November 2011 - P2P-Foundation - lists.ourproject.org

Fwd: Tobin Tax - distracting from real reform ?
by Michel Bauwens 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

that the land tax is a good idea, doesn't make the FTT useless ... Michel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:06 PM Subject: Tobin Tax - distracting from real reform ? To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com Robin Hood Tax is another cruel deception, distracting from Real Reform<http://gco2e.blogspot.com/2011/11/robin-hood-tax-is-another-cruel.html> http://gco2e.blogspot.com/2011/11/robin-hood-tax-is-another-cruel.html A Financial Transactions Tax is the exact opposite of a land value tax. Land is precisely localised. Transactions are completely delocalised.Land is a purely real economic factor. Transactions are purely non-real. Local taxes support local services through local government. Global taxes support global services through global government. But what arethese global services and public goods? Maybe global positioning satellites? Atmospheric monitoring? Scanning for asteroids impinging on Earth orbit? Patrick Henningsen is one of the few bloggers who understand, penning these http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HEN20111026… : "In many ways, the Robin Hood Tax is an identical transaction-tax scam to the one proposed by globalists at the 2009 UN COP15 Climate Summit in Copenhagen, where a number of new taxes on financial transactions and new carbon taxes would be put into a giant “slush fund” to be handled by none other than the World Bank." "In reality, a Robin Hood Tax does just the opposite of what its name represents. Rather than stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, it is designed to steal more money through taxation from working people- money which will end up directly in the hands of institutions like the US Federal Reserve and its cartel of Wall Street banks." The finance sector gets its money from land, money and monopoly rents, and by siphoning off savings and investments. Then they play "poker" with it. Collecting the gambling chips to feed them back via economic rents will be * completely* ineffective at best, at least from a systemic level! The Financial Transactions Tax has found wide acceptance, from the European leaders, the Vatican with their call for a world sovereign bank, and mainstream media. This alone should ring alarm bells among reformers. The reason for the support from the ruling elite is that it strengthens their political and economic interests due to its fundamental mis-design. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fw: [New post] How Do You Get An Occupation Event Going?
by Natalie Golovin 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

WordPress.com From: Volatility Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 5:57 AM To: 10natalie(a)cox.net Subject: [New post] How Do You Get An Occupation Event Going? New post on Volatility How Do You Get An Occupation Event Going? by Russ > Wherever you are, of whatever sort? The possibilities vary greatly, from urban to suburban to rural areas; the economic state of the region; the predominant politics and political conflicts; whether there's an immediate proximate struggle which is part of broader structural issues; what forces could possibly be mustered for the action; whether those forces exist ready for action at the moment or if educational and organizational work is needed, and if so, what. Someone I know wants to get an event going here in suburbia, but so far there's been a disappointing response to feelers sent out to e-mail lists, and we're mostly at the stage of casting about for a specific rationale. (Then there'll be the nuts-and-bolts logistics of it, "permits" and such, but first we need to know we wouldn't be "giving a demonstration and nobody came".) There are several specific corporate assaults in this town, like a federally imposed pipeline (taxpayer money, federal thug enforcement including overriding of state law, "private" profiteering). It seems like people are mostly glum about things but not particularly ready to do anything about it. (I personally experience it as a foreign invasion.) There's some other general swinishness going on. Verizon recently informed the town it would no longer pay taxes on its properties because it just dipped below a 50% market share, and some law allegedly exempts it from taxes if it doesn't hold this m ajority share. The law actually means the opposite (though it does sound like a very stupid law to have written in the first place), but this is an example of something we've discussed previously, how corporations are increasingly simply refusing to pay bills and taxes and forcing creditors and governments to sue them. There's also a flap over the municipal water authority, with privatization looming in the background. We know the record is 100% across the board - no matter what the public water utility was like, privatization always brings far more expensive water with worse services. That's what's happened everywhere privatization has won out. So there's a few examples of possible hooks upon which to hang a participation event. There's also the broader question of the future of the town. For the moment it's "legally" safe from further development, but that of course can change. The subdivision onslaught is just about economically spent anyway, but the barbarians of suburbia can still do lots of damage yet, even in a fairly short period of time. If we're going to resist and overcome the vandals, we need a coherent plan of our own for the post-oil agricultural future of the area. Maybe an Occupation event could become a participatory assembly to discuss this future. Well, that's a pretty far-out idea, but it could at least impress upon people the need for such a plan. So far as I know the only plans that exist still assume infinite growth. These are impossible, of course, but can still accomplish great destruction. In the meantime, it sounds like lots of preparatory work needs to be done even before we can get a good turnout for an acute event. People need to be reminded of everything that's happening, and have it all be presented as one big picture, with each specific feature placed in the big context. We also need an ongoing media project to keep people aware of all these things. We already have the building materials for that - websites, cadres, a base to build upon (although even this base seems lethargic at the moment). We just need to put it all together to function the right way, to generate its own energy. So if the issue here is chronic, and people "aren't ready" to come out for an acute Occupy event, that'll have to be changed systematically. Of course, OWS itself seemed to be falling short on its first day, and even I thought it was fizzling out. So if we could get something started, who knows what kind of enthusiasm it might spontaneously call into being? So there I was talking about how to use existing forces to get an Occupy event going. And perhaps for the longer run we could use an Occupy event as a consciousness raiser and recruitment tool for the vaster arc of the general democratic movement. At our farmers' market we have a dedicated space where a non-profit organization can set up a booth and engage in those two activities. So an Occupy event itself could serve the same purpose for any number of food, energy, transportation, health, education, political, and anti-corporate struggles. Just as these proximate struggles can be the rallying point for a broader occupation, so the Occupation can teach and recruit for the struggle. Russ | November 6, 2011 at 9:56 am | Tags: federalism, occupy wall street, verizon | Categories: Corporatism, Food and Farms, Freedom | URL: http://wp.me/ptvwB-wC Comment See all comments Unsubscribe or change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://attempter.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/how-do-you-get-an-occupation-even… Thanks for flying with WordPress.com

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Fw: [endthefed] Goldman vs. Occupy bank -- the full story
by Natalie Golovin 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

From: Aaron Krowne Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:14 AM To: endthefed-list(a)meetup.com Subject: [endthefed] Goldman vs. Occupy bank -- the full story It doesn't get any better for Goldman in this full-length telling... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-02/citigroup-finds-obeying-the-law-is… In 2008, the US Treasury handed Goldman Sachs a check for $10bn from the Troubled Asset Recovery Program (Tarp), the bailout funds given to desperate commercial banks. A few eyebrows were raised: Goldman was not desperate, and it certainly was not a commercial bank. Yet – abracadabra! – Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson transformed investment bank Goldman into a commercial bank overnight. (Paulson's prior post was chairman of Goldman Sachs. Just saying.) But there was a catch: Goldman would have to return a chunk of the public's billions in the form of loans for low-income customers and members of its "community", as required by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. Problem: Goldman has, it seems, no low-income customers, nor a "community". Goldman was directed to find poor people and a community and hand over some cash. -- Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list (endthefed-list(a)meetup.com) This message was sent by Aaron Krowne (akrowne(a)gmail.com) from National Ron Paul End The Fed Meetup Group. To learn more about Aaron Krowne, visit his/her member profile To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 | support(a)meetup.com

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BitCoin Payment using Smartphone QR code - HowTo - Video
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

usage example - 2 min short video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ-pqo0cLcE also see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: S Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:16 AM Subject: Re: building critical network of users : "Meta-Civilization" game To: this could be facilitated by using QR codes on the business cards and website. then when you meet in real life they can either scan a business card or your phone's screen (which is displaying the QR code while logged into the system) to visit your profile and exchange needs/wants or even payment (ex: bitcoins) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ-pqo0cLcE you can imagine this is possible to integrate with the re-designed netention system i sent you a link to try

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Fwd: new bk
by Michel Bauwens 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Louis Bohtlingk <daretocare(a)carefirstworld.com> Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:29 AM Subject: To: hazel.henderson(a)ethicalmarkets.com Cc: pippa(a)pippa-bartolotti.co.uk, rosalindcopisarow(a)yahoo.co.uk, michelsub2004(a)gmail.com, lesliedanziger(a)yahoo.com, jslovink(a)planet2025.net, rosalinda.sanquiche(a)ethicalmarkets.com, steveschueth(a)firstaffirmative.com, steiner_king(a)earthlink.net, suevanee(a)gmail.com, walshmich(a)gmail.com, jhzwerver(a)gmail.com, jonjul(a)clara.co.uk, quentincowen(a)gmail.com, giles.chitty(a)gmail.com ** *Dear old and new friends, *Hope you are in good spirits. I definitely send you best wishes. I am contacting you all about my first book: *Dare to Care - a love based foundation for money and finance* I am so happy about the release of this Book in these turbulent times. I hope it can bring hope and peace towards our financial storms and economic uncertainties. I wrote the book and was supported and inspired by *Hazel Henderson*, who also wrote the Foreword. My friend *Ernie Robson* helped me with the editing and wrote big parts of two chapters. I have had so many people helping me. My publisher is *Cosimo in New York*. Official release date Nov 1st 2011. Today I saw the printed book for the first time. It looks very elegant, light and easy to read. I am very happy *You can order the book now online at Barnes&Noble: * http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dare-to-care-louis-b-htlingk/1106978849?ean… *and Cosimo (Amazon)(here you also read the Cosimo review of the Book) * http://www.cosimobooks.com/b3703_Dare-to-Care-A-LoveBased-Foundation-for-Mo… *on our website www.CareFirstWorld.com <http://www.carefirstworld.com/>, *where you find more info about the Book. I am sending you *two files, which tell you more about the book. (see attached)* Cosimo is a print on demand publisher (no paper waste). *Bookstores will carry the books if they notice that there is a demand and you request them too.* So for example if you want the Boulder Bookstore to carry it, they might decide to do that if more a you place an order through them. Another thing that can help others to find out about the book is *to place a review on *Barnes&Nobles and Amazon (Cosimo said you can place the same review on both) There is something going on with the sales because I saw it advertised on You Tube last night in between best selling books. I am trying to work out how it got there. I also saw this morning that we moved in from sales rank 1.058.234 to 337.240 in one day. I am all new to this stuff. Let the Care First spread!!!!Let's recreate our financial worlds and economies. Much love Louis -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: The End of Democracy/EU is near: Say NO to ACTA
by Michel Bauwens 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Valentin Spirik <valentin.spirik(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:45 PM Subject: The End of Democracy/EU is near: Say NO to ACTA To: valentin.spirik(a)gmail.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: tim tyler - memetics - collective intelligence
by Michel Bauwens 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:06 PM Subject: tim tyler - memetics - collective intelligence To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com This person seems to share some of my ( our ? ) interests : http://on-memetics.blogspot.com/ http://timtyler.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLwj70N5NJY& -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] Funds Pool
by Michel Bauwens 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

thanks Thomas!! On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml(a)communisphere.com>wrote: > FYI > > > > A Site for Data Scientists to Prove Their Skills and Make Money > http://j.mp/vFIWpZ (New York Times) > > "Organizations from airlines to insurance companies to hospitals are > trying to figure out how to corral all their data and turn it into > something useful. Kaggle, a start-up, has figured out a way to > connect these companies with the mathematicians and scientists who > crunch numbers for a living or a hobby. On Thursday, it announced it > had raised $11 million from investors including Khosla Ventures, Index > Ventures and Hal Varian, Google's chief economist. "We're really > making big data into a sport," said Anthony Goldbloom, Kaggle's > founder." > > - - - > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: "we are not against the system, the system is against us"
by Michel Bauwens 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:57 PM Subject: "we are not against the system, the system is against us" To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com *"we are not against the system, the system is against us"* * * http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,769831,00.html *The young protesters' demands are modest. They want more citizen involvement, a reform of voting rights and curbs on the power of banks. One of the protest signs reads: "We are not against the system. The system is against us."* -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: "Disengage with the financial system" ?
by Michel Bauwens 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM Subject: "Disengage with the financial system" ? To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HEN20111026… excerpt : *Real Solution: Disengage with the financial system* It’s an age-old saying, “If you’re not happy, then get out”. OWS protesters should be talking about taking steps to completely *disengage* from the system that enslaves them- this might include removing their hard-earned liquidity from the system by canceling all credit cards, not taking out student loans, or pointless car and electronic loans. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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