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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Into the digital void? – International Socialism
by Anna Harris 19 Oct '16

19 Oct '16

Orsan, I think what you are saying here links with the question Bob raised about agroecology on small scale farms, as the answer to corporate industrial agriculture. What is the difference and why is it so important? It is clear that on small scale farms there is a possibility, even a tendency, towards a relationship to the soil, the livestock, the crops, and the environment. This profound connection raises the consciousness of those involved, so that they tend to feel protective of the resources they use, and respect the natural environment. This connection can address the alienation experienced by most of us when we remain totally cut off from where our food comes from, and how it is grown. This is not just a question of information, knowing the name of the farmer etc, but also a feeling of care which can be communicated by 'home grown' vegetables, or farmers markets. This is not to say that we should not use automation where appropriate on small scale farms. But we need to recognise that the earth is our home, and should be treated with some reverence. When we harm the soil with fertilisers, weed killers and insecticides, we are killing our home. > On 18 Oct 2016, at 00:07, Orsan Senalp <orsan1234(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > It is not surprising that in this, grounded critics of digital capitalism by Upchurch, in an SWP comm tool, overlooks, as its targeted perspectives, namely 'consciousness-ideology-alienation-hegemony' dimensions in the whole thing. I think it is time to put forward such critics instead of trying to grasp only the objective aspects of the issue. In my opinion the letter, subjective aspect is as important and vital the objective aspects as we want to not only understand but also change the reality imposed and steered by the capital. > Orsan > > >> On 17 okt. 2016, at 09:13, peter waterman <peterwaterman1936(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I may have previously posted this item, or another version of such. >> >> However, I don't mind re-posting it in so far as it seems to be a major Marxist (not to mention Trotskyist or SWP) position on the matter. >> >> My feeling is that it is over-determinist. Or that it's pessimism of the intellect is unbalanced by an optimism of the will? >> >> Or, again, that the author does not recognise 1) the technological quantum leap that ICT represents (Castells compares it to the invention of the alphabet, not the steam-engine), nor 2) the contradictory nature of ICT. >> >> So, finally, I would appreciate other - better qualified - opinions on the matter. >> >> Pw >> >> >> http://isj.org.uk/into-the-digital-void/ >> _______________________________________________ >> NetworkedLabour mailing list >> NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org >> http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour > _______________________________________________ > NetworkedLabour mailing list > NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org > http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour

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Re: [P2P-F] AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE ORGANIC INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT
by Michel Bauwens 18 Oct '16

18 Oct '16

hi david, I'm still travelling, so I can only provide details after 25/10 but essentiallly for me a phyle is a trans-national business eco-system for a community and its commons for me las indias, enspiral, sensorica, ethos VO go in that direction ... On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM, David de Ugarte <david(a)lasindias.coop> wrote: > Great Michael! > > So... it could be interesting to have a common, and a little bit detailed, > definition of phyle understanding proto-phyle as all the nucleus going in > that direction. > > Would you make the honours? :-D > > On 2016-10-18 14:03, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > personally, I am talking about some coordination and cooperation between > proto-phyles ... > > coordinating commons-based production is a different topic, equally > interesting but this was not the topic of the original invite, > > of course, phyles could <also> coordinate their production, if they were > more fully developed etc .. > > Michel > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:58 PM, David de Ugarte <david(a)lasindias.coop> > wrote: > >> Ah! OK, this is about coordinating commons based projects, not about >> phyle making. So, the question should be then how phyle nucleus as ours, >> can contribute to these movement towards territorial coordination of >> commons based projects, Am I right? >> >> We agree with that idea/project and we will give our best to it, no >> doubt. But, please lets use the word phyle with its meaning. From its very >> origins the phyle idea had a very concrete goal: to create an alternative >> to national identity able to complement the fading (¿collapsing?) welfare >> state and take responsibility for its own members (social security, health, >> guarantee of job and trade inside, safety and freedom of movements, etc.) >> what made mandatory to the few phyle nucleus existing then, to have a >> presence and a real autonomy in the open market while constructing a >> money-free economy in its interior. >> >> >> >> On 2016-10-18 12:58, David de Ugarte wrote: >> >> Great thanks to you both!!! >> >> On 2016-10-18 12:57, Stacco Troncoso wrote: >> >> Here's the Commons Association text in our blog, if you don't like PDFs ;) >> >> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/unifying-commons-based-projec >> ts-in-a-self-organised-solidarity-economy/2016/09/09 >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You all might find the pdfs below to be relevant: >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Christian Siefkes via Commonsverbuende >>> <commonsverbuende(a)lists.commons-institut.org> >>> Date: 2016-10-18 5:06 GMT-05:00 >>> Subject: Re: [commonsverbuende] Commons Associations jetzt auch in >>> Englisch >>> To: commonsverbuende(a)lists.commons-institut.org >>> >>> >>> Hallo Hannes und alle, >>> >>> On 08/10/16 15:41, Christian Siefkes via Commonsverbuende wrote: >>> > OK, ich werde PDFs erzeugen und hochladen und dann hier nochmal >>> Bescheid sagen. >>> >>> ich habe die PDfs jetzt erstellt und bei Keimform hochgeladen. Sie sind >>> vom >>> deutsch- bzw. englischsprachigen Artikel aus verlinkt oder direkt unter >>> folgenden URLs zu finden: >>> >>> Deutsch: http://keimform.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/commonsverbund >>> .pdf >>> Englisch: http://keimform.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/commons-associ >>> ation.pdf >>> >>> Herzliche Grüße >>> Christian >>> >>> -- >>> |--------- Dr. Christian Siefkes --------- christian(a)siefkes.net >>> --------- >>> | Homepage: http://www.siefkes.net/ | Blog: >>> http://www.keimform.de/ >>> | Wie Produktion zur Nebensache wurde: www.keimform.de/2013/freie-que >>> llen-1/ >>> | Why Production No Longer Worries Us: www.keimform.de/2013/free-sour >>> ces-1/ >>> |------------------------------------------- OpenPGP Key ID: 0x980FA6ED >>> -- >>> Was darf die Satire? >>> Alles. >>> -- Kurt Tucholsky >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Commonsverbuende mailing list >>> Commonsverbuende(a)lists.commons-institut.org >>> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commonsverbuende >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Responses inline. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:06 AM, David de Ugarte <david(a)lasindias.coop> >>> wrote: >>> >> Dear Bob, >>> >> >>> >> it is a really interesting theoretical approach but... I guess we are >>> still >>> >> far from the point when we could attend basic consumption demands. >>> The real >>> >> existing fabric of p2p production is unproportionally based in >>> services (as >>> >> it is natural because p2p production was born in the digital economy). >>> > >>> > I am aware it's mostly services now, except for food, which could be a >>> > place to start on material goods, at least in regional networks. >>> > >>> > Software, however, is the heart of p2p production now, and that is not >>> > coordinated very well between groups or often not even within groups. >>> > The Mutual Aid Networks, for example, use several apps that do not >>> > talk to each other. And several Mutual Aid Networks are starting up, >>> > that will multiply the same problem. Same for Fair Coop. >>> > >>> > Designs for material goods is another possibility. >>> > >>> >> Increasing diversity of production is today a trend and a goal, but I >>> guess >>> >> diversity is not still big enough even for supporting a viable >>> productive >>> >> coin. >>> >> >>> >> Because of it, from the very beggining we envisioned mutualism as the >>> path >>> >> of making phyles grow inside a wider vision we call post-laborism. >>> Please >>> >> have a look to this post (you will probably have to use google >>> translate) >>> >> >>> >> https://lasindias.com/post-laborismo >>> > >>> > Thanks, will study. >>> > >>> >> On 2016-10-16 11:56, Bob Haugen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry, cutnpaste error. Should have been section entitled "How we can >>> >>> implement a Mutual Coordination Economy based on existing >>> >>> organizations". >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> then see from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of >>> >>>>> alignment between 'proto-phyles' >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could this be it? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capit >>> alist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> See the section entitled >>> >>>> >>> >>>> "https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capi >>> talist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-econo >>> my/2016/02/10" >>> >>>> and my comment below: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capit >>> alist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-econom >>> y/2016/02/10#comment-1551200 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Michel Bauwens >>> >>>> <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> dear David, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I have great difficulties lately to monitor my emails, 5755 to go >>> <g>, >>> >>>>> and >>> >>>>> so I missed this important response, and the ones following which >>> I will >>> >>>>> process in a moment. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> The first thing for me, is perhaps that we can organize a common >>> skype >>> >>>>> with >>> >>>>> joshua vial / Alanna Krause for Enspiral, Robert Pye for Ethos, >>> you and >>> >>>>> Natalia for lasindias, tibi from Sensorica, perhaps others ? And >>> then >>> >>>>> see >>> >>>>> from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of alignment >>> >>>>> between >>> >>>>> 'proto-phyles' >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I copy Ann-Marie for the p2p foundation, for assistance in >>> coordinating >>> >>>>> any >>> >>>>> such meetup if there is agreement on doing it. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Since the previous email in this thread is an email from our >>> recently >>> >>>>> deceased P2P colleague Jean Lievens, I am sharing a special >>> thought in >>> >>>>> his >>> >>>>> remembrance, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Michel >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:12 PM, David de Ugarte < >>> david(a)lasindias.coop> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> We completely agree!! >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> It is a nodal moment because this convergence, I guess, reflects a >>> >>>>>> deepening concern in wide social sectors. In our case, we are >>> >>>>>> experiencing >>> >>>>>> since October's Somero a widening of our audience and a closer >>> >>>>>> relation >>> >>>>>> with other communities. Last week, in example, we had by first >>> time in >>> >>>>>> many >>> >>>>>> years, more than 10.000 unique visitors in our blog in only a >>> day, and >>> >>>>>> the >>> >>>>>> Communard Manifesto is spreading a lot faster than we thought: >>> there >>> >>>>>> are in >>> >>>>>> example volunteers -we did not know before- translating it in >>> >>>>>> Switzerland >>> >>>>>> and Portugal to German and Portuguese languages. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> So, we are sensing not only the appearance of a «P2P theoritical >>> camp», >>> >>>>>> but the emergence of a «P2P audience» probably product of the >>> >>>>>> disenchanted >>> >>>>>> with the political hopes hegemonic only a year ago between the >>> majority >>> >>>>>> of >>> >>>>>> the activists in countries like Spain or Greece. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> So, Michel, what comes now? How could we contribute? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On 2016-05-21 22:06, Michel Bauwens wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE >>> >>>>>> ORGANIC >>> >>>>>> INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> The above has always been the ambition of the P2P Foundation, and >>> I >>> >>>>>> believe this is now coalescing .. some signs >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 1) Las Indias has consolidated all its original insights in the >>> just >>> >>>>>> published Communard Manifesto (Steve Herrick: you can perhaps let >>> them >>> >>>>>> know >>> >>>>>> about this posting here as they are not on fb) >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 2) the last video by Dmytri Kleiner, which I posted here, also >>> shows a >>> >>>>>> convergence towards this multi-modal approach (working for the >>> >>>>>> strengthening >>> >>>>>> of the new economy within the existing one) and has a very precise >>> >>>>>> strategy >>> >>>>>> and many innovative concepts >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 3) the critique by Alanna Krause on the blockchain which I >>> posited, >>> >>>>>> along >>> >>>>>> with the 'transvestment' practices, show that both the practice, >>> and >>> >>>>>> the >>> >>>>>> theory, and the subjectivity of Enspiral is moving in the same >>> >>>>>> direction >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 4) as for myself, I am working on a more theoretical book in >>> which I'm >>> >>>>>> aligning all our pasts insights following the overview of Kojin >>> >>>>>> Karatini .. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I may be forgetting some other elements, but here we are, there is >>> >>>>>> effectively, a collective organic intellectual at work, which is >>> >>>>>> thinking >>> >>>>>> through the strategies to be followed by the forces of the >>> commons, in >>> >>>>>> a way >>> >>>>>> that may have been there in seed form, but is about to flower and >>> .. >>> >>>>>> THIS IS >>> >>>>>> HUGELY IMPORTANT >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I am not implying here of course that there are no differences >>> between >>> >>>>>> the >>> >>>>>> approaches of these groups, but that they are moving broadly in >>> the >>> >>>>>> same >>> >>>>>> direction . >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> At present, there are not any formal bridges between these >>> groups, but >>> >>>>>> there are occasional informal contacts, and the memes do seem to >>> travel >>> >>>>>> .. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> With Dmytri Kleiner, we are discussing a 'Transvestment' >>> conference in >>> >>>>>> Berlin at the end of this year, no funding yet, this could be an >>> >>>>>> occasion >>> >>>>>> for these groups to enter into more coherent dialogue, >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Michel >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>> >>>>>> http://commonstransition.org >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>> >>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-comp >>> lete-list/ >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>> >>>>> http://commonstransition.org >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>> >>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Strategic direction steward P2P Foundation <http://p2pfoundation.net/>. >> Director of content commonstransition.org >> Co-founder guerrillatranslation.org >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: > http://commonstransition.org > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ > > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE ORGANIC INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT
by Michel Bauwens 18 Oct '16

18 Oct '16

personally, I am talking about some coordination and cooperation between proto-phyles ... coordinating commons-based production is a different topic, equally interesting but this was not the topic of the original invite, of course, phyles could <also> coordinate their production, if they were more fully developed etc .. Michel On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:58 PM, David de Ugarte <david(a)lasindias.coop> wrote: > Ah! OK, this is about coordinating commons based projects, not about phyle > making. So, the question should be then how phyle nucleus as ours, can > contribute to these movement towards territorial coordination of commons > based projects, Am I right? > > We agree with that idea/project and we will give our best to it, no doubt. > But, please lets use the word phyle with its meaning. From its very origins > the phyle idea had a very concrete goal: to create an alternative to > national identity able to complement the fading (¿collapsing?) welfare > state and take responsibility for its own members (social security, health, > guarantee of job and trade inside, safety and freedom of movements, etc.) > what made mandatory to the few phyle nucleus existing then, to have a > presence and a real autonomy in the open market while constructing a > money-free economy in its interior. > > > > On 2016-10-18 12:58, David de Ugarte wrote: > > Great thanks to you both!!! > > On 2016-10-18 12:57, Stacco Troncoso wrote: > > Here's the Commons Association text in our blog, if you don't like PDFs ;) > > https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/unifying-commons-based- > projects-in-a-self-organised-solidarity-economy/2016/09/09 > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> You all might find the pdfs below to be relevant: >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Christian Siefkes via Commonsverbuende >> <commonsverbuende(a)lists.commons-institut.org> >> Date: 2016-10-18 5:06 GMT-05:00 >> Subject: Re: [commonsverbuende] Commons Associations jetzt auch in >> Englisch >> To: commonsverbuende(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> >> >> Hallo Hannes und alle, >> >> On 08/10/16 15:41, Christian Siefkes via Commonsverbuende wrote: >> > OK, ich werde PDFs erzeugen und hochladen und dann hier nochmal >> Bescheid sagen. >> >> ich habe die PDfs jetzt erstellt und bei Keimform hochgeladen. Sie sind >> vom >> deutsch- bzw. englischsprachigen Artikel aus verlinkt oder direkt unter >> folgenden URLs zu finden: >> >> Deutsch: http://keimform.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/commonsverbund.pdf >> Englisch: http://keimform.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/commons-associ >> ation.pdf >> >> Herzliche Grüße >> Christian >> >> -- >> |--------- Dr. Christian Siefkes --------- christian(a)siefkes.net >> --------- >> | Homepage: http://www.siefkes.net/ | Blog: >> http://www.keimform.de/ >> | Wie Produktion zur Nebensache wurde: www.keimform.de/2013/freie-que >> llen-1/ >> | Why Production No Longer Worries Us: www.keimform.de/2013/free-sour >> ces-1/ >> |------------------------------------------- OpenPGP Key ID: 0x980FA6ED >> -- >> Was darf die Satire? >> Alles. >> -- Kurt Tucholsky >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Commonsverbuende mailing list >> Commonsverbuende(a)lists.commons-institut.org >> https://lists.schokokeks.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/commonsverbuende >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Responses inline. >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:06 AM, David de Ugarte <david(a)lasindias.coop> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Bob, >> >> >> >> it is a really interesting theoretical approach but... I guess we are >> still >> >> far from the point when we could attend basic consumption demands. The >> real >> >> existing fabric of p2p production is unproportionally based in >> services (as >> >> it is natural because p2p production was born in the digital economy). >> > >> > I am aware it's mostly services now, except for food, which could be a >> > place to start on material goods, at least in regional networks. >> > >> > Software, however, is the heart of p2p production now, and that is not >> > coordinated very well between groups or often not even within groups. >> > The Mutual Aid Networks, for example, use several apps that do not >> > talk to each other. And several Mutual Aid Networks are starting up, >> > that will multiply the same problem. Same for Fair Coop. >> > >> > Designs for material goods is another possibility. >> > >> >> Increasing diversity of production is today a trend and a goal, but I >> guess >> >> diversity is not still big enough even for supporting a viable >> productive >> >> coin. >> >> >> >> Because of it, from the very beggining we envisioned mutualism as the >> path >> >> of making phyles grow inside a wider vision we call post-laborism. >> Please >> >> have a look to this post (you will probably have to use google >> translate) >> >> >> >> https://lasindias.com/post-laborismo >> > >> > Thanks, will study. >> > >> >> On 2016-10-16 11:56, Bob Haugen wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Sorry, cutnpaste error. Should have been section entitled "How we can >> >>> implement a Mutual Coordination Economy based on existing >> >>> organizations". >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> then see from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of >> >>>>> alignment between 'proto-phyles' >> >>>> >> >>>> Could this be it? >> >>>> >> >>>> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capit >> alist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10 >> >>>> >> >>>> See the section entitled >> >>>> >> >>>> "https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capi >> talist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10 >> " >> >>>> and my comment below: >> >>>> >> >>>> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capit >> alist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination- >> economy/2016/02/10#comment-1551200 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Michel Bauwens >> >>>> <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> dear David, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I have great difficulties lately to monitor my emails, 5755 to go >> <g>, >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> so I missed this important response, and the ones following which I >> will >> >>>>> process in a moment. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The first thing for me, is perhaps that we can organize a common >> skype >> >>>>> with >> >>>>> joshua vial / Alanna Krause for Enspiral, Robert Pye for Ethos, you >> and >> >>>>> Natalia for lasindias, tibi from Sensorica, perhaps others ? And >> then >> >>>>> see >> >>>>> from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of alignment >> >>>>> between >> >>>>> 'proto-phyles' >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I copy Ann-Marie for the p2p foundation, for assistance in >> coordinating >> >>>>> any >> >>>>> such meetup if there is agreement on doing it. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Since the previous email in this thread is an email from our >> recently >> >>>>> deceased P2P colleague Jean Lievens, I am sharing a special thought >> in >> >>>>> his >> >>>>> remembrance, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Michel >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:12 PM, David de Ugarte < >> david(a)lasindias.coop> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> We completely agree!! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> It is a nodal moment because this convergence, I guess, reflects a >> >>>>>> deepening concern in wide social sectors. In our case, we are >> >>>>>> experiencing >> >>>>>> since October's Somero a widening of our audience and a closer >> >>>>>> relation >> >>>>>> with other communities. Last week, in example, we had by first >> time in >> >>>>>> many >> >>>>>> years, more than 10.000 unique visitors in our blog in only a day, >> and >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> Communard Manifesto is spreading a lot faster than we thought: >> there >> >>>>>> are in >> >>>>>> example volunteers -we did not know before- translating it in >> >>>>>> Switzerland >> >>>>>> and Portugal to German and Portuguese languages. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> So, we are sensing not only the appearance of a «P2P theoritical >> camp», >> >>>>>> but the emergence of a «P2P audience» probably product of the >> >>>>>> disenchanted >> >>>>>> with the political hopes hegemonic only a year ago between the >> majority >> >>>>>> of >> >>>>>> the activists in countries like Spain or Greece. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> So, Michel, what comes now? How could we contribute? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 2016-05-21 22:06, Michel Bauwens wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE >> >>>>>> ORGANIC >> >>>>>> INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The above has always been the ambition of the P2P Foundation, and I >> >>>>>> believe this is now coalescing .. some signs >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 1) Las Indias has consolidated all its original insights in the >> just >> >>>>>> published Communard Manifesto (Steve Herrick: you can perhaps let >> them >> >>>>>> know >> >>>>>> about this posting here as they are not on fb) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2) the last video by Dmytri Kleiner, which I posted here, also >> shows a >> >>>>>> convergence towards this multi-modal approach (working for the >> >>>>>> strengthening >> >>>>>> of the new economy within the existing one) and has a very precise >> >>>>>> strategy >> >>>>>> and many innovative concepts >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 3) the critique by Alanna Krause on the blockchain which I posited, >> >>>>>> along >> >>>>>> with the 'transvestment' practices, show that both the practice, >> and >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> theory, and the subjectivity of Enspiral is moving in the same >> >>>>>> direction >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 4) as for myself, I am working on a more theoretical book in which >> I'm >> >>>>>> aligning all our pasts insights following the overview of Kojin >> >>>>>> Karatini .. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I may be forgetting some other elements, but here we are, there is >> >>>>>> effectively, a collective organic intellectual at work, which is >> >>>>>> thinking >> >>>>>> through the strategies to be followed by the forces of the >> commons, in >> >>>>>> a way >> >>>>>> that may have been there in seed form, but is about to flower and >> .. >> >>>>>> THIS IS >> >>>>>> HUGELY IMPORTANT >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I am not implying here of course that there are no differences >> between >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> approaches of these groups, but that they are moving broadly in the >> >>>>>> same >> >>>>>> direction . >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> At present, there are not any formal bridges between these groups, >> but >> >>>>>> there are occasional informal contacts, and the memes do seem to >> travel >> >>>>>> .. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> With Dmytri Kleiner, we are discussing a 'Transvestment' >> conference in >> >>>>>> Berlin at the end of this year, no funding yet, this could be an >> >>>>>> occasion >> >>>>>> for these groups to enter into more coherent dialogue, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Michel >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>>>>> http://commonstransition.org >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>>>> http://commonstransition.org >> >>>>> >> >>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>>>> >> >>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > > Strategic direction steward P2P Foundation <http://p2pfoundation.net/>. > Director of content commonstransition.org > Co-founder guerrillatranslation.org > > > > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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first peer-reviewed study of peer production communities
by Michel Bauwens 18 Oct '16

18 Oct '16

HOLD ALL YOUR HORSES, Adam Arvidsson's (et al.) analysis of 3 years of P2P Value research, with the P2P Foundation as one of the 8 partners, has been published: https://www.academia.edu/…/Commons_Based_Peer_Production_in… <https://www.academia.edu/29210209/Commons_Based_Peer_Production_in_the_Info…> Amongst the conclusions , ONE, " CBPP is part of a broader transformation in the information economy whereby collaboration and common knowledge have come to play an ever more important part in value creation. This development has roots that go back to the industrial revolution in the 19th century and it has been greatly accelerated by the diffusion of digital media. CBPP or CBPP like modes of production have become a core component to the contemporary information economy as a whole." Conclusion 2: CBPP occurs in highly particular kinds of communities. They are not kept together by frequent interaction or a tight web of social relations. Instead they are kept together by sharing a common imaginary that posits a transformative potential on the part of the particular practice to which these communities are dedicated. Conclusion 3: Contributions to this potential through technical skills and/or virtuous conduct is rewarded with reputation. Reputation is the form of that exchange value takes in CBPP communities, it is the 'fictious commodity' typical to CBPP. Reputation is also the most important value form that structures transactions between CBPP and other institutional logics, such as that of markets, capitalism and the state. Conclusion 4: The value of reputation lies in its ability to give a proximate measure to risk.The fact that value is principally related to risk means that CBPP communities operate a value logic that mirror that of financial markets. first comments by myself: hi Adam, I hope this is close to the uncensored version I've read <g>; GREAT ANALYSYS that was, hoping to re-read it in this version 1) the fact that these are imaginary communities is very important, since this echoes the emergence of the nation state (benedict anderson) 2) reputation is part of a new value regime, even if it mirrors what financial markets are doing very badly 3) in the other document, you wrote that 85% of studied communities practices new forms of contributory accounting, also a very strong sign of new value regimes (see the book 'double entry' for the previous shift) -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE ORGANIC INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT
by Darren Sharp 17 Oct '16

17 Oct '16

Yes count me in too. Keen to explore this further. > On 17 Oct. 2016, at 9:36 pm, Irma Wilson <il4(a)mweb.co.za> wrote: > > Thank you Ann Marie and Michel > I'd be interested in joining conversation > > In solidarity > Irma > > >> On 17 Oct 2016, at 9:59 AM, Ann Marie wrote: >> >> Hello, everyone, >> >> I'll keep an eye on this thread for responses in the coming days, and if, as Michel says, there's an agreement among a number of you to explore this, I'll put together a "Doodle" to start pinpointing a time for a discussion. >> >> Have a good day, >> >> Ann Marie >> >>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Sorry, cutnpaste error. Should have been section entitled "How we can >>> implement a Mutual Coordination Economy based on existing >>> organizations". >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> then see from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of alignment between 'proto-phyles' >>> > >>> > Could this be it? >>> > https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-ch… >>> > >>> > See the section entitled >>> > "https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-ch…" >>> > and my comment below: >>> > https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-ch… >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Michel Bauwens >>> > <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: >>> >> dear David, >>> >> >>> >> I have great difficulties lately to monitor my emails, 5755 to go <g>, and >>> >> so I missed this important response, and the ones following which I will >>> >> process in a moment. >>> >> >>> >> The first thing for me, is perhaps that we can organize a common skype with >>> >> joshua vial / Alanna Krause for Enspiral, Robert Pye for Ethos, you and >>> >> Natalia for lasindias, tibi from Sensorica, perhaps others ? And then see >>> >> from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of alignment between >>> >> 'proto-phyles' >>> >> >>> >> I copy Ann-Marie for the p2p foundation, for assistance in coordinating any >>> >> such meetup if there is agreement on doing it. >>> >> >>> >> Since the previous email in this thread is an email from our recently >>> >> deceased P2P colleague Jean Lievens, I am sharing a special thought in his >>> >> remembrance, >>> >> >>> >> Michel >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:12 PM, David de Ugarte <david(a)lasindias.coop> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> We completely agree!! >>> >>> >>> >>> It is a nodal moment because this convergence, I guess, reflects a >>> >>> deepening concern in wide social sectors. In our case, we are experiencing >>> >>> since October's Somero a widening of our audience and a closer relation >>> >>> with other communities. Last week, in example, we had by first time in many >>> >>> years, more than 10.000 unique visitors in our blog in only a day, and the >>> >>> Communard Manifesto is spreading a lot faster than we thought: there are in >>> >>> example volunteers -we did not know before- translating it in Switzerland >>> >>> and Portugal to German and Portuguese languages. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, we are sensing not only the appearance of a «P2P theoritical camp», >>> >>> but the emergence of a «P2P audience» probably product of the disenchanted >>> >>> with the political hopes hegemonic only a year ago between the majority of >>> >>> the activists in countries like Spain or Greece. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, Michel, what comes now? How could we contribute? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2016-05-21 22:06, Michel Bauwens wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE ORGANIC >>> >>> INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT >>> >>> >>> >>> The above has always been the ambition of the P2P Foundation, and I >>> >>> believe this is now coalescing .. some signs >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) Las Indias has consolidated all its original insights in the just >>> >>> published Communard Manifesto (Steve Herrick: you can perhaps let them know >>> >>> about this posting here as they are not on fb) >>> >>> >>> >>> 2) the last video by Dmytri Kleiner, which I posted here, also shows a >>> >>> convergence towards this multi-modal approach (working for the strengthening >>> >>> of the new economy within the existing one) and has a very precise strategy >>> >>> and many innovative concepts >>> >>> >>> >>> 3) the critique by Alanna Krause on the blockchain which I posited, along >>> >>> with the 'transvestment' practices, show that both the practice, and the >>> >>> theory, and the subjectivity of Enspiral is moving in the same direction >>> >>> >>> >>> 4) as for myself, I am working on a more theoretical book in which I'm >>> >>> aligning all our pasts insights following the overview of Kojin Karatini .. >>> >>> >>> >>> I may be forgetting some other elements, but here we are, there is >>> >>> effectively, a collective organic intellectual at work, which is thinking >>> >>> through the strategies to be followed by the forces of the commons, in a way >>> >>> that may have been there in seed form, but is about to flower and .. THIS IS >>> >>> HUGELY IMPORTANT >>> >>> >>> >>> I am not implying here of course that there are no differences between the >>> >>> approaches of these groups, but that they are moving broadly in the same >>> >>> direction . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At present, there are not any formal bridges between these groups, but >>> >>> there are occasional informal contacts, and the memes do seem to travel .. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> With Dmytri Kleiner, we are discussing a 'Transvestment' conference in >>> >>> Berlin at the end of this year, no funding yet, this could be an occasion >>> >>> for these groups to enter into more coherent dialogue, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>> >>> http://commonstransition.org >>> >>> >>> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> >>> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>> >>> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org >>> >> >>> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >> >>> >> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >> >>> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Communications: P2P Foundation >> Content and relationships: Commons Transition >> Co-founder: Guerrilla Translation >

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Fwd: [NetworkedLabour] Brazilian Embraer's Metal Workers Get Their Own App-You must use all the tools in the fight against capitalist exploitation!
by Michel Bauwens 17 Oct '16

17 Oct '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Zeltzer <lvpsf(a)igc.org> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:49 AM Subject: [NetworkedLabour] Brazilian Embraer's Metal Workers Get Their Own App-You must use all the tools in the fight against capitalist exploitation! To: "<networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org>" < networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org> Brazilian Embraer's Metal Workers Get Their Own App-You must use all the tools in the fight against capitalist exploitation! Baixe o aplicativo Rádio Peão! Agora também para Iphone https://blogdoherbert.com.br/2016/10/15/baixe-o-aplicativo- tamu-junto-agora-tambem-para-iphone/ Brazilian Embraer's Metal Workers Get Their Own App-You must use all the tools in the fight against capitalist exploitation! Download the Pedestrian Radio app! Now also for iPhone The Radio Pawn application was developed to expand communication and grassroots organization of Embraer's employees. The application, which before was called Tamo Together, has been refurbished and updates also comes with new name to express that which is your main goal - to keep workers informed of its main vindication and longings. The new name, Radio Pedestrian, is one subject that runs within the workplace, from mouth to mouth among the workers on the situation of the factory and workers' campaigns with the union. With constantly updated content you will find in the palm key information category and the struggles and demands of Brazilian workers. It also has available in SYNDICATE section key information and common questions of workers, as the explanation of the B91 and B94 benefits, What is the CAT, legal proceedings, Youth Camp and restaraunt phones. Also use the application to follow the campaign "Against Embraer production of Denationalization" and our struggle in defense of jobs and rights. Install on your mobile Iphone or Ipad just download the app through the App Store by searching for "Radio Pawn" or click here: iOS - iPhone & iPad On smartphones with Android system just download the app via Google Play by searching for "Radio Pawn" or click: ANDROID If you have smartphone with Windows Phone system you will need to download the app via your internet browser. Access the applink.com.br/radiopeao page to download the application in your browser and options, select START SCREEN. You must use all the tools in the fight against capitalist exploitation! Baixe o aplicativo Rádio Peão! Agora também para Iphone O aplicativo Rádio Peão foi desenvolvido para ampliar a comunicação e organização de base dos trabalhadores da Embraer. O aplicativo, que antes tinha o nome de Tamo Junto, foi remodelado e suas atualizações vem também com novo nome para expressar aquele que é seu principal objetivo – manter os trabalhadores informados sobre suas principais reinvidicações e anseios. O novo nome, Rádio Peão, representa aquele assunto que corre dentro do local de trabalho, passando de boca a boca entre os operários sobre a situação da fábrica e das campanhas dos trabalhadores junto com o sindicato. Com conteúdo sempre atualizado você encontrará na palma da mão as principais informações da categoria e as lutas e reivindicações dos trabalhadores brasileiros. Também tem disponivel na seção SINDICATO as principais informações e dúvidas comuns dos trabalhadores, como a explicação sobre os benefícios B91 e B94, O que é a CAT, processos jurídicos, Colônia de Férias e telefones utéis. Também use o aplicativo para acompanhar a campanha “Contra a Desnacionalização da produção da Embraer” e a nossa luta em defesa dos empregos e direitos. Instale no seu celular Para Iphone ou Ipad basta baixar o app através do App Store pesquisando por “Rádio Peão” ou click aqui: iOS – iPhone & iPad Nos smartphones com sistema Android basta baixar o app através do Google Playpesquisando por “Rádio Peão” ou click aqui: ANDROID Se você tem smartphone com sistema Windows Phone precisará baixar o app através do seu navegador de internet. Acesse a página applink.com.br/radiopeao para baixar o aplicativo em seu navegador e em Opções, selecione TELA DE INÍCIO. É preciso usar todas as ferramentas na luta contra a exploração capitalista! _______________________________________________ NetworkedLabour mailing list NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: [Ask for your assistance］Deadline of Full Scholarship of 150,000Yen/Month for our new dapartment approaching
by Michel Bauwens 17 Oct '16

17 Oct '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <hajime.imamura(a)nifty.com> Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:48 PM Subject: [Ask for your assistance］Deadline of Full Scholarship of 150,000Yen/Month for our new dapartment approaching To: Sudha Reddy <sudha179(a)gmail.com>, "Mariyana Amova (MBM - International Forum of the SSE entrepreneurs)" <mamova(a)rencontres-montblanc.coop> Cc: Abhijit Ghosh <abhijit.ghosh(a)mail.mcgill.ca>, antonella noya < antonella.noya(a)oecd.org>, anne-pacquet <anne-pacquet(a)orange.fr>, arnaud riehl Dear Suda, Dear Mariyana CC: Dear Members of SSE Working Group, It was really nice to be able to meet with Mariyana in Reims, I hope all of you are doing well. I am awfully sorry to disturb you, but I am very happy if you could help us to in form ambitions young people about our very interesting full scholarship for the students wishing to study in our new department in Tokyo from 2017. All the lectures are done in English, sorry not in French. I would be the director of this Department of Global Innovation Studies aiming at educating innovative and creative leader with ambitious entrepreneurship and leadership. If you are interested in our new department please look at below URL http://www.toyo.ac.jp/site/english-faculty/108208.html http://www.toyo.ac.jp/uploaded/life/110627_158671_misc.pdf We offer full scholarship in addition to exemption from paying tuition fees and related cost, students will be given (no need to return) 150,000 Yen/Month (1,800,000 Yen/Year) during 4 years of study in our department of global innovation studies. Total numbers of scholarships are 30 students /year for Department of Global Innovation Studies. However, deadline for Internet application is approaching. It ends at Friday, November 4th 2016 of Japan time (GMT +9). So, let me repeat again, I am very happy if you could help us to inform this very interesting opportunity to whom it may be interested. Attached is the information for admission and scholarship. And also, you can find precise information in the below URL http://www.toyo.ac.jp/book/list/book345.html http://exam.52school.com/guide/toyo-sij-en And, if you have any precise question about our scholarship, please send e-mail to mlglobal(a)toyo.jp I am sorry to disturb you, but I am very happy to share the good educational opportunities for the young people in your country or region. Thank you for your kind collaboration. Looking forward to seeing you soon. Best wishes, Hajime IMAMURA ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hajime IMAMURA, TOYO University Professor, Faculty of Economics Vice Chairman of Preparatory Committee, Faculty of Global and Regional Studies Appointed Prospective Director, Department of Global Innovation Studies E-MAIL: hajime.imamura(a)nifty.com hajime(a)toyo.jp TEL: +81-3-3945-7411, FAX: +81-3-3945-7667 ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Into the digital void? – International Socialism
by Michel Bauwens 17 Oct '16

17 Oct '16

it's a brave attempt to de-fang what is happening so that it doesn't threaten a classic anti-capitalist position, fair enough, (as they say in french, 'circuler, il n'y a rien a voir') but seeking commonality, we can agree with the author that: "Technology will always be used by capital to reinforce its domination, but can equally be used by workers to create a society not based on profit but on the requirements and needs of society. The battle for control may well, as Marx stated, be the key to human liberation, but rather than being located in the “immaterial”, such struggles are firmly rooted in the material challenge to capitalism." The point is, not just to understand the world, but to do something about it <g> The professor's way , given the magazine it's published in, is likely to count on the workers to strike against capital; but not to actually create alternatives that take advantage of the new material conditions. Michel On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:13 PM, peter waterman <peterwaterman1936(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I may have previously posted this item, or another version of such. > > However, I don't mind re-posting it in so far as it seems to be a major > Marxist (not to mention Trotskyist or SWP) position on the matter. > > My feeling is that it is over-determinist. Or that it's pessimism of the > intellect is unbalanced by an optimism of the will? > > Or, again, that the author does not recognise 1) the technological quantum > leap that ICT represents (Castells compares it to the invention of the > alphabet, not the steam-engine), nor 2) the contradictory nature of ICT. > > So, finally, I would appreciate other - better qualified - opinions on the > matter. > > Pw > > > > http://isj.org.uk/into-the-digital-void/ > > _______________________________________________ > NetworkedLabour mailing list > NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org > http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: [CommonGood] fyi: new book on progressive social movements
by Michel Bauwens 17 Oct '16

17 Oct '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Birgit Daiber <bir.dai(a)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:53 PM Subject: [CommonGood] fyi: new book on progressive social movements To: "commongood(a)listi.jpberlin.de" <commongood(a)listi.jpberlin.de> Dear Friends and colleagues, at the Frankfurt Book Faire I present my new book on progressive social movements - as it is (for the moment) only in German, here is a short information in English: „And yet it moves ... Progressive social movements and their relation to EU and UN“ New progressive social movements give impulses for societal change since the Fifties of the Twentieth Century. They differ from political parties in their timely limited and thematic margins, their demand for grass-rout democracy – and they act transnational resp. international. Their success simultaneously implies their failure: Neither they are able to generate their experiences nor they can develop and follow concepts of general societal change. This is a storybook with a collection of narratives on ’68-Movements, Womens-, Environmental-, Peace- and the Alter-Globalisation-Movements. It tries to illustrate their specific character and the reciprocal influence between progressive social movements and institutional politics of European Union and United Nations. It’s last chapter covers an outline of the Europeanization of Trade Unions’ Movements – the European Trade Unions Federation - ETUC. Of all things the grand “old” sister of the new progressive social movements was able to create a genuine European organization – besides the deep national differences in their traditions and structures. Since their foundation in 1973 they fight for the social dimension of the European Union. The epilogue is a reflection on the relation between political parties and progressive social movements with special regard to the Europeanization of politics. Und sie bewegt sich doch ... Progressive soziale Bewegungen, die EU und die UNO. AG SPAK-Verlag, Neu-Ulm, 2016. *bir.dai(a)hotmail.com <bir.dai(a)hotmail.com>* *www.birgitdaiber.eu <http://www.birgitdaiber.eu>* *Mobile: 0039-366-4207762 <0039-366-4207762>* *Casella Postale No. 28, I-98055 Lipari* _______________________________________________ CommonGood Mailingliste JPBerlin - Politischer Provider CommonGood(a)listi.jpberlin.de https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/commongood -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE ORGANIC INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT
by Michel Bauwens 17 Oct '16

17 Oct '16

thanks a lot!! On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Ann Marie <amu444(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, everyone, > > I'll keep an eye on this thread for responses in the coming days, and if, > as Michel says, there's an agreement among a number of you to explore this, > I'll put together a "Doodle" to start pinpointing a time for a discussion. > > Have a good day, > > Ann Marie > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry, cutnpaste error. Should have been section entitled "How we can >> implement a Mutual Coordination Economy based on existing >> organizations". >> >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> then see from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of >> alignment between 'proto-phyles' >> > >> > Could this be it? >> > https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capit >> alist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10 >> > >> > See the section entitled >> > "https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capi >> talist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10 >> " >> > and my comment below: >> > https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capit >> alist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination- >> economy/2016/02/10#comment-1551200 >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Michel Bauwens >> > <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: >> >> dear David, >> >> >> >> I have great difficulties lately to monitor my emails, 5755 to go <g>, >> and >> >> so I missed this important response, and the ones following which I >> will >> >> process in a moment. >> >> >> >> The first thing for me, is perhaps that we can organize a common skype >> with >> >> joshua vial / Alanna Krause for Enspiral, Robert Pye for Ethos, you and >> >> Natalia for lasindias, tibi from Sensorica, perhaps others ? And then >> see >> >> from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of alignment >> between >> >> 'proto-phyles' >> >> >> >> I copy Ann-Marie for the p2p foundation, for assistance in >> coordinating any >> >> such meetup if there is agreement on doing it. >> >> >> >> Since the previous email in this thread is an email from our recently >> >> deceased P2P colleague Jean Lievens, I am sharing a special thought in >> his >> >> remembrance, >> >> >> >> Michel >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:12 PM, David de Ugarte <david(a)lasindias.coop >> > >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> We completely agree!! >> >>> >> >>> It is a nodal moment because this convergence, I guess, reflects a >> >>> deepening concern in wide social sectors. In our case, we are >> experiencing >> >>> since October's Somero a widening of our audience and a closer >> relation >> >>> with other communities. Last week, in example, we had by first time >> in many >> >>> years, more than 10.000 unique visitors in our blog in only a day, >> and the >> >>> Communard Manifesto is spreading a lot faster than we thought: there >> are in >> >>> example volunteers -we did not know before- translating it in >> Switzerland >> >>> and Portugal to German and Portuguese languages. >> >>> >> >>> So, we are sensing not only the appearance of a «P2P theoritical >> camp», >> >>> but the emergence of a «P2P audience» probably product of the >> disenchanted >> >>> with the political hopes hegemonic only a year ago between the >> majority of >> >>> the activists in countries like Spain or Greece. >> >>> >> >>> So, Michel, what comes now? How could we contribute? >> >>> >> >>> On 2016-05-21 22:06, Michel Bauwens wrote: >> >>> >> >>> AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE >> ORGANIC >> >>> INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT >> >>> >> >>> The above has always been the ambition of the P2P Foundation, and I >> >>> believe this is now coalescing .. some signs >> >>> >> >>> 1) Las Indias has consolidated all its original insights in the just >> >>> published Communard Manifesto (Steve Herrick: you can perhaps let >> them know >> >>> about this posting here as they are not on fb) >> >>> >> >>> 2) the last video by Dmytri Kleiner, which I posted here, also shows a >> >>> convergence towards this multi-modal approach (working for the >> strengthening >> >>> of the new economy within the existing one) and has a very precise >> strategy >> >>> and many innovative concepts >> >>> >> >>> 3) the critique by Alanna Krause on the blockchain which I posited, >> along >> >>> with the 'transvestment' practices, show that both the practice, and >> the >> >>> theory, and the subjectivity of Enspiral is moving in the same >> direction >> >>> >> >>> 4) as for myself, I am working on a more theoretical book in which I'm >> >>> aligning all our pasts insights following the overview of Kojin >> Karatini .. >> >>> >> >>> I may be forgetting some other elements, but here we are, there is >> >>> effectively, a collective organic intellectual at work, which is >> thinking >> >>> through the strategies to be followed by the forces of the commons, >> in a way >> >>> that may have been there in seed form, but is about to flower and .. >> THIS IS >> >>> HUGELY IMPORTANT >> >>> >> >>> I am not implying here of course that there are no differences >> between the >> >>> approaches of these groups, but that they are moving broadly in the >> same >> >>> direction . >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> At present, there are not any formal bridges between these groups, but >> >>> there are occasional informal contacts, and the memes do seem to >> travel .. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> With Dmytri Kleiner, we are discussing a 'Transvestment' conference in >> >>> Berlin at the end of this year, no funding yet, this could be an >> occasion >> >>> for these groups to enter into more coherent dialogue, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Michel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://commonstransition.org >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwe >> ns >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> http://commonstransition.org >> >> >> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> >> >> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> >> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > > > > -- > > - Communications: P2P Foundation > <https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/about-2> > - Content and relationships: Commons Transition > <http://commonstransition.org> > - Co-founder: Guerrilla Translation <http://guerrillatranslation.org> > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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