not talking about direct democracy as commonly understood, but >> a more complex form of organization that includes other ways of deciding >> sets. >> - These are recent discoveries, and few are those who know exactly what >> decision-making process were used to achieve unanimity, let alone their >> exact mechanisms. >> - Similar processes are used today in many commission of experts, assembly >> of eminent persons, or the Italian Constitutional Court , because we >> consider that it is the most effective methods to get the best decision. >> - In addition, we know exactly why these modes of natural organizations >> are not found in large numbers? >> >> Their mechanisms are generally misunderstood. They reside in both the >> means for sharing information in the time allocated to adaptation decisions, >> but also in the differentiation between the general consensus view, and that >> of consent. >> We can represent the difference thus: one is a case of “everyone says >> yes," and the other “no one says no." >> >> Let us dwell for a moment on this important concept. The consensus >> decision involves equality: it is the principle 1 vote = 1 vote. This is the >> method we use today in our Western democracies seeking what is called a >> majority consensus (51% of votes). This is a binary pattern of "for" or >> “against." It is an aggregation of individual preferences, a bit silly >> without allowing for differences in strength of preference or conviction. >> >> Sometimes we have simple preferences, while at other times, we are >> strongly opposed to a proposal as presented, or one of its implications. >> >> >> Consent will generally involve consideration for the requirements to the >> decision: decisions will be made through firm opinion and reasoned >> objections will face priority over simple preferences. In trying to resolve >> these conditions, the final decisions will satisfy a much larger number of >> participants, and will also be better. It is also the only known way to >> successfully achieve unanimity >> >> For example, if we are three friends and we must choose between two >> containers of ice cream, if two of us prefer vanilla but the third is >> allergic, we will choose other so that everyone can eat. The firm argued >> objection will carry more weight than the aggregate preferences. >> Understanding these natural phenomena is now a key to better decide as a >> group. However, they have two main limitations: the need to communicate >> effectively and the time required to make decisions. >> >> Do we know exactly why these modes of organizations that seem so natural >> are not found in large numbers? >> >> With our current democracies, it is assumed that everyone has or can >> participate in decisions as if they were equal to everyone else! >> This is a big mistake. Imagine a chess game where your opponent could see >> the whole board, and on your side, you can see only a part. Even if you have >> an incredible intelligence, and are more talented than him, you will >> definitely lose this game: you cannot effectively analyze the best move to >> play because you do not see all the parts of the board. >> >> The need to have enough useful information related to a decision is the >> first thing that pushed humanity to function in pyramidal structures, i.e , >> with a hierarchy, a leader who decides what is best for us. >> >> With the growth of major cities it became impossible for every member of >> our community to have sufficient knowledge of what was happening. In order >> to make a decision within a large organization, one needs enough general >> information. And the only way to allow someone to have this information is >> through the "centralization of information”: information passes to a >> higher level, and this in turn does the same, until the information arrives >> at the "head" of the organization, which has privileged access . >> >> It's called the panopticon: schematically, if you're at the bottom of a >> mountain, you can see a small shrub near you but not what there is on the >> other side of the mountain. If you are at the top of the mountain, you will >> see the entirety of the mountain, but not the details. >> You know more than the boss about what is happening in your business, but >> you know less than he or she does concerning what happens in other sectors. >> >> Thus, we understand the concept of "information field” is an essential >> element for making good decisions, and that, without any skill. By virtue of >> having more information, you can make a better decision whatever your >> intelligence, your experience or your talent on the subject. >> >> In a small group , we can easily share all relevant information , and thus >> move towards greater equity decision . But in a large organization , it was >> impossible and unimaginable until now. >> >> You will then respond: “Yes, you could still share the information! It was >> enough to re-share the same way in the other direction!" >> >> Again, it's hard to understand a fundamental element: the time factor. >> When deciding something, we still have a limited time to make this decision. >> >> If you are a general and an army is in front of you attacking, you will >> not take the time to share with all members of your army useful information >> and cheerfully discuss what seems wiser. You have a limited time to make the >> decision more just to avoid getting slaughtered. >> >> The time required for the decision depends on the decision to make, and >> when we realize that we have a limited time to make a decision, it also >> includes the ability to share real -time information that will give us >> precious time to arrive at the best decision all together. >> >> These are key elements to understand: >> >> - You cannot make a decision unless you collectively share enough >> information related to the decision. >> - The way you make a decision depends on the time you have to make it. >> >> It is follows that having sufficient information and time are necessary to >> decide effectively. In turn improved decision making begins the instant >> everyone has information. >> >> We often say, "Human beings are selfish and they only think about >> themselves in the end, and that's the problem." >> >> The human being is not an exploitive, selfish monster, as Marx explained >> to us. Although his contribution to the mechanisms of capitalism is more >> precious, even prophetic, his comprehension of human nature is most >> ridiculous and devoid of real analysis of the context that can bring these >> human behaviors. >> >> This is the system that pushes us to be individualistic, and there is >> evidence to certify: >> >> " Anthropologists stress that the practice of what might be called palaver >> is exercised >> in a normative context where political individualism is absent ( Terray [ >> 1987 - >> 89 ] Abeles [2003 ] ) . " >> >> Do you realize the significance of this simple sentence? A context where >> political individualism is absent? But if human beings are fundamentally >> individualistic then how can there be so many societies where political >> individualism does not exist? >> >> But especially the most basic question: in what parameters is political >> individualism absent? >> >> The answer lies in the concept of synergy, we can do more together than >> the sum of what can be done separately. A tribe of hunter-gatherers will be >> able to drive a huge mammoth work together and provide meat in abundance for >> all, where the individual acting alone could never do so. >> >> >> The problem is that we do not understand that if we can act >> synergistically then what we produce together is strictly greater than the >> sum of what can be produced separately, and if we always allocate equitably >> the fruits of this collective work, then self-interest and public interest >> coincide. >> >> In other words, your interest is to help the group or community, because >> the more it will earn, the more you earn in return. This is not true in our >> society today for two reasons: synergy is ignored, and there is an >> inequitable distribution of wealth. If you give to your country, you will >> only make the rich richer and the poor continue to be poor. >> >> >> Mutual support, sharing and love of one’s neighbor are erased when we are >> placed us in an environment where protecting the interests of those we love >> means confronting others. If man is placed in an environment where helping >> others benefits everyone, including his family, then all are much better >> off. >> >> You may say, "But in this case, humanity would have chosen to be less >> effective in establishing the pyramid scheme? It does not make sense!" >> >> Of course, we have continued to evolve. A small group is more effective in >> conducting its affairs horizontally, but this ability is lost in large >> numbers. The synergy of a horizontal system is impossible without >> holopticism. The pyramid scheme makes sense for one simple reason: quantity >> may outweigh quality. >> >> >> When a small group of 50 people working more effectively in a horizontal >> system is faced with an army of 5,000 individuals with a great leader, even >> if the small group deploys more intelligence proportionate to the number of >> individuals, it cannot resist the "strength in numbers". >> >> The pyramid scheme therefore made sense in a world where information could >> not be shared with all instantly. But the question that remains is whether >> this is still the case today. >> >> "But how to create a world where giving to the community will save at >> all?" >> >> The solution to our problem lies in how we make our decisions, in the >> analysis of the decision with the consent of all and of the structure >> [organization?], in the understanding of the concept of information field, >> and the parameters of the synergy. >> >> >> Because in reality all these elements are not or little studied and remain >> completely unknown to the general public. We never tried to understand these >> mechanisms and discoveries are very recent. >> >> In addition, the use of large-scale internet brings the possibility to >> have equal access to relevant information in very large structures is also a >> new element historically. Without this tool, it is impossible to have a fair >> [understanding?] about the possibility of participating in general >> decisions. >> It is these elements that are key to understanding the great challenges of >> the 21st century. >> >> Even when we look to the past, discussions and debate about how we make >> decisions collectively are very numerous, and have led us to other voting >> methods, and exciting proposition that is deliberative democracy, too often >> ignored. >> >> It is natural anyway that we redirect our attention to the traditional >> ways of making decisions on a larger scale, thanks to new technology that >> will bring us something we had lost large numbers: the holopticism. >> >> >> Just because humans love their neighbor and love to be effective. These >> modes can be more effective and are also are used in many large companies >> that tend to reduce levels of the hierarchy, or remove them, as in the >> open-source movement and new forms of rebellion or social movements >> worldwide. The examples are endless. >> >> The structure of these modes of decision making called unanimously palaver >> apparent consensus decision or decision to consent of all, is not really >> understood or applied on a large scale . Specialists discovered just this >> unexplored continent and it remains totally unknown to the general public. >> >> More broadly, these implications are equally ignored. They bring to the >> work of researchers in collective intelligence: living architecture, >> holopticism, gift economy, self-learning ... >> Researchers who themselves have failed to understand the structure of the >> natural decision in a small group: the differences between consensus and >> consent. >> >> >> We have a new ability, another way to decide, with a lot of success than >> those methods used in our political system, but this time spread out in >> businesses, communities, etc. >> >> These functions allow us to adapt, learn from our mistakes, and evolve our >> operations . The rules governing the 15M movement or Occupy in their >> beginnings are different from those that govern today. The very fact of >> having to take into account what is important for each shoot to evolve. >> >> The characteristics of a large-scale system that will seek the consent of >> all will involve other elements that are inter -dependent. Just as we cannot >> decide without the consent of all holopticism, we cannot accept what is >> essential for everyone by refusing to evolve, as it can effectively decide >> the consent of all in a centralized system, etc. >> >> If you must share generally the true solution of a fair system radically >> different from the existing it will mention five characteristics: >> >> >> Research the consent of all: the most common operation in the history of >> mankind which is by far the most effective, and which suppresses political >> individualism. >>  The need to seek maximum holopticism: the total transparency in real >> -time, minimum, information related to decisions that affect you, which >> cannot be ruled out a search with the consent of all, greatly reducing >> corruption and manipulations. >>  An evolving system as we change, the world changes, and that future >> generations do not have to be limited by our vision today . >>  A living architecture that allows everyone to go assist and participate >> in various locations to form multiple experiences, and a natural authority >> to put in place, which varies from one individual to another depending on >> what we are doing . >>  A decentralization required for each master is what concerns having the >> last word which does not look at the others, while the other to decide when >> the decision affects. >> >> Such a system is possible and it would permit us to proceed step by step >> in solving our problems, never stop evolving in itself: a constitution, for >> example, written all together (it is quite possible when we understand the >> mechanisms of these decision-making processes); it will be better, and >> written in a more limited in time! It will be reviewed regularly under >> similar conditions so that the following generations are masters of their >> society, and not governed by the laws that previous generations have seen >> best in conditions so very different. >> >> Concrete action >> >> Most important is that such a system can and should be applied today, >> among ourselves, with our own internal economy, and testing these methods to >> prove their superior efficiency. >> >> We can organize ourselves today by showing the world that the human being >> is not what some would have us believe. >> >> The Occupy movement and the Indignatos strive to rediscover such >> approaches often without realizing it, because it is indeed a natural >> function of people who have now have acquired the power to share real-time >> information on a large scale. >> >> These movements are too centralized and need to share their experiences >> and complete decision making, test methods comparable decision-making very >> large scale to provide more concrete alternatives to the people , and learn >> to accept a new form of leadership while continuing to deny the static >> hierarchy, ie refuse a great leader : we can be in the same group all >> leaders on specific functions, for a specified period. >> >> But they never fail to evolve and they are only just beginning! We naively >> believe that we can have everything overnight, for a mass mobilization, even >> hope in the persistence of individuals who overcome their difficulties by >> relying on their own strength, determination, and lifelong learning. >> >> Then there is the response, "Okay, even if this system is possible and we >> can make better decisions together and have synergy and a better world , >> anyway , we do not have the power to establish it! " >> >> Again, we often think of a miraculous process, everyone should be aware >> and act, or a major campaign of mass communication should change everything >> in itself. And if that does not work it is just that people are too stupid. >> >> This is another big mistake. First, not everyone can be a full-time or >> even part time activist today. Many of us have responsibilities and cannot >> engage in a difficult struggle while providing for their families. The >> degree of conviction varies among people, or they have other priorities. >> >> It is also for these reasons that we must offer concrete alternatives to >> people, respecting those who cannot invest as much as we in this change. >> >> For example, we can create a system within the system, using our own >> money, and if we collectively manage our resources effectively, we will gain >> strength every day, starting to now. As a linux system is more efficient >> than windows system, a horizontal well managed system is more efficient than >> a pyramid scheme in the Internet era. >> >> There are many means to act, working practically, evolving and progressing >> every day. The creation of a small group of trusted colleagues can change >> things enormously, especially by adopting similar horizontal operations that >> allow them to combine very easily and very effectively. >> >> Our role is to learn to work together in all fairness, actually, today. We >> should be closer to the people, with specific objectives and recognizing our >> successes as our failures. >> >> The establishment of a small horizontal movement will connect with others, >> and here tools that are related to networking are very important. We need to >> facilitate links between people who understand this global perspective, and >> allow them to all be in direct contact with each other, while continuing to >> develop our specific projects and assistance. >> >> Many tools exist today: Mumble , PADS, crowd -funding , collaborative >> platforms ... >> >> Wherever you are and whoever you are, a great and important task awaits >> you . We do not ask you simply to "talk around you," there will be no leader >> , we do not draw lots for a great leader either! Together we make the >> decisions that affect us all, and we help each other while allowing complete >> freedom for everyone. >> >> However, starting from scratch to learn these methods is difficult and can >> result in errors: a from a spokesman acquiring too much power to a >> misunderstanding of the difference between equality and equity decision, >> between consensus and consent, between methods that work and those that >> don’t, not to mention making changes based on the parameters of the decision >> to take, etc. >> >> Your mission, should you accept it, is to make contact the self-managed >> groups around you and connect with others. To accept differences and >> understand others. Adopt effective strategies on the ground, enact systemic, >> concrete alternatives : free currencies , food self -sufficiency, a culture >> of commitment, etc. . >> >> We must learn from each other and adopt methods that allow us to grow >> every day. >> >> And we well remember an important element; if we cannot agree amongst >> ourselves in a fair system today, how can we hope to do throughout the >> world? >> >> This system exists. And you can test it today in your own groups and >> especially improve since it is ultimately a proposal that everyone should >> own, and which is scalable. We can all help each other and decide together >> the world in which we live and immediately develop strategies to take back >> what is rightfully ours and become stronger every day until that time. >> >> Horizontalism was born naturally in our society and we have not yet >> precisely defined it. It is time that everyone appropriates and applies this >> model. >> >> If you need any help , contact the mailing list: >> http://lists.occupy.net/lists/subscribe/espoirhorizontal >> >> One french book called “Horizontal hope” exists where you can see detailed >> proposals for comprehensive methods and learn more about these. It seeks >> translators, "Horizontal Hope" available free at: >> http://www.horizontality.org/espoirhorizontal/ >> Rami Brahem > >

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