-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 i mean for obsoleting? the p2pf ning group. other options are kune.ourproject.org diaspora less 'mature' (i guess) and we.riseup.net too private content's accesibility maybe . - --- i know of some of the actual lacks of n-1.cc , but i guess a bit more of the same or new bugging from you could make it change quicker for suiting you enough to start a group there for example. another option is to create a new network under the domain: p2pfoundation.net/work free-projects.net other server won't be a problem, content federation through ostatus and others is somehow achieved but not fully but on doings. with openid it works already. but support is, for now, better at n-1.cc .... - --- it has better technical and social features than ning overall. let's give a try (?) * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOsTpjAAoJEAlfUArKi+EChmoIAJxPuPfoKVjQgG8J+XFBab/9 CpiSh59KiVfRMlS5Agmp88uVi+6tj1sV1Db7x4M8gMpQk/fpfCb0lmXlaCjibRDM cti8MWNdJxUM57qSQm1VH1QDyhb7jbWHS3O75SU7aSbxNT3J714kUMCkPgBlxz7p QkBsU8sMfMR4NW34OPZzRqgp8idVLdI/DYXcmaWxRQUu+UWC9kapHPocEzke1XFj vEMwkmD55TPv7mgiwq9roa85O+zuvIA9pfCXKJLxgpRxFRrfiPwSdhco3u1Xpjjs YXvzT6PIfBOC4vfrMbADs9Llwbo4TBIpMJdN4HsrsvkdGysZCqisZrfn0N+hhYI= =xKwS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
El 02/11/11 09:41, mrc escribió:
let's give a try (?)
It can be a good option. We would need to integrate it with our wiki. Elgg is really a powerfull tool. I am already experimenting this in other communities. We can start planning this for 2012. Would you like to lead the process? -- Franco Iacomella
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It can be a good option. We would need to integrate it with our wiki.
besides of linking, the openid facility and other stuff i may be missing.. i don't see further compatibilities between elgg and mediawiki.
Elgg is really a powerfull tool. I am already experimenting this in other communities.
and http://bitbucket.org/rhizomatik/lorea_production has many addons for the elgg distro. (is not a fork) see also http://lorea.org
We can start planning this for 2012.
cool, it leaves time for discussing and planning it well. however, for being a bit more concrete: i'd like the time deadline to be for 1-january-2012 than for 1-september-2012.
Would you like to lead the process?
well, i'm a http://n-1.cc enthusiast, i like the p2pf stuff. The basic point to clear would be the used domain, whether to use n-1.cc and create a group there, or; set up another elgg (or elgg lorea?) platform on the p2pf domain, on the free-projects.net, or in the amalurccop.org (see here: https://n-1.cc/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=98864&group_guid=7826 ) or else. so, what kind of free social networking tool does the p2pf wants for now and-or for the future ? . we have time to think about, i just sent you a private message for a private chat. <advertisement> I see the lorea project as a technologies factory (unless for now all of them are made in php) for a more p2p way doings between the people. </advertisement> {careful, mad and undefined mad idea here!} So if i wasn't at any of both as i am, for me look like 2 sections of the same thing both with their posible humanware limitations that could be the biggest conflict to solve if they were to merge. {/mad idea ended} <lorea advertisement> The strategic technic developments are Maintenance(:), data federativeness across diferent sites-databases(being elgg or drupal), server side and user encryption options, content internationalization and geolocating (with OSM) and (my favourite) "Economic" tools like Caori (currenciism backed by distributed trust)(also useful for crowdfunding and other posible usages) and Marketplace(a classifieds style thing with caori, osm, etc integrated). The project has the typical logic of Download, enjoy, and install it in our machines if you need. And it adds the "social": Tell us (the actual networks) about your initiative and propose some kind of data and resources federation. CoDevelopers are also very humble minded in their personal resources needs and we plan to formalize further some kind of communitary, temporary or not, living plan for volunteers who'd like to leave their paid job and come to the real and more productive fun for more with a similar social security. (IMO: This last point is why we don't get further, there are too many hackers hijacked by their job-etc commodities or unsecureness. message: If you want to better help, come near to an elgg API's geek for a week or more for coding further. Don't worry about the money, you shouldn't use that that much and we'll show you how we live it) </lorea advertisement> i don't know if i replied to your question of leadering this development. For me, strickly talking, the one who proposes a better argumented stand in this thread, should take or is taking the lead. but if you are asking me for my availabilty for holding some more admin passwords for this kind of project, yes i guess i can. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOstzpAAoJEAlfUArKi+EC5UYIAMysmInAgDWl/ZIqlaKJ37Tw 0G/kHam/XD5G1WQAZ1V4cYk8SRfmD0SP+0mcMwUfshAjzbGUK/VMBbo2dyxq+JYc Zxbeyre1Hm5ZHqWShXfajvbzM4KSSs3EQqN+NVGuLF39eKF/1SEeBPxQ9iiI78q0 73GrNGdw7KkriJAfAt3KR1R8iFSyClqN/M0B5YuF0dh3+ffkXFuWYPDd0OLbp7BT wuek6SdOwfs1iac6b79aOzMicQP3/OQBwQgc5iQ2kWFhcwHW9ncyOgGHJuhulf+s otNLvC9CrEATKhAEcTMqCcbD4MYjfB2y++Zds8I+3Z4NgOObE0yN184PhloE/eU= =bNNk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
El 03/11/11 15:26, mrc escribió:
besides of linking, the openid facility and other stuff i may be missing.. i don't see further compatibilities between elgg and mediawiki.
There is a nice Mediawiki plugin for elgg that allows to render page contents in elgg and display user's page in dashboard and other stuff.
andhttp://bitbucket.org/rhizomatik/lorea_production has many addons for the elgg distro. (is not a fork)
see alsohttp://lorea.org
Yeap, I am already using some of its addons in a elgg 1.8 implementation.
We can start planning this for 2012. cool, it leaves time for discussing and planning it well.
however, for being a bit more concrete: i'd like the time deadline to be for 1-january-2012 than for 1-september-2012.
I think this need more discussion and hands to reach a stage where we can define a deadline. I think is 2012 thing because of P2PF have other web priorities now.
The basic point to clear would be the used domain, whether to use n-1.cc and create a group there, or; set up another elgg (or elgg lorea?) platform on the p2pf domain, on the free-projects.net, or in the amalurccop.org (see here: https://n-1.cc/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=98864&group_guid=7826 ) or else. so, what kind of free social networking tool does the p2pf wants for now and-or for the future ? .
I think we need more voices here, mainly from Michel, Chris and others using the actual Ning. I am not familiar with it.
but if you are asking me for my availabilty for holding some more admin passwords for this kind of project, yes i guess i can.
Yeah, something like that. I reffered to your interest and availability to help to move this forward in case we agree to do it. Best, -- Franco Iacomella
hi guys, still on the road ... I'm a bit agnostic on Ning, which is not really used a lot ... I have used it mainly for announcements that are too 'formal' for the regular blog, and to give a boost to some initiatives ... what I like about Ning is the integration of different services ... any open alternative is fine for me, but as usual, if no gardener comes forward, it will remain a rather passive tool .. Michel On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Franco Iacomella <[email protected]>wrote:
El 03/11/11 15:26, mrc escribió:
besides of linking, the openid facility and other stuff i may be missing.. i don't see further compatibilities between elgg and mediawiki.
There is a nice Mediawiki plugin for elgg that allows to render page contents in elgg and display user's page in dashboard and other stuff.
andhttp://bitbucket.org/rhizomatik/lorea_production has many addons for the elgg distro. (is not a fork)
see alsohttp://lorea.org
Yeap, I am already using some of its addons in a elgg 1.8 implementation.
We can start planning this for 2012. cool, it leaves time for discussing and planning it well.
however, for being a bit more concrete: i'd like the time deadline to be for 1-january-2012 than for 1-september-2012.
I think this need more discussion and hands to reach a stage where we can define a deadline. I think is 2012 thing because of P2PF have other web priorities now.
The basic point to clear would be the used domain, whether to use n-1.cc and create a group there, or; set up another elgg (or elgg lorea?) platform on the p2pf domain, on the free-projects.net, or in the amalurccop.org (see here: https://n-1.cc/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=98864&group_guid=7826 ) or else. so, what kind of free social networking tool does the p2pf wants for now and-or for the future ? .
I think we need more voices here, mainly from Michel, Chris and others using the actual Ning. I am not familiar with it.
but if you are asking me for my availabilty for holding some more admin passwords for this kind of project, yes i guess i can.
Yeah, something like that. I reffered to your interest and availability to help to move this forward in case we agree to do it.
Best,
-- Franco Iacomella
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