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Re: [P2P-F] [P2P-URBANISM WA] pattern language of transition, interview with christopher alexander
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Dear Michael, if you ever write something on your project, let me know, Michel On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Michael Mehaffy <michael.mehaffy(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Dear All, > > By coincidence I was visiting Chris a few weeks ago and the subject of this > interview came up. I read the proof and we discussed it. There is one > issue that I think is really important: the notion that a pattern language > has to be project-specific. I have been thinking about this and it is one > of the keys for the success of PLs in the software world. A software coder > does not construct an ideal PL for an ideal problem for all time - that > would be a waste of time. Instead they construct a PL for a given project, > using other patterns from the repsitory, and adapting them. > > Based on this insight I have begun to work on a "Project Pattern Language" > methodology (or PPL for short) that will greatly simplify this process. A > version of which I do use in my own work, but this kind of work needs to be > greatly expanded, along with the number of patterns and their availability, > if we are going to have the success of the software world. > > And also, to come back to the point in the interview, to get at the key > thing that PLs are meant to do: to provide generative capability for a whole > transformation, instead of a mechanical assemblage. It was this insight > that got the software programmers very excited in the first place - > addressing the bugbear of their business, serial mechanism - and I think > this is the exciting dimension ahead. > > And of course it's open-source by nature, and has a very strong core P2P > component. > > The other parallel from the software world is that for the actual > implementation process, no one sat around waiting for Chris to come up with > it. they ran with it themselves, checking back with Chris for new ideas. I > think that model also has to be part of the new methodology, which is also > P2P in that sense. So I will welcome feedback and collaboration on this > approach, and hope to have a draft "white paper" to share with you soon... > > Cheers, m > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> http://transitionculture.org/2010/12/23/exclusive-to-transition-culture-an-… >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> "P2P-Urbanism World Atlas" group. >> to register to the group >> http://cityleft.blogspot.com/ >> To post to this group, send email to >> p2p-urbanism-world-atlas(a)googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/p2p-urbanism-world-atlas?hl=en >> > > > > -- > Michael Mehaffy > 333 S. State Street, Suite V-440 > Lake Oswego, OR 97034 > www.tectics.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > "P2P-Urbanism World Atlas" group. > to register to the group > http://cityleft.blogspot.com/ > To post to this group, send email to > p2p-urbanism-world-atlas(a)googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/p2p-urbanism-world-atlas?hl=en > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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is there a direct link between qe and the euro-crisis/food inflation
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

watch this: http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2011/01/14/max-keiser-interview-in-denve… comments to the main thesis very welcome, Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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pattern language of transition, interview with christopher alexander
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

http://transitionculture.org/2010/12/23/exclusive-to-transition-culture-an-… -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Re: [P2P-F] LAW grps Buzz from Michel Bauwens
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Thanks Mark, I see your point, still it shows also the dark side of 'commons' derived vigitante justice, if it thus not protect the right of individuals and becomes the vehicle for whatever 'common feeling' dominates at any given moment, would be great if you could write something publishable on this!! Michel On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Mark Petz <ravenwyn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > OK Vehmic Courts and the Vigilantes are done outside the system of > authoritarianism. So the others were based on a feudal system - one that was > controlled in a *hierarchy* > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy > > Outside of this system I want to take the individual things separately > > 1, Vigilantism - > > "such individuals fulfill the like-minded wishes of the community" > > is found here > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante > > So to me this is about peers sharing a view of justice and the sanctions > that derive from it. They usually subject their peers to this form of > justice. Of course they may violate civil rights - but that is because the > "civil rights" ARE designated by the government - which is hierachical and > non communal in many cases. It certainly is not a peer to peer governance. > > There are examples where such peer to peer justice is happening on-line: > 4chan, Justice League in Second Life are perhaps the best known forms. It > could happen in a bulletin board where rating of comments is given for > example troll quotients - and does to some extent in wikipedia where people > can be banned from editing articles or have accounts suspended. Of course in > this case the rules are written - but if you look at the praxis you will > find that there is no judge or appeal process and no jury system - it is a > peer to peer justice and can be quite variable. > > Now off line - I would say some of the vigilantism is the same with > authorities not being competent to decide - you can see this in THE SCENT OF > A WOMAN film - with a school boy code talked about. I cannot know what your > schooling was like, but in most UK schools the concept of "A Grass" and the > same in Prisons leads to such a commons. > > I haven't studied in depth this to find out aspects of the commons in it, > and much reporting is from a negative view point (for example when will you > hear of anyone defending carrying knives for self-defence? but you will > often hear of the benefits of carrying guns for self-defence - there are > reasons for this related to who can get and control the weapons and thus who > reports on them). > > 2. Vehmic Courts - initially this looks like it is just another > hierarchical system, just in parallel to the main justice system - much as > the system was set up in Kosava or Albania during times of trouble - with > things being decided in large communal meetings, including justice, yet > still clear leads and council of elders approach. > > BUT I think it is not the Catholic Church hierarchy - but closer to sharia > law as practiced in many communities today - where the people felt that the > religion was not being properly enforced - so in common they had a belief > that something needed judgement and the Church and State were not giving > that. They thus leant their tacit support to this and held the judgements as > correct in common. So there was a commonality here that the state and church > apparatus did not have. > > It is more than just "the court of public opinion" > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_public_opinion > > as there is a belief that the governance is held by the people. Judge and > Jury and Executioner. > > > I HOPE THAT IS CLEAR WHERE I COULD SEE PHILOSOPHICAL UNDERPINNING OF > COMMONS IN THESE FORMS OF JUSTICE. I was so long in replying as too much to > do! I will send you a mail on one other aspect of commons justice called Ran > Tanning > > Markus > > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at2:45 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> hi mark, >> >> apart from the egalitarian diggers and levellers, >> >> how do you see the vehmic courts and vigilantes are related to the >> commons? I would rather call them anti-commons, since they violate basic >> civic rights, >> >> Michel >> >> On Tuou e, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Mark Petz <ravenwyn(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OK here is some >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehmic_court >>> http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/sma/sma26.htm >>> >>> http://www.diggers.org/top_entry.htm >>> http://levellers.org/ >>> >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante >>> >>> Sharia law can be argued as similar in the way it is executed - although >>> there are authoritries it is not so common. >>> >>> m >>> >>> Link to this post: >>>> >>>> http://www.google.com/buzz/116589201391591303703/S6ohkQKuhRf/mbauwens-Added… >>>> >>>> Nov 15 *Michel Bauwens:* mbauwens <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>: Added >>>> to the wiki: Sources of Commons Law: http://bit.ly/aZXQAi >>>> Nov 15 *Mark Petz:* what about things like the Fehm Gerichte in Bayern? >>>> Or vigilante justice? These are also forms of common law. Such sentiments >>>> gave rise to Diggers and Levellers >>>> Nov 15 *Michel Bauwens:* if you have any precise references, I'd like >>>> to add them to this list >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >> >> >> >> >> > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Re: [P2P-F] ran tan
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

thanks Mark! On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Mark Petz <ravenwyn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://homepages.which.net/~rex/bourne/diary200903.htm<http://homepages.which.net/%7Erex/bourne/diary200903.htm> > > and the relevant bit is here (please note this website is a small local one > and so they keep moving and deleting these bits). So keeping a copy like > this is good. > > *Saturday 28th March 2009* > *The retired banking *boss Sir Fred Goodwin whose windows were smashed and > car vandalised this week as a reprisal for his gargantuan and unearned > pension payout should count himself lucky for had he been living in this > part of the country 100 years ago then the consequences would have been far > more severe. Instead of a foray lasting a few minutes by angry > anti-capitalist protestors outside his Edinburgh home, he would have found > himself at the mercy of the mob for several days, anxious to vent their > wrath by what was known as ran-tanning, a particularly nasty form of social > punishment prevalent in the South Lincolnshire fens until the early years of > the last century. > > Ran-tanning was a notorious method of expressing public indignation > whenever someone transgressed the bounds of what was perceived to be good > behaviour but as with all illegal gatherings the definition was usually > confined to that laid down by the ringleaders and often closely resembled a > riot. If a person had committed some act of which the other villagers > disapproved, they would congregate near their house carrying an effigy of > the persons who had incurred their displeasure and making a terrible > commotion by beating with sticks, tins, cans, pots, pans, buckets and > kettles, playing mouth organs, booing, shouting and singing and on occasions > lighting bonfires. The demonstrations were carried on for a number of nights > in succession, usually three, after which the effigy would be burned. > > This was a form of vigilantism likely to provoke social disorder, doled out > to anyone who breached the local code of what was right and what was wrong > and was particularly likely in the case of sexual misdemeanours such as > adultery and domestic incidents such as wife beating. In fact, cases became > so frequent and so serious during the late 19th century that they eventually > attracted the attention of the authorities and ran-tanning was banned under > the Highways Act of 1882. Yet cases persisted. Illicit sexual liaisons were > particularly prevalent in this country during the Great War of 1914-18 when > husbands had either volunteered or been conscripted into the army to fight > in the trenches of Flanders and France leaving wives behind who were > vulnerable to temptation although always wary of what the neighbours might > say. > > Not all of the soldiers were sent home immediately after the Armistice and > by the following summer, hundreds had still not been reunited with their > loved ones and in 1919, a case came before the magistrates at the town hall > in Bourne when it was alleged that a woman and her lover had been ran-tanned > by a group of men at Rippingale on August 29th on the grounds that she had > been carrying on with a sergeant-major on leave while her husband was still > away from home serving with the army. > > Eight men were summoned to appear for unlawfully joining in a brawl and the > case created so much interest that the courtroom was crowded with villagers > for the entire two-hour hearing when the police described how they had been > called out to quell a riot in which a crowd of men were causing pandemonium > outside a house by beating drums, tins, buckets, plough shares, old pieces > of iron and playing instruments, shouting and yelling, later gathering in a > nearby field where two effigies were burned. The disturbances continued for > three nights by which time the entire village was in a state of commotion > and the noise could be heard two miles away but the men refused to stop > despite warnings that they were guilty of disorderly conduct. > > Solicitor Cecil Crust, who appeared for the defendants, argued that the men > were not guilty of a brawl and quoted the dictionary definition as “a noisy > quarrel” and whilst he admitted that there had been some noise, insisted > that the men were not quarrelling. His argument was overruled by the > magistrates and Superintendent Herbert Bailey, head of the Bourne police, > told the bench: “The conduct of these men was disgraceful and it is > abominable that people should be subjected to such rowdyism.” After some > discussion, the magistrates agreed to the charges being withdrawn provided > the defendants expressed regret for their actions and undertook not to > repeat such incidents under any circumstances in the future although they > were ordered to pay costs. > > Ran-tanning was by then dying out and the last recorded case in these parts > was at Quadring Fen, near Spalding on 15th February 1928 when the victim was > a woman alleged to have made remarks scandalising her neighbours. Police > intervened and 23 people were charged with disorderly conduct when the court > was told that ran-tanning was perhaps the only survival of mob law which > existed in this country. All of the defendants were fined between five and > ten shillings and ordered to pay costs and there have been no further cases > of this nature since. > > Perhaps the case of Fred the Shred has provoked a return to this old but > effective method of castigation because we hear that banking fat cats in > London have been warned to be on their guard during the G20 summit next week > in case of revenge attacks by militants for the collapse of the financial > system. We wonder if ran-tanning is likely to spread to the capital and if > this is why the police are being issued with dozens more taser guns. > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Re: [P2P-F] About FloodAid.com.au | Flood Aid for victims of the Queensland Floods | FloodAid.com.au
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

I did not, thanks for the forward! On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:54 PM, jose ramos <jose(a)actionforesight.net>wrote: > Michel, Darren > > have you seen this ? http://floodaid.com.au/content/about-floodaid > > compliments of Tim Mansfield > > jose > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jose ramos <jose(a)actionforesight.net> > Date: Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:04 AM > Subject: Fwd: About FloodAid.com.au | Flood Aid for victims of the > Queensland Floods | FloodAid.com.au > To: Daryl Taylor <taylor.daryl(a)yahoo.com.au> > > > http://floodaid.com.au/content/about-floodaid > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tim Mansfield <timbomb(a)timbomb.net> > Date: 2011/1/15 > Subject: About FloodAid.com.au | Flood Aid for victims of the > Queensland Floods | FloodAid.com.au > To: José Ramos <jose(a)actionforesight.net>, Gareth Priday > <garethpriday(a)hotmail.com> > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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global consciousness and global governance material
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:47 PM Subject: Re: help:) To: dante.monson(a)gmail.com Cc: Hajnalka Szarvas <hajnalkaszarvas(a)gmail.com>, Charles van der Haegen < charlesvdh(a)pvac.skynet.be>, Trey Darley <trey(a)treyka.net> Dear Hajnalka, There are really many strands in this, and I advice you to join Quora, a q and a community that answers questions like this, - have a look at http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Intelligence, for the collective intelligence approach, with people like Georrge Por, Noubel, etc ... - the cosmopolitanism approach with people like (Edith) Kaldor (see http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Cosmopolitanism) - the integral approach, i.e.. takes on the evolution of consciousness, like Ken Wilber's Integral Psychology, with all the mappings of authors on the evolution of consciousness - the 'new left' approaches, both the Negri/Hardt Empire vs Multitudes, and the neo-Tardean approaches such as Maurizio Lazzarato - the global commons approaches with James Quilligan and others - recentering global society towards civil society and global action networks (marvin brown and others) - my own approach towards global open design communities and phyles (david de ugarte) That's those I'm familiar with ... I personally would use the metagovernance framing of bob jessop, http://p2pfoundation.net/Metagovernance, to organize all these strands together, and/or some form of WIlber AQAL quadrants My own material on Global Governance will be included in http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Governance and http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy Tell us more on what you already have, and on your own approach, and put a wiki for your research, (you can use the p2p-f wiki for that, that would motivate me to help you more, as it would benefit the whole community) Michel >From the policy page: - Key concepts [2]<http://p2pfoundation.net/Toward_a_New_Multilateralism_of_the_Global_Commons>for a Global Common Wealth <http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Common_Wealth>: Introduction by James Quilligan: Beyond State Capitalism: The Commons Economy in our Lifetimes<http://p2pfoundation.net/Beyond_State_Capitalism:_The_Commons_Economy_in_ou…>. [3] <http://www.onthecommons.org/beyond-state-capitalism> 1. Establishing Global Common Goods<http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Common_Goods>and a Commons Reserve Currency <http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons_Reserve_Currency> 2. The Co-Governance <http://p2pfoundation.net/Co-Governance> and Co-Production <http://p2pfoundation.net/Co-Production> of the Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons>through Commons Trusts <http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons_Trusts> on the basis of Social Charters <http://p2pfoundation.net/Social_Charters> 3. Replacing the scarcity-engineering of neoliberal markets by the abundance engineering of the commons, see the Abundance - Typology<http://p2pfoundation.net/Abundance_-_Typology>and the Wealth Typology <http://p2pfoundation.net/Wealth_Typology> Global Commons and Participatory International Systems 1. Global Commons and Common Sense<http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Commons_and_Common_Sense>. Jorge Buzaglo. real-world economics review, issue no. 51 [12]<http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue51/Buzaglo51.pdf> : policy proposals for a global governance of planetary commons 2. Four Principles and Corollaries of Network Society and the New International Governance<http://p2pfoundation.net/Four_Principles_and_Corollaries_of_Network_Society…>. By by Alexander Schellong, Philipp Mueller. [13]<http://hir.harvard.edu/index.php?page=article&id=1926&p=1> 3. Hilary Cottam on Participatory Global Governance Systems<http://p2pfoundation.net/Participatory_Global_Governance_Systems>: Winter 2010 (Vol.XXXI. No 4) edition of the Harvard International Review. [14]<http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Participatory+systems:+moving+beyond+20th+cen…> 4. Philipp Mueller <http://www.philippmueller.de/> on Planetary Public Policy‎ <http://p2pfoundation.net/Planetary_Public_Policy> and Open Statecraft <http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Statecraft> 5. Steve Waddell <http://p2pfoundation.net/Steve_Waddell> on Global Action Networks <http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Action_Networks> 6. Developing the Meta Services for the Eco-Social Economy<http://p2pfoundation.net/Developing_the_Meta_Services_for_the_Eco-Social_Ec…>: on developing a framework for an eco-social economy - includings its arrangements to manage natural commons. Text proposed by Feasta, Ireland. By Brian Davey with the assistance of John Jopling. [edit<http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy?title=Category:Policy&action=edit&…> ] Alex Evans 1. Shooting the Rapids<http://globaldashboard.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/Shooting_the_rapids.p…>: "argues that the key challenge is to join up the dots between the institutions, processes and actors that we have now. Part of this task involves expanding the scope of multilateralism to engage much more intensively with non-state actors" 2. Multilateralism for an Age of Scarcity<http://globaldashboard.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/Multilateralism_and_S…>: paper uses the shared operating system / shared awareness / shared platforms framework (follow-up of Shooting the Rapids) [edit<http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy?title=Category:Policy&action=edit&…> ] James Greyson <http://p2pfoundation.net/James_Greyson> See: Seven Policy Switches <http://p2pfoundation.net/Seven_Policy_Switches>for strategic change on a planetary level [edit<http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy?title=Category:Policy&action=edit&…> ] James Quilligan 1. Toward a Commons-based Framework for Global Negotiations<http://p2pfoundation.net/Toward_a_Commons-based_Framework_for_Global_Negoti…> 2. People Sharing Resources<http://www.kosmosjournal.org/kjo2/bm%7Edoc/people-sharing-resources.pdf>. Toward a New Multilateralism of the Global Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Toward_a_New_Multilateralism_of_the_Global_Commons>. James Bernard Quilligan Kosmos Journal, Fall | Winter 2009: this article frames what a global commons-based policy and governance structure should be. [edit<http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy?title=Category:Policy&action=edit&…> ] Towards Open Civil Societies - See the work of Steve Waddell <http://p2pfoundation.net/Steve_Waddell>on Global Action Networks <http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Action_Networks> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Hajnalka, ( cc: Michel, Charles, Trey ) > > I add Trey, Charles and Michel ( and also check out the p2pfoundation.netwiki ) > as I know that each of them reads a lot and has a overview on available > books which can be related to > > the topic of research for your thesis : > > quoting you > * > * > *Thesis on " The emergence of global consciousness and its impact on the > system of > global governance. "* >

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Fwd: 8 New Essays plus What's Hot in Tikkun's Winter 2011 Issue
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Patent Received
by Michel Bauwens 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Dear Tom: copying the list on this, Michel On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Tom Crowl <culturalengineer(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks! > > What your network and forum may be most helpful with is this: > > I need a Co-founder. I have a strong vision of where this can go and how it > may be best to get there... and I'm a great speaker and communicator (if I > can ever get anywhere to do those things). And maybe more important than > anything else, I'm relentless! > > I'm charming as Hell and sometimes even charismatic... and also smart > enough to know that I'd be a disaster trying to organize or administer > something like this... and before that anyway there's obviously a need for > money... which means formal business plan, projections, charts and all the > crapola those money guys need to see. > > So I need a hard-headed biz-type with startup experience and/or who's also > good with visionary, sensitive creative-types who don't do the 9-5 too well. > > I suppose there's a possibility of trying to implement on a sort of ad hoc > co-operative basis and will consider but have honestly some skepticism of > the 'kumbayah' approach. > > In practical terms this is a Charity and Campaign Services *'Business'*... > that I believe should be a Commons-owned (not government or corporate owned) > *"PUBLIC INSTITUTION"*. > > Regards, > > Tom Crowl > http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Thanks Tom, please consider this a forum to update on the progress on your >> project!! >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Tom Crowl <culturalengineer(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Thanks Michel for quick response, >>> >>> And I understand. Forgive my frustration. All I can say is I'm trying to >>> put together something useful and maybe even essential. And to do that it >>> has to have a pragmatic foundation. And YES! I need to make a living. >>> >>> I also believe this enterprise should be a profitable construct... but in >>> this case the profits GO TO THE COMMONS! >>> I'd like to move the Commons from being a beggar-at-the-table... to being >>> an equal participant with a voice that can't be ignored. >>> >>> I also believe this can serve as a basis for much of the peer-to-peer >>> functionality that a corporate dominated Facebook has taken... a place where >>> the whole focus isn't about merchandising more crap and mind-distractions >>> (don't get me wrong... fun has a place too) and that this network could form >>> the core for what can become a sort of civic-focussed Facebook for its >>> users. >>> >>> And the independence of this network itself can then become a guardian >>> for the freedom of the web. >>> >>> So forgive me, but it often seems the Corporatist side sees this as a >>> threat... the Right sees this as "Commie-Pinko"... the Left sees this as a >>> scam... and the Intellectual sees me as a rube without credentials. >>> >>> It's made things very lonely and difficult out here. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tom Crowl >>> http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tom, >>>> >>>> thanks for that heartfelt reaction, >>>> >>>> but you cannot expect everybody to be aware of the full background and >>>> context of your project, nor of the personal circumstances, >>>> >>>> There must be an easier way to respond to critique than to expect people >>>> to have read your blog, or even tried the demo; a lot of reactions will come >>>> before people even consider going further into a topic, as >>>> frustating/infuriating as this sometimes may be, >>>> >>>> Michel >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Tom Crowl <culturalengineer(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for feedback Mr. Bauwens, >>>>> >>>>> Help is certainly welcome! >>>>> >>>>> The public service capabilities of television were lost (in the U.S. at >>>>> least) because the public airwaves were not protected from encroachment and >>>>> the eventual complete domination of that landscape by private interests. >>>>> >>>>> I am seeking to protect a critical corner of the Internet landscape. >>>>> This is specifically designated as an enterprise to be COMMMONS-OWNED! (I'll >>>>> be happy expand on how I think that ownership should be designed but nothing >>>>> is set in stone). This is very clearly stated in everything I'm doing. Read >>>>> the damn blog! >>>>> >>>>> Speech, association, charity, etc are ALL peer-to-peer transactions >>>>> that PRECEDE the commercial transaction in human evolution. >>>>> >>>>> I believe the MICRO-transaction is a CRITICAL component for scaling >>>>> opinion influence and other capabilities within the Commons in a scaled >>>>> society... >>>>> >>>>> These transactions are NOT currently practicable under the current >>>>> fucked-up banking paradigm. (Try giving 25 cents to a charity or within a >>>>> networked lobbying effort with PayPal, Visa or Mastercard... ) >>>>> >>>>> If you wish to understand the mechanism try the demo... its been up for >>>>> 3 years. http://www.Chagora.com >>>>> Read the FAQ for more info. Have you done that? Where have you guys >>>>> been for the last 3 years? I could have used some help? Maybe could have >>>>> gotten to the point wouldn't have even needed to bother with the patent... >>>>> WHERE WERE YOU ALL? >>>>> >>>>> The establishment of a network (or networks) of such accounts allows >>>>> for that network to offer far more capabilities than simply the >>>>> micro-transaction for politics or charity... >>>>> >>>>> I'm not a businessman and have dedicated my life to trying to improve >>>>> things for others... even going back to not only refusing induction back in >>>>> the Viet Nam era... but even refusing the damn 2S deferment because I >>>>> thought it laid the groundwork for a more class-divided society (which it >>>>> did). >>>>> >>>>> I'm penniless and pursued this solo because I thought it was right to >>>>> do and there was nobody to help. >>>>> >>>>> This is a patent meant to benefit and protect the Commons. I'll be >>>>> happy to answer any questions if you don't understand the concept, theory or >>>>> mechanism. >>>>> >>>>> I'd hope to eventually receive something since I've lost everything in >>>>> this pursuit. I'd love to be able to go to conferences and tried to go to as >>>>> many as I could but I can't even get across town now... I'm penniless. >>>>> >>>>> This is a PRAGMATIC IMPLEMENTATION... >>>>> >>>>> It's about trying to actually getting something DONE! Maybe it's >>>>> because I once played Ben Franklin in a production of 1776 that I'm really >>>>> into pragmatism... and not much into endless theoretical discussions. >>>>> >>>>> I'm literally starving out here... completely solo... lost everything >>>>> and all you can come up with is to throw bricks? >>>>> >>>>> P.S. For how this might relate to privacy and online identity see this >>>>> piece by Nancy Scola (founders of Personal Democracy Forum and Sunlight >>>>> Foundation have joined my LinkedIn network) at TechPresident and my >>>>> comment... >>>>> >>>>> What's to Actually Like About "Obama's Online ID"? CDT's Aaron >>>>> Brauer-Rieke Explains...<http://techpresident.com/blog-entry/whats-actually-about-obamas-online-id-c…> >>>>> >>>>> P.P.S. Essentially I'm attempting to protect and then give something >>>>> very, very valuable over to the Commons. Maybe you would have preferred this >>>>> patent to have gone to Mark Zuckerberg, Goldman Sacks and the Russian Mafia? >>>>> >>>>> Frankly you should be grateful for the efforts I've made. How hungry >>>>> must I become? I'm disappointed by your knee-jerk reactions. Eventually I >>>>> believe it will be seen that this is an important development. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your careful consideration, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Crowl >>>>> http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Michel Bauwens < >>>>> michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yes, it seems quite contradictory that something billed as commons, is >>>>>> patented ... >>>>>> >>>>>> perhaps Tom can explain his reasoning ... >>>>>> >>>>>> I personally still don't understand what a commons account is, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Whoa. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am wholeheartedly against patenting anything like this, in >>>>>>> principle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is so much already released open source prior art on so much of >>>>>>> what is described in this, that I will truly be surprised of the >>>>>>> patent is granted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Michel Bauwens >>>>>>> <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> > From: Tom Crowl <culturalengineer(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> > Date: Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM >>>>>>> > Subject: Re: Patent Received >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > PATENT GRANTED! >>>>>>> > ... the key to unlocking the potentials of the Commons-dedicated >>>>>>> Account >>>>>>> > Network and the re-vitalization of both representative government >>>>>>> and a >>>>>>> > fragmented and dis-empowered Commons. >>>>>>> > THANKS to you Carrie and thank Michael as well! >>>>>>> > Tom Crowl >>>>>>> > http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Carrie Dottellis >>>>>>> > <CarrieDottellis(a)aplegal.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Congratulations Mr. Crowl, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> We received your patent at our office yesterday afternoon. I have >>>>>>> >> attached a copy of the first page. It is #7,870,067 and the date >>>>>>> is January >>>>>>> >> 11, 2011 (1/11/11 that is easy to remember). >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I will send your patent to you via certified mail at the beginning >>>>>>> of next >>>>>>> >> week, along with information regarding maintenance of the patent. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Have a wonderful weekend. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Carrie Dottellis >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Greenberg & Lieberman, LLC >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> (202) 625-7000 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> 2141 Wisconsin Avenue, NW >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Suite C-2 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Washington, DC 20007 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>> > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Think tank: >>>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>> > http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sam Rose >>>>>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>>>> email: samuel.rose(a)gmail.com >>>>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.org >>>>>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>>>>> ambition." - Carl Sagan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>> >>>>>> Think tank: >>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >>>> >>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> Think tank: >>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >> >> >> >> >> > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Patent Received
by Karl Robillard 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Hello Tom, After quickly reading over the Chagora FAQ I have to say I don't understand why you think it would change anything. I can easily make donations to various projects (political or otherwise) both large and small. I can engage in networked communications using a panoply of existing tools. My current reading of our situation is that money (along with market fundamentalism) is a cause of much of our problems. I see money as an outdated tool, a primitive form of information technology which facilitates corrupt behavior. It tends to get used in the same manner as violence - if a little doesn't solve your problem then use more! You are, like modern financiers, using high-tech tools (digital IT) to manage a low-tech one (money) when the productive thing to do is replace the old with the new. Applying peer production processes (i.e. those without markets or money that empower individuals to directly shape outcomes) to governance would be a meaningful change. Simply tweaking how our representational hierarchy is maintained is not. -Karl

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