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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] a short response to queries about the p2p'f workings in WSF
by Orsan Senalp 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

It was 3 years ago may be amongst all others things you do can't remember well; but what you offered was not a support to me, you offered me to be the 'labour person' of the foundation since there was no one intellectually and theory wise good enough at your network. My reply was after saying I appreciated a lot for the offer; was like this: 'for me it is more adequate to be independent from any group or institution, since I was active in autonomous movements' and I had my own projects to build. It was never about any doubt about your intentions or grand strategy to serve the enemy, consciously. What I do address from the beginning is the structural dynamical, political and ideological forces that are several steps ahead. And If there is any one (else then myself - since I know my self better then anyone else) I can trust in the capacity and creativity of being able to see the whole (also enemy grand strategy) and generate reversal perspective, that would have been you. But the networks you encounter, or chose to involve and engage, have put me in doubt several times about your genuine intention. Again, I never accused you or anyone; not even thought of you as CIA agent or anything like that. My doubt has been simply between if you, and others do what you or they do simply for your or their own gains or really for the objectives you or they claim to commit. This doubt is hard to proof but is totally different then what you suggest me to have about you / or others. That is why I would always read your (and others' work) writings, and benefit from them fully; but more then before I would prefer to stay in distance from any organic tie with you, thus the foundation, as I wouldn't with TNI, or similar NGOs, or trade unions, or political parties; where people are experts of appearing idealist and committed to cause while all they do best is to work for themselves as prior and promote them as good. At least, before I stop and out too, should I say i am happy to hear that your precarious days are over finally. Best, Orsan > On 16 Aug 2016, at 14:45, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: > > n fact, you will remember that in a period where most of us and myself included, were suffering from extreme precarity, we still wanted to engage in seeking support for your work ... that you found this offer offensive and proof that I was a rich CIA agent, is your prerogative .. but it also meant that from that moment on, while I would still dialogue, I would keep you with long pole away ...

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Fwd: FYI - One of the biggest crime waves in America isn't what you think it is
by Michel Bauwens 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: N E <ne_atl(a)onebox.com> Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:40 PM Subject: FYI - One of the biggest crime waves in America isn't what you think it is To: Nurul <NE_ATL(a)onebox.com> Hi, Hope you are well. Item of interest FYI if not already seen. Regards, - Nurul --------------------- http://theweek.com/articles/642568/biggest-crime-waves- america-isnt-what-think -- snippet -- "In dollar terms, what group of Americans steals the most from their fellow citizens each year? The answer might surprise you: It's employers, many of whom are committing what's known as wage theft. It's not just about underpaying workers. They're not paying workers what they're legally owed for the labor they put in... ...No one knows exactly how big a problem wage theft is, but in 2012 federal and state agencies recovered $933 million for victims of wage theft. By comparison, all the property taken in all the robberies of all types in 2012, solved or unsolved, amounted to a little under $341 million.." -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: [NetworkedLabour] a short response to queries about the p2p'f workings in WSF
by Orsan Senalp 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

Begin forwarded message: > From: Orsan Senalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> > Date: 16 Aug 2016 14:26:10 GMT+2 > To: Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Daniel Chavez <chavez(a)tni.org>, "networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org" <networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org> > Subject: Re: [NetworkedLabour] a short response to queries about the p2p'f workings in WSF > > (I did start to answer Bob, but turned into collective answer to Kevin, Michel, and Daniel Chavez) > > There is a good negative-example from US conservative-conspiracy websites, they mission them selves to map power networks of what they call 'political LEFT'; meaning 'liberal right'. > > Here their take on Soros' network: > http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589 > > List of all Soros grantees: > http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237 > > Top 150 Soros grantees, from another site on Soros (Soros files): http://sorosfiles.com/soros/2011/10/open-society-institute-top-150-grantees… > > There was also a passage mentioning Elle Baker some where. > > One would wonder if they are mis-informing their conservative base; or is this a simple manipulative class act; targeting liberals by accusing them as 'left', even socialists? > > You will see on the Soros' political network ties drawn from New Economic Thinking to Susan George - to Socialist International - TNI and IPS. > > As an answer to Daniel's question; as you see I am not the one obsessed with the organization you work for. I also worked for it, yet with zero hour contract; and after some critical questioning and not in line articles I wrote my contract ended; never received any other support; until the networked labour event. Will not go into details but as soon as it got clear to some people that I am not going to help recruiting new movements and won't represent the policy and strategy largely designed by management ideas or initiatives on networked labour generated on the list or by me did not get any support; and no one can blame anyone for that. This is how things work; that is the point I am making here. > > Neither P2p-f, nor TNI, nor Soros, Ford, would support or finance any one critically looking at the work they do. Or would go and act independently. I talk TNI, P2p-f, and unions since I know them from inside and from closest look. I wish Kevin, Daniel, Michel, and others could show any sign of public self-criticism: on their policy, politics, organizational, funding frameworks; but it is of course not interesting to talk about these. The most understandable thing, for you guys who tied to these institutions with industrial relational terms. > > This critic is not new, not mine, and not only targets specific individual person or group; this works like this. As piece shared by Roberto argue too; that is also about what is called 'iron cage of oligarchy', or by Bogdanov 'law of minimum' and negative-selection. These dynamics work in a certain way in complex social and natural systems and not we but most of the funders like Soros, Rockefeller, and others posses the expertise on this and apparatus and sources to manage such complexities. > > Kevin, you might, I might, others might sincerely focus on what we believe good and powerful, most relevant so on; but in a matrix we all embedded, without having a bird eye view on what it is we do serving there is a very big chance to serve something else. > > I would remind once more Hilary Wainwright's warning about how their generation served to renewal of capitalism; and how not to fail in that trap again. This all long and boring argumentation aims to contribute in a conscious perspective on this latter problem. > > Orsan > > >>> On 15 Aug 2016, at 20:46, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Daniel Chavez <chavez(a)tni.org> wrote: >>> This is the last comment I will make in response to Orsan's accusations >>> about TNI's supposedly dark side. My apologies for those of you who might >>> not be interested in this type of exchanges. >> >> I don't know anything about TNI, but I do find this type of exchange >> to be interesting. However, I would like to see it evolve in the >> direction of a finer-grained analysis than "were they funded" and "who >> were they funded by". >> >> More like, what did the funders expect to achieve by their funding? >> >> How does that relate to the goals of the funded organization? >> >> Did the funders influence the organization so that it warped the >> organization's behavior? >> >> How did the funding of this organization affect the ecosystem of >> emancipatory movements? (As when the funding of non-threatening >> organizations takes momentum away from, or damages, more threatening >> but possible more necessary organizations...) >> >> (Not that answers to those questions are always knowable.) >> _______________________________________________ >> NetworkedLabour mailing list >> NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org >> http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour

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a short response to queries about the p2p'f workings in WSF
by Michel Bauwens 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

Kevin may yet respond to Orsan queries and the suspicions that the p2p-f is setting the agenda in the WSF and elswhere. My understanding of the events at the WSF is that they were organized by a large team of commoners from different countries but under the impulse originally of Kevin and Elizabetta, who took a personal initiative on this. The process was done entirely openly on hackpads and mailings lists with everyone welcome to contribute which was in the end several dozen people who did a really great job. My understanding is that Orsan did not wish to contribute to these efforts, which was entirely his decision. Kevin asked us to use our server to open a mailing list to help this project. This does not mean that these events were orchestrated in any particular way by the P2P Foundation, though various sympathizers of our work, such as Kevin, will have contributed a lot of time and effort to make it happen, along with many others from other organizations as well as non-affiliated. But here is my take, so that people may understand better how we function in that regard. The questions from Orsan seem to be predicated on a in my view old-fashioned view of conspirational hierarchical organizations that does not reflect our practice. I very emphatically want to declare that there was not a single meeting as p2p-f in which any decisions were made outside of that process on the hackpad and mailing list, and outside of the free dialogue of all the contributors. I was personally not involved at all except for a requested intervention on coops which I did not fullfil for health reasons. so here is a one paragraph summary explanation: "It is important to realize that the p2p-f is an organized network and not a NGO (the 'stichting' is just a legal structure to be able to accept research grants etc ..). As a network , there is no membership but people can self-declare themselves symphatizers and as long as they stay in the broad framework of pluralistic support for p2p and the commons, there will be no objection to it (just as they did with occupy for example). So individuals in our network are free to declare their affiliation to the p2p-f in personal capacity. They may call themselves members or contributors, but there is no formal membership. This does not mean they represent the whole of the network. It also means they are not 'dispatched' by the P2P-F with a specific agenda. In addition, because of the accrued prestige of our work for a decade, we are often asked to add our name to the organizational rosters and sponsors of an event. This is often of mutual benefit and so readily accepted. Here also, it does not mean that the P2P Foundation is necessarily a co-organizer on the ground, though symphatizes may have contributed and collaborated to the event in different fashions. Today, the core group of the p2p-f consists of 6 individuals operating on a shoestring budget, and mostly they are responsible for their own income. We intend at some point to function in a more organizational way but this is still a very emergent practice so far. Most of the time, we operate as a service organization and act upon invitation and requests, this means we are sure that what we are doing is useful for the social movement we support, since they directly reflect their expressed needs." I hope this makes sense, Michel -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] a short response to queries about the p2p'f workings in WSF
by Orsan Senalp 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

Peter, first of all, I don't condemn or accuse directly, but critically question of the limits of work-policy-political activism combination where money comes structurally from the 1%; what would dependent position mean in such cases. You say let's assume for the best and hope for good will of the individuals. I know the details of Lenin's German relations and for how long did it go before and after the revolution, yet even in that case Germany might count on and support Lenin for their calculations in the war with other imperialist block at their eastern front of the war. In today's conjuncture such support I would argue is given with a similar purposes, and/or for other; yet certainly there is no similar revolutionary threat, or politics that can go out of rulers control to pose a turret to Queen's system, in this front. Or, it is there and I am missing that? Orsan > On 15 Aug 2016, at 17:57, peter waterman <peterwaterman1936(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Orsan: > > I have not yet read the document to which you refer. But I am hoping that you are not condemning it - without trial, judge or jury - as 'Guilty by Funding'. This would not be the same as an ad hominem attack. But it would seem to have the similar characteristic of addressing the author/publisher rather than the content. > > Now, I may have here been misunderstanding your argument concerning that P2P document. But I have to say that I am quite exhausted by the assumption that Funding Inevitably Taints. > > There is literature concerning both the funding of NGOs (in the USA), and the Left foundations (internationally) that are presumably dependent on funders. > > The first is, of course, 'The Revolution Will Not Be Funded' which, despite its brilliant title, I seem to recall as allowing that - even in the extreme conditions surrounding such funding in the US - it did not inevitably taint outcomes. > > The other is a study of these progressive international think-tanks by Bill Carroll, which includes the TNI, the GCS Centre in Durban, South Africa, and various others. It's just out and available online for, I think, E. 25. > > So, I would suggest that any further criticism of NGOs, Leftist think tanks, etc, would require first reading these texts, thus adding some empirical and conceptual weight to any evaluation of their operations. > > Finally, did you know that in addition to paying for and facilitating the famous 'sealed train' that brought Lenin back to Russia during WW1, that Lenin also brought with a considerable amount of German Imperial funding. > > Thus suggesting that the 'The Revolution Can be Funded'? > > P > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Orsan Senalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Michel, >> >> This is the outcome of that collaborative effort on the hackpad, of which production professional individuals, which means, whose work in this field in one or another way paid by one or other sources. As for the contributions they made is compensated, according to your own definition the outcome not be peer produced commons [space or politics]: >> http://wiki.remixthecommons.org/images/Final_Program_Commons_Space.pdf >> >> As you can see P2P-f is amongst the organizers and at the end there is the logo of Charles Leopold Mayer Foundation, whose CEO is also on this list and head of Edge funders coalition; which were also organizing commons related event at the WSF. As you declared before this is a 'radical funders' coalition who wish to change the world in a radical way; so commons bade peer production can replace the world they live in; property relations their lives and sociality depends on. And you are/were certain before that they have given to you full autonomy; so can you confirm that in this initiative of 'commons space' Kevin acted with full autonomy from you and P2p foundation; as Elisabetta from Transform; so that collective efforts that could be made in a totally an open and independent from the represented organizations and their funder; in other word any outcome including any radical vision, that would oppose or mismatch with the political properties and policy agenda of the Leopold Mayer and Edge funders' vision or vision of other organizations took part in the production of a wsf agenda for the Commons and commons transition? >> >> Orsan >> >> >> >> >>> On 15 Aug 2016, at 10:20, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: >>> >>> Kevin may yet respond to Orsan queries and the suspicions that the p2p-f is setting the agenda in the WSF and elswhere. >>> >>> My understanding of the events at the WSF is that they were organized by a large team of commoners from different countries but under the impulse originally of Kevin and Elizabetta, who took a personal initiative on this. >>> >>> The process was done entirely openly on hackpads and mailings lists with everyone welcome to contribute which was in the end several dozen people who did a really great job. My understanding is that Orsan did not wish to contribute to these efforts, which was entirely his decision. Kevin asked us to use our server to open a mailing list to help this project. This does not mean that these events were orchestrated in any particular way by the P2P Foundation, though various sympathizers of our work, such as Kevin, will have contributed a lot of time and effort to make it happen, along with many others from other organizations as well as non-affiliated. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> But here is my take, so that people may understand better how we function in that regard. The questions from Orsan seem to be predicated on a in my view old-fashioned view of conspirational hierarchical organizations that does not reflect our practice. >>> >>> I very emphatically want to declare that there was not a single meeting as p2p-f in which any decisions were made outside of that process on the hackpad and mailing list, and outside of the free dialogue of all the contributors. I was personally not involved at all except for a requested intervention on coops which I did not fullfil for health reasons. >>> >>> >>> so here is a one paragraph summary explanation: >>> >>> "It is important to realize that the p2p-f is an organized network and not a NGO (the 'stichting' is just a legal structure to be able to accept research grants etc ..). As a network , there is no membership but people can self-declare themselves symphatizers and as long as they stay in the broad framework of pluralistic support for p2p and the commons, there will be no objection to it (just as they did with occupy for example). So individuals in our network are free to declare their affiliation to the p2p-f in personal capacity. They may call themselves members or contributors, but there is no formal membership. This does not mean they represent the whole of the network. It also means they are not 'dispatched' by the P2P-F with a specific agenda. In addition, because of the accrued prestige of our work for a decade, we are often asked to add our name to the organizational rosters and sponsors of an event. This is often of mutual benefit and so readily accepted. Here also, it does not mean that the P2P Foundation is necessarily a co-organizer on the ground, though symphatizes may have contributed and collaborated to the event in different fashions. Today, the core group of the p2p-f consists of 6 individuals operating on a shoestring budget, and mostly they are responsible for their own income. We intend at some point to function in a more organizational way but this is still a very emergent practice so far. Most of the time, we operate as a service organization and act upon invitation and requests, this means we are sure that what we are doing is useful for the social movement we support, since they directly reflect their expressed needs." >>> >>> I hope this makes sense, >>> >>> Michel >>> >>> -- >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org >>> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetworkedLabour mailing list >>> NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org >>> http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetworkedLabour mailing list >> NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org >> http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour > > > > -- > Click here for Peter's recent writings >

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Fwd: HandBook of Collective Intelligence - Edited by Thomas Malone
by Michel Bauwens 15 Aug '16

15 Aug '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 8:33 PM Subject: HandBook of Collective Intelligence - Edited by Thomas Malone To: "econowmix(a)googlegroups.com" <econowmix(a)googlegroups.com> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/542001/smarter-together/ *" To promote the concept, Malone has now produced The Handbook of Collective Intelligence, a collection of essays on the latest research from such diverse fields as computer science, biology, and organizational behavior. Coedited with Michael Bernstein, SM ’08, PhD ’12, an assistant professor of computer science at Stanford, the book is designed to highlight similarities and foster cross-discipline collaboration. "* *Book of Collective Intelligence* Edited by Thomas Malone, professor of management, and Michael Bernstein, SM ’08, PhD ’12 MIT Press, 2015, $30 -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: [Squares] Street vendors' union members jailed
by Michel Bauwens 15 Aug '16

15 Aug '16

definitely a non-faustian account: https://roarmag.org/magazine/the-street-syndicate-re-organizing-informal-wo… On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:16 PM, peter waterman <peterwaterman1936(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I would like to hear a - preferably Non-Faustian - account of what the > municipality and its mayor are doing to the harmless immigrant street > traders, and how, if at all, the former are responding to the campaign in > defence of the latter. > > Best, > > P > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Orsan <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes she is / was / or never was... Ada Colau, promoted as 15m / PAH >> activist, a commoner. This smells like another proof for the Faustian >> bargain we have been discussing here. >> >> The love of and will for power, or its strong transformative effect on >> the weak human agency, who is more then ready to find all kinds of reasons >> to justify why he or she must hold the power, first and foremost to use it >> against the enemy and smash them, reminds me Tolkien's scene where Boromir >> and Bilbo Baggins - in the lord of the rings - both were attacking on Frodo >> Baggings (Jr.) while a silent scream inside of their head was calling >> 'preciousss'... 'mineee / ours' (generates multiple character disorder). >> Both wants to get back the ring, that rules them all. >> >> If we want to do any good to ourselves and our loved ones we need to get >> rid of the ring, sending it back where it comes from.. >> >> O. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> > On 7 aug. 2016, at 23:37, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > I thought Barcelona was the city with the "radical mayor". What >> happened? >> > >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Orsan <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >> From: Mikifus <mikifus(a)gmail.com> >> >> Date: 5 augustus 2016 22:41:43 CEST >> >> To: squares <squares(a)lists.takethesquare.net> >> >> Subject: [Squares] Street vendors' union members jailed >> >> Reply-To: squares(a)lists.takethesquare.net >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> You may have heard of the street vendors' union in Barcelona which >> fights >> >> for the rights of this collective. I am not completelly aware of the >> context >> >> but basically the city's most classist powers have come together and >> are >> >> succesfully bullying street vendors with the complicity of the city >> hall. >> >> >> >> Now they went a step further and are jailing people without any real >> >> charges. More details on the article. >> >> >> >> Please help us share this information to get signatures from >> individuals and >> >> organizations abroad. >> >> >> >> English article: >> >> https://traslamanta.wordpress.com/2016/08/05/break-the-silen >> ce-surrounding-injustice-freedom-for-the-barcelona-street-vendors/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Note: n-1 has been taken down. The group there is now unavailable. >> >> >> >> Squares mailing list >> >> Squares(a)lists.takethesquare.net >> >> for unsubscribe/etc: >> >> https://lists.takethesquare.net/mailman/listinfo/squares or >> >> Squares-owner(a)lists.takethesquare.net >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> NetworkedLabour mailing list >> >> NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org >> >> http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetworkedLabour mailing list >> NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org >> http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour >> > > > > -- > *Click here for Peter's recent writings* > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8s52g2y905rq6w/WatermanGmailSignaturePanel%20%20…> > > > _______________________________________________ > NetworkedLabour mailing list > NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org > http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: [NetworkedLabour] How Working Class In Vienna Solved Their Housing Crisis-Make The Rich Pay For Working Class Housing
by Michel Bauwens 15 Aug '16

15 Aug '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Zeltzer <lvpsf(a)igc.org> Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 4:24 AM Subject: [NetworkedLabour] How Working Class In Vienna Solved Their Housing Crisis-Make The Rich Pay For Working Class Housing To: "networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org" <networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org > How Working Class In Vienna Solved Their Housing Crisis-Make The Rich Pay For Working Class Housing https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=ckSBfWud7L0 Professor Irmi Voglmayr from Vienna University discusses the history and role of working class public housing in Vienna, Austria. The working class in Vienna had a massive housing crisis in 1919 and solved it with the construction over a number of years of 220,000 units which still exist today This presentation was made in San Francisco on July 18, 2016 as part of LaborFest.net Additional media: https://www.wien.gv.at/english/housing/promotion/pdf/socialhous.pdf Production of Labor Video Project www.laborvideo.org _______________________________________________ NetworkedLabour mailing list NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: Millions Spent, No One Served: Who Is to Blame for the Failure of GM Golden Rice?
by Michel Bauwens 15 Aug '16

15 Aug '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jonathan Latham <jrlatham(a)bioscienceresource.org> Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:04 AM Subject: Millions Spent, No One Served: Who Is to Blame for the Failure of GM Golden Rice? To: bsr-PROJECT-ELIST1(a)gn.apc.org Dear Friends and Colleagues Published today (Monday 15th August 2016) by *Independent Science News*. *Millions Spent, No One Served: Who Is to Blame for the Failure of GM Golden Rice?* by Dr Angelika Hilbeck and Dr Hans R. Herren https://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/millions-spent-who-is- to-blame-failure-gmo-golden-rice/ *Synopsis:* The recent Nobel laureates’ letter accusing Greenpeace of a “crime against humanity” for opposing genetically modified (GMO) golden rice is revealing of the current state of science. As we see it, there is a deep division between scientists who have a vision of a common future versus those who are disconnected from the people whom science is supposed to serve. This division is perfectly exemplified by the letter. Over 100 Nobel prizewinners with minimal experience of agriculture or poverty are apparently unaware of the practical, legal, and conceptual problems of golden rice. Apparently, they do not realise that the ony thing Greenpeace has contributed to the failure of golden rice is expose it to public view. The Authors are: Dr Angelika Hilbeck, Chair, European Network of Scientists for Social and Environmental Responsibility (ENSSER <http://www.ensser.org>). Dr. Hans R Herren, Agronomist/Entomologist (ETHZ) who worked in agricultural research and development for 27 years in Africa. He was Co-Chair, International Assessment of Agricultural Science and Technology for Development (IAASTD <http://www.agassessment.org>). Please share and enjoy this article. Apologies for cross-posting. Jonathan Latham, PhD Executive Director The Bioscience Resource Project Ithaca, NY 14850 USA www.independentsciencenews.org and www.bioscienceresource.org jrlatham(a)bioscienceresource.org Skype: jonathanlatham2 Tel: 1-607-319-0279 “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”—Edward Bernays, Propaganda _______________________________________________ BSR-project-elist1 mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/bsr-project- elist1 To unsubscribe, email bsr-project-elist1-unsubscribe(a)gn.apc.org -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Reformist or radical
by Michel Bauwens 14 Aug '16

14 Aug '16

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ..."two basic social structures: the domination model and the > partnership model". Eisler "shows how the tension between these two models > has shaped history, and how the outcome of this tension is key to > fulfillment or extinction for our species." Some more info via https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Partnership_Model_of_Society Interview[edit <https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/index.php?title=Partnership_Model_of_Society…> ] The interview was conducted by Cecilia Gingerich for The Next System Project: - "CG: *In your work you describe moving to a “partnership system.” Can you briefly describe what a partnership system is?* RE: The method I used in my research, the study of relational dynamics, differs from other approaches in a number of critical respects. It draws from a much larger database than most studies of society: it includes the whole of humanity (both its male and female halves), the whole of our history (including prehistory), and the whole of our lives (not only the public spheres of politics and economics, but also the private spheres of family and other intimate relations). It focuses on two systems dynamics; First: What is the relationship between key elements of a social system in maintaining or altering the system’s basic character? And second: What kinds of relationships – from intimate to international – does a social system support: top down ranking or relations based on mutuality? This methodology revealed two underlying social patterns or configurations: the partnership model and the domination model. These new social categories transcend conventional ones such as right vs. left, religious vs. secular, ancient vs. modern, capitalist vs. socialist, and so on – which focus only on particular aspects of a system and pay scant, if any, attention to the cultural construction of the primary human relations between the female and male halves of humanity and between them and their daughters and sons. The partnership model and the domination model have two very different core configurations. In contrast to domination systems, where there is top-down authoritarian rule in both the family and state or tribe, partnership systems have democracy and equality in both the family and state or tribe. Unlike domination systems, where the male half of humanity is ranked over the female half, in partnership systems there is gender equity, and with this, a greater valuing of “feminine” traits and activities such as caring, caregiving, and nonviolence – in both women and men as well as in social and economic policy. Whereas domination systems are ultimately held together by fear, force, and the threat of pain, partnership systems are based on mutuality; there are hierarchies, but rather than hierarchies of domination, these are hierarchies of actualization where power is empowering rather than disempowering and accountability, respect, and benefits flow both ways, rather than just from the bottom up. These configurations or models are the two ends of a partnership-domination continuum, as no society is a pure partnership or domination model. But the degree of orientation to either end of this continuum makes for very different social systems. For example, Nazi Germany (secular, Western) and Khomeini’s Iran and ISIL (religious, Eastern) orient closely to the domination model. The Minangkabau (religious, Eastern) and Nordic nations (secular, Western) orient to the partnership model." *...* ** CG: Can you spend a bit more time describing how a partnership system would address current environmental issues, and particularly climate change?* RE: Both capitalist and socialist theory fail to recognize the value of caring for nature. The applications of socialism in both the former Soviet Union and China have been characterized by environmental disasters. In other words, it is not just unregulated capitalism that has been bad for our natural environment. By contrast, caring for people and for nature is highly valued in partnership systems, and these values would inform policies. For example, high taxes would be levied on activities that create carbon emissions and there would be tax credits for companies that protect our natural life support system, such as manufacturing that recycles. Keeping a clean and healthy environment in both our homes and our planet would be highly valued. So would caring for people, which would be honored as both men’s and women’s work. The pejorative “nanny state” would be recognized as sexist and absurd. ** CG: How quickly could large domination-oriented societies like the United States and China transition to a partnership-oriented society? Could the change occur quickly enough to address some of the major “tipping points” for climate change, which climate scientists expect to occur in the next several decades?* RE: To achieve this, we have to recognize that the devaluation of caring for people and for nature is deeply rooted in the system of gendered valuations we have inherited. Unless we make this visible we will not see fundamental change. This is why an important part of the partnership political agenda is to bring partnership education into schools and universities. Many people recognize that old thinking cannot help us solve the problems it created. Young people are especially hungry for a new paradigm, a new way of looking at the world and living in it. If they are to be effective agents of change, starting now, they need to recognize beliefs, myths, and stories that promote domination or partnership, and learn the terrible consequences of domination and the benefits of partnership. *...* ** CG: Are there any specific economic elements that are necessary for a partnership system in a post-industrial country? (markets, money, etc.)* RE: Systemic change requires both cultural and institutional or structural change, especially in economics. To achieve this, we need a new economic map. The old economic map fails to recognize the contributions of the three unpaid economic sectors: the household economy, the community volunteer economy, and the natural economy. My book The Real Wealth of Nations introduces a new economic map that – along with the market, government, and illegal economies – includes these essential economic sectors. This integrative map is the foundation for a partnership economic system that recognizes that the real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of people and nature. ** CG: Can you explain to us the importance of economic indicators, and specifically the Social Wealth Economic Indicators (SWEIs) that you have developed at the Center for Partnership Studies?* RE: The main economic indicator policy makers rely on today is GDP or Gross Domestic Product. It is a strange indicator. It includes activities that harm and take life. Selling cigarettes and the medical and funeral costs of smoking boost GDP; so do oil spills, since cleanup, litigation, and their other costs augment GDP. But GDP fails to include activities essential to support life, such as the work in households of caring for people, starting in early childhood, even though without it there would be no workforce. GDP also gives no value to caring for our natural life-support systems, without which we could not survive. The “informal” work carried out principally by women makes up a large proportion of the U.S. economy. Social Wealth Economic Indicators (SWEIs) are unique tools for both progressive policy makers and advocates for a more equitable and environmentally sustainable society. They differ not only from GDP but also from most other GDP alternatives by demonstrating the enormous economic value of caring for people and nature. For example, a recent Australian study showed that if the work of caring for people in households were included in GDP, it would add 50% to it. SWEIs also pay much more attention to gender than other GDP alternatives. For instance, they reveal the link between the disproportionate poverty of women and the lack of policies that support the care work still primarily performed by them. Also unlike other GDP alternatives, SWEIs not only measure outputs (where a nation stands in its quality of life); it pays equal attention to inputs: what kinds of investments lead to better outcomes. SWEIs show that the United States lags way behind other developed nations in its public support for early childhood care and education. This is a major factor in our high poverty rates. It also means that we are not adequately investing in creating the “high quality human capital” economists tell us is essential for success in our post-industrial, knowledge/service age. ** CG: How might a partnership system in a post-industrial country deal with currently unpaid work, including unpaid care work?* RE: There are policies already in place in other developed nations – from publicly funded paid parental leave to stipends to help families with children and refundable tax credits for caregivers of the elderly. Our county has to catch up! So also do poorer nations, which is why we are seeking funding to adapt SWEIs into a global Index: one number per nation, like GDP. The combination of overpopulation (due to denying women reproductive freedom) and resources depletion makes a shift from the present market consumer-driven economics essential. This shift is also essential because we are entering an era of structural unemployment and underemployment due to a massive technological shift. A guaranteed annual income or negative income tax where people are given monetary stipends is one response to the replacement of human workers by automation and robotics – trends that will exponentially increase with the advent of artificial intelligence. The response I propose in The Real Wealth of Nations is linking this monetary support to the work that only humans can perform: caring, caregiving, creating. People need meaningful work to be fulfilled, and just handing out money does not encourage positive contributions." ( http://thenextsystem.org/riane-eisler-on-changing-the-whole-system/) -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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