Re: [P2P-F] suitable metrics to use for non financial use-value ?
you may want to have a look here: http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Accounting and in particular: http://p2pfoundation.net/Alternative_Measures_of_Human_Well-Being On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < [email protected]> wrote:
What are the most suitable metrics to use for non financial use-value ? Square meters of housing ( renovated or not ) per inhabitant ? Access to infrastructure ? ...
In terms of use value, is our wealth increasing ?
In classical GDP figures, privatisation and speculation increase total figures... while potentially reducing quality of life for people for which such services or access to privatized infrastructure becomes too expensive.
*Is there a website where we can see the evolution of "quality of live" based on non financial metrics ?*
Example / Context :
What is the impact of speculation on housing ( some people or companies buying and reselling buildings, and making people who rent pay the cost of the loan ) on our net use value capacity ?
I personally witnessed in Brussels a reduction of living space compared to a certain percentage of income. People who have not had the opportunity to have access to credit to buy a house, end up giving a increased amount of their salary to rent.
In Belgium, and more specifically in Brussels, in 2004 the selling price of houses and appartments nearly doubled ( in only that one year )
see figures :
http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/modules/publications/statistiques/economie/ventes_...
data visualized in google graph :
http://www.google.com/publicdata/overview?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_
Evolution of real estate prices in Belgium More info »<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.statbel.fgov.be&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNH94WMiJ6elZsbbuyISu1PHbOJl_w> Data from FPS Economy and Fedict<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.statbel.fgov.be&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNH94WMiJ6elZsbbuyISu1PHbOJl_w> - Last updated: May 6, 2011 Data Price of a bungalow<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=bungalowprice> Price of a house<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=houseprice> Price of an appartment<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=aptprice>
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Interesting. I am also interested in statistical reports, based on objective metrics ( as opposed to subjective ), not based on monetary evaluations, over time, and according to locality. I would like to be able to use certain measurable / objectively quantifiable goals, and then enable a p2p approach to reach such quantifiable goals, through for example regional economic development policies where intentional p2p networks can support the development of such set objectives, as in a collaborative game. One example : http://regional-economic-communities.info/ or certain housing policies in Marinelda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinaleda,_Spain On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>wrote:
you may want to have a look here: http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Accounting
and in particular: http://p2pfoundation.net/Alternative_Measures_of_Human_Well-Being
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < [email protected]> wrote:
What are the most suitable metrics to use for non financial use-value ? Square meters of housing ( renovated or not ) per inhabitant ? Access to infrastructure ? ...
In terms of use value, is our wealth increasing ?
In classical GDP figures, privatisation and speculation increase total figures... while potentially reducing quality of life for people for which such services or access to privatized infrastructure becomes too expensive.
*Is there a website where we can see the evolution of "quality of live" based on non financial metrics ?*
Example / Context :
What is the impact of speculation on housing ( some people or companies buying and reselling buildings, and making people who rent pay the cost of the loan ) on our net use value capacity ?
I personally witnessed in Brussels a reduction of living space compared to a certain percentage of income. People who have not had the opportunity to have access to credit to buy a house, end up giving a increased amount of their salary to rent.
In Belgium, and more specifically in Brussels, in 2004 the selling price of houses and appartments nearly doubled ( in only that one year )
see figures :
http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/modules/publications/statistiques/economie/ventes_...
data visualized in google graph :
http://www.google.com/publicdata/overview?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_
Evolution of real estate prices in Belgium More info »<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.statbel.fgov.be&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNH94WMiJ6elZsbbuyISu1PHbOJl_w> Data from FPS Economy and Fedict<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.statbel.fgov.be&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNH94WMiJ6elZsbbuyISu1PHbOJl_w> - Last updated: May 6, 2011 Data Price of a bungalow<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=bungalowprice> Price of a house<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=houseprice> Price of an appartment<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kafu20cbd2gp_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=aptprice>
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