I think they are on both sides, they are drawn to autonomy and are hesitating between the market and the commons, while the most alienated turn to the alt.right or the identitarian left, not much different from the labour movement and it splits <g> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:25 PM Bob Haugen <[email protected]> wrote:

I read the articles and have been following John Boyd and his acolytes (eg John Robb) since the old distributed objects mailing list.

Thinking about how to respond. There's some dissonance with the P2PF idea that the "‘cognitive working class is at the forefront of social change today..." since the pepes and the bros have a big following there. Unless the cognitive working class is at the forefront of the global civil war on both sides...

In the meantime, I'd be really interested in more explanation of JB's comment below. Esp "the Great Singularity between technology and biology" and "the qualitative diversity of decentralized alternatives".

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 9:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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this is excellent, however, he is dead wrong about the sustainability of innovation during a global war for natural resources and he evidently knows nothing at all about ecology, which is the modal expression of his vaunted interactive Digital media

yes, we are witnessing the default to decentralization presently, but the author has no vision whatsoever of the Great Singularity between technology and biology and for this reason he is unable to see the qualitative diversity of decentralized alternatives

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From: "Michel Bauwens" To: "p2p-foundation" Cc: Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 6:27:46AM Subject: positioning ourselves in the global civil war

this article by Jordan Greenhall merits a slow, thoughtful and perhaps more than once, reading,

this article about the larved civil war between the 'Blue Church' (neoliberal establishment , including its progressive allies) and the Red Insurgency (anti-globalist populists) is also a war of epistemologies and methodlogies. But this begs for a third force, i.e. a progressive use of collective intelligence for fair and sustainable cosmo-local civilisation.

https://medium.com/deep-code/situational-assessment-2018-the-calm-before-the...

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