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Fwd: [goodrelations] ANN: http://www.productontology.org - more than 300, 000 specific OWL DL classes for types of objects
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:59 AM Subject: Fwd: [goodrelations] ANN: http://www.productontology.org - more than 300, 000 specific OWL DL classes for types of objects To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com>, Samuel Rose < samuel.rose(a)gmail.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [goodrelations] ANN: http://www.productontology.org - more than 300, 000 specific OWL DL classes for types of objects Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:13:30 +0100 From: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp(a)ebusiness-unibw.org> <martin.hepp(a)ebusiness-unibw.org> To: goodrelations <goodrelations(a)ebusiness-unibw.org><goodrelations(a)ebusiness-unibw.org> Dear all: We are happy to release http://www.productontology.org, an online-service that provides valid OWL DL class definitions for all of the ca. 300,000 types of products or services that are contained in the 3.5 million Wikipedia entries. In short, www.productontology.org provides for the schema level what DBpedia provides for the data / instance level of the Semantic Web. A few examples: Laser_printer http://www.productontology.org/id/Laser_printer Manure_spreader http://www.productontology.org/id/Manure_spreader Racing_bicycle http://www.productontology.org/id/Racing_bicycle Soldering_iron http://www.productontology.org/id/Soldering_iron Sweet_potato http://www.productontology.org/id/Sweet_potato The Product Ontology is designed to be compatible with the GoodRelations Ontology for e-commerce, but it can be used for any other Semantic Web or Linked Data purpose that requires class definitions for objects. All Wikipedia translations are preserved. Background informations and FAQs: http://www.productontology.org/#faq Examples in RDF/XML, Turtle, and RDFa: http://www.productontology.org/#examples Any feedback is highly appreciated! Acknowledgments: Thanks to Axel Polleres, Andreas Radinger, Alex Stolz, and Giovanni Tummarello for very valuable feedback. The work on The Product Types Ontology has been supported by the German Federal Ministry of Research (BMBF) by a grant under the KMU Innovativ program as part of the Intelligent Match project (FKZ 01IS10022B). -------------------------------------------------------- martin hepp e-business & web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: hepp(a)ebusiness-unibw.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp _______________________________________________ goodrelations mailing [email protected]://ebusiness-unibw.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goodrelations -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] what we are doing from hirvitalo
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

thanks Mark On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Mark Petz <ravenwyn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://hirvikatu10.net/forest2point0/?p=444 > On Thursday there will be a premiere of our machinima, a first part of our documentary about the culture of wild berry picking and the problems related to the exploitation of Thai migrant labor in finnish forests. The machinima, now named *Lost in Globalisation* will be shown in* Saltburn Community Theatre<http://www.saltburnarts.co.uk/displayEventFullDetails.php?eventSelect=1514&…> * in a screening event starting at 7pm. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: [Commoning] COP 16 in 2 minutes - must see on how a multi-stakeholder-dialogue works :-(
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

hilarious ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Silke Helfrich <Silke.Helfrich(a)gmx.de> Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:21 AM Subject: [Commoning] COP 16 in 2 minutes - must see on how a multi-stakeholder-dialogue works :-( To: Commoning <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76BgKe1naFc all the best Silke _______________________________________________ Commoning mailing list Commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Nominate your favorite projects!
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Dear friends, on the prompting of franco, and asked by one of the organizers, I will nominate ourselves in the digital communities category, but if you could recommend us, in the manner indicated below, that would really help, winning such an award would make a difference for us, Michel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Prix Ars Electronica <info(a)prixars.aec.at> Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:14 PM Subject: Nominate your favorite projects! To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> [Click here if the mail fails to display properly]<http://mlwrx.com/sys/wv.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA> ARS ELECTRONICA [image: px_2] *Prix Ars Electronica 2011* For the 25th time, Prix Ars Electronica<http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA&lnk=47U17>, one of the foremost international prizes for computer-based art, calls for entries in the categories Computer Animation/Film/VFX, Interactive Art, Hybrid Art, Digital Communities, Digital Musics & Sound Art, [the next idea] voestalpine Art and Technology Grant, and u19 – freestyle computing, Austrian’s largest youth computer competition. Help us to identify projects, which in your opinion should participate in the competition and nominate such projects via our website<http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA&lnk=2W4KI>or via Twitter <http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA&lnk=BZ7K2>. Online Submission Deadline: *March 18, 2011* If you want any further information or need support, please contact: info(a)prixars.aec.at <http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA&lnk=4G3S2> Feel free to forward this information. We’d be happy if you help us to "spread the word" in your community! Looking forward to your nominations! Your Prix Ars Electroncia 2011 Team Forward <http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sl=G7C6S&sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA> Change data <http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sl=FTTBA&sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA> Unsubscribe <http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sl=INZQU&sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA> Change data<http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sl=FTTBA&sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA>- Unsubscribe <http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sl=INZQU&sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA> - Contact Impressum: Ars Electronica Linz GmbH | Ars-Electronica-Straße 1 | A-4040 Linz Tel. +43.732.7272.79 | Fax +43.732.7272.674 | E-Mail: info(a)prixars.aec.at<http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA&lnk=4JHH6>| Web: prixars.aec.at <http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA&lnk=VPI0R> This mail was created with mailworx<http://mlwrx.com/sys/rd.aspx?sub=UIYSQ_8B8NA&sl=W1SE9> ®. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] kick-off
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hi Jonathan, in order to join our discussion you can either join our p2p-foundation mailing list, here at http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation or participate through Ning at http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/p2p-and-marxism-launching-the? starting base is jean's essay here just below: On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Jean Lievens <jean.lievens(a)base.be> wrote: > Hi Michel, > > I published a modified version of my comments on the triarchy article on my > p2p page > http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profiles/blogs/p2p-and-marxism-in-search-of > > However, I do not know who is involved in this discussion and who is not. > The mails I get from you contain often different people, and Jonathan does > not seem to be included. > > Can you forward it to your contacts, including me and Jonathan Clyne? < > bretorp(a)telia.com> > > Thanks & warmest greetings > > Jean > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] The Libre Web Application Stack
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

thanks paul! On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog(a)gmail.com>wrote: > posted, tweeted... > > Network Robustness and the Next Net > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/network-robustness-and-the-next-net/2011/03/01 > #nextnet #networks > > -p > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Michel, Colin, etc. > > > > Sure, I'll put some more detail about this up online (with references). > > In a nutshell, scale-free networks are robust to random failures, > > but vulnerable to targeted attacks because you can simply > > take out the hubs first and isolate most of the network parts > > from the other parts. > > > > -p > > > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Colin H <hawkett(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Paul - agree with the sentiment about diversity of routes (and > probably > >> protocols) being more robust, but I was wondering if you could elaborate > on > >> this statement > >> Network topologies robust to random failures are NOT robust to targeted > >> attacks. > >> Network topologies robust to targeted attacks are NOT robust to random > >> failures. > >> > >> I'm imagining a mesh network using a single routing method/topology > (e.g. > >> like the system devin highlighted). This architecture does not preclude > >> multiple routes (in fact in a network with a lot of nodes, there should > be > >> multiple routes). This would seem to be an architecture robust to random > >> failures, but I'm not sure why that architecture would make it any less > >> robust to targeted attack than our current internet - in fact it is > probably > >> more robust (from a failure/attack perspective). I figure I'm looking at > it > >> from a different perspective though :) > >> Cheers, > >> Colin > >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Paul B. Hartzog < > paulbhartzog(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Michel Bauwens < > michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Dear Paul, > >>> > > >>> > it would be useful, if, for example you were going through the list, > to > >>> > identify the more 'core' solutions, perhaps through a star system or > >>> > some > >>> > such, > >>> > >>> will try to get a start on that. I'm only online 2 hrs / day until I > >>> get back home > >>> from Salt Lake City (i.e. Friday will be back to normal) > >>> > >>> > an important question for me is: what is really possible, given a > >>> > society > >>> > dominated by hostile forces? we may not get all we want, and > therefore > >>> > should perhaps focus on leverage points that give the greatest return > >>> > for a > >>> > realistic investment of available forces .. > >>> > >>> > >>> Yes, you have hit on a key point which needs to be discussed / > navigated. > >>> > >>> Basically this: > >>> Network topologies robust to random failures are NOT robust to targeted > >>> attacks. > >>> Network topologies robust to targeted attacks are NOT robust to random > >>> failures. > >>> > >>> The solution of course is to move beyond a singular topology to a > plural > >>> one. > >>> > >>> In other words, > >>> Imagine a dual-network with TWO routing methods and TWO topologies , > >>> and requests are sent in parallel along both networks, > >>> so that if nodes are down in one network, data is routed via the other. > >>> > >>> TWO is a minimum, though. > >>> > >>> The pluralization of networks goes back to the pluralization of > politics > >>> taken up by Connolly in his work The Ethos of Pluralization > >>> ( http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/C/connolly_ethos.html ) > >>> > >>> It is another example of why code people should know theory, > >>> and theory people should learn code. Cross-domain knowledges. > >>> > >>> -p > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Michel > >>> > > >>> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Paul B. Hartzog > >>> > <paulbhartzog(a)gmail.com> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Yes, I was reviewing that page today from Salt Lake City in fact and > >>> >> there are good categories there. > >>> >> > >>> >> From a "lets build it" perspective though > >>> >> I am going to suggest another page with the same ingredients > >>> >> but displayed differently > >>> >> > >>> >> As we identify and bring in various projects > >>> >> it is crucial to list them according to what layer they address. > >>> >> (you can see the layers of OSI here > >>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model ) > >>> >> > >>> >> It's probably not necessary to display entirely based > >>> >> on the full OSI stack, > >>> >> but we at least should probably separate atoms from bits, > >>> >> i.e. > >>> >> projects that address distributed hardware > >>> >> projects that address distributed software > >>> >> > >>> >> technically, running distributed hardware requires > >>> >> software on those nodes anyway, > >>> >> but hopefully you see the point. > >>> >> > >>> >> Most of the projects I've seen are simply > >>> >> software that has some p2p-ish aspect. > >>> >> Slapping that onto a network with ISP's and a backbone, > >>> >> and an oligopoly of router equipment > >>> >> isn't going to solve either provisioning/bandwidth or governance > >>> >> issues. > >>> >> > >>> >> We need to support interest in both hardware and software > >>> >> solutions in order to really build a new p2p net. > >>> >> > >>> >> (my 23 cents ;-) > >>> >> > >>> >> -p > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose(a)gmail.com > > > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >> > Michel, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > We'll definitely do that. I think we'll tie it in with the > >>> >> > distillation of dialogues over the next few weeks, so that the > >>> >> > categorization attempts to reflect what is coming out of these > >>> >> > discussions we are starting. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > So far, your categorizations are definitely good basic > descriptions, > >>> >> > Michel. Thanks very much for putting this page together. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Michel Bauwens > >>> >> > <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> >> Dear Sam, > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> and others, > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> I have tried to categorize projects 'by sector', to the best of > my > >>> >> >> ability, > >>> >> >> but I'd be happy if someone can go throug the main list, and add > new > >>> >> >> subsectors for those I was not able to place easily, > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> both general list and sectoral one are below, > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> source: http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Infrastructure > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Projects to decentralize/distribute the internet: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Appleseed [2] - distributed social network > >>> >> >> Bitcoin, a decentralized internet currency. > >>> >> >> Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where > users > >>> >> >> can run > >>> >> >> their own federated “pods”, thus owning their personal data and > >>> >> >> directly > >>> >> >> controlling what is shared with who. > >>> >> >> The Dot-P2P Project, an alternative DNS hierarchy that resists > >>> >> >> censorship. > >>> >> >> The Freedom Box initiated by Eben Moglen and the Freedom Box > >>> >> >> Foundation: > >>> >> >> independent plug-in server > >>> >> >> GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking that > does > >>> >> >> not > >>> >> >> use > >>> >> >> any centralized or otherwise trusted services > >>> >> >> GNU Social [3] > >>> >> >> LittleShoot is a new web-based p2p file sharing site founded by > one > >>> >> >> of > >>> >> >> the > >>> >> >> creators of LimeWire that could live up to its pedigree > >>> >> >> Lorea [4] - distributed social networks, already running on 10 > >>> >> >> networks > >>> >> >> One Social Web [5] - distributed social network using xmpp > >>> >> >> One Swarm [6]- F2F (friend2friend) P2P sharing; a new > peer-to-peer > >>> >> >> tool > >>> >> >> that > >>> >> >> provides users with explicit control over their privacy by > letting > >>> >> >> them > >>> >> >> determine how data is shared > >>> >> >> Open BTS: working on a new kind of cellular network that can be > >>> >> >> installed > >>> >> >> and operated at about 1/10 the cost of current technologies, but > >>> >> >> that > >>> >> >> will > >>> >> >> still be compatible with most of the handsets that are already in > >>> >> >> the > >>> >> >> market. > >>> >> >> Open Media Vault [7] > >>> >> >> Open Moko, A project to create a 'free' or open source Open > Mobile > >>> >> >> Telephony > >>> >> >> platform. > >>> >> >> Open PGP encryption is based on self-issued certificates which > gain > >>> >> >> authority as a result of a web of trust expressed via user- > >>> >> >> maintained > >>> >> >> keyrings rather than a hierarchical certificate authority system > >>> >> >> that > >>> >> >> can be > >>> >> >> centrally compromised. > >>> >> >> Open Storage Pod, [8] open hardware project, small cubes to store > >>> >> >> terabytes > >>> >> >> Open WRT [9]- GNU/Linux based free firmware for gateways and > >>> >> >> routers. > >>> >> >> Own Cloud, data storage project from the wider KDE community > >>> >> >> Retro Share [10] - secure communications with friends > >>> >> >> Seeks Project [11] - "social websearch" > >>> >> >> Sovereign Computing Group [12] - similar project to Freedom Box, > >>> >> >> with a > >>> >> >> very > >>> >> >> interesting Manifesto. > >>> >> >> Sparkle Share, [13] open source 'dropbox' replacement > >>> >> >> Status.Net is a microblogging system that allows users to run > their > >>> >> >> own > >>> >> >> Twitter-like site and federate selected streams with other > systems. > >>> >> >> The Tahoe Least-Authority File System, a highly fault-tolerant, > >>> >> >> secure > >>> >> >> internet filesystem. > >>> >> >> The Tor Project, an anonymizing overlay network. > >>> >> >> Unhosted: "Unhosted is a project for strengthening free software > >>> >> >> against > >>> >> >> hosted software. With our protocol, a website is only source > code. > >>> >> >> Dynamic > >>> >> >> data is encrypted and decentralised, to per-user storage nodes. > This > >>> >> >> benefits free software, as well as scalability, robustness, and > >>> >> >> online > >>> >> >> privacy." > >>> >> >> YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to > build > >>> >> >> a > >>> >> >> distributed index. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] Distributed Technologies by Sector > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] P2P Currencies > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Bitcoin, a decentralized internet currency. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] P2P Filesharing and Storage > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> LittleShoot is a new web-based p2p file sharing site founded by > one > >>> >> >> of > >>> >> >> the > >>> >> >> creators of LimeWire that could live up to its pedigree > >>> >> >> Open Storage Pod, [14] open hardware project, small cubes to > store > >>> >> >> terabytes > >>> >> >> Own Cloud, data storage project from the wider KDE community > >>> >> >> The Tahoe Least-Authority File System, a highly fault-tolerant, > >>> >> >> secure > >>> >> >> internet filesystem. > >>> >> >> Unhosted: "Unhosted is a project for strengthening free software > >>> >> >> against > >>> >> >> hosted software. With our protocol, a website is only source > code. > >>> >> >> Dynamic > >>> >> >> data is encrypted and decentralised, to per-user storage nodes. > This > >>> >> >> benefits free software, as well as scalability, robustness, and > >>> >> >> online > >>> >> >> privacy." > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] P2P Hardware > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> The Freedom Box initiated by Eben Moglen and the Freedom Box > >>> >> >> Foundation: > >>> >> >> independent plug-in server > >>> >> >> Sovereign Computing Group [15] - similar project to Freedom Box, > >>> >> >> with a > >>> >> >> very > >>> >> >> interesting Manifesto. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] P2P Network Computing > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> For the most fully distributed Peer to Peer Computer Networks at > >>> >> >> present, > >>> >> >> please check out Tribler ;Peerple ; Wipeer > >>> >> >> Research into more fully distributed P2P systems for the future: > >>> >> >> Chord, > >>> >> >> CX > >>> >> >> Project, Farsite, Globe Project, Oceanstore, Pastry > >>> >> >> Decentralized P2P software programs are monitored and indexed > here; > >>> >> >> Flud > >>> >> >> maintains a list of Distributed Internet-based Backup Systemssuch > as > >>> >> >> Tahoe > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] P2P Social Networks > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Appleseed [16] - distributed social network > >>> >> >> Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where > users > >>> >> >> can run > >>> >> >> their own federated “pods”, thus owning their personal data and > >>> >> >> directly > >>> >> >> controlling what is shared with who. > >>> >> >> GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking that > does > >>> >> >> not > >>> >> >> use > >>> >> >> any centralized or otherwise trusted services > >>> >> >> GNU Social [17] > >>> >> >> Lorea [18] - distributed social networks, already running on 10 > >>> >> >> networks > >>> >> >> One Social Web [19] - distributed social network using xmpp > >>> >> >> One Swarm [20]- F2F (friend2friend) P2P sharing; a new > peer-to-peer > >>> >> >> tool > >>> >> >> that provides users with explicit control over their privacy by > >>> >> >> letting > >>> >> >> them > >>> >> >> determine how data is shared > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] P2P Searching > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> List of Distributed Search Engines; [21] > >>> >> >> Seeks Project [22] - "social websearch" > >>> >> >> YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to > build > >>> >> >> a > >>> >> >> distributed index. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> [edit] Virtual Worlds > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Peer to Peer Virtual Worlds: VastPark, Solipsis, Vast; see also: > >>> >> >> Multiverse > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Venessa Miemis > >>> >> >> <venessamiemis(a)gmail.com> > >>> >> >> wrote: > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> just wondering your impression of this post, in terms of the > 'what > >>> >> >>> we > >>> >> >>> need' conversation - > >>> >> >>> The Libre Web Application Stack > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> -- > >>> >> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > >>> >> >> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > >>> >> >> > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; 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Fwd: Launch on a debate on p2p and marxism (and specifically the role of the state and civil society)
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:14 AM Subject: Launch on a debate on p2p and marxism (and specifically the role of the state and civil society) To: p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> Cc: jean lievens <jean.lievens(a)base.be>, Walton Pantland <waltonp(a)gmail.com>, George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com>, Vasilis Kostakis < kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, "Dafermos, George" <g.n.dafermos(a)tudelft.nl>, orsan(a)tie-netherlands.nl, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org>, Raoul < raoulv(a)club-internet.fr>, Johan Söderberg <johan.soderberg(a)sts.gu.se> Jean Lievens has launched the first contribution of what should be an interesting debate, here at http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profiles/blogs/p2p-and-marxism-in-search-of? (see excerpt below) I think we can subdivise the debate in a number of big topical chunks, so thanks for making an effort to specify where exactly you are intervening, by using these subheadings - the historical failure of socialism and the continued dominance of capitalism - the general relationship between marxism and p2p as theoretical and political approaches - the general relationship between p2p movements and social movements, in particular the labour movement - the role of the state, and the attitude to it - the role of civil society, and the attitude to it If you want to join this debate, you can do so here, but I also urge to post or repost the more substantial contributions, for eventual later publication, here at http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/p2p-and-marxism-launching-the - the role of the commons - the role of capitalism and the market - the contemporary nature of human emancipation <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/network-robustness-and-the-next-net/2011/03/01> Debating the role of the state and civil society in P2P Theory<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14367> [image: photo of Michel Bauwens] Michel Bauwens 4th March 2011 A in-depth contribution by Jean Lievens, who addresses a number of important issues in our p2p approach. The full version of Jean’s contribution is here<http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profiles/blogs/p2p-and-marxism-in-search-of?> . *Jean Lievens:* “The very idea of changing society has suffered an enormous blow because of what happened after the Russian Revolution. Although the murderous regimes in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, Eastern Europe… had nothing to do with ‘socialism’ or ‘Marxism’, it was in their name that millions of people perished. One can therefore argue that very term socialism should better not be used anymore. On the other hand in Europe, socialism is also associated with the positive idea of the welfare state, although the right stresses the negative features such as bureaucracy, hierarchy and waste as an excuse for cutting state expenditure. Therefore the idea of ‘something new’, a new idea for a new century, can hit a cord. In terminology, there is a clear link between the terms used by the left and those by the P2P movement: commonism (communism), the commons (communes), etc. These ideas are however not known within the labour movement, that is historically the main driving force behind civil liberties and social justice. As far as I understand the ideas of P2P at the present, I think they will play a crucial role in the transition to a new global society, which could not have been foreseen by Marx or any other ‘classic’ socialist thinker for the very simple reason that these new technologies did not exist. If this future society will be called ‘socialist’ is of secondary importance. But what is important is that it should be more just, equal and ‘happy’ than the present capitalist order witch is untenable anyways. I do not think however that the transition will be gradual or unnoticed by the ruling elites. I think the organized working (or middle) class has of course a key role to play. I think that more clarity is needed on the question of nations and the state. I think that the question of private ownership of the commanding heights of the economy and the relationship between this notion and ‘the commons’ (or an expansion of it) needs to be resolved, and I think that the fundamentals of democracy, meaning exercising control over ones own destiny politically, socially and economically, needs to be deepened. I think there are any overlaps between traditional Marxism and P2P, but as I am more familiar with Marxism than with P2P, I’d like to start with some comments and questions on Michel Bauwens’ article ‘the new triarchy: the commons, enterprise, the state’. P2P is defined as the ability to freely associate around the creation of common value. Can it also be considered as the basis for a new mode of production? The development of the Internet and of networked infrastructures gave rise to all sorts of ‘free associations’, including a new type of businesses. Many of them were not ‘planned’, but developed ‘spontaneously’ as a result of voluntary contributions of thousands and even millions (Wikipedia, Flickr, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook…). On the other hand, we witness the integration of new technologies and P2P production in existing large corporations, finding in some cases a ‘second life’ (IBM, Lego…). A free association of people creating common value is of course nothing new and is proper to civil society: trade unions, political organisations, charity organisations based on gifts and volunteers, hobby clubs, etc. What is new is the ‘digital commons’ allowing people from all over the world to contribute and share on an unprecedented scale, eroding national and nationalistic barriers. As I am not familiar with the structural anthropology of Alan Page Fiske, my understanding of the commons is based on what I found on Wikipedia: “The commons were traditionally defined as the elements of the environment – forests, atmosphere, rivers, fisheries or grazing land – that are shared, used and enjoyed by all. Today, the commons are also understood within a cultural sphere. These include literature, music, arts, design, film, video, television, radio, information, software and sites of heritage. The commons can also include ‘public goods’ such as public space, public education, health and the infrastructure that allows our society to function (such as electricity or water delivery systems). There also exists the ‘life commons’, e.g. the human genome. The Ecologist refers to the commons as “the social and political space where things get done and where people have a sense of belonging and have an element of control over their lives”, providing “sustenance, security and independence”. There are a number of important features that can be used to describe true commons. The first is that true commons cannot be commodified – and if they are – they cease to be commons. The second aspect is that while they are neither public nor private they tend to be managed by local communities and cannot be exclusionary. That is, they cannot have borders built around them otherwise they become private property. The third aspect of the commons is that, unlike resources, they are not scarce but abundant. If managed properly, they work to overcome scarcity. Michel writes: It is customary to divide society into three sectors, and what we want to show is how the new peer to peer dynamic unleashed by networked infrastructures, changes the inter-relationship between these three sectors. The division of society in three sectors: the ‘public’ (or state) sector, the private sector and civil society is indeed customary amongst sociologists, including Marxists academics. However, there are many definitions of civil society. Here’s what Wikipedia says on Civil Society and Marx: “For Marx, civil society was the ‘base’ where productive forces and social relations were taking place, whereas political society was the ‘superstructure’. Agreeing with the link between capitalism and civil society, Marx held that the latter represents the interests of the bourgeoisie. Therefore, the state as superstructure also represents the interests of the dominant class; under capitalism, it maintains the domination of the bourgeoisie. Hence, Marx rejected the positive role of state put forth by Hegel. Marx argued that the state couldn’t be a neutral problem solver. Rather, he depicted the state as the defender of the interests of the bourgeoisie. He considered the state and civil society as the executive arms of the bourgeoisie; therefore, both should wither away.” Gramsci rectified this negative view about civil society. He did not consider civil society as coterminous with the socio-economic base of the state. Rather, Gramsci located civil society in the political superstructure. He underlined the crucial role of civil society as the contributor of the cultural and ideological capital required for the survival of the hegemony of capitalism. Rather than posing it as a problem, as in earlier Marxist conceptions, Gramsci viewed civil society as the site for problem solving. Agreeing with Gramsci, the New Left assigned civil society a key role in defending people against the state and the market and in asserting the democratic will to influence the state. At the same time, Neo-liberal thinkers consider civil society as a site for struggle to subvert Communist and authoritarian regimes. Thus, the term civil society occupies an important place in the political discourses of the New Left and Neo-liberals. So, what definition are we considering here? The same clarification is needed for “the state” and “the private sector”. Michel writes: In the current ‘cognitive capitalist’ system, it is the private sector consisting of enterprises and businesses which is the primary factor, and it is engaged in competitive capital accumulation. The state is entrusted with the protection of this process. Though civil society, through the citizen, is in theory ‘sovereign’, and chooses the state; in practice, both civil society and the state are under the domination of the private sector. ?? This is in line with the Marxist view on the state as a ‘capitalist’ state, defending in the last resort the interests of capitalism or the ‘private sector’. Also the assumption that civil society and the state are under the domination of the private sector does not contradict traditional Marxist thought. Does, however, civil society “choose the state”? It has, as Chomsky point out, in contradiction to the tyranny of corporations, at least some influence on the state through the electoral process. Only in that sense civil society exercise some influence on how the state and state institutions are run. In other words, civil society chooses (mainly indirectly) the government (executive power) through the election of representatives in parliament (the legislative power), who in their turn, again in theory, control the state apparatus. I consider the state as a ‘hybrid’, composed on the one hand of a ‘public sector’, that takes care of education, public transport, health care, housing -the so-called welfare state- and is led by bureaucrats under the control of elected officials, and on the other hand an instrument of coercion, with the police, the army… also led by bureaucrats controlled by elected politicians, and the juridical system (the ‘third power’). Is this view in contradiction with the above statement? Of course, this is not to say that the state is a mere tool of private business. In my view, it fulfils three contradictory functions. One is the protect the whole system, under the domination of private business, and this is determined by a balance of power not only between different private business sectors, but also by the social balance of power between business and civil society, capital and labour. I agree with the assumption that the state protects the whole system under the domination of private business, but it could be considered as a static view. The subsequent statement adds a dynamic element suggesting shifts in the different balances of power. In my view, this statement is consistent with the Marxist theory on class struggle (in a very broad sense): It is only when this balance of power is severely disturbed, that the state either becomes a private tool of some dominant business clique, or, can become relatively independent, as in the case of the fascist state. ? According to Marxism, the balance of power is severely disturbed on the basis of antagonistic interests between different classes in society, leading to class struggle. Does the triarchy model acknowledge the class structure of society, or does it reject it? The fascist state became indeed relatively independent, although it defended in the last resort the interests of private ownership. But what about the former (and present) Stalinist states? Does Michel’s model consider those states as sort of ‘private tool of labour’ that became relatively independent? Marxism talks about the class nature of the state based on the property relations that it defends. So fascism, defending in the last resort capitalist property relations, is in that sense the opposite of Stalinism, defending in the last resort public ownership, despite the overwhelming similarities between the two systems. So, to the first function of being the protector of the total system under domination of capital, we should add two added functions. It is the protector of civil society, depending on the balance of power and achievements of social movements. And finally it is also the protector of its own independent interests. ?? This statement is valid for capitalist systems, but not for the former Stalinist states (North Korea, Cuba…), including China and Vietnam, unless we agree with the assumption that those states were or are state capitalist. I do not agree with this idea since private ownership of the means of production was abolished and the economy in those states did not follow the rules of the market. So I find it difficult to consider those states, including present-day China and Vietnam, as the protectors of the total system under the domination of capital. In addition, what does ‘the protector of civil society’ mean, depending on the balance of power and achievements of social movements? The state in its capacity of an instrument of coercion and repression is often challenged by ‘civil society’, so how can it be considered as ‘the protector’ of it? I think it is correct that the state, even under ‘normal’ circumstances, has its own independent interests to defend, although between certain limits, depending on the level of democratic control over it. We have historically seen three scenarios in the 20th century. Under fascism, the state achieves great independence from the private sector, which may become subservient to the state. Under the welfare state, the state becomes a protector of the social balance of power and manages the achievements of the social movement; and finally, under the neoliberal corporate welfare state, or ‘market state’, it serves most directly the interests of the financial sector. ?? I have no disagreement with this statement, although we need to approach these types in a dynamic way. The welfare state is continuously under attack, social gains are eroded, with the help of the same state that is supposed to protect and manage the achievements of the social movements. What we saw, in the last 25 years, was a gradual evolution from a ‘welfare state’ (Western Europe) to a ‘marker state’ (USA). Again, the ’communist’ states (Russia, China and 35 other states, accounting for 1/3 of the world population) are left out in this article (but I have read other material on this issue from Michel since and will come back on it later). Each sector also had its key institutions and forms of property. The state managed a public sector, under its own property. The private sector, under a regime of private ownership, is geared to profit, discounts social and natural externalities, both positive and negative, and uses its dominance in society to use and dominate the state. Civil society has a certain power through the mechanisms of civil society, but the great majority of its members are in a disadvantaged position because it lacks ownership of the means of production. ?? The first sentence is written in the passed sense, the others in the present. I suppose this is an unintended error, otherwise it would seem that the state does not manage the public sector anymore. Secondly, is a private sector not by definition operating under a regime of private ownership, or is it, in a system of public ownership (communism), where there is a private sector operating (NEP under Lenin, China…), not geared to profit? In general, I think that the division of society into three sectors, the state, the private sector and civil society hides the class nature of society (based on the ownership of means of production). It puts all the beans in the same basket of ‘civil society’. I think that one of the main features of capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production and the profit motive. Capitalist property relations are in my opinion the main obstacles for the free development of P2P, as I understand it. In that sense, it would seem to confirm the old assumption of Marx as presented in the “Preface” to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy. Marx assumes that the levels of productive forces are dynamic, and will eventually outgrow the capacity a given set of relations of production to sustain that growth. To give just one quote: “At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or -this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms- with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. From forms of development of the productive forces these relations turn into their fetters. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure.” According to this theory, the contradiction between the forces of production and the relations of production eventually leads to revolutionary change. This statement can be and often has been interpreted in a deterministic manner, or as a pre-condition for revolutionary change. The revolutionary movements of 68 took place during the height of the post-war boom; revolutionary upsurges in Eastern Europe took place while the economy was growing rapidly. I do not think that these movements were defeated (or did not change the superstructure) because conditions were not ‘ripe’ because the productive forces were still developing. However, civil society has a relative power as well, through its capability of creating social movements and associations. Amongst those are religious institutions, civil associations, political parties, the labour movement, identity and sectoral movements, and since the 1960’s mostly, issue-oriented non-profits. In the context of industrial and cognitive capitalism, natural resource commons slowly disappeared, and the institution of the commons became a non-player, in the dual struggle between the private and the state sector, influenced by the relative strength or weakness of civil society and its movements. Capitalism has historically been a pendulum between the private and the public sector, and the commons mostly irrelevant in the struggles for more or less state intervention. ?? I doubt that capitalism historically has been “a pendulum between the private and public sector”. I think there has been a general trend in the direction of an ever-increasing public sector, although this needs to be confirmed by facts and figures. The private sector needs ‘big government’ and uses it in its own interests. But at the same time, the state is also a big burden on the private sector in terms of taxation. Therefore in the last 25 or 30 years, the neoliberals tried to reduce the state sector through cuts and privatisations, but they did not succeed in cutting the size of it substantially (for example in the US there was a huge increase in defence expenditure). What the state saves in social expenditure is partially compensated by an increase of expenditure for security (prisons, police, courts…). It boils down to the traditional Keynesian choice between canons or butter. According to Michel, the experience of creating knowledge, culture, software and design commons, by a combination of voluntary contributions, entrepreneurial coalitions and infrastructure-protecting for-benefit associations, has most tangibly re-introduced the idea of commons, for all to use without discrimination, and where all can contribute “It has drastically reduced the production, distribution, transaction and coordination costs for the immaterial value that is at the core also of all what we produce physically, since that needs to be made, needs to be designed. It has re-introduced communing as a mainstream experience for at least one billion internet users, and has come with proven benefits and robustness that has outcompeted and outcooperated its private rivals. It also of course offers new ways to re-imagine, create and protect physical commons.” ?? This is the essence of the ‘digital commons’ as I understand it. I do believe that these new models are superior to its private rivals, but the question is also that these private rivals use the digital commons more and more into their own private interests, and quit successfully. I think that the development of the ‘digital commons’ could be considered as a higher stage in what Marxism refers to as the socialisation of labour. This point needs to be developed further, but in my opinion, P2P activities through global digital networks can be considered as a higher form of social labour, voluntary and spontaneously ‘organised’ and leading to unplanned but superior ‘business models’. The question here is: will this lead to a sort of ‘new economy’ within the old, just as European capitalism developed under feudal conditions until it was strong enough to ‘overthrow’ it, or will this development be integrated into the present capitalist word order? The combined failure of state fundamentalism in 1989 and so-called ‘free market’ ideology in 2008, coupled with the emergence of the peer to peer practices and the commons, has put this alternative back on the agenda. ?? State fundamentalism is an interesting description of the failed planned economies under ‘communism’ that I don’t necessarily reject. Also, the collapse of the international financial system followed by the Great Recession was a big blow to the neoliberal ideology. Both systems have indeed failed and that opens up new possibilities. Peer production gives us an advance picture of how a commons-oriented society would look like. At its core is a commons and a community contributing to it, either voluntarily, or as paid entrepreneurial employees. It does this through collaborative platforms using open standards. Around the commons emerge enterprises that create added value to operate on the marketplace, but also help the maintenance and the expansion of the commons they rely on. A third partner are the for-benefit associations that maintain the infrastructure of cooperation. Public authorities could play a role if they wanted to support existing commons or the creation of new commons, for the value they bring to society. Let’s accept this model of a future commons-orientated society. It is a novel idea that breaks with the conventional perspectives of socialism and needs further thought. It solves some issues, but raises also a lot of questions. The first one is: how do we get to this commons-orientated society? Will it be a ‘spontaneous’ or gradual evolution within present society? Will capitalist corporations be ‘outcompeted’ by P2P based production? How will the state, as a defender of private ownership dominated by the private sector, react to this development? What about the present state structures? What about the political system? What about the international institutions? Non- or anti-rival commons do not need to worry about the depletion of their stocks, so no trusts are necessary, but they use peer property modalities such as special licenses, which insure the common stock cannot be privatized, and that those that use the commons and improve on it, also improve the commons at the same time. But commons of rival or depletable goods need a trust. ?? To accomplish this, a whole new set of regulations will be needed, nationally and internationally. So the question arises: how will this be accomplished politically? Will it be done through new political parties (such as the pirate party), through existing ones (social democracy, greens, liberals…), or through pressure groups? Then we arrive at Michel’s new model of the triarchy: * The state, with its public property and representative mechanisms of governance (in the best scenario) * The private sector, with the corporation and private property * The commons, with the Trust (or the for-benefit association), and which is the ‘property’ of all its members (not the right word in the context of the commons, since it has a different philosophy of ownership) Here I have some additional questions. What happened with the former civil society? It seems here to be replaced by the commons. Is there a parallel between the commons (which is the property of all its members) with cooperatives? The idea of the cooperative movement was to outcompete capitalist firms, building a new type of organisation where profits are distributed amongst its members or co-proprietors. The emergence of peer-to-peer dynamics and the commons does not of course mean that society will change radically from the outset. I believe some different phases can be contemplated.? It seems to me that the idea, in general, is that a new type of mode of production, based on P2P dynamics, is in the making within present capitalist society and that legal forms are proposed or introduced to protect the (digital) commons against appropriation by the private sector. We see on the one hand new private firms emerging (Google, Facebook, YouTube, Flickr…) taking advantage of the free contribution of millions of volunteers (art creators, software developers…), creating global platforms generating millions of dollars through all sorts of commercial activity, but mainly advertising. On the other hand, traditional private corporations use digital networks and appeal to the input of knowledge from ‘outside’ to develop their products further or launch new ones (Lego, BMW…). And thirdly, there is Wikipedia, Wikileaks and other non-commercial P2P organisations relying on non-paid volunteer work (for example civil journalists…) financed by gifts or charity. I think that in that sense, there is nothing new within the capitalist system, except from the fact that from a technological point of view, social labour has reached a qualitatively higher stage. In a first phase, the commons simply emerges as an added alternative. But as it proves it worth and creates the accompanying social movements that create, defend and expand it, it starts becoming a subsector of society, and starts influencing the whole. Eventually, it reaches a phase where society needs to be reformed (let’s call this the parity level). However, it is not realistic that the state form that was created to protect a given class structure, can also serve for a new structure, and therefore at some point, phase transition and transformation will need to occur. If I understand correctly, the further development of ‘the commons’ will reach a point where a reform or transformation of society and the state structure will be necessary. There seems to be a clear parallel here with Marxist thought, where the working class seems to be replaced by the commons? The million-dollar question is off course: how will this phase transition and transformation occur? What will be the social and political forces behind it? Let us now imagine how a commons-dominated, i.e. after the phase transition, society would look like. * At its core would be a collection of commons, represented by trusts and for-benefit associations, which protect their common assets for the benefit of present and future generations * The commons ‘rents out’ the use of its resources to entrepreneurs. In other words, business still exists, though infinite growth-based capitalism does not. However, it is unlikely that traditional corporations, who do not take into account externalities, will still exist without modification. More likely is that the corporate forms will be influenced by the commons and that profit will be subsumed to other goals, that are congruent with the maintenance of the commons. Also likely, these entities will be owned by the producers, and not by abstract capital (we’re talking after the phase transition here) * The state will still exist, but will have a radically different nature. Much of its functions will have been taken over by commons institutions, but since these institutions care primarily about their commons, and not the general common good, we will still need public authorities that are the guarantor of the system as a whole, and can regulate the various commons, and protect the commoners against possible abuses. So in our scenario, the state does not disappear, but is transformed, though it may greatly diminish in scope, and with its remaining functions thoroughly democratized and based on citizen participation. This model looks like a kind of Utopia, although it is rooted in the existence of the commons and a vision for its further development. I do not necessarily reject this vision. In fact, it seems more valid than the idea of a “socialist market economy”, based upon the socialisation of the means of production through the distribution of shares amongst the population (eventually represented by ‘tokens’ that cannot be sold on the market). In addition, given the fact that the two main currents within the labour movement, ‘communism’ and the planned economy on the one hand, and social democracy and the welfare state on the other -although both formally based on Marxism- are in a blind alley, capitalism is perceived more then ever as the natural order of things: “there is no alternative”. Despite the huge ideological differences, the state plays a crucial role in both models. Despite the fact that the labour movement is ideologically in a blind alley, it continues to fight to defend its interests. However, in the last 25 or 30 years, it was mainly engaged in defensive struggles and did not fight for better conditions and more democracy. Marx had no clear vision of the future socialist society. He did not put forward a blueprint, but relied on the self-organisation of the working class as the new leading force in society. A lot of Marx’s predictions did not materialise, laying the basis for different revisionist theories. That changed with the Russian Revolution and the abolition of market relations in the Soviet Union (and later also in other countries). Until 1989, despite all the crimes of those regimes, they represented at least experiments of a new form of society. Many in the labour movement in the West, including social democrats, hoped for a ‘democratisation’ of these societies. However, since 1989, the main trend was towards a weak form of bourgeois democracy, the restoration of capitalist property relations and the ‘free’ market. Since the failure of the Soviet experiment, I think we need to return to the original idea of “self-organisation” of the working class by Marx (defined as wage earners = a very broad definition), but this does not mean that there is no need for a vision of a future society. Can Michel’s model serve in this way? I think the ecological movement, the P2P movement, and the labour movement have common interests and need to develop a sort of common ‘programme’ or ‘platform’. Traditional Marxism is in my opinion far too much concentrated on materialistic gains, economic growth and the rest of it. I think these ideas developed after Marx’ death, especially after the Russian revolution and the development of the planned economies. So in that sense, I think we can find more inspiration in the writings of Marx himself (especially the ‘young Marx’) and the left critics of the so-called ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’ in Russia after 1917, like Rosa Luxemburg. It is not because they lost that they were completely wrong.” -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: March Issue of OSBR Availablem co-creation in business
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chris McPhee <chris.mcphee(a)osbr.ca> Date: Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:10 AM Subject: March Issue of OSBR Available To: Chris McPhee <chris.mcphee(a)osbr.ca> Dear Readers, The March 2011 issue of the OSBR is now available at osbr.ca. The editorial theme for this issue is Co-Creation and the Guest Editors are Marko Seppä from the University of Jyväskylä and Stoyan Tanev from the University of Southern Denmark. In this issue, we have the following articles: Marko Seppä and Stoyan Tanev summarize recent value co-creation research and identify an emerging focus on business co-creation. Jukka Huhtamäki, Martha G. Russell, Kaisa Still, and Neil Rubens use network analysis to examine linkages between organizations and the emergence of cooperative activities in an innovation system. Kati Järvi and Antti Pellinen examine evolving business models in mobile service production and provision with an emphasis on the shift from one-sided to two-sided markets, including the emergence of application stores as intermediaries in service delivery. Raimo Hyötyläinen, Katri Valkokari, and Petri Kalliokoski present four models of business renewal through co-creation within networks, distinguishing between the exploitation of present knowledge for efficiency and the exploration of new knowledge for innovation. Frederick Ahen and Peter Zettinig argue that if networks are effective mechanisms for criminal organizations to infiltrate into any value chain, then networks should also work for responsible businesses in their quests to counter this phenomenon of value destruction. Xian Chen and Paul Sorenson examine the effect of service quality on business relationships between clients and SaaS service providers and provide an approach and tool for evaluating SaaS applications. Taina Savolainen and Sari Häkkinen present two case studies that illustrate the importance of trustworthiness as a leadership trait and managerial skill. The editorial theme for the upcoming April issue is Communications Enabled Applications. For subsequent issues, we welcome general submissions on the topic of open source business or the growth of early-stage technology companies. Please contact me (chris.mcphee(a)osbr.ca) if you are interested in submitting an article. Kind regards, Chris McPhee Editor, Open Source Business Resource http://www.osbr.ca If you no longer wish to receive email notifications from the OSBR, please send your request by email and I will unsubscribe you. ________________________________________________________________________ Open Source Business Resource http://www.osbr.ca/ojs/index.php/osbr -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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post on Free Knowledge Academy
by Neal Gorenflo 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Malcolm Harris just wrote an engaging overview of The Free Knowledge Academy: Technology That's Free Like Speech, Not Like Beer http://www.shareable.net/blog/technology-thats-free-like-speech-not-like-be… Many of you know about FKA already from Franco on this list, but I wanted to offer this post as content others can remix / reblog to help get the word out about FKA. It's a good beginners introduction to FKA for English speaking audiences. -- Neal Gorenflo | Publisher, http://Shareable.net <http://shareable.net/> | 415.867.0429

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Fwd: New moneyless economic system described
by Michel Bauwens 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tomi Astikainen <tomi.astikainen(a)mindyourelephant.org> Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:53 PM Subject: New economic system To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Hi Michel, Long time no talk. Hope everything is fine and dandy with you and your endeavors of openness? Maybe you have noticed that I launched a new book: www.tomiastikainen.com Today I was writing more extensive stuff for the FAQ about moneyless living and when writing about new (moneyless) economic system I thought of you. Text: *How would you re-design a more sustainable economic system?* Short answer: I would design it with others, *sharing*<http://p2pfoundation.net/Sharing>resources and perspectives in *open collaboration* <http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Open#Introduction>, and leaving room for constant evolution of the system. In fact, the very fact that you are on this site proves that the re-design process has started among the people of the Earth, in a very unique fashion: from the ground up instead of top-down. Professor *Tim Jackson*<http://www.earthscan.co.uk/ProsperityWithoutGrowth/tabid/102098/Default.aspx>says “Sustainability is the art of living well within ecological limits” where “living well” implies both ethical behavior and comfort. Thus, a more just and sustainable system is found in the crossroads of efficiency, environment, equity and ethics. The basic requirements of a sustainable economic system are that it is able to: 1. meet basic human needs of the whole global population, 2. take the carrying capacity of the Earth into account, 3. allow the diversity of life to flourish now and in the future, and 4. ensure both human and societal development The basic components of an economic system are: 1. Need clarification, 2. Resource extraction, 3. Production, 4. Distribution, 5. Use of the produce, and 6. Re-use of resources *Needs* Market equilibrium, i.e. balance between supply and demand, has not been reached in top-down approaches. Capitalism is producer-driven guesswork vulnerable to formation of monopolies and distorted by profit-motive driven creation of artificial needs. On the other hand, the central-planning of socialism and communism cannot answer to rapid changes of people’s real needs and preferences. In a moneyless society the basic needs for survival are quite easy to fulfill because we all need nutritious food, warm clothes, comfortable shelter, clean water, functioning sanitation and all that. The human needs that guide the basic production are somewhat unchanged and predictable. However, there are more advanced needs that derive from individual preferences, interpersonal relationships and from ideas for societal development. An individual might want to create a piece of art that requires equipment, two people in different geographic locations might want to meet each other out of a whim and a research team might realize that a bridge needs to be built to link two cities together. In order to enable all this, people need to have an easy means to express their changing needs so that required products and services can be delivered. We do this already: we order stuff from Amazon, we book trips over internet and we create wikis and documents together with our peers and professional colleagues to plan larger projects. All we need to do is to link the information systems we already have, open them up to public scrutiny and make these massive amounts of data accessible in a common database that can guide production decisions. If it seems that we cannot possibly fulfill everyone’s needs without exceeding the carrying capacity of the Earth (not enough resources to make everything happen at once), we can then assign numerical values for resources, e.g. time and amount needed for a final product. And then we can utilize various mobile and internet technologies to design tools that allow people to “vote” on a daily basis to inform production of their needs, i.e. use direct democracy to guide the production decisions. *Material and energy extraction* The sporadic, short-sighted and predatory resource extraction of today cannot continue much longer. The same goes for fossil-fuel based and highly centralized energy production and distribution. In a moneyless society all energy comes directly or indirectly from the sun (including geothermal, wave, tidal, and wind energy). *Jeremy Rifkin*<http://p2pfoundation.net/InterGrid>talks about the “Inter-grid” – the internet of energy – where all of us are both consumers and producers of energy. It is possible to set up with current day technology, today, if we want it to happen. For the material extraction to be sustainable we need to understand where, how much and what kind of resources we have. This applies both to untapped sources and products that can be re-used. *Manufacturing process* In our current system there is a whole lot of overlap in production: competing organizations create similar products and services with lowest possible cost – often leading to poor quality products – and they all try to sell their stuff to the consumers with whatever the means, creating a lot of artificial needs and desires in the process of doing so. In a sane sustainable system we would produce exactly what is needed, as locally as possible, to as many as possible, with as little waste as possible. The shifting needs “from bombs to food” would take us little by little towards abundance. Automation would no longer be viewed as the evil machines that take people’s jobs but as a means to set people free from the drudgery of manual labor, bearing in mind that nothing would stop you from growing your own carrots or knitting your woolen socks. *Distribution* Nowadays we ship stuff all over the world without much thinking of the consequences. Raw materials are shipped to where it’s cheapest to produce something out of them. Then this produce is shipped to be processed where it’s cheapest to do. The cargo then moves through various assembly points to the wholesaler, to the retail store and finally consumers pick it up and ship it to their homes. They use it, trash it and the junk is shipped to the other side of the world. Rational? No. Cheap? Hell yeah! Distribution in a moneyless society should minimize the distance (i.e. energy use) and maximize the ease and access of use. Most of the food would probably be wisest to deliver to large restaurants or community kitchens in large quantities. Consumer goods such as toiletries could have filling stations where anyone could fill up their soap bottle near where they live. Durable goods, such as furniture, could be ordered directly to your home from the manufacturer. The latest consumer electronics, appliances and tools could be borrowed from a local “library”. If it would seem that transferring some of the products to another side of the world is not sustainable then distribution would also guide production decisions, and alternatives would be found. We might come into conclusions such as using *the common sea-buckthorn*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippophae_rhamnoides>for pepping up people in the Northern hemisphere and leaving the luxury of sipping coffee for those living in areas where it’s viable to produce locally. Please note that hard-core coffee addicts would always be welcome to relocate to South America if that is what they value in life. We would supplement, and over-time probably replace, the current marine, air, train and road cargo services with new more efficient technologies such as *Evacuated Tube Transport* <http://et3.com/ett.asp>. *Use* Currently many people buy stuff to feel happy. People want to own a sleek car to show off their prosperity. This ego-driven material happiness doesn’t last long, however. Little by little people are waking up to feel the void within. To fill that void they need love and better relationships, education, culture and arts, time for reflection and experiences in nature. And yes, most people on this planet need to eat. More important than ownership is access to goods and services that fulfill our real needs. In a moneyless society people would use the products and services that they need to live a good life. You’d be surprised how this might actually be much less – not more – than what an average person owns nowadays. And through sharing durable goods many more people could have access to what they need. The same goes for services: it’s much wiser to use highly effective and comfortable *public transportation*<http://www.zeitnews.org/transportation/>that always takes you to your destination, rather than worry about fixing and maintaining your car that sits on the parking lot for 95% of the time. Hoarding junk just doesn’t make sense, especially if everything is *freely available* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_good>. *Re-use* Today we live in *the culture of disposability*<http://www.kerismith.com/blog/the-culture-of-disposability-part-2/>and most of the stuff we use ends up in landfills. Even fast moving consumer goods such as oil and jelly is packed in plastic or glass containers that are not going to decompose any time soon. As for the durable goods, just by sharing efficiently what we already have we could for instance have free clothes for the next 10 years. Re-use has to be designed into the whole process so that each product has gone through a proper *cradle-to-crave assessment*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_cycle_assessment>. If we take this seriously we can soon imitate nature where everything that is disposed of becomes quickly used again in another part of the process we call life.

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