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Helping the Occupy Movement....
by robert searle 12 Oct '11

12 Oct '11

Dear All, I have been busy putting up notices on various Facebook sites from the Occupy Movement. It would be NICE if people here could do the same.My notice is as follows.... BANKS CREATE MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR........ Here, are some interesting, and credible sources which the PEOPLE NEED TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT ASAP ... http://www.positvemoney.org.uk/ Note one interesting page from the above http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/2011/10/breath-fresh-air-conference-banking… http://www.monetary.org/---------------------------------------------------… Also, my advanced project http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Transfinancial_Economics The first two site links are more credible, and authoratative ofcourse than my evolving project on TFE...hence, I left that as the last link...

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Fwd: FW: OccupiedUSA LiveStream NewsRoom | Protests Spreading Like Wildfire
by Michel Bauwens 12 Oct '11

12 Oct '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Hazel Henderson <hazel.henderson(a)ethicalmarkets.com> Date: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:56 AM Subject: FW: OccupiedUSA LiveStream NewsRoom | Protests Spreading Like Wildfire To: kristy(a)biscaynewriters.com Cc: ampedstatus(a)ampedstatus.com, rosalinda.sanquiche(a)ethicalmarkets.com, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> Hi kristy ;Please post on www.ethicalmarkets.com on our Reforming Global Finance , Global Citizens and Wealth of Network pages, thanks **** ** ** Hi Occupy Wall St and Amped Status, thanks for your efforts .We support you by extending your voice,**** ** ** Hazel**** ** ** **** ** ** *HAZEL HENDERSON***** D.Sc.Hon., FRSA, author, futurist, president - Ethical Markets Media, LLC*** * PO Box 5190, St. Augustine, FL 32085; Phone: 904/829-3140, Fax: 904/826-0325 **** *www.EthicalMarkets.com<http://../../../../../../Documents%20and%20Settings/Hazel.ETHICAL.000/Application%20Data/Microsoft/Signatures/www.EthicalMarkets.com>, www.hazelhenderson.com<http://../../../../../../Documents%20and%20Settings/Hazel.ETHICAL.000/Application%20Data/Microsoft/Signatures/www.hazelhenderson.com>, www.calvert-henderson.com***** **** Check TV listings for our latest show *The Money Fix* on PBS affiliates and new episodes of Ethical Markets TV Series on *Transforming Finance* at www.ethicalmarkets.tv.**** ** ** The content of this correspondence is copyrighted © 2011.**** ** ** *From:* AmpedStatus [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2011 1:31 PM *To:* hazel.henderson(a)ethicalmarkets.com *Subject:* OccupiedUSA LiveStream NewsRoom | Protests Spreading Like Wildfire**** ** ** <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=NAjQtz%2BtED3kgrz9JM…> **<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=NAjQtz%2BtED3kgrz9JM…> **<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=NAjQtz%2BtED3kgrz9JM…> *-** **View Our Social Network<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=ycB%2BgesBgO1NsqdTJV…> * **** ** ** **** ** ** **** --**** ** ** **** --**** Welcome to the OccupiedUSA LiveStream News Room (Videos)<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=ktDof82JVqeRJpHvhDlS…> **** This is a collection of livestream video newsfeeds from some of our occupied locations. 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Re: [P2P-F] P2P-Foundation Digest, Vol 10, Issue 37
by Nicholas Roberts 12 Oct '11

12 Oct '11

there is plenty of nihilist Leftist critique out there also especially from the dinosaur vertical Marxists who have a big problem with the anarchic inspired bottom up processes common to these anti-capialist/alter-globalization movements in Europe there is a lot more big tent solidarity then on display in the US... too many old Marxists, who should just shut up and send food parcels, instead whinge about discipline and have created a mini industry critiquing the publications of the movements the old, crusty, seedy Marxists, always say, "There is No Left in the USA". Now its obviously not true, they say "There is no Real, Rigorous, Dialectically Sophisticated, Disciplined Left in the USA" Occupying Occupy Together [image: Reply]Reply [image: More] Nicholas Roberts via<http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> gmail.com to lbo-talk show details 12:29 PM (25 minutes ago) can I just make a general swing at the keyboard intellectuals. get of your arses and get down the places where people are gathering and get involved in the process its real easy to sit at home and read the amatuer, naive, often foolish media that comes out of these media events and spectacles even easier to type-up scathing nihilist critiques about the failure of the Left, the faults of the young, the weakness of the institutions etc etc etc etc etc there is plenty of material, and its been done, too much now is a time, to actually do something, and its time to be an organic intellectual and participate in the messy, smelly, noisy, uncomfortable realities of these kinds of democratic actions soon enough it will dissipate, and you can go back to eating the shit sandwhich of Amercian life but today, and for the next few days, there is something happening worth participating in take your intellect, your knowledge, your experience and GO HELP > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: Cheap "Jibe" at Protestors.... (robert searle)

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cyberunion podcast on occupy
by Michel Bauwens 12 Oct '11

12 Oct '11

http://cyberunions.org/2011/10/11/the-cyberunions-podcast-episode-twenty-on… HI Chris, I wonder if you could link this podcast in our blog, with some commentary, perhaps that of Orsan, and a reference to the rest of the series? Many thanks!! Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] P2P-Foundation Digest, Vol 10, Issue 38
by Nicholas Roberts 11 Oct '11

11 Oct '11

hi michel this is my commentary below, and I've done a little collation http://permaculture.tv/u-s-occupy-movement-grows-as-protests-reported-in-84… there is a place for spontaneous, self-organizing, bottom-up organizing, and these occupations are a space for democracy, something that most people really never experience (voting is very different to consensus or participation-based democracy) the Adam Curtis documentaries, and much of the critique here in the US, has been of the "what is the single demand", or "they are so disorganized" which is confusing the public relations media campaign with the democratic assembly.. actually, my own experience of these types of events has its been extremely efficient, far more efficient than government or large corporate technocracies ... however, I do agree with Curtis, after the mobilization, the assembly, there needs to be a kind of organization that sustains and continues once the passions have dissipated and its back to the hard slog of routine day-to-day work, activism etc as to the self-sustaining peer-to-peer production, I agree with Michel, its nearly always being subsidized by state-capitalism, and is almost never internally self-supporting. There is a proposal in the Drupal community for a Drupal worker cooperative, also we discussed it really briefly with Prof Fred Freundlich at Mondragon University, i.e. New Economy worker coops, i.e. why are open source projects only ever corporation sponsored communities ? -- Nicholas Roberts US 510-684-8264 http://Permaculture.TV http://permaculture.coop * <in fact all peer production projects *are* self-sustaining. That > is part of their positive feedback cycle. Probably you are talking of > something else.> > > Peer production projects can be collectively sustainable by relying on a > continuous stream on voluntary contributions, but they do presently not > sustain their members, who are usually paid by for-profit companies or as > freelancers on a marketplace ... i.e. the commons is not independently > sustainable for its members; this is why I propose that commoners/peer > producers create their own structures for a more autonomous cycle of > reproduction. > > > hi nicolas, perhaps you could embed this with some commentary of yours? > > you will like it: http://www.vimeo.com/30078496 > > From: Nicholas Roberts <nicholas(a)themediasociety.org> > > there is plenty of nihilist Leftist critique out there also > > especially from the dinosaur vertical Marxists who have a big problem with > the anarchic inspired bottom up processes common to these > anti-capialist/alter-globalization movements > > in Europe there is a lot more big tent solidarity then on display in the > US... > > too many old Marxists, who should just shut up and send food parcels, > instead whinge about discipline and have created a mini industry critiquing > the publications of the movements > > the old, crusty, seedy Marxists, always say, "There is No Left in the USA". > Now its obviously not true, they say "There is no Real, Rigorous, > Dialectically Sophisticated, Disciplined Left in the USA" > > Occupying Occupy Together > [image: Reply]Reply > [image: More] > Nicholas Roberts > via< > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=1311182 > > > gmail.com to lbo-talk > show details 12:29 PM (25 minutes ago) > can I just make a general swing at the keyboard intellectuals. > > get of your arses and get down the places where people are gathering and > get > involved in the process > > its real easy to sit at home and read the amatuer, naive, often foolish > media that comes out of these media events and spectacles > > even easier to type-up scathing nihilist critiques about the failure of the > Left, the faults of the young, the weakness of the institutions etc etc etc > etc etc > > there is plenty of material, and its been done, too much > > now is a time, to actually do something, and its time to be an organic > intellectual and participate in the messy, smelly, > noisy, uncomfortable realities of these kinds of democratic actions > > soon enough it will dissipate, and you can go back to eating the shit > sandwhich of Amercian life > > but today, and for the next few days, there is something happening worth > participating in > > take your intellect, your knowledge, your experience and GO HELP > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Fw: Cheap "Jibe" at Protestors.... (robert searle) >

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Re: [P2P-F] suitable metrics to use for non financial use-value ?
by Michel Bauwens 11 Oct '11

11 Oct '11

you may want to have a look here: http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Accounting and in particular: http://p2pfoundation.net/Alternative_Measures_of_Human_Well-Being On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What are the most suitable metrics to use for non financial use-value ? > Square meters of housing ( renovated or not ) per inhabitant ? > Access to infrastructure ? ... > > In terms of use value, is our wealth increasing ? > > In classical GDP figures, privatisation and speculation increase total > figures... while potentially reducing quality of life for people for which > such services or access to privatized infrastructure becomes too expensive. > > *Is there a website where we can see the evolution of "quality of live" > based on non financial metrics ?* > > Example / Context : > > What is the impact of speculation on housing > ( some people or companies buying and reselling buildings, and making > people who rent pay the cost of the loan ) > on our net use value capacity ? > > I personally witnessed in Brussels a reduction of living space compared to > a certain percentage of income. > People who have not had the opportunity to have access to credit to buy a > house, > end up giving a increased amount of their salary to rent. > > In Belgium, and more specifically in Brussels, > in 2004 the selling price of houses and appartments nearly doubled ( in > only that one year ) > > see figures : > > > http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/modules/publications/statistiques/economie/ventes… > > data visualized in google graph : > > http://www.google.com/publicdata/overview?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_ > > Evolution of real estate prices in Belgium > More info »<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.statbel.fgov.be&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNH94WM…> > Data from FPS Economy and Fedict<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.statbel.fgov.be&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNH94WM…> > - Last updated: May 6, 2011 > Data > Price of a bungalow<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=fa…> > Price of a house<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=fa…> > Price of an appartment<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=fa…> > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] The New Workplace Reality Manifest - The Leadingship Approach
by Michel Bauwens 11 Oct '11

11 Oct '11

hi Rune, the announcement is here at http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-equal-dignity-organization… and has been tweeted/facebooked ... good to see you're keeping your focus .. Michel On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Rune Kvist Olsen <rukvol(a)online.no> wrote: > Hello Michel,**** > > ** ** > > I just wonder if you have received this message I forwarded you last week. > If so, do you think you could post it on your website, and pass it around to > addicted peer to peer readers and viewers within your network?**** > > ** ** > > I will be looking forward to hear from you.**** > > ** ** > > Best**** > > Rune**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Hi,**** > > ** ** > > You will down below find an input that could be inspiring and enlightening > in exploring and modernizing the work and art of leading, as an > organizational form in structuring working processes in new and alternative > ways. The intention with this mind setting impulse is to share a thought > about application and usage of the fast growing dynamics among employees, > which in its essence represents exceeding demands and expectations of change > in the mindset of how humans are working and leading themselves and others. > The role of leading in the New Workplace Reality will signify *Equal > Dignity* and *Mutuality* as core and key factors within the relationships > between individual human beings in the workplace.**** > > ** ** > > The impuls of the Leadingship Approach states:**** > > ** ** > > *“The core principle of Leadingship is founded on our unconditional belief > in our fellow human beings regarding their ability and capability in taking > care of themselves and others. In practising Leadingship we acknowledge and > support peoples pursuit for equal dignity and mutual trust. The consequence > of this belief system is that everyone are leading one self and are making > own personal decisions within their respective working area of > responsibility. Leadingship is the individual process of exploring the > essence of fellowship dynamics at work”, Rune Kvist Olsen 2011* > > * * > > Please enjoy this input! Feel free to make contact.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Sincerely **** > > Rune Kvist Olsen**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *The Equal Dignity Organization – The Workplace with Balanced > Relationships. A vision of shared dynamic assets in structuring the > distribution of power in organizational life.* > > ** ** > > ** ** > > The working life of today is highly demanding for most of the employees in > the working force. A counterbalance of an increasing demanding working life, > is that more and more of the workers will be demanding a change in the > traditional settings of structuring and organizing the workplace. The > individual employee and the workforce as a collective power, will be > requesting and expecting a working situation where the individual human > being will be entitled to gain personal control over one owns work and > working conditions, based on shared equality and mutuality.**** > > ** ** > > The “demanding” employee will in a lesser and lesser degree be relating to > superior authorities as loyal and subservient subordinates, but in stead be > seeking relationships with people that possess complementary and > supplementary competencies (despite the position and rank the person might > occupy in the organization). These consciousness workers will more and more > search for workplaces that can provide 100 % independence (freedom) and > responsibility (trust) as core values for themselves, in stead of being > forced in turning to superior authorities for the making of necessary > decisions concerning their processing of work. The employees need of having > personal freedom to make own decisions and being trusted the responsibility > in taking care of an individual part of work, will more and more emerge as > one of the most valuable assets in modern work life for the individual human > person.**** > > ** ** > > The claims from the workers towards the working society will embody a > transfer of the power (the authority to make decisions) from superior > authorities outside the individual person to the personal authority within > the individual. This type of organizing of the workplace will be based upon > the willpower and abilities embedded inside the individual human being, in > taking independent and responsible decisions within ones own area of work in > concert with equals.**** > > ** ** > > The vision behind this type of organizing the working processes, is that > the power will be distributed on basis of the person, and not on the > position. This structuring of power will confirm and secure that decisions > are made on the basis of competence, and will consequently counteract > decisions made on the basis of position and rank. Decisions made primarily > on basis of position without sufficient and adequate competence, have in > numerous of cases within the private and public sector of working life > resulted in serious miscalculations and wrongdoings. Such misjudgements can > easily end up dramatically and have fatal discrediting impacts on the > legitimacy of the corporation in society. A competence-based organization > will ensure the quality of the decision processes and not at least > contribute to the keeping of qualified and competent employees. **** > > ** ** > > The New Workplace Reality which is based on competence in the performance > of leading at work, will by its essence exercise a significant attraction of > power towards workers that are looking for individual freedom and mutual > trust as the prime source in unfolding and unlashing their personalities > together with others. The cooperation and interaction between the > individuals on equal footing, will inevitably result in a natural > realization of their own and others achievements, efforts and performances > at work. Personal ability and capability appears as a manifestation of the > interface between the factors “effort” and “performance”, where the > arrangement of this interactive collaborative force is quite decisive for > the ultimate result of the processing of work. Not at least can this way of > structuring the processes of decision making and the work of leading, be > preferred by the demanding generation of employees that will be dominating > the workforce in the near future. When people will be entitled freedom and > trust and that personal responsibility is ruled and governed through > individual competence and inner authority, the individual human being will > gain a natural disposition for this kind of workplace. The nature of > Leadingship implies that the employees must be responsible for their own > judgements and decisions. The person must *TAKE* responsibility for the > processing of one owns work and the consequences of the result of the work. > There will be will none who are ready to *GIVE* others responsibility for > the work, and in that sense no one can take the credit or the blame for the > result of others.**** > > ** ** > > The Workplace with Balanced Relationships where everyone are sharing equal > value and worth, will have a need for people that are used to take > responsibility for themselves and others. It takes time to transform the > culture of the organization from the traditional structuring of power (with > superiors and subordinates) to a structuring of power where everyone are > entitled equal worthiness regarding personal freedom and mutual trust. It > takes time to enable people to function, act and perform as equal members of > the working community. People can only enable themselves in doing the work > as sovereign individuals through a belief system that creates consciousness > about the rights to act and behaves as peers, with the profound > understanding that *the work and art of leading is to lead processes and > not persons.* When the awareness and understanding about this way of > structuring power and organizing the work of leading have matured in the > minds of the people, the results of this mind setting will be sustainable in > the way we perceive and conceive our sense of honour and responsibility at > work.**** > > ** ** > > I am hoping that this request can provide some clues in developing a > workplace where everyone is their own leader and no one is neither superior > nor inferior towards each other. **** > > ** ** > > Herby attached is a paper that can give a short introduction to the > conceptualization of Leadingship. Should any one desire a more profoundly > study of this subject, the following link will give access to the collection > of The New Workplace Reality Series. The link is as follows;**** > > *http://democratus.yolasite.com/avis.php* > > * * > > ** ** > > Please make contact if you wish to explore this approach furher.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Regards**** > > Rune Kvist Olsen**** > > Design and implementation of the Equal Dignity Organization**** > > rukvol(a)online.no**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] internalising food costs, what impact?
by Michel Bauwens 11 Oct '11

11 Oct '11

thanks for the interesting discussion! On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Charles Eisenstein <charles(a)panenthea.com>wrote: > yup, agree with all of this, very insightful. In the book I just take a > couple examples of this kind of logic, but don't go into detail to establish > the case. I think other people have already established quite well that our > system depends hugely on hidden subsidies and externalized costs. I refer to > that, but pretty much take it as already demonstrated. > I think that when we accept the principle of the commons, then such > proposals as these > > Or if offshore > drillers had to deal with fishing cooperatives that managed offshore > waters as commons and took tort action against oil companies for > threatening to hurt their livelihoods? > > will become very attractive. > This isn't communism here, this is just fairness. If you take something > from everyone you should have to pay for it. > Charles > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Civil Society and the United Nations: Legitimating Global Governance-Whose Voice.
by Michel Bauwens 11 Oct '11

11 Oct '11

Hi James, do you know about this book? * *Civil Society and the United Nations: Legitimating Global Governance-Whose Voice.* Nora McKeon studied history at Harvard University and political science at the Sorbonne before joining the FAO. She held positions of increasing responsibility there, culminating in overall direction of the FAO's relations with civil society. She now divides her time between consulting, writing and lecturing on food systems, peasant farmer movements and UN-civil society relations; and coordinating an exchange and advocacy program for African and European farmers’ organizations on agriculture and trade policy issues. Her recent publications include *Peasant Organizations in Theory and Practice* (with Michael Watts and Wendy Wolford, UNRISD 2004), *Strengthening Dialogue with People’s Movements: UN experience with small farmer platforms and Indigenous Peoples* (with Carol Kalafatic, UN-NGLS 2009) and *Civil Society and the United Nations: Legitimating Global Governance-Whose Voice.*(Zed 2009). -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Occupy Israel...!
by robert searle 11 Oct '11

11 Oct '11

The following comes from Facebook. Some pics of demonstrations! http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.295792333781139.93139.295234367…

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