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how copyright free creates a lot more jobs than copyright
by Michel Bauwens 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Dear Tom, this is really important for us, could you report on that, see http://falkvinge.net/2011/02/25/kill-copyright-create-jobs/ thanks, Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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(no subject)
by Dr.Ghassan 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Dear Officials and Colleagues The Global Civil Society I am writing on behalf of the Centre for Applied Research in Education ( www.care-palestine.com ) . We have become aware of your efforts and feel there could be great benefit from a collaboration between us. CARE has been working with local communities in the Occupied Palestinian Territory since 1989. We believe in reducing violence, achieving stability and building sustainable peace though educational means, and are committed to building relationships and partnerships with appropriate leaders and organisations. We strive towards democratising Palestinian education through participatory approach, minimising effects of violence and adopting dialogue as a way of life. We have recognised an imperative need for training workshops for children, university students, teachers and head-teachers, to enhance knowledge and understanding in order to combat the negative effects of on-going conflict through non-violent conflict resolution, psychological treatment and educational programs. We place great emphasis on increasing our participant’s role within their communities. CARE takes care to promote public awareness, encourage participation in political and community leadership and to build networks amongst communities. We would like to suggest that You and the Global Civil Society to become involved in our projects. There is scope for close cooperation on possible ventures and exciting new programs. The situation in the OPT requires urgent attention and we hope that, with your help , we can look to expand our services and develop our programs in order to offer the most effective services and to reach those most in need. We look forward to hearing from you and remains , Yours in peace , Dr.Ghassan Abdallah Director of CARE

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important study on collective intelligence
by Michel Bauwens 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

would be really great to have some expert comments on this study for the p2p blog, see http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/verdoux20110119 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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voxeu.org - interesting venue for publishing ( economic ) papers ?
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

http://www.voxeu.org/ http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3 * * *VoxEU.org is a policy portal set up by the Centre for Economic Policy Research ( http://www.CEPR.org ) in conjunction with a consortium of national sites. **Vox aims to promote research-based policy analysis and commentary by leading scholars. The intended audience is economists in governments, international organisations, academia and the private sector as well as journalists specializing in economics, finance and business. * * * *Assistance for the Centre's work on Vox has been provided by the European Union, through its programme of support for bodies active at the European level in the field of active European citizenship.* * * *Vox encourages professional economists to submit columns which should be:* *original work not published or posted elsewhere;* *500-1500 words in length;* *written at an analytical level that is higher than a typical newspaper column but very much more accessible than a journal article;* *policy relevant and research-based.*

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Re: [P2P-F] 12 things you need to know about protests in Wisconsin, USA + Unions and P2P alternatives
by richard adler 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Great information here, Richard, thank you for sharing it. RCA On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Richard Schulte < richard(a)flywheelcollective.com> wrote: > Thanks Sam for bringing this up! > > Flywheel had the pleasure of meeting with the Ohio Employee Ownership > Center several days ago. We brought up this specific concept to Roy > Messing, their Cooperative Development Program director, and he brought > up a few possible constraints, but definitely an interest in the > possibilities. > > Apparently it varies widely state by state, but laws around the use of > pension funds, 401(k) programs, health funds, and other major benefit > funds which are often held in common by workers can be somewhat > restrictive towards investment. However, he expressed that he would be > further exploring the possibilities and spreading the idea. The > additional option is that some of the companies who employ these workers > may also be interested in contributing towards these investments, and > the imagination widens when other community investment groups are > involved. > > After reflecting on that option, it seems that peer-based manufacturing > could present a very interesting opportunity for many of the extant > manufacturers to be able to assist in the 'fill-in' of their supply > chains by lending towards the creation of extensive networks of small, > agile, and lean micromanufacturing shops employing p2p methods. > > Investment bodies > ----- > > Collective Assets > > - Pension Funds - these are often restricted to only 8-15% out at any > given time, especially as older generations begin to collect retirement. > However, this could change with legislation that may or may not already > be out there. > - Health benefits plans > - 401(k) Plans - many unions found their pension funds tapped out by > shoddy investment practices and switched to these plans. The issue > being that they have less control as these are often managed by more > conglomerated entities. > - Collective investment stocks such as ESOP plans and worker equity > > Community Assets > > - Credit Unions - Federal CUs are restricted to about 25% of their > assets being allocated towards business loans, however legislation is > being considered that would bump this up to 50%. Of course its on the > backburner, but with greater pressure that could change. > - Building & Loan Funds - These are co-op institutions as well that can > invest in building projects, commercial building loans, and other types > of business loans. > - Community Banks - Smallscale community banks can also put a lot of > weight behind things, and are often not as restricted as credit unions. > - Distributed Community Lending - so say you are starting a local worker > co-op, and folks all over town are excited about it. Give them the > chance to invest directly in the business, or possibly a many-to-many > RLF in your community! > > FAQ > > > Question: Why focus on such small and localized entities? Don't they > have less capital? > > Answer: There is greater reliability, especially in distressed times, as > these types of institutions are less likely to have risky investment > portfolios. They have very significant levels of capital to work with > as adoption of their services grow because of greater consumer > confidence and local identity. > > A good example of collective benefits in action was during the Hugo Boss > debacle. Remember - Hugo Boss's shareholders were getting antsy and > trying to close down a Cleveland facility to move it to Turkey. Despite > lots of great on the ground organizing, the battle was almost lost until > a very unexpected development occurred - just before the shareholders > made the decision to liquidate the assets of the Cleveland operation, > the company in Columbus that managed the pension funds, retirement > plans, and collective benefits of the Hugo Boss workers, who happened to > own 20% of the shares of the company, threatened divestment if the > operation moved overseas. The tables were turned, and the collectively > held benefits of the workers actually wielded enough weight to stop a > major company in its tracks. > > > Question: Why not target larger, more conglomerated financial entities, > venture capital funds, etc.? > > Answer: Consider their priorities- most financial entities that have > stake in wallstreet and global commerce have competitive investments > elsewhere to the united states, especially in manufacturing. They > demand faster and higher returns, and often are less likely to foster > projects that do not fit their vision. Having these kinds of investors > often leads to uncertainty and poor management of projects, as > shareholders will often not share the interests of the workers. Also, > with experience from major venture capital programs in our area such as > NorTech and JumpStart (pres. Obama just spoke with these folks), we are > WELL aware of how antsy these folks get just around open source software > - and they are IP obsessed. Presenting them with Open Hardware Licenses > would probably drive them up the wall. > > > Strategic Considerations > - - - - > > What Unions often provide in the greatest is a huge base of members, and > often a very progressive vision (take the United Steel Workers, for > example). They are motivated to get their workers on the job > (especially in manufacturing), and know how to mobilize resources around > such things as training, certifications, and institutional support. > They can attract state and federal funding for recruitment and training > programs, and help with compliance. Unions can also give a lot of > credence and credibility to any kind of campaign or concept, across many > spheres of social and political influence. > > Gap Financing - Union benefit plans and worker equity could act as a gap > financing measure, or a vote of confidence, to attract additional > funding from community financial institutions. For example, they could > cover the down payment for a building and initial equipment costs of a > new operation. This would boost confidence from, say, some local credit > unions or social investors, and they would provide investment or loans > towards further building costs, initial feedstocks and payroll. > > Revolving Loan Funds - We already have a RLF in Ohio that acts as a gap > financing program for ESOPs, Worker Co-ops and the like. You can > receive a loan of up to $15,000 from them, however they have community > partners who will match these loans up to a total of $350,000. It's > called the Commonwealth Revolving Loan Fund, and it is actually > administered by Roy Messing (who I mention above). > > RLFs are a great strategic move because they make the messiness of many > to many investment a more streamlined process. All of the financial > bodies mentioned above can invest in these funds, and with steady > returns this can lower their risk (something very important these days > for collective benefits). There is not a great amount of complexity > involved either - invest and get returns. The institutions and social > investors who are investing in these RLFs could also give guidance to > some of the folks who are seeking investment (which can be very > helpful), and possibly give additional financial support where RLFs are > acting as a gap financing measure. > > Business Incubators - The business incubator model is huge. It's what > gets politicians, unions, investors and whatnot all excited. There are > some pretty good models here - pooling costs for buildings, utility > costs, and shared financial, legal, and other helpful services. These > often receive a lot of government funding, which is often pretty > hands-off. A p2p manufacturing incubator, in a more forward thinking > area, would not be a difficult effort (should i say the Bay Area?). Then > again, it may not even be impossible in the midwest, if the right > factors come together. > > Also, combined with the concept of Business Incubators could be > EcoIndustrial Parks. Imagine the incubators above growing into > prototyping and fab shops. You would have offices where people design, > engineer, unit test, etc. They would send g-code and other designs down > to the shop floor where parts that could be printed would be printed, in > addition to those parts that could be torch cut, machined, pressed, > injection molded, etc. These prototypes could even be a side effort to > the actual production process, which could be happening in the same > shared facility! The EcoIndustrial aspect would be that the industrial > facilities would be combined - possibly through some off-grid > co-generation scheme, providing heat and electricity. The fabbed goods > would be produced using green practices, and possibly have the same > implications (OEM parts for electric vehicles, solar arrays, turbines, > biogas operatons; equipment for agroecological operations - anything > from soil blockers to remote climate sensing equipment.) Green P2P > would attract A LOT of attention, funding and subsidies. There are also > very real supply chains that such operations would easily nudge into, > even out here in the midwest. Especially when there are TONS of empty > industrial parks all throughout the rural midwest (and urban) that have > all the infrastructure in place, state and federal funding ready and > waiting to subdisize any use of them, and entire communities of folks > around them who would be glad to get to work! > > > Conclusion > ----- > > So, really, there are a lot of opportunities for unions to act as an > arbiter and confidence builder in p2p manufacturing. They have many of > the resources that are needed - and unlike venture capitalists - are not > going to consider manufacturing in "knowledge economy" nations to be > abhorrent or competitive with their investments. On the other side of > the coin, Unions are also beginning to show a lot of international > solidarity, so there would be less resistance than one might anticipate > to, say, international p2p supply chains if they were sustainable and > fostered the growth of manufacturing in NA and Europe. > > Most importantly, they offer the advantage of oversight and collective > bargaining in more tough situations. As the p2p manufacturing economy > unfolds, one must pay close attention to the treatment of workers, to > safety and to the fairness of pay and benefits. Definately the worker- > co-op model affords for some measure of workplace democracy, but when > there is no agency outside your own shop you can get stuck. This is why > our worker co-op is joining the IWW - not to mention the excitement of > being a part of an international movement of worker solidarity. > > P.S. - Michel - I can turn this into a p2p blog post here soon if you > like, with some polishing :) > > -- > Richard Schulte > > Flywheel Tech Collective > > > > > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 15:28 +0700, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > Dear Sam, > > > > copying two more union-p2p friends on this dialogue, > > > > Michel > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > Thanks Mark, > > > > This a long-term perspective/investment. Based on an ideas > > first > > articulated to me by Richard Schulte of Flywheel Tech > > Collective, who > > is copied on this email, the idea is to work with Unions to > > start > > building worker-owned cooperatives of various types, > > especially based > > around production and design of open source > > technologies/software. > > Mark, I copied you because I know that you've been in dialogue > > with > > Unions right here in Michigan for years. I wondered if you > > might know > > of some Union folks here in Michigan that might be candidates > > for this > > type of thing? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Mark Dilley > > <markwdilley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sam - thank you for sending this out what seems so many > > days ago - I have been following this pretty keenly and am > > curious about the title of your email "+ Unions and P2P > > alternatives" > > > > > > open ears from anyone here. > > > > > > Best, Mark > > > > > > > > > On 19Feb2011, at 5:19 PM, Samuel Rose wrote: > > > > > >> "What's happening in Wisconsin is not complicated. At the > > beginning of > > >> this year, the state was on course to end 2011 with a > > budget surplus > > >> of $120 million. As Ezra Klein explained, newly elected GOP > > Governor > > >> Scott Walker then " signed two business tax breaks and a > > conservative > > >> health-care policy experiment that lowers overall tax > > revenues (among > > >> other things). The new legislation was not offset, and it > > turned a > > >> surplus into a deficit." > > >> > > >> Walker then used the deficit he'd created as the > > justification for > > >> assaulting his state's public employees. He used a law > > cooked up by a > > >> right-wing advocacy group called the American Legislative > > Exchange > > >> Council (ALEC). ALEC likes to fly beneath the radar, but I > > described > > >> the organization in a 2005 article as "the connective > > tissue that > > >> links state legislators with right-wing think tanks, > > leading anti-tax > > >> activists and corporate money." Similar laws are on the > > table in Ohio > > >> and Indiana. > > >> > > >> Walker's bill would strip public employees of the right to > > bargain > > >> collectively for anything but higher pay (and would cap the > > amount of > > >> wage hikes they might end up gaining in negotiations). His > > intentions > > >> are clear -- before assuming office, Walker threatened to > > decertify > > >> the state's employees' unions (until he discovered that the > > governor > > >> doesn't have that power)." > > >> > > >> > > > http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/479560/12_things_you_need_to_k… > > >> _______ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Aso worth reading: > > >> > > >> > > > http://prop-press.typepad.com/blog/2011/02/report-from-day-five-first-chanc… > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > > >> > > >> I think the time is here to start talking with people about > > >> > > > http://p2pfoundation.net/The_Political_Principles_of_Peer-to-Peer_Advocacy > > >> here, in the Industrial Midwest (which includes WI) > > >> > > >> One simple way to route around party politics is to give > > people a > > >> direct p2p way to actively reflect existing poltics as we > > saw in > > >> iceland with http://skuggathing.is/portal based on > > >> https://github.com/rbjarnason/open-active-democracy > > >> > > >> Another parallel approach is to start applying collective > > decision > > >> making and pooling of resources directly to problems people > > are > > >> addressing. In addition, creating cooperatives, supporting > > alternative > > >> currencies when appropriate. > > >> > > >> Unions in all of these states have resources, including > > pension funds, > > >> that they could invest directly in worker-owned cooperative > > companies, > > >> as has been discussed by Richard Schulte of > > flywheeltechcollective in > > >> the past. Some of them have expressed interest in doing > > this. These > > >> kinds of changes for entities like unions are long term > > changes and > > >> investments, and will take time. However, I think every > > year that goes > > >> by makes more and more on the left receptive to p2p > > alternatives. > > >> > > >> If people are interested in working on P2P political > > advocacy and > > >> approaches in 2011-2012, let's talk here and continue to > > build towards > > >> thing people can really use in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, > > Michigan, > > >> Eastern Europe, South America, etc > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> -- > > >> Sam Rose > > >> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation > > >> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 > > >> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 > > >> skype: samuelrose > > >> email: samuel.rose(a)gmail.com > > >> http://forwardfound.org > > >> http://futureforwardinstitute.org > > >> http://hollymeadcapital.com > > >> http://p2pfoundation.net > > >> http://socialmediaclassroom.com > > >> > > >> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with > > human > > >> ambition." - Carl Sagan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Sam Rose > > Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation > > Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 > > Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 > > skype: samuelrose > > email: samuel.rose(a)gmail.com > > http://forwardfound.org > > http://futureforwardinstitute.org > > http://hollymeadcapital.com > > http://p2pfoundation.net > > http://socialmediaclassroom.com > > > > "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with > > human > > ambition." - Carl Sagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > P2P Foundation - Mailing list > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net > > > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > > > > > > > -- > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [P2P-F] 12 things you need to know about protests in Wisconsin, USA + Unions and P2P alternatives
by Paul B. Hartzog 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Richard Schulte <richard(a)flywheelcollective.com> wrote: > Thanks Sam for bringing this up! > snip.... > After reflecting on that option, it seems that peer-based manufacturing > could present a very interesting opportunity for many of the extant > manufacturers to be able to assist in the 'fill-in' of their supply > chains by lending towards the creation of extensive networks of small, > agile, and lean micromanufacturing shops employing p2p methods. > Richard, For what it's worth there are manufacturers who have used networks of outside aid to fill gaps in their workflows. I think one of them was http://www.100kgarages.com/ although you may already know about it. :-) Delighted to read all of your informative information! -p -------------------------------------------------------- The Forward Foundation http://www.ForwardFound.org paul.b.hartzog(a)forwardfound.org -------------------------------------------------------- http://www.PaulBHartzog.org PaulBHartzog(a)PaulBHartzog.org -------------------------------------------------------- http://www.panarchy.com PaulBHartzog(a)panarchy.com -------------------------------------------------------- University of Michigan PHartzog(a)umich.edu -------------------------------------------------------- The Universe is made up of stories, not atoms. --Muriel Rukeyser Perceive differently, then you will act differently. --Paul B. Hartzog --------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: [fcf_discussion] Re: Fwd: <nettime> Decentralizing the Internet So Big Brother Can’t Find You
by Michel Bauwens 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Dear Sepp, see http://p2pfoundation.net/Osiris given the remark here below, perhaps worth presenting to our audience? Michel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paolo Brini <paolo.brini(a)iridiumpg.com> Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM Subject: [fcf_discussion] Re: Fwd: <nettime> Decentralizing the Internet So Big Brother Can’t Find You To: fcforum_discussion(a)list.fcforum.net Yes, various groups around the world use Osiris to keep indestructible "web sites" without servers and without the www. I have been personally involved in spreading Osiris in various communities. It is a project which was thought 5 years ago. The software is a CMS simple to use, allows to create forum, blogs and other portals, and is used with success since years ago by bittorrent communities and activists in hostile environments. A portal created with Osiris is almost indestructible, since it is duplicated in its entirety on all nodes which share, in a p2p protocol, that portal. After a long debate, the authors have decided that Osiris will be soon released under GPL (it is closed source right now and this is interpreted as a major fault). Today Osiris has been cited by the 2nd most read italian newspaper (1st online) and this could help its diffusion. People in Osiris are also in the NeuMon (the most powerful Net Neutrality monitor I have ever seen - Herdict is a tiny toy in comparison) project and are also the people who invented a working system to make domain names seizures by USA ICE/ICANN/VeriSign/Afilias ineffective (currently the system is up and running with success on airvpn). Ciao, Paolo Il 23/02/2011 14:19, mazzetta ha scritto: > Il 23/02/2011 13:38, Dmytri Kleiner ha scritto: >> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:13:09 +0000, Smári McCarthy<smari(a)immi.is> >> wrote: >> >>> I think what's missing here is the point that freedom requires >>> infrastructure. [A point I know Dmytri is well aware of, which makes >>> this conversation confuse me...] > > what about Osiris? > > > http://osiris.kodeware.net/ > http://osiris.kodeware.net/index.php?lang=en > It seems a pretty interesting step towards decentralization ----- +info http://list.fcforum.net/wws/info/fcforum_discussion ---- -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Anonymous writing mesh networking guide
by Neal Gorenflo 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Anonymous is writing mesh networking guide: http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=554 This turned up in Shareable's Week in Sharing links roundup: http://shareable.net/blog/this-week-in-sharing-19 -- Neal Gorenflo | Publisher, http://Shareable.net <http://shareable.net/> | 415.867.0429 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:01 AM, < p2p-foundation-request(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: > Send P2P-Foundation mailing list submissions to > p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > p2p-foundation-request(a)lists.ourproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > p2p-foundation-owner(a)lists.ourproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of P2P-Foundation digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: [fcf_discussion] Re: Fwd: <nettime> Decentralizing the > Internet So Big Brother Can?t Find You (Michel Bauwens) > 2. bradley manning support (Michel Bauwens) > 3. Fwd: attention economy and linking from academic sites... > Fwd: [goodrelations] Fwd: Google Penalizes Overstock for Search > Tactics - WSJ.com (Michel Bauwens) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:06:28 +0700 > From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [P2P-F] Fwd: [fcf_discussion] Re: Fwd: <nettime> > Decentralizing the Internet So Big Brother Can?t Find You > To: p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> > Cc: Sepp Hasslberger <sepp(a)lastrega.com> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTi=fQOzeU1jwRJ=0zrpEGO0SUS0P=8oW-Ez2RdKt(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Dear Sepp, > > see http://p2pfoundation.net/Osiris > > given the remark here below, perhaps worth presenting to our audience? > > Michel > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paolo Brini <paolo.brini(a)iridiumpg.com> > Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM > Subject: [fcf_discussion] Re: Fwd: <nettime> Decentralizing the Internet So > Big Brother Can?t Find You > To: fcforum_discussion(a)list.fcforum.net > > > Yes, various groups around the world use Osiris to keep indestructible > "web sites" without servers and without the www. > > I have been personally involved in spreading Osiris in various > communities. It is a project which was thought 5 years ago. The software > is a CMS simple to use, allows to create forum, blogs and other portals, > and is used with success since years ago by bittorrent communities and > activists in hostile environments. A portal created with Osiris is > almost indestructible, since it is duplicated in its entirety on all > nodes which share, in a p2p protocol, that portal. > > After a long debate, the authors have decided that Osiris will be soon > released under GPL (it is closed source right now and this is > interpreted as a major fault). > > Today Osiris has been cited by the 2nd most read italian newspaper (1st > online) and this could help its diffusion. People in Osiris are also in > the NeuMon (the most powerful Net Neutrality monitor I have ever seen - > Herdict is a tiny toy in comparison) project and are also the people who > invented a working system to make domain names seizures by USA > ICE/ICANN/VeriSign/Afilias ineffective (currently the system is up and > running with success on airvpn). > > Ciao, > Paolo > > Il 23/02/2011 14:19, mazzetta ha scritto: > > Il 23/02/2011 13:38, Dmytri Kleiner ha scritto: > >> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:13:09 +0000, Sm?ri McCarthy<smari(a)immi.is> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I think what's missing here is the point that freedom requires > >>> infrastructure. [A point I know Dmytri is well aware of, which makes > >>> this conversation confuse me...] > > > > what about Osiris? > > > > > > http://osiris.kodeware.net/ > > http://osiris.kodeware.net/index.php?lang=en > > It seems a pretty interesting step towards decentralization > > > ----- > +info http://list.fcforum.net/wws/info/fcforum_discussion > ---- > > > > > -- > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >

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Fwd: attention economy and linking from academic sites... Fwd: [goodrelations] Fwd: Google Penalizes Overstock for Search Tactics - WSJ.com
by Michel Bauwens 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

thanks Dante! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:03 PM Subject: attention economy and linking from academic sites... Fwd: [goodrelations] Fwd: Google Penalizes Overstock for Search Tactics - WSJ.com To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> "Google <http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djn&symbol=GOOG> Inc. is penalizing Overstock.com<http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djn&symbol=OSTK> Inc. in its search results after the retailer ran afoul of Google policies that prohibit companies from artificially boosting their ranking in the Internet giant's search engine." "Internet search experts say that sites associated with educational institutions, which come with ".edu" in their Web addresses, are often considered by Google's search algorithm to be more authoritative than commercial sites. Experts say educational sites rarely link to commercial sites, so a shopping site can surge in Google rankings if an .edu page links to it. "Google has made clear they believe these links should not factor into their search algorithm," said Patrick Byrne, Overstock's chief executive, in a statement. "We understand Google's position and have made the appropriate changes to remain within Google's guidelines." Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704520504576162753779521700.h… ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barbara H Starr <bstarr(a)ontologica.us> Date: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:36 AM Subject: [goodrelations] Fwd: Google Penalizes Overstock for Search Tactics - WSJ.com To: goodrelations <goodrelations(a)ebusiness-unibw.org>, lotico-list(a)googlegroups.com Hi All, I would love for you all to read the article below! It is my belief, that colleges and universities have been linked back to Overstock.com as a result of their adoption of goodrelations and rdfa for e-commerce! To hear that tOVerstsock have been penalized for this (backlinks from goodrelations adoption in effect) as a result of unethical back linking is amazing to me! (If you read the article below, it specifically cites back linking from .edu sites as a judgement for downgrading the SEO ranking of the site) I do not see any black hat tactics here! Merely academic references! Would love to hear any thoughts on the matter Here is the link to the article! And FYI, this has serious bottom line impact! The original article and citation against JC Penny was in the NY times. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704520504576162753779521700.h… looking forward to your feedback regards Barbara Starr _______________________________________________ goodrelations mailing list goodrelations(a)ebusiness-unibw.org http://ebusiness-unibw.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goodrelations -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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bradley manning support
by Michel Bauwens 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Dear Chris, have a look at this: http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/manning_paypal?source=fb could you republish the appeal on our blog as well, I think this deserves our support, Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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