November 2011 - P2P-Foundation - lists.ourproject.org

n-1.cc instead of ning ?
by mrc 04 Nov '11

04 Nov '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 i mean for obsoleting? the p2pf ning group. other options are kune.ourproject.org diaspora less 'mature' (i guess) and we.riseup.net too private content's accesibility maybe . - --- i know of some of the actual lacks of n-1.cc , but i guess a bit more of the same or new bugging from you could make it change quicker for suiting you enough to start a group there for example. another option is to create a new network under the domain: p2pfoundation.net/work free-projects.net other server won't be a problem, content federation through ostatus and others is somehow achieved but not fully but on doings. with openid it works already. but support is, for now, better at n-1.cc .... - --- it has better technical and social features than ning overall. let's give a try (?) * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOsTpjAAoJEAlfUArKi+EChmoIAJxPuPfoKVjQgG8J+XFBab/9 CpiSh59KiVfRMlS5Agmp88uVi+6tj1sV1Db7x4M8gMpQk/fpfCb0lmXlaCjibRDM cti8MWNdJxUM57qSQm1VH1QDyhb7jbWHS3O75SU7aSbxNT3J714kUMCkPgBlxz7p QkBsU8sMfMR4NW34OPZzRqgp8idVLdI/DYXcmaWxRQUu+UWC9kapHPocEzke1XFj vEMwkmD55TPv7mgiwq9roa85O+zuvIA9pfCXKJLxgpRxFRrfiPwSdhco3u1Xpjjs YXvzT6PIfBOC4vfrMbADs9Llwbo4TBIpMJdN4HsrsvkdGysZCqisZrfn0N+hhYI= =xKwS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fwd: Re: [sw] wikis space
by mrc 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [sw] wikis space Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:18:28 +0100 From: mrc <eskerda(a)hacklaviva.net> Reply-To: eskerda(a)hacklaviva.net To: Sharewiki <sharewiki(a)lists.freeactive.net> http://sharewiki.org/en/Wikis_networking and http://sharewiki.org/Talk:Wikis_networking I haven't started to invite editors personally, which sadly is the 'only' way to make it going further i guess.. Trolling myself: are we wiki writers ok being that far from each other? (i feel the need in me) - --- Please assist (and tell if so) in making this adventure growing, it is a pleasant worthful job * On 10/28/2011 01:15 AM, mrc wrote: > > > http://www.appropedia.org/Talk:Green_Development_Wikis_Search/included#list… > > > > > On 10/25/2011 12:27 AM, robino(a)robokow.net wrote: > >> Sounds great! i suggest to make a simple introduction on a wiki-page > >> and to have the list open for everyone to join. > >> Robin. > >> On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:07:14 +0200, mrc wrote: >> without having researched lots but some, i feel the need of a space, >> aimed at active wiki editors from different wikis where to drop bits >> about the thematic wikis' world, at least the ones we have in the >> sidebar and Category:Other_wikis pages and others we are missing from >> around interestingly related to our contents. > >> sometimes sw looks to me as the place for that, but it's better it not >> to be because could look like 'patronizing' the others. > >> i could feel comfortable with a wikis(a)lists.sharewiki.org admin passw. >> or a @lists.riseup.net ourproject.org or... > _______________________________________________ > Sharewiki mailing list > Sharewiki(a)lists.freeactive.net > http://lists.freeactive.net/listinfo.cgi/sharewiki-freeactive.net > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sharewiki mailing list >> Sharewiki(a)lists.freeactive.net >> http://lists.freeactive.net/listinfo.cgi/sharewiki-freeactive.net > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOsvpLAAoJEAlfUArKi+ECyMkH/3oGdckJOJT6I8C4n5JMBkWZ q7PuyTcgZ5dKojWuCwCve76fnhgKX0yhcGolomBmXiHi3yWz9sZmWIR0NQqAcWbF 2VeJw0sZ033XfF5XYPLbF69iXO4zXWbj/cgKawPOcOElxU3UWmgSiJwIDeusoapP IKYurpcszCa83TglHBxOJAID/BZcTQqpsoAiHZ3JYh3yNTD1loL4iAzwTJsVy0zq B9eI7hlsbxbc60gs/ZIB9UBAaQGUYreThqJmBA1YeO0zkCK48YEyQ6tLyo5cONj6 91OWJyAvFm/QTnoyctz1QQV6bWMZRgkgxjDMSoVZPSfkwTZQgQfsZnkZ71PVk4A= =1MdN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Game - "Evoke" : crash course in changing the world
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

Recently developed Jane McGanigal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_McGonigal>Game ? http://www.urgentevoke.com/ http://www.urgentevoke.com/page/how-to-play http://vimeo.com/9723245 *WHAT IS AN EVOKE?* This is not a simulation. You are about to tackle real problems food security energy water security disaster relief poverty pandemic education human rights Welcome to the Evoke Network. Welcome to your crash course in changing the world.

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Graphic : "Emergent Synthesis" ?
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

graphic from http://www.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp/uedalab/mirai/overview/overview-e.html http://www.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp/uedalab/mirai/overview/overview-e.GIF

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congratulations to oakland here is the NY Times front page
by Gordon Cook 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

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P2P and Utopia (video)
by Vasilis Kostakis 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

fyi: http://vimeo.com/31495896

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Fwd: fyi
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Bollier <david(a)bollier.org> Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:32 PM Subject: Fwd: fyi To: michel(a)p2pfoundation.net The Wall Street Journal OPINION NOVEMBER 2, 2011 Time For a Tax on Speculation Even a small levy could help curb the destructive wheeling and dealing on Wall Street and raise hundreds of billions in revenue. By RALPH NADER As protesters have refused to yield in their "occupations" of public places, they have gained momentum and support throughout the country. Yet for Congress it has been business as usual. Elected representatives there have virtually ignored the outrage expressed by protesters on Wall Street and across the country. But the message will keep coming until Congress finally demonstrates that it is listening. A good start would be a tax on financial speculation. Just two years after the height of the financial crisis, The Wall Street Journal reported that the top 25 firms on Wall Street paid out a total of $135 billion in compensation in 2010, providing an average compensation of $141,000 per employee. Meanwhile, 25 million Americans are unemployed or underemployed. Wages have remained stagnant, and median household income is down 7% from 2000, while the largest corporations and executives have seen record profits and bonuses year after year. The protesters know these economic realities all too well. Not so those in corporate boardrooms and in Congress, who are insulated by the bubbles in which they live. The politicians—Republicans and Democrats alike—who continue to ignore the will of the people may face a rocky campaign season. A recent Reuters/Ipsos poll revealed that 82% of respondents were familiar with the Occupy Wall Street movement and an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll showed that Americans supported the protests by a 2-to-1 ratio (37% for and 18% against). Meanwhile, a Pew Research Center poll in early October found that nearly half of Americans couldn't name even a single Republican presidential candidate. These numbers should be giving corporate plutocrats a scare. The prospect of a financial-speculation sales tax already is worrying them. In late September, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Financial Services Forum and Business Roundtable, organizations that represent the interests of the most powerful corporations and financial-services companies in the world, wrote Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to express their opposition to such a tax. They spoke for the 1% they represent, not the 99% whom Occupy Wall Street aims to elevate and who have to pay a 5%-8% sales tax on the necessities of life. Occupiers throughout the country are pushing elected officials to break the corporate stranglehold on our economy. Both Rep. Peter DeFazio (D., Ore.) and Sen. Tom Harkin (D., Iowa) have proposed legislation in the past that would enact a 0.25% tax on the value of stock, bond and derivatives transactions. But that is far too small. National Nurses United and other progressive groups believe that we would be better served by a rate of 0.5%. This could help curb the wheeling and dealing on Wall Street and raise hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue to help with our country's economic recovery. According to estimates from a 2009 Center for Economic and Policy Research paper, a small tax perhaps ranging from one-half to one-hundredth of a percent, depending upon which financial product is taxed, could reap $350 billion. This tax offers another significant benefit: It has the potential to curb risky speculative trading that contributes little real economic value. The Capital Institute's John Fullerton has stated that a financial speculation tax could have a significant impact on the high-frequency trading and other "quant" trading strategies that now comprise an astonishing 70% of vastly bloated equity-trading volume. Over the past few decades, trading volume has grown exponentially. In 1995 the total shares of stock traded on the Nasdaq and the NYSE, not including derivatives and other options, was 188 billion. By the peak of the financial crisis, in 2008, this annual number had skyrocketed to three trillion. Critics argue that this tax would be borne by ordinary investors, retirement funds or mutual funds. But these arguments fall flat when one considers the enormity of speculative trading that occurs in the stock market. Sen. Harkin, Rep. DeFazio and others in the past few years have proposed protecting ordinary investors from the direct effects of the tax by providing exemptions for mutual funds, retirement funds and for the first $100,000 in trades made annually by an individual. On Nov. 3, the National Nurses United will rally in Washington, D.C., in front of the U.S. Treasury where they will call on Treasury Secretary Geithner and President Obama to listen to the voices of the 99%—instead of the hundreds of millions of dollars the 1% spend every year on lobbyists and campaign contributions—and support a financial speculation tax. This movement has made it clear that they aren't going away quietly and they want their voices heard. Already, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy are pressing for a euro-zone financial transaction tax. The passage of such a tax would be a great start for our representatives in Congress to show that they've heard the message. But those who have not heard it—those at the helm of the Wall Street banks, in the corporate board rooms, and those in Congress who are representing corporate interests instead of those of their constituents—they are right to look at the growing discontent across the country with some unease. Mr. Nader is a consumer advocate and the author of "Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us!" (Seven Stories Press, 2009). -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: P2P / Commons on Wall St, fyi
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

tonight at Lib. Plaza: A 'commons' rather than 'market state' orientation is a very fruitful way to think about solving humanity's problems in a new way. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml(a)communisphere.com> Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:33 PM Subject: Re: Michel Bauwens To: Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> Cc: Jared Krupnick <jared(a)synergisticwebs.com>, anthony(a)occupythenet.com See here - http://www.nycga.net/events/event/michael-bauwens-on-peer-to-peer/ Tom On 11/2/2011 1:19 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote: To succeed in social change, I believe you need 3 things. First, a genuine mass movement, which is what #ows is all about, as the first native movement and great hope of the digital age; second, concrete alternatives that can change our lives and allow us to live our values right now, and this is what commons-based peer production provides, as a new way of producing value, with the P2P Foundation as one of the initiatives to map the thousands of projects being created in this field, in order to achieve mutual alignment and create a growing counter economy that can co-exist and perhaps even supersede the present dysfunctional one; finally, we need to be able to stop bad policies, and propose new ones that allow alternatives to survive and thrive, for which we need true democratic processes. A 'commons' rather than 'market state' orientation is a very fruitful way to think about solving humanity's problems in a new way. Michel Bauwens is founder of the P2P Foundation, a global collaborative researching peer production, and a partner of the Commons Strategies Group, which seeks to seed conversations around the new commons paradigm. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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green monasticism
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

http://integral-options.blogspot.com/2011/11/tedxokanagancollege-ajahn-sona… dear nicolas, this is quite important, can you present this to our blog, nov 7 or after, can you find out more about the meeting as well? -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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oakland occupy
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

http://amormundi.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-oakland-calls-for-general-stri… Dear Chris, can you publish this on Ning? many thanks!! -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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