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Fwd: [Open App Ecosystem] Project Manager & Senior Dev, in Blockchain + Commons Research Project @Madrid
by Michel Bauwens 10 Aug '18

10 Aug '18

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: David Llop (Loomio) <notifications(a)loomio.org> Date: Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:48 PM Subject: [Open App Ecosystem] Project Manager & Senior Dev, in Blockchain + Commons Research Project @Madrid To: <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> [image: David Llop] *David Llop* invited you to join: Project Manager & Senior Dev, in Blockchain + Commons Research Project @Madrid <https://www.loomio.org/invitations/TJsXjkx3B7zmHhmq2P91paMD?utm_campaign=di…> We want to build a new type of *Collaborative Economy* organizations, which are *decentralized*, *democratic* and *economically sustainable*. Would you like to join us? P2P Models <https://p2pmodels.eu?utm_campaign=discussion_announced&utm_medium=email&utm…>, a 5-year 1.5M€ research project, *is hiring*: - a Project/Communication Manager - a Senior Blockchain Developer They will join an interdisciplinary team in Madrid, doing research & building tools with social impact https://p2pmodels.eu/jobs/ <https://p2pmodels.eu/jobs/?utm_campaign=discussion_announced&utm_medium=ema…> Tweet thread: https://twitter.com/samerP2P/status/1017822934222692352 <https://twitter.com/samerP2P/status/1017822934222692352?utm_campaign=discus…> Working at P2P Models is an opportunity to collaborate with people passionate to create social impact, in an environment which mixes academics, hackers, designers and activists. We do research on commons-oriented communities, and build blockchain-driven frameworks and tools to support their sustainability. More info: - Funded by the largest EU individual research grant, the ERC, and the first to build blockchain infrastructure - With Principal Investigator and advisors from Berkman Klein Center at Harvard University, such as Yochai Benkler or Primavera De Filippi - Dynamic, young, interdisciplinary team with a horizontal and inclusive culture - Combines social research + software tool building, focusing on social impact - Attractive work conditions and perks, with multiple benefits Feel free to write any question/doubt to p2pmodels(a)ucm.es including in the subject “Open position”. The positions are meant to start in Fall, so applicants are encouraged to submit asap. — Reply to this email directly or view it on Loomio <https://www.loomio.org/invitations/TJsXjkx3B7zmHhmq2P91paMD?utm_campaign=di…>. Change your email preferences <https://www.loomio.org/email_preferences?unsubscribe_token=UGJR4F8ir8sdmUk2…>. [image: Logo] -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] eco-systemic supply chains are on their way
by Michel Bauwens 10 Aug '18

10 Aug '18

thanks a lot David, by the way, we would really appreciate comments and suggestions to our first draft of the research report let me know in case of interest, Michel On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 7:28 PM David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt(a)icloud.com> wrote: > Because it responds to this thread too, I’ll mostly just repeat what I > just replied in the other thread, now for the broader audience here: > > The influence of each TIMN form in a society's mix will of course vary > over time. The four forms won't necessarily be “equal in influence” as you > put it, at least not all across a society, nor to the public eye. But they > may still be roughly equal in importance analytically, diagnostically. > Maybe it’s an idealized implication of TIMN that it would be good if the > bright sides of its forms were equally influential, or at least equally > taken into account diagnostically, including in policymaking. Maybe that’s > an idea I should develop more (as I once meant to). For example, improving > the condition of the “tribal” form in America these days has bee sorely > neglected to the detriment of our society/system as a whole — lots of > broken families, broken communities, etc. (e.g., Robert Putnam’s book > Bowling Alone). > > I suppose we could blame domination by capitalism (an expression of TIMN’s > market form) for this devaluation and distortion at the tribal level. But > it hasn’t always been so much so (e.g., the 50s in America for many > families). If emphasizing dominance / precedence by the latest form were > the best theoretical approach, TIMN can be adapted to suit that. After all, > I’ve deduced from TIMN that monoform (tribe-based) systems get superseded > by biform (tribes + institutions) systems, then these by triform (+markets) > systems, and that these will next be superseded by quadraform (+networks) > systems. A potential domination model is embedded in there. But for now I’m > supposing that a comprehensive multi-form perspective (approach to > analysis) will prove more correct, and do so for analyzing the past as well > as likely future. > > Hey, this has been informative and instructive, but I’m kinda done here > for now. Yet I’ll certainly read any further comments you or others have. > Onward. > > P.S.: As you may recall, each of the TIMN phases can be associated with > different religious phrases. I’ve barely sketched this in spots. But the > result is pretty similar to yours below using Fiske’s relational modalities. > > > === > > > On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > perhaps you read subsumed and domination differently than I do, it > absolutely does not mean the disappearance of other forms and/or any > absolutism (funnily, absolutism was the result of the equilibrium between > declining feudal forms and emerging market forms, which is what gave kings > such an absolute power) > > > > subsumbtion means, geared towards the chaotic attractor > > > > let's take spirituality > > > > under authority ranking / state distribution, organized religion takes > the form of communal brotherhood (christian, buddhist, taoist monasteries), > but the original egaliterianism is subsumed under feudal and ranked power > relationships; under merchant capitalism, capitalism takes the form of > democratic Reformed Churchers, under neoliberal regimes, as for-pay market > experiences ('instant enlightenment in one weekend') > > > > second, we should make a difference between what we commend and what > actually is the case, whether we wish for such subsumption or not, it has > been historically the case for as long as humanity existed, so you would > have to make a extraordinary case for such a extraordinary expectation and > hypothesis > > > > Michel > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 6:26 PM David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt(a)icloud.com> > wrote: > > > > I gather we are having some analytical differences, but also some > interpretation differences — and in many spots I’m not sure which are which > from the writing. > > > > I see points I quite agree with: > > > > Given the way I understand TIMN, its four cardinal forms and their > respective sectors do indeed need to interact with each other — so I agree > that ”the commons need to interact with the market”. TIMN also agrees that > an older sector/form will be modified by the rise of a new form, in order > to work best with it — so of course a reformed market would better “work > for the commons”. I have never thought that any sector can “escape > relations with the market” or any other sector. I also agree that "for a > commons sector to thrive as such, major societal reforms would be > necessary” — but TIMN may imply different reforms from what you have in > mind. > > > > Meanwhile, I also see some serious differences (if I read you > correctly): > > > > You say that the commons sector will be "geared towards the market” and > make it "more competitive than market forms without the commons”. To a > degree, yes. But the way I read this and related materials, you think that > the key function of the commons will be to determine the new economy. But > constraining the commons' function to that would violate my understanding > of TIMN. Where’s the unique purposeful activity of the commons in all this? > You all keep going back to the economy, the market, the nature of > capitalism. But TIMN implies that the network-based sector will be as > different from the market-based sector as the latter is from the state- and > tribe/family-based sectors. The core purposes, values, and concepts that > accompany the tribal, institutional, and market forms are all quite > different from each other; if TIMN is correct, the same will apply to the > network form and its sector. > > > > This brings us around to what is currently our biggest difference: TIMN > does not argue for believing in subsumption or domination by any one form > over others. It often happens, but I can’t find that it’s a good outcome. > Such subsumption or domination certainly doesn’t occur when a new form > first arises. Later, in its mature phases, it should grow strong enough to > hold its own amid the other forms and their sectors. In late maturity, it > may try to subsume / dominate over all of society, as absolutism did ages > ago, and capitalism seems to be doing today. But that results in imbalances > and distortions, with the dark sides of a form running rampant over the > bright. Something similar applies when an older form, say the tribal form, > holds dominant sway. In case after case, that has led to corrupt clannish > regimes and societies, where state institutions cannot professionalize and > a fair crony-less market economy cannot take hold. So, it seems way too > early to talk about a new/next society dominated by the nascent network > form and commons sector. Its ideals and values may look preferable today, > but so did the ideals of the older forms once upon a time. I’m all in favor > of pro-commons ideals and values spreading, but TIMN also implies retaining > the positive values and ideals from the older forms. > > > > Michel, I don’t understand why you tell me that "you never talk about > commos sectors in your work but about networks” — for I constantly refer to > a commons sector as a likely result of the rise of the new network form. > And you then state that “hence for you, what is important, is that the > corporate market form is subsumed to the network form” — but that strikes > me as close to your view, and far, very far, from my own. I repeat, TIMN as > I understand it does not commend such subsumption and domination by any > single form — that usually means imbalance and distortion, as discussed > above. Maybe I misread your phrasing here? > > > > Maybe you try to clarify your view when you next observe that "in > blockchain economies all market players are subsumed to the new network > form, which is a hybrid of markets and commons, but they are not completely > subsumed to the commons sector as such”. But that still means a lot of > subsuming is going on. It also makes it seem as though the market has been > taken over by the network form via a hybrid. > > > > Not so, according to TIMN. All earlier forms — the tribal, > institutional, and market forms — will be modified by the rise of the > network form. That is consistent with TIMN’s general system dynamics. > Family, bureaucratic, and market structures are indeed already being > altered by network dynamics. But none of them are being subsumed, and they > all will/should (according to TIMN) retain their distinctive essences if > matters proceed well. In a quadriform society, the market and commons > sectors will indeed interact, but their interaction and interconnection > will not be the primary purpose and activity of either. Moreover, the +N > sector will be as different from the +M sector as the latter is from the +I > and the T sectors. > > > > Anyway, quite an interesting instructive exchange with you and James. I > barely found time to write all this. I hope you have time to read it. Are > we making progress? I’m gathering that our notions of the commons sector > are more different than I’d thought. Onward. > > > > > > === > > > > > On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:28 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > hi David, > > > > > > I may see this a bit differently than yourself, > > > > > > i.e. the market itself can have extractive and/or generative forms, > and the commons need to interact with the market and the commons, > > > > > > in order for the market to work for the commons, it needs to be a > generative market, i.e. a non-capitalist or post-capitalist market form or > at least a suitable adapted capitalist market form that is kept at arms > length > > > > > > a commons sector can use 'communist principles' internally, as it does > in open source, everybody can contribute and use, or it can use 'socialist > principles' internally (reciprocal relationships and allocations); but > externally, in this society, it cannot escape relations with the market, > > > > > > now in the blockchain space, the commons are geared towards the > market, in ways that seem acceptable to most actors in these sectors, as > they do for most of open source spaces; but for us, that is not sufficient, > since these arrangements still generate major exclusions (higher gini > coefficients than normal market relationships) and ecological damages > (relatively higher than external); this being said, blockchain economics > are tilted far more in favour of labour, however, at the price of > exploiting 'external labor' > > > > > > so we favour different arrangement, a la Enspiral, in which the market > and capital, sustains and grows the commoners and their resources > > > > > > but you never talk about commos sectors in your work but about networks > > > > > > hence for you, what is important, is that the corporate market form is > subsumed to the network form, i.e. there are much less possibilities for > vertically integrated oligopolies; in blockchain economies all market > players are subsumed to the new network form, which is a hybrid of markets > and commons, but they are not completely subsumed to the commons sector as > such > > > > > > nevertheless, what is already shows is that a network form , allied > with a strong commons element, is for market forces, already more > competitive than market forms without the commons, that surely, must be > significant enough for your TIMN framework, > > > > > > open source was the first wave of this, blockchain is the second, and > the platform economy is also a form of this > > > > > > at a more marginal local level, urban commons are also playing a role > in this transformation > > > > > > but for a commons sector to thrive as such, major societal reforms > would be necessary, i.e. a shift away from extractive financing, to > generative financing models > > > > > > this is the price to pay for saving the planet, otherwise we are doomed > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:29 AM David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt(a)icloud.com> > wrote: > > > Your email refers to an article about applying blockchain to business > actors in a market economy. What interests me far more is the nature of > actors who will end up in a new commons sector, possibly after migrating > there from the old public and private sectors. Will blockchain-like methods > give them advantages? Enough to help form and sustain a distinct commons > sector? > > > > > > As you know, I think good candidates for this sector will come from > health, education, environment, and welfare activities and related > insurance entities, following huge reorganizations. A while back I saw an > article about blockchain’s promise for insurance, observing among other > points that "Blockchain adoption has the power to transition new and > existing models of insurance, including P2P insurance, parametric insurance > and microinsurance, into a new digital age.” > > > > > > The article you circulated about “V-form networks” implies > improvements for the market sector. Fine with me. But I’d sure like to see > lots more about competitive advantages for a commons sector vis a vis the > old public and private sectors, along with cooperative advantages within > and without this prospective commons sector. At least I’ve seen few > references to using blockchain/ holochain/ whatever in hospitals and > schools. > > > > > > More generally, i shall hope that this prospective new commons sector > (which will be decades in the making) focuses on being itself, the commons > sector, and not on transforming all of society. Many problems we have now > stem from the public and private sectors trying to be so much more than > they should be, distorting our society (including by squeezing and > burdening the family /community /household sector). All of which helps > explain why I’d say politicians like Bernie Sanders and Alexandra > Ocasio-Perez would be well-advised to cease calling for socialism across > society as a whole and instead call for socialism in one sector, since the > commons sector should meet many of their values and principles. TIMN is not > a socialist theory, but it could commend what I just suggested. > > > > > > Onward. > > > > > > > > > === > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear James, > > > > > > > > in the context of our study, > https://www.foprop.org/stewarding-material-commons > > > > > > > > perhaps this context is precisely what you could offer us ? I am > also still in particular need of a good explanation, for a separate > 'explanatory box' of the 3 thermodynamic laws, > > > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:31 AM <jbquilligan3(a)charter.net> wrote: > > > > beyond earthquake, Michel > > > > > > > > the global political economy of supply chains restructured by > blockchain will be in full operation when emergency rationing is instituted > about 2040-2045 due to swelling populations, diminishing levels of arable > land, water, fossil fuels and rare minerals and the debilitating effects of > climate change > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > From: "Michel Bauwens" > > > > To: "Alex Pazaitis", "David Ronfeldt", "Sarah Grace Manski", "xavier > rizos", "Xavier BlaqSwans", "Andrea Fumagalli", "Alex Foti", "jose ramos", > "p2p-foundation" > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 3:27:49AM > > > > Subject: eco-systemic supply chains are on their way > > > > > > > > I hope this can impress some people that are still on the sidelines > of this major earthquake, to understand the significance of what is > occuring right now, a fundamental re-ordering of the capitalist economy > under new models: > > > > > > > > first of all, see this article, that shows successfull blockchain > trials for supply chains, > https://which-50.com/commbank-and-logistics-giants-complete-blockchain-trad… > ? > > > > > > > > and what it all means in terms of industrial structures see the > article quoted below, > > > > > > > > but in fact, I don't think their analysis goes far enough, because > in the ethereum networks, corporates are already subsumed to a eco-system > consisting not just of companies, but of a multitude of other players, > including lots of single individuals: > > > > > > > > QUOTE > > > > > > > > Blockchain-Based Corporate V-Networks > > > > = "V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent > companies that effectively operate as one vertically integrated company > through blockchain technology". [1] > > > > > > > > Contents [hide] > > > > • 1 Contextual Citation > > > > • 2 Description > > > > • 3 Example > > > > • 3.1 The IBM and Maersk TradeTech > > > > Contextual Citation[edit] > > > > "A blockchain economy will have more, smaller firms linked together > by protocols. .. It’s worth pointing out that these networks are inherently > global, and any regulatory questions global as well." > > > > - Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts [2] > > > > > > > > Description[edit] > > > > "The Nobel laureate Oliver Williamson distinguishes between U-form > companies and M-form companies. > > > > Traditional U-form companies are unitary — their units are divided > by business process (for instance, accounting, human resources, component > manufacturing, assembly) and are not treated as separate cost centres. > > > > M-form companies are multidivisional — their units are > self-contained divisions that report profits and losses to an umbrella > central body. They’re fully owned by a parent company, but they tend to > have their own business services (accounting and human resources > departments, for instance) and even market relationships. > > > > But now we see a new corporate form — the V-form network — made > possible because thanks to the application of distributed ledger technology > to supply chain problems. > > > > These V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent > companies that effectively operate as one vertically integrated company > through blockchain technology, coordinated and supplied by a third party. > > > > This is a big change to the nature of the firm. We can already see > V-form networks in the real world. They date as far back as January. It is > surprising the economics community haven’t noticed them yet. > > > > ... > > > > > > > > Blockchains can work to coordinate supply chains without the need > for either (traditional) vertical integration or regulation. The vertical > integration is outsourced to a distributed ledger. The blockchain provides > the managerial service that coordinates each ‘unit’ (that is, firm) in the > supply chain. > > > > Regulators in any country can deal any firm in the supply chain as > if it was a small unit of a larger, global company. > > > > Each firm in the supply chain get the benefits of vertical > integration through a network rather than a hierarchy. > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > In the V-form network, the blockchain’s token establishes the > consortium, and incentivizes cooperative behaviour. > > > > The token also serves to move rents around the network. In this way, > the blockchain provides a market mechanism to solve the sort of bargaining > problems described by another Nobel laureate, Ronald Coase, that may occur > as the network operates. > > > > Outsourced vertical integration could be applied to many industries > that are now integrated. Energy firms that currently integrate the > exploration, production, generation, and retail of electricity might be > better decomposed, with blockchains and tokens taking the place of head > offices. The token economy, rather than energy regulators, could make > decisions about the distribution of rents around the network." ( > https://medium.com/cryptoeconomics-australia/outsourcing-vertical-integrati… > ) > > > > > > > > Example[edit] > > > > The IBM and Maersk TradeTech[edit] > > > > Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts: > > > > "Two weeks into 2018, IBM and the shipping giant Maersk announced a > joint venture to develop a digital supply chain management system on their > Hyperledger blockchain platform. Hyperledger is a private blockchain which > requires permission to access. > > > > In a previous Cryptoeconomics piece, we described how international > trade is an information problem. As goods are shipped around the world, > they are accompanied by information — really stacks of paperwork — that > describe their provenance, destinations, regulatory and tax liabilities and > so on. > > > > In the IBM-Maersk system, each firm and bureaucracy in the supply > chain — producers, shippers, port authorities, regulators, importers, > retailers — will access and update a shared blockchain ledger containing > all the information needed by each organisation. > > > > And each organisation would have access to that information > everywhere, ensuring complete visibility on where goods are in the world > and which economic and regulatory hurdles they next need to overcome." 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Re: [P2P-F] eco-systemic supply chains are on their way
by Michel Bauwens 09 Aug '18

09 Aug '18

I don't really share the pessimistic assessment of James, for all measures that I know, the commons are in pretty much exponential uptake the issue is more that the commons are captured by capital, but again, given historical precedents of phase change, this is to be expected, Michel On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 6:13 PM David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt(a)icloud.com> wrote: > Many thanks for your reply > > I see points I agree with, notably that "those who represent the interests > of the commons are on the back foot” for all the reasons you name. > Moreover, for now it’s indeed true that "markets and governments are > impositions on the commons” — that’s long been so, but the rise of the > info-age network form may change that, if TIMN is correct. I also generally > agree that "the possibilities of visionary leadership for decentralized > commons through public ledgers are thus far unable to generate network > effects for the public good” — though I’m not all sure what that means > specifically. > > However, I must note that you seem to misunderstand me/TIMN when you say > that the kind of blockchain project you want "does not involve isolating > the commons as a separate unit from markets and governments as you [I] > suggest, since these are in fact not independent sectors but actually vital > parts of the underlying commons”. But I have never conceived of the commons > as a “separate unit”. Distinct and boundaried, yes, but separate no. > Whatever the best words for what I think TIMN implies, they are words that > should apply to all four TIMN sectors, as aspects of its general system > dynamics. All four forms are vital to a quadriform society; each is > distinct and different; independent to a degree, but also interdependent; > and they interact constantly. > > I have additional overarching comments as well, but I’ll put them in my > reply to Michel. I’m sensing that we have in mind very different concepts > of the commons sector, more different than I had thought. P2P’s concept > seems geared primarily to economic matters, whereas i think TIMN’s isn’t. > More on that later. > > > === > > > On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:08 PM, jbquilligan3(a)charter.net wrote: > > > > well, David, that would be a great objective but the evidence indicates > that blockchain is well on its way to becoming a central management tool of > the capitalist economy > > > > once again those who represent the interests of the commons are on the > back foot, have no political portfolio, lack financing and generally do not > have an integrated plan > > > > indeed, markets and governments are impositions on the commons, but the > countervailing power of the commons is not in seeing the commons as a > dialectical synthesis which results from and/or works in > counter-distinction to markets and governments > > > > our theorists are so thoroughly conditioned by the liberal tradition > that the possibilities of visionary leadership for decentralized commons > through public ledgers are thus far unable to generate network effects for > the public good > > > > I will be first in line for a blockchain which links the resource > thresholds of an ecology with the allocations for meeting the needs of the > population within that ecology, but this project does not involve isolating > the commons as a separate unit from markets and governments as you suggest, > since these are in fact not independent sectors but actually vital parts of > the underlying commons > > > > isn't it really about developing a blockchain that transforms markets > and governments back to their proto-distributional functions for the > sustainability of the commons in meeting human needs? > > > > frankly I've not seen a single blockchain plan that actually links > resources with population, which leads me to believe that the opportunity > for a commons blockchain is rapidly slipping away if not already entirely > lost > > > > what I do see is a few commoners creating circles of self-sufficiency > while a crusade of Libertarians marches to the slogan, Onward Venture > Capital > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > From: "David Ronfeldt" > > To: "Michel Bauwens" > > Cc: "David Ronfeldt", "James Bernard Quilligan", "Alex Pazaitis", "Sarah > Grace Manski", "xavier rizos", "Xavier BlaqSwans", "Andrea Fumagalli", > "Alex Foti", "jose ramos", "p2p-foundation" > > Sent: Monday August 6 2018 6:29:16PM > > Subject: Re: eco-systemic supply chains are on their way > > > > Your email refers to an article about applying blockchain to business > actors in a market economy. What interests me far more is the nature of > actors who will end up in a new commons sector, possibly after migrating > there from the old public and private sectors. Will blockchain-like methods > give them advantages? Enough to help form and sustain a distinct commons > sector? > > > > As you know, I think good candidates for this sector will come from > health, education, environment, and welfare activities and related > insurance entities, following huge reorganizations. A while back I saw an > article about blockchain’s promise for insurance, observing among other > points that "Blockchain adoption has the power to transition new and > existing models of insurance, including P2P insurance, parametric insurance > and microinsurance, into a new digital age.” > > > > The article you circulated about “V-form networks” implies improvements > for the market sector. Fine with me. But I’d sure like to see lots more > about competitive advantages for a commons sector vis a vis the old public > and private sectors, along with cooperative advantages within and without > this prospective commons sector. At least I’ve seen few references to using > blockchain/ holochain/ whatever in hospitals and schools. > > > > More generally, i shall hope that this prospective new commons sector > (which will be decades in the making) focuses on being itself, the commons > sector, and not on transforming all of society. Many problems we have now > stem from the public and private sectors trying to be so much more than > they should be, distorting our society (including by squeezing and > burdening the family /community /household sector). All of which helps > explain why I’d say politicians like Bernie Sanders and Alexandra > Ocasio-Perez would be well-advised to cease calling for socialism across > society as a whole and instead call for socialism in one sector, since the > commons sector should meet many of their values and principles. TIMN is not > a socialist theory, but it could commend what I just suggested. > > > > Onward. > > > > > > === > > > > > On Aug 5, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > dear James, > > > > > > in the context of our study, > https://www.foprop.org/stewarding-material-commons > > /> > > > > perhaps this context is precisely what you could offer us ? I am also > still in particular need of a good explanation, for a separate 'explanatory > box' of the 3 thermodynamic laws, > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:31 AM <jbquilligan3(a)charter.net> wrote: > > > beyond earthquake, Michel > > > > > > the global political economy of supply chains restructured by > blockchain will be in full operation when emergency rationing is instituted > about 2040-2045 due to swelling populations, diminishing levels of arable > land, water, fossil fuels and rare minerals and the debilitating effects of > climate change > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > From: "Michel Bauwens" > > > To: "Alex Pazaitis", "David Ronfeldt", "Sarah Grace Manski", "xavier > rizos", "Xavier BlaqSwans", "Andrea Fumagalli", "Alex Foti", "jose ramos", > "p2p-foundation" > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 3:27:49AM > > > Subject: eco-systemic supply chains are on their way > > > > > > I hope this can impress some people that are still on the sidelines of > this major earthquake, to understand the significance of what is occuring > right now, a fundamental re-ordering of the capitalist economy under new > models: > > > > > > first of all, see this article, that shows successfull blockchain > trials for supply chains, > https://which-50.com/commbank-and-logistics-giants-complete-blockchain-trad… > ? > > /> > > > > and what it all means in terms of industrial structures see the > article quoted below, > > > > > > but in fact, I don't think their analysis goes far enough, because in > the ethereum networks, corporates are already subsumed to a eco-system > consisting not just of companies, but of a multitude of other players, > including lots of single individuals: > > > > > > QUOTE > > > > > > Blockchain-Based Corporate V-Networks > > > = "V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent companies > that effectively operate as one vertically integrated company through > blockchain technology". [1] > > > > > > Contents [hide] > > > • 1 Contextual Citation > > > • 2 Description > > > • 3 Example > > > • 3.1 The IBM and Maersk TradeTech > > > Contextual Citation[edit] > > > "A blockchain economy will have more, smaller firms linked together by > protocols. .. It’s worth pointing out that these networks are inherently > global, and any regulatory questions global as well." > > > - Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts [2] > > > > > > Description[edit] > > > "The Nobel laureate Oliver Williamson distinguishes between U-form > companies and M-form companies. > > > Traditional U-form companies are unitary — their units are divided by > business process (for instance, accounting, human resources, component > manufacturing, assembly) and are not treated as separate cost centres. > > > M-form companies are multidivisional — their units are self-contained > divisions that report profits and losses to an umbrella central body. > They’re fully owned by a parent company, but they tend to have their own > business services (accounting and human resources departments, for > instance) and even market relationships. > > > But now we see a new corporate form — the V-form network — made > possible because thanks to the application of distributed ledger technology > to supply chain problems. > > > These V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent > companies that effectively operate as one vertically integrated company > through blockchain technology, coordinated and supplied by a third party. > > > This is a big change to the nature of the firm. We can already see > V-form networks in the real world. They date as far back as January. It is > surprising the economics community haven’t noticed them yet. > > > ... > > > > > > Blockchains can work to coordinate supply chains without the need for > either (traditional) vertical integration or regulation. The vertical > integration is outsourced to a distributed ledger. The blockchain provides > the managerial service that coordinates each ‘unit’ (that is, firm) in the > supply chain. > > > Regulators in any country can deal any firm in the supply chain as if > it was a small unit of a larger, global company. > > > Each firm in the supply chain get the benefits of vertical integration > through a network rather than a hierarchy. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > In the V-form network, the blockchain’s token establishes the > consortium, and incentivizes cooperative behaviour. > > > The token also serves to move rents around the network. In this way, > the blockchain provides a market mechanism to solve the sort of bargaining > problems described by another Nobel laureate, Ronald Coase, that may occur > as the network operates. > > > Outsourced vertical integration could be applied to many industries > that are now integrated. Energy firms that currently integrate the > exploration, production, generation, and retail of electricity might be > better decomposed, with blockchains and tokens taking the place of head > offices. The token economy, rather than energy regulators, could make > decisions about the distribution of rents around the network." ( > https://medium.com/cryptoeconomics-australia/outsourcing-vertical-integrati… > ) > > /> > > > > Example[edit] > > > The IBM and Maersk TradeTech[edit] > > > Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts: > > > "Two weeks into 2018, IBM and the shipping giant Maersk announced a > joint venture to develop a digital supply chain management system on their > Hyperledger blockchain platform. Hyperledger is a private blockchain which > requires permission to access. > > > In a previous Cryptoeconomics piece, we described how international > trade is an information problem. As goods are shipped around the world, > they are accompanied by information — really stacks of paperwork — that > describe their provenance, destinations, regulatory and tax liabilities and > so on. > > > In the IBM-Maersk system, each firm and bureaucracy in the supply > chain — producers, shippers, port authorities, regulators, importers, > retailers — will access and update a shared blockchain ledger containing > all the information needed by each organisation. > > > And each organisation would have access to that information > everywhere, ensuring complete visibility on where goods are in the world > and which economic and regulatory hurdles they next need to overcome." ( > https://medium.com/cryptoeconomics-australia/outsourcing-vertical-integrati… > ) > > /> > > > > -- > > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > /> > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > /> > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] eco-systemic supply chains are on their way
by Michel Bauwens 09 Aug '18

09 Aug '18

perhaps you read subsumed and domination differently than I do, it absolutely does not mean the disappearance of other forms and/or any absolutism (funnily, absolutism was the result of the equilibrium between declining feudal forms and emerging market forms, which is what gave kings such an absolute power) subsumbtion means, geared towards the chaotic attractor let's take spirituality under authority ranking / state distribution, organized religion takes the form of communal brotherhood (christian, buddhist, taoist monasteries), but the original egaliterianism is subsumed under feudal and ranked power relationships; under merchant capitalism, capitalism takes the form of democratic Reformed Churchers, under neoliberal regimes, as for-pay market experiences ('instant enlightenment in one weekend') second, we should make a difference between what we commend and what actually is the case, whether we wish for such subsumption or not, it has been historically the case for as long as humanity existed, so you would have to make a extraordinary case for such a extraordinary expectation and hypothesis Michel On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 6:26 PM David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt(a)icloud.com> wrote: > > I gather we are having some analytical differences, but also some > interpretation differences — and in many spots I’m not sure which are which > from the writing. > > I see points I quite agree with: > > Given the way I understand TIMN, its four cardinal forms and their > respective sectors do indeed need to interact with each other — so I agree > that ”the commons need to interact with the market”. TIMN also agrees that > an older sector/form will be modified by the rise of a new form, in order > to work best with it — so of course a reformed market would better “work > for the commons”. I have never thought that any sector can “escape > relations with the market” or any other sector. I also agree that "for a > commons sector to thrive as such, major societal reforms would be > necessary” — but TIMN may imply different reforms from what you have in > mind. > > Meanwhile, I also see some serious differences (if I read you correctly): > > You say that the commons sector will be "geared towards the market” and > make it "more competitive than market forms without the commons”. To a > degree, yes. But the way I read this and related materials, you think that > the key function of the commons will be to determine the new economy. But > constraining the commons' function to that would violate my understanding > of TIMN. Where’s the unique purposeful activity of the commons in all this? > You all keep going back to the economy, the market, the nature of > capitalism. But TIMN implies that the network-based sector will be as > different from the market-based sector as the latter is from the state- and > tribe/family-based sectors. The core purposes, values, and concepts that > accompany the tribal, institutional, and market forms are all quite > different from each other; if TIMN is correct, the same will apply to the > network form and its sector. > > This brings us around to what is currently our biggest difference: TIMN > does not argue for believing in subsumption or domination by any one form > over others. It often happens, but I can’t find that it’s a good outcome. > Such subsumption or domination certainly doesn’t occur when a new form > first arises. Later, in its mature phases, it should grow strong enough to > hold its own amid the other forms and their sectors. In late maturity, it > may try to subsume / dominate over all of society, as absolutism did ages > ago, and capitalism seems to be doing today. But that results in imbalances > and distortions, with the dark sides of a form running rampant over the > bright. Something similar applies when an older form, say the tribal form, > holds dominant sway. In case after case, that has led to corrupt clannish > regimes and societies, where state institutions cannot professionalize and > a fair crony-less market economy cannot take hold. So, it seems way too > early to talk about a new/next society dominated by the nascent network > form and commons sector. Its ideals and values may look preferable today, > but so did the ideals of the older forms once upon a time. I’m all in favor > of pro-commons ideals and values spreading, but TIMN also implies retaining > the positive values and ideals from the older forms. > > Michel, I don’t understand why you tell me that "you never talk about > commos sectors in your work but about networks” — for I constantly refer to > a commons sector as a likely result of the rise of the new network form. > And you then state that “hence for you, what is important, is that the > corporate market form is subsumed to the network form” — but that strikes > me as close to your view, and far, very far, from my own. I repeat, TIMN as > I understand it does not commend such subsumption and domination by any > single form — that usually means imbalance and distortion, as discussed > above. Maybe I misread your phrasing here? > > Maybe you try to clarify your view when you next observe that "in > blockchain economies all market players are subsumed to the new network > form, which is a hybrid of markets and commons, but they are not completely > subsumed to the commons sector as such”. But that still means a lot of > subsuming is going on. It also makes it seem as though the market has been > taken over by the network form via a hybrid. > > Not so, according to TIMN. All earlier forms — the tribal, institutional, > and market forms — will be modified by the rise of the network form. That > is consistent with TIMN’s general system dynamics. Family, bureaucratic, > and market structures are indeed already being altered by network dynamics. > But none of them are being subsumed, and they all will/should (according to > TIMN) retain their distinctive essences if matters proceed well. In a > quadriform society, the market and commons sectors will indeed interact, > but their interaction and interconnection will not be the primary purpose > and activity of either. Moreover, the +N sector will be as different from > the +M sector as the latter is from the +I and the T sectors. > > Anyway, quite an interesting instructive exchange with you and James. I > barely found time to write all this. I hope you have time to read it. Are > we making progress? I’m gathering that our notions of the commons sector > are more different than I’d thought. Onward. > > > === > > > On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:28 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > hi David, > > > > I may see this a bit differently than yourself, > > > > i.e. the market itself can have extractive and/or generative forms, and > the commons need to interact with the market and the commons, > > > > in order for the market to work for the commons, it needs to be a > generative market, i.e. a non-capitalist or post-capitalist market form or > at least a suitable adapted capitalist market form that is kept at arms > length > > > > a commons sector can use 'communist principles' internally, as it does > in open source, everybody can contribute and use, or it can use 'socialist > principles' internally (reciprocal relationships and allocations); but > externally, in this society, it cannot escape relations with the market, > > > > now in the blockchain space, the commons are geared towards the market, > in ways that seem acceptable to most actors in these sectors, as they do > for most of open source spaces; but for us, that is not sufficient, since > these arrangements still generate major exclusions (higher gini > coefficients than normal market relationships) and ecological damages > (relatively higher than external); this being said, blockchain economics > are tilted far more in favour of labour, however, at the price of > exploiting 'external labor' > > > > so we favour different arrangement, a la Enspiral, in which the market > and capital, sustains and grows the commoners and their resources > > > > but you never talk about commos sectors in your work but about networks > > > > hence for you, what is important, is that the corporate market form is > subsumed to the network form, i.e. there are much less possibilities for > vertically integrated oligopolies; in blockchain economies all market > players are subsumed to the new network form, which is a hybrid of markets > and commons, but they are not completely subsumed to the commons sector as > such > > > > nevertheless, what is already shows is that a network form , allied with > a strong commons element, is for market forces, already more competitive > than market forms without the commons, that surely, must be significant > enough for your TIMN framework, > > > > open source was the first wave of this, blockchain is the second, and > the platform economy is also a form of this > > > > at a more marginal local level, urban commons are also playing a role in > this transformation > > > > but for a commons sector to thrive as such, major societal reforms would > be necessary, i.e. a shift away from extractive financing, to generative > financing models > > > > this is the price to pay for saving the planet, otherwise we are doomed > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:29 AM David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt(a)icloud.com> > wrote: > > Your email refers to an article about applying blockchain to business > actors in a market economy. What interests me far more is the nature of > actors who will end up in a new commons sector, possibly after migrating > there from the old public and private sectors. Will blockchain-like methods > give them advantages? Enough to help form and sustain a distinct commons > sector? > > > > As you know, I think good candidates for this sector will come from > health, education, environment, and welfare activities and related > insurance entities, following huge reorganizations. A while back I saw an > article about blockchain’s promise for insurance, observing among other > points that "Blockchain adoption has the power to transition new and > existing models of insurance, including P2P insurance, parametric insurance > and microinsurance, into a new digital age.” > > > > The article you circulated about “V-form networks” implies improvements > for the market sector. Fine with me. But I’d sure like to see lots more > about competitive advantages for a commons sector vis a vis the old public > and private sectors, along with cooperative advantages within and without > this prospective commons sector. At least I’ve seen few references to using > blockchain/ holochain/ whatever in hospitals and schools. > > > > More generally, i shall hope that this prospective new commons sector > (which will be decades in the making) focuses on being itself, the commons > sector, and not on transforming all of society. Many problems we have now > stem from the public and private sectors trying to be so much more than > they should be, distorting our society (including by squeezing and > burdening the family /community /household sector). All of which helps > explain why I’d say politicians like Bernie Sanders and Alexandra > Ocasio-Perez would be well-advised to cease calling for socialism across > society as a whole and instead call for socialism in one sector, since the > commons sector should meet many of their values and principles. TIMN is not > a socialist theory, but it could commend what I just suggested. > > > > Onward. > > > > > > === > > > > > On Aug 5, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > dear James, > > > > > > in the context of our study, > https://www.foprop.org/stewarding-material-commons > > > > > > perhaps this context is precisely what you could offer us ? I am also > still in particular need of a good explanation, for a separate 'explanatory > box' of the 3 thermodynamic laws, > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:31 AM <jbquilligan3(a)charter.net> wrote: > > > beyond earthquake, Michel > > > > > > the global political economy of supply chains restructured by > blockchain will be in full operation when emergency rationing is instituted > about 2040-2045 due to swelling populations, diminishing levels of arable > land, water, fossil fuels and rare minerals and the debilitating effects of > climate change > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > From: "Michel Bauwens" > > > To: "Alex Pazaitis", "David Ronfeldt", "Sarah Grace Manski", "xavier > rizos", "Xavier BlaqSwans", "Andrea Fumagalli", "Alex Foti", "jose ramos", > "p2p-foundation" > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 3:27:49AM > > > Subject: eco-systemic supply chains are on their way > > > > > > I hope this can impress some people that are still on the sidelines of > this major earthquake, to understand the significance of what is occuring > right now, a fundamental re-ordering of the capitalist economy under new > models: > > > > > > first of all, see this article, that shows successfull blockchain > trials for supply chains, > https://which-50.com/commbank-and-logistics-giants-complete-blockchain-trad… > ? > > > > > > and what it all means in terms of industrial structures see the > article quoted below, > > > > > > but in fact, I don't think their analysis goes far enough, because in > the ethereum networks, corporates are already subsumed to a eco-system > consisting not just of companies, but of a multitude of other players, > including lots of single individuals: > > > > > > QUOTE > > > > > > Blockchain-Based Corporate V-Networks > > > = "V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent companies > that effectively operate as one vertically integrated company through > blockchain technology". [1] > > > > > > Contents [hide] > > > • 1 Contextual Citation > > > • 2 Description > > > • 3 Example > > > • 3.1 The IBM and Maersk TradeTech > > > Contextual Citation[edit] > > > "A blockchain economy will have more, smaller firms linked together by > protocols. .. It’s worth pointing out that these networks are inherently > global, and any regulatory questions global as well." > > > - Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts [2] > > > > > > Description[edit] > > > "The Nobel laureate Oliver Williamson distinguishes between U-form > companies and M-form companies. > > > Traditional U-form companies are unitary — their units are divided by > business process (for instance, accounting, human resources, component > manufacturing, assembly) and are not treated as separate cost centres. > > > M-form companies are multidivisional — their units are self-contained > divisions that report profits and losses to an umbrella central body. > They’re fully owned by a parent company, but they tend to have their own > business services (accounting and human resources departments, for > instance) and even market relationships. > > > But now we see a new corporate form — the V-form network — made > possible because thanks to the application of distributed ledger technology > to supply chain problems. > > > These V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent > companies that effectively operate as one vertically integrated company > through blockchain technology, coordinated and supplied by a third party. > > > This is a big change to the nature of the firm. We can already see > V-form networks in the real world. They date as far back as January. It is > surprising the economics community haven’t noticed them yet. > > > ... > > > > > > Blockchains can work to coordinate supply chains without the need for > either (traditional) vertical integration or regulation. The vertical > integration is outsourced to a distributed ledger. The blockchain provides > the managerial service that coordinates each ‘unit’ (that is, firm) in the > supply chain. > > > Regulators in any country can deal any firm in the supply chain as if > it was a small unit of a larger, global company. > > > Each firm in the supply chain get the benefits of vertical integration > through a network rather than a hierarchy. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > In the V-form network, the blockchain’s token establishes the > consortium, and incentivizes cooperative behaviour. > > > The token also serves to move rents around the network. In this way, > the blockchain provides a market mechanism to solve the sort of bargaining > problems described by another Nobel laureate, Ronald Coase, that may occur > as the network operates. > > > Outsourced vertical integration could be applied to many industries > that are now integrated. Energy firms that currently integrate the > exploration, production, generation, and retail of electricity might be > better decomposed, with blockchains and tokens taking the place of head > offices. The token economy, rather than energy regulators, could make > decisions about the distribution of rents around the network." ( > https://medium.com/cryptoeconomics-australia/outsourcing-vertical-integrati… > ) > > > > > > Example[edit] > > > The IBM and Maersk TradeTech[edit] > > > Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts: > > > "Two weeks into 2018, IBM and the shipping giant Maersk announced a > joint venture to develop a digital supply chain management system on their > Hyperledger blockchain platform. Hyperledger is a private blockchain which > requires permission to access. > > > In a previous Cryptoeconomics piece, we described how international > trade is an information problem. As goods are shipped around the world, > they are accompanied by information — really stacks of paperwork — that > describe their provenance, destinations, regulatory and tax liabilities and > so on. > > > In the IBM-Maersk system, each firm and bureaucracy in the supply > chain — producers, shippers, port authorities, regulators, importers, > retailers — will access and update a shared blockchain ledger containing > all the information needed by each organisation. > > > And each organisation would have access to that information > everywhere, ensuring complete visibility on where goods are in the world > and which economic and regulatory hurdles they next need to overcome." ( > https://medium.com/cryptoeconomics-australia/outsourcing-vertical-integrati… > ) > > > > > > -- > > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > > > > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: PGA post: Shareable's 300 guides to sustainable living
by Michel Bauwens 09 Aug '18

09 Aug '18

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Fwd: [Networked-Labour] Fwd: INVITATION - European Deliverers Assembly - 25&26 October - Brussels - EN-FR-ES
by Michel Bauwens 08 Aug '18

08 Aug '18

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Örsan Şenalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:58 PM Subject: [Networked-Labour] Fwd: INVITATION - European Deliverers Assembly - 25&26 October - Brussels - EN-FR-ES To: Networked Labour <networked-labour_igopnet(a)lists.igopnet.cc> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sebastian Altersummit <sebastian(a)altersummit.eu> Date: 2018-08-08 12:50 GMT+02:00 Subject: INVITATION - European Deliverers Assembly - 25&26 October - Brussels - EN-FR-ES To: sebastian(a)altersummit.eu *EN - Dear members of Alter Summit, dear working groups participants,* Please find below the invitation to the *European Assembly of platforms deliverers* (Deliveroo, UberEats and Co), which will take place on *25 and 26 October in Brussels* (see agenda attached). The meeting will have significant participation from workers of these platforms. They will be the main protagonists. For us, this participation guarantees the emergence of common demands and proposals for transnational actions. The meeting will also be a moment to identify the trends of contemporary capitalism and the dynamics of resistance developed in this context. These trends and dynamics go far beyond the platforms mentioned above but concern all workers. We will ensure that discussions and decisions are quickly available. Please contact sebastian(a)altersummit.eu for registration or any other questions about the meeting. Wishing you a great summer, please receive our solidarity greetings. *FR - Chers membres de l’Alter Summit, chers participant.e.s aux groupes de travail* Nous vous transmettons ci-dessous l’invitation à *l’Assemblée européenne des livreurs et livreuses à vélo* des plateformes numériques (Deliveroo, UberEats and Co) qui se tiendra *les 25 et 26 octobre prochains à Bruxelles* (voir ordre du jour en pièce jointe). La rencontre comptera une participation importante des travailleurs et travailleuses de ces plateformes. Ils et elles en seront les principaux protagonistes. Cette participation est pour nous la garantie de l’émergence de revendications communes et de propositions d’actions transnationales. Cette rencontre sera en outre un moment pour identifier les tendances du capitalisme contemporain et les dynamiques de résistance qui s’y développent. Ces tendances et dynamiques dépassent largement le cadre des plateformes citées mais concerne bien l’ensemble des travailleurs et travailleuses. Nous ferons en sorte que les discussions et décisions soient rapidement disponibles. Merci de contacter sebastian(a)altersummit.eu pour votre inscription ou pour toute autre question au sujet de l’assemblée. En vous souhaitant encore un bel été, veuillez recevoir nos salutations solidaires. *ES - Estimadas y estimados miembros de Alter Summit, estimadxs participantes a los grupos de trabajo,* A continuación les enviamos la invitación a la *Asamblea Europea de repartidorxs* (Deliveroo, UberEats and Co), que se celebrará los días *25 y 26 de octubre en Bruselas* (ver orden del día adjunto). El encuentro contará con una importante participación de los trabajadorxs de estas plataformas. Seran lxs principales protagonistas. Para nosotros, esta participación garantiza el surgimiento de demandas comunes y propuestas de acciones transnacionales. Este encuentro será también un momento para identificar las tendencias del capitalismo contemporáneo y las dinámicas de resistencia que se están desarrollando allí. Estas tendencias y dinámicas van mucho más allá de las plataformas mencionadas, pero afectan a todos los trabajadorxs. Nos aseguraremos de que los debates y las decisiones estén disponibles rápidamente. Póngase en contacto con sebastian(a)altersummit.eu para inscribirse o para cualquier otra pregunta sobre la reunión. Deseándoles un buen verano, por favor reciban nuestros saludos solidarios. Saludos Sebastian +32 488 15 02 16 *De :* Sebastian Franco [mailto:[email protected]] *Envoyé :* mardi 31 juillet 2018 15:36 *À :* 'sebastian(a)altersummit.eu' *Objet :* INVITATION - European Deliverers Assembly/Assemblée européenne des coursier.ère.s - 25&26 October - Brussels INVITATION - registrationEuropean Deliverers Assembly/ Assemblée européenne des coursier.ère.s25&26 October 2018 – Brussels (18/20 avenue de Stalingrad)*(français ci-dessous, castellano abajo)* *With the participation of deliverers from 9 countries (for the moment Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, UK), activists and trade unionists.* The objectives of the assembly are (Attached is the provisional agenda): · Overview of the situation by country, struggles in progress (day 1) · Round-tables and workshops on common demands, alternative platforms, European coordination and actions, plan of action (day 2) · Transnational action in Brussels (bicycle demonstration, occupancy of places and/or blocking of platform offices...) *Will you be there? With how many people?* We need confirmation and the number of participants to be able to organize the meeting. Send your answer to *sebastian(a)altersummit.eu <sebastian(a)altersummit.eu> *till *September 1st.* We are planning a collective solution for accommodation (youth hostel) that is why it’s important to know as soon as possible the number of participants. *Do not hesitate to spread this invitation as widely as possible to all the deliverers you may know throughout Europe*! *Thanks.* In order to prepare the assembly, we are gathering information on workers statutes, past and ongoing struggles and the different alternatives as cooperatives. Complete with your experience! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1olwgYewdWJhf8aE-gEmr86PpyRQQ7dQC7GQ… To finance part of the event, we are also circulating a crowdfunding. Help us to disseminate! https://www.leetchi.com/c/livreurs-a-velo-des-plateformes-deliveroo-ubereat… Hope to see you in Brussels! FR - 25&26 octobre 2018 – Bruxelles (18/20 avenue de Stalingrad) *Avec la participation de coursier.ère.s de 9 pays (pour l’instant Allemagne, Autriche, Belgique, France, Italie, Norvège, Pays-Bas, Royaume-Uni, Suisse), d’activistes et de syndicalistes.* Les objectifs de l’assemblée sont (en pièce jointe l’ordre du jour provisoire) : · Vue d’ensemble de la situation par pays, des luttes qui s’y déroulent (jour 1)· Tables-rondes et ateliers sur revendications communes, plateformes alternatives, coordination et actions européennes, plan d’action, etc. (jour 2)· Action transnationale à Bruxelles (manifestation en vélo, occupation de place et/ou blocage des bureaux des plateformes…) Serez-vous présent.e.s ? Avec combien de personnes ? Nous avons besoin des confirmations et du nombre exact de participants pour pouvoir organiser l’assemblée. Envoyez votre réponse à sebastian(a)altersummit.eu jusqu’au *1er septembre.* Nous prévoyons une solution collective pour le logement (auberge de jeunesse) c’est pourquoi nous avons besoin de connaitre au plus vite le nombre de participant.e.s. *N’hésitez pas à diffuser le plus largement possible cette invitation à tous les coursier.ère.s que vous connaissez dans toute l’Europe ! Merci.* Afin de préparer l’assemblée, nous rassemblons de l’information sur les statuts des travailleur.euse.s, les luttes passées et actuelles et les différentes alternatives comme les coopératives. Compléter le document avec votre expérience ! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1olwgYewdWJhf8aE-gEmr86PpyRQQ7dQC7GQ… Pour financer une partie de l’assemblée, nous faisons circuler une cagnotte. Merci de nous aider à la diffuser ! https://www.leetchi.com/c/livreurs-a-velo-des-plateformes-deliveroo-ubereat… En espérant vous rencontrer à Bruxelles ! ES - 25&26 de octubre 2018 – Bruselas (18/20 avenue de Stalingrad) *Con la participacion de repartidorxs de 9 paises (por el momento Alemania, Austria, Belgica, Francia, Italia, Noruega, Paises-Bajos, Reino-Unido, Suiza), de activistas y sindicalistas.* Las metas de la asamblea (adjunto el orden del dia provisorio) son :· Vista general de la situacion por pais, de las luchas que tienen lugar (dia 1)· Mesas redondas y talleres sobre demandas comunes, plataformas alternativas, coordinacion y acciones europeas, plan de accion… (dia 2)· Accion transnacional en Bruselas (manifestacion en bici, ocupacion de plazas y/o bloqueo de oficinas de plataformas…) Seran presentes ? Con cuentas personas ?Necesitamos confirmaciones y numero exacto de lxs participantes para poder organizar la asamblea. Favor mandar vuestra respuesta a sebastian(a)altersummit.eu hasta el *1ro de septiembre.* Planeamos una solucion colectiva para el alojamiento (albergue de juventud) por eso necesitamos conocer lo mas rapido posible el numero de participantes. No duden en difundir esta invitacion a todas y todos lxs repartidores que conocen en toda Europa ! Gracias. Con el fin de preparar la asamblea, recolectamos informacion sobre el estatuto de lxs trabajadorxs, las luchas pasadas y presentes, las diferentes alternativas como cooperativas. Completen el documento con su experiencia ! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1olwgYewdWJhf8aE-gEmr86PpyRQQ7dQC7GQ… Para financiar parte de la asamblea, hacemos circular un crowdfunding. Gracias por ayurdanos a difundirlo ! https://www.leetchi.com/c/livreurs-a-velo-des-plateformes-deliveroo-ubereat… Esperando encontrarlxs en Bruselas ! _______________________________________________ Networked-labour_igopnet mailing list Networked-labour_igopnet(a)lists.igopnet.cc http://grups.pangea.org/mailman/listinfo/networked-labour_igopnet -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: FW: Long-Term Investing Trends In Global Future Scenarios
by Michel Bauwens 08 Aug '18

08 Aug '18

triple book review ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Hazel Henderson <hazel.henderson(a)ethicalmarkets.com> Date: Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 5:48 PM Subject: FW: Long-Term Investing Trends In Global Future Scenarios To: Ethical Markets <gogreen(a)ethicalmarkets.com> Dear Global Advisors and Judges Panel, FYI, my latest article. OK to circulate and comments welcome. Hazel *Long-Term Investing Trends In Global Future Scenarios* Aug. 6, 2018 9:35 PM ET Published: SeekingAlpha <https://seekingalpha.com/article/4195539-long-term-investing-trends-global-…> Includes: AAPL <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/AAPL>, AMZN <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/AMZN>, FB <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/FB>, GOOG <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/GOOG>, GOOGL <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/GOOGL>, NFLX <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/NFLX> [image: Hazel Henderson] <https://seekingalpha.com/author/hazel-henderson/articles> Hazel Henderson <https://seekingalpha.com/author/hazel-henderson/articles> Green Economy, Circular Economy, energy, natural resources Ethical Markets <http://www.ethicalmarkets.com> *Summary* - “Imaginal Cells” distills views of future possibilities by global luminaries, curated by editors Kim Polman and Stephen Vasconcellos-Sharpe. - “A New Reality” expands on “The Survival of the Wisest” (1972) by the late Jonas Salk, updated by his son, Jonathan Salk, outlining paths for human evolution for a sustainable future. - “Factfulness” sums up the global scientific research on human progress of the late legendary statistician Hans Rosling, collated by his children, Ola Rosling and Anna Rosling Rönnlund. As this longest bull market faces an uncertain future of trade wars, interest rate hikes, debts in government, corporate and household sectors, this is a time for asset managers to unpack their algos and check their assumptions for the many structural changes in our societies and globalization patterns. These three books lay out an array of positive trends and overlooked possibilities for our human future – a welcome antidote for investors to today’s ever more serious global problems, trends and alarming scenarios. However serious and real these trends: from global climate change, terrorism, species extinctions to financial crises, inequality, cybercrime and nuclear threats, we humans must also keep all the good news of our global situation and the positive trends firmly in mind. These three books are the best recent antidotes for investors I have found to dispel the negativity and cynicism that inhibit the real reforms, courageous civic action needed at all levels to innovate, create and evolve the possible futures that await humanity. Their authors and co-editors have curated and present all these future opportunities from environmental, economic, financial, social and humanistic perspectives. In “Imaginal Cells” editors Polman and Vasconcellos-Sharpe, Reboot the Future, (2017), also co-founders of the non-profit Reboot The Future <http://www.rebootthefuture.org/> use the well-known life cycle of butterflies: from the lowly caterpillar gorged on eating, changing into a chrysalis and finally opening to the gorgeous emerging butterfly. This transformation process often seen in nature, is a powerful metaphor for many human organizations, companies, communities and in our lives. This shape-shifting of an organism’s form and structure is performed by the activities of a special group of “imaginal cells” within the body of the caterpillar, which gradually re-group and re-shape the organism into the chrysalis and finally into the emerging butterfly. No metaphor could be more appropriate for the changes and transformations human societies are now experiencing all over the world: shifting from fossil-fueled sectors to renewable energy and electric vehicles; from sprawling suburbs to urban revivals; from wasteful methods to the circular economies upcycling all inputs for future use – even startups capturing CO2 for making cement and plastics. We report on these deep global processes reshaping global finance and energy sectors in our annual tracking of private investments in our Green Transition Scoreboard® <http://www.ethicalmarkets.com/gts-reports-and-press-releases/>. Many CEOs, start-up entrepreneurs and venture investors are undergoing similar structural changes. Government agencies, academia and religious organizations are also changing in fundamental ways along with digital disruptions in many sectors including finance, media, retailing, medicine, law, and our very democratic systems. Many start-ups remain private and family offices and private equity groups prefer financing them directly through groups including London-based Family Office Forums in Asia, Europe and the USA at which we present. Imaginal Cells reflects the views of many well-respected leaders around the world: including Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Mo Ibrahim, both leaders in Africa; Muhammad Yunus, founder of Bangladesh-based Grameen Bank; architect William McDonough, author of “Cradle to Cradle” (2002) and its certification for circular economy – designed companies such as privately-held ECOR <https://ecorglobal.com/>; Paul Polman, CEO of Unilever (NYSE:UN <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/UN>), scientist Johan Rockstrom who researched the “9 Planetary Boundaries“ (pg. 143); former US vice president Al Gore; Britain’s Jonathon Porritt, founder of Forum for the Future <https://www.forumforthefuture.org/jonathon-porritt> and Mark Malloch-Brown with the United Nations ( <https://www.unglobalcompact.org/>( UN <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/UN>)) Global Compact <https://www.unglobalcompact.org/>, and others. Their views summarized in “Imaginal Cells” reflect their leadership styles. All are similar to those imaginal cells in nature that embody the possibilities of evolution for humanity’s next stage on this planet. This inspiring book is also well-documented and includes lists of additional books and authors fleshing out all these possibilities for our common future. In “A New Reality,” Jonathan Salk, City Point Press, (2018) lovingly updates his father’s ground-breaking “The Survival of the Wisest” first published in 1972, the same year that MIT published its famous Report to the Club of Rome: “Limits to Growth,” led by systems analyst/biologist Donella Meadows. Dr. Jonas Salk, best remembered for his life-saving Salk vaccine which stemmed the terrible polio epidemic, then turned to the global issue of human populations as they expanded across the planet – pressuring its resources and biodiversity. Today, 16 banks collaborate with Michael Bloomberg and Mark Carney of the Bank of England in re-tooling financial models in the Task Force on Climate-Related Financial Disclosure ( TCFD <https://www.fsb-tcfd.org/>) and the UN Principles of Responsible Investing with over $60 trillion of AUM assist in this research – using future scenarios beyond economic models. Salk began exploring how the planet’s many species had evolved. He found two distinct repetitive patterns of statistical S-curves which he labeled Epoch A and Epoch B. During his observations of the evolution of species in Epoch A, Salk found maximum resource-consumption, territorial expansion, rapid growth and out-competing other species for resources. Then as this upward growth curve began saturating its resource-base, there was a leveling of the upward curve into a flatter Epoch B: in which behavior changed to consolidating resources into more sustainable, qualitative development, co-evolving with other beneficial species through communication and combining into more efficient, cooperative networks. Salk rejected “the survival of the fittest” model of competition advocated by British sociologist Herbert Spencer which he attributed wrongly to Charles Darwin in the early editions of The Economist (for which the magazine finally apologized in December 2006). Salk agreed with Charles Darwin’s view of evolution via natural selection driven by environmental changes, and that humans have survived due to their unique abilities, through language and bonding, to cooperate for their survival and achieved their spectacular planetary success. Obvious evidence of the successes of cooperation include humanity’s rise from tribal nomadic bands to settlements and agriculture, to towns, cities, guilds, legal rules, social norms, and today’s multi-national value-chains and corporations. Thus, while competition is also necessary, it works best within cooperative rules-based systems such as the WTO, UN-ratified agreements, as well as prudential global financial architecture. This early Salk volume now updated in “A New Reality: Human Evolution for a Sustainable Future” plots societies’ progression from Epoch A toward Epoch B scenarios – noting the leveling of human population growth as countries develop technologically toward better living standards, education, health and democratic norms while birth rates drop to replacement levels or even lower. I was lucky enough, along with other futurists, to know Dr. Jonas Salk. I was enthralled by sharing a breakfast with him as he discussed how he saw human norms changing with new conditions so as to meet these social transformations. Kudos to Jonathan Salk for so expertly updating all these scientific and social realities in “A New Reality.” Like the future scenarios in “Imaginal Cells,” this book, gives us both the scientific, metaphoric and modeling tools to unpack our obsolete algorithms, big data, human-trained machine learning intelligence (mis-labeled as AI) which still reflect too many cognitive biases. These mental tools can aid and update our short-term decision-making and our financial algos, indexes and robo-advisors of our pension plans, as I pointed out in “AI + Algorithms = Assumptions“, (2017). <http://www.ethicalmarkets.com/artificial-intelligence-algorithms-assumption…> Global statistician Hans Rosling’s work is captured in “Factfulness “by his diligent children, Ola Rosling and Anna Rosling Rönnlund, Flatiron Books, (2018). Hans Rosling enthralled me and many other policy wonks at various UN and EU conferences on world trends. His scientific trend-spotting was encapsulated and clarified in his hundreds of colorful visual representations of trends in: national populations, GDP-growth, poverty gaps, infant mortality, health outcomes, education and social development. All these are now in this book. Most of Rosling’s forecasts from the past two decades have been corroborated and they support the possibilities outlined in “Imaginal Cells” and “A New Reality.” Microsoft (MSFT <https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/msft/real-time>) founder Bill Gates and Melinda Gates recommend “Factfulness “as both “an indispensable guide to thinking clearly about the world” and as “the secret, silent miracle of human progress” in their cover comments. These three books will not only give us scientifically-based hope for our future, but also the optimism necessary for wise longer-term decisions and positive actions. They help clarify our technological choices, needed reforms in our institutions, they illuminate how best to re-purpose our burgeoning social media and the FAANGs (FB <https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/fb/real-time>), (AAPL <https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/aapl/real-time>), (AMZN <https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amzn/real-time>), (NFLX <https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/nflx/real-time>), (GOOGL <https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/googl/real-time>) (GOOG <https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/GOOG>) so as to make more positive contributions to the now global democratic processes and public discourses for a brighter future. These books are essential additions to the bookshelves of impact investors and asset managers, and on public and private decision-makers’ summer reading lists. *Hazel Henderson©2018* *Disclosure:*I/we have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. *Additional disclosure: *Full Disclosure: The Family Office Forums at which Hazel Henderson presents Ethical Markets Media research in Asia, Europe and USA. Hazel Henderson serves as a Technical Advisor to ECOR on the circular-economy. (Nonpayment as advisor but with stock options if they become public). SeekingAlpha Link: *Long-Term Investing Trends In Global Future Scenarios* <https://seekingalpha.com/article/4195539-long-term-investing-trends-global-…> by Hazel Henderson As this longest bull market faces an uncertain future of trade wars, interest rate hikes, debts in government, corporate and household sectors, this is a time for asset managers to unpack their algos and check their assumptions for the many structural changes in our societies and globalization patterns. *read more »* <https://seekingalpha.com/article/4195539-long-term-investing-trends-global-…> -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] eco-systemic supply chains are on their way
by Michel Bauwens 08 Aug '18

08 Aug '18

looks interesting, thanks!! On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:18 PM Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm wondering how these blockchain-integrated supply chains will > escape the curse of competitive value capture: > > https://www.academia.edu/10252910/The_uneasy_transition_from_supply_chains_… > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 2:27 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > I hope this can impress some people that are still on the sidelines of > this > > major earthquake, to understand the significance of what is occuring > right > > now, a fundamental re-ordering of the capitalist economy under new > models: > > > > first of all, see this article, that shows successfull blockchain trials > for > > supply chains, > > > https://which-50.com/commbank-and-logistics-giants-complete-blockchain-trad… > ? > > > > and what it all means in terms of industrial structures see the article > > quoted below, > > > > but in fact, I don't think their analysis goes far enough, because in the > > ethereum networks, corporates are already subsumed to a eco-system > > consisting not just of companies, but of a multitude of other players, > > including lots of single individuals: > > > > QUOTE > > > > Blockchain-Based Corporate V-Networks > > > > = "V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent companies > that > > effectively operate as one vertically integrated company through > blockchain > > technology". [1] > > > > > > Contents > > > > [hide] > > > > 1 Contextual Citation > > 2 Description > > 3 Example > > > > 3.1 The IBM and Maersk TradeTech > > > > Contextual Citation[edit] > > > > "A blockchain economy will have more, smaller firms linked together by > > protocols. ... It’s worth pointing out that these networks are inherently > > global, and any regulatory questions global as well." > > > > - Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts [2] > > > > > > Description[edit] > > > > "The Nobel laureate Oliver Williamson distinguishes between U-form > companies > > and M-form companies. > > > > Traditional U-form companies are unitary — their units are divided by > > business process (for instance, accounting, human resources, component > > manufacturing, assembly) and are not treated as separate cost centres. > > > > M-form companies are multidivisional — their units are self-contained > > divisions that report profits and losses to an umbrella central body. > > They’re fully owned by a parent company, but they tend to have their own > > business services (accounting and human resources departments, for > instance) > > and even market relationships. > > > > But now we see a new corporate form — the V-form network — made possible > > because thanks to the application of distributed ledger technology to > supply > > chain problems. > > > > These V-form networks consist of a number of fully independent companies > > that effectively operate as one vertically integrated company through > > blockchain technology, coordinated and supplied by a third party. > > > > This is a big change to the nature of the firm. We can already see V-form > > networks in the real world. They date as far back as January. It is > > surprising the economics community haven’t noticed them yet. > > > > ... > > > > > > Blockchains can work to coordinate supply chains without the need for > either > > (traditional) vertical integration or regulation. The vertical > integration > > is outsourced to a distributed ledger. The blockchain provides the > > managerial service that coordinates each ‘unit’ (that is, firm) in the > > supply chain. > > > > Regulators in any country can deal any firm in the supply chain as if it > was > > a small unit of a larger, global company. > > > > Each firm in the supply chain get the benefits of vertical integration > > through a network rather than a hierarchy. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > In the V-form network, the blockchain’s token establishes the consortium, > > and incentivizes cooperative behaviour. > > > > The token also serves to move rents around the network. In this way, the > > blockchain provides a market mechanism to solve the sort of bargaining > > problems described by another Nobel laureate, Ronald Coase, that may > occur > > as the network operates. > > > > Outsourced vertical integration could be applied to many industries that > are > > now integrated. Energy firms that currently integrate the exploration, > > production, generation, and retail of electricity might be better > > decomposed, with blockchains and tokens taking the place of head offices. > > The token economy, rather than energy regulators, could make decisions > about > > the distribution of rents around the network." > > ( > https://medium.com/cryptoeconomics-australia/outsourcing-vertical-integrati… > ) > > > > > > Example[edit] > > > > The IBM and Maersk TradeTech[edit] > > > > Chris Berg, Sinclair Davidson and Jason Potts: > > > > "Two weeks into 2018, IBM and the shipping giant Maersk announced a joint > > venture to develop a digital supply chain management system on their > > Hyperledger blockchain platform. Hyperledger is a private blockchain > which > > requires permission to access. > > > > In a previous Cryptoeconomics piece, we described how international > trade is > > an information problem. As goods are shipped around the world, they are > > accompanied by information — really stacks of paperwork — that describe > > their provenance, destinations, regulatory and tax liabilities and so on. > > > > In the IBM-Maersk system, each firm and bureaucracy in the supply > > chain — producers, shippers, port authorities, regulators, importers, > > retailers — will access and update a shared blockchain ledger containing > all > > the information needed by each organisation. > > > > And each organisation would have access to that information everywhere, > > ensuring complete visibility on where goods are in the world and which > > economic and regulatory hurdles they next need to overcome." > > ( > https://medium.com/cryptoeconomics-australia/outsourcing-vertical-integrati… > ) > > > > > > -- > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > > > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] positioning ourselves in the global civil war
by Michel Bauwens 08 Aug '18

08 Aug '18

that's what we are working on , ain't it ? <g> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:59 AM Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Example today of a wonderfully cooperative open-source dev who got > shat on for a couple of hours by some brogrammers. > > He was amazingly patient trying to get people to be polite, but asking > for politeness from brogrammers signals weakness. > > We have different camps in the cognitive working class. Humans became > humans because they could cooperate better than the alpha male apes. > If this is a shooting war, or even an electronic DOSing war (which I > expect), what is the effective form of organization that will allow > the more-cooperative to survive, along with the planet? > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I read the articles and have been following John Boyd and his acolytes > > (eg John Robb) since the old distributed objects mailing list. > > > > Thinking about how to respond. There's some dissonance with the P2PF > > idea that the "‘cognitive working class is at the forefront of social > > change today..." since the pepes and the bros have a big following > > there. Unless the cognitive working class is at the forefront of the > > global civil war on both sides... > > > > In the meantime, I'd be really interested in more explanation of JB's > > comment below. Esp "the Great Singularity between technology and > > biology" and "the qualitative diversity of decentralized > > alternatives". > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 9:21 PM, <jbquilligan3(a)charter.net> wrote: > >> this is excellent, however, he is dead wrong about the sustainability of > >> innovation during a global war for natural resources and he evidently > knows > >> nothing at all about ecology, which is the modal expression of his > vaunted > >> interactive Digital media > >> > >> yes, we are witnessing the default to decentralization presently, but > the > >> author has no vision whatsoever of the Great Singularity between > technology > >> and biology and for this reason he is unable to see the qualitative > >> diversity of decentralized alternatives > >> > >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------- > >> > >> From: "Michel Bauwens" > >> To: "p2p-foundation" > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 6:27:46AM > >> Subject: positioning ourselves in the global civil war > >> > >> > >> this article by Jordan Greenhall merits a slow, thoughtful and perhaps > more > >> than once, reading, > >> > >> this article about the larved civil war between the 'Blue Church' > >> (neoliberal establishment , including its progressive allies) and the > Red > >> Insurgency (anti-globalist populists) is also a war of epistemologies > and > >> methodlogies. But this begs for a third force, i.e. a progressive use of > >> collective intelligence for fair and sustainable cosmo-local > civilisation. > >> > >> > https://medium.com/deep-code/situational-assessment-2018-the-calm-before-th… > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > >> > >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > >> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > >> > >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] positioning ourselves in the global civil war
by Michel Bauwens 08 Aug '18

08 Aug '18

I think they are on both sides, they are drawn to autonomy and are hesitating between the market and the commons, while the most alienated turn to the alt.right or the identitarian left, not much different from the labour movement and it splits <g> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:25 PM Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I read the articles and have been following John Boyd and his acolytes > (eg John Robb) since the old distributed objects mailing list. > > Thinking about how to respond. There's some dissonance with the P2PF > idea that the "‘cognitive working class is at the forefront of social > change today..." since the pepes and the bros have a big following > there. Unless the cognitive working class is at the forefront of the > global civil war on both sides... > > In the meantime, I'd be really interested in more explanation of JB's > comment below. Esp "the Great Singularity between technology and > biology" and "the qualitative diversity of decentralized > alternatives". > > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 9:21 PM, <jbquilligan3(a)charter.net> wrote: > > this is excellent, however, he is dead wrong about the sustainability of > > innovation during a global war for natural resources and he evidently > knows > > nothing at all about ecology, which is the modal expression of his > vaunted > > interactive Digital media > > > > yes, we are witnessing the default to decentralization presently, but the > > author has no vision whatsoever of the Great Singularity between > technology > > and biology and for this reason he is unable to see the qualitative > > diversity of decentralized alternatives > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > From: "Michel Bauwens" > > To: "p2p-foundation" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 6:27:46AM > > Subject: positioning ourselves in the global civil war > > > > > > this article by Jordan Greenhall merits a slow, thoughtful and perhaps > more > > than once, reading, > > > > this article about the larved civil war between the 'Blue Church' > > (neoliberal establishment , including its progressive allies) and the Red > > Insurgency (anti-globalist populists) is also a war of epistemologies and > > methodlogies. But this begs for a third force, i.e. a progressive use of > > collective intelligence for fair and sustainable cosmo-local > civilisation. > > > > > https://medium.com/deep-code/situational-assessment-2018-the-calm-before-th… > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > > > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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