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Robert steeles p2p ideas
by Michel Bauwens 07 Aug '13

07 Aug '13

thanks robin; i know Robert well! -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fwd: How Modern Economics Is Built On 'The World's Dumbest Idea'
by Michel Bauwens 07 Aug '13

07 Aug '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chris Watkins <chriswaterguy(a)appropedia.org>an interesting mention of a commons in the heart of industrial society. "The problem is that when you outsource manufacturing in a foreign country far away, you are not just losing jobs. You risk losing something more important: knowledge. And even more important than that: the capacity to innovate. When knowledge and innovation are involved, you’re not just relocating a business. You may be relocating your future. When all large businesses do it, based on the economics they have been taught at business schools, whole sectors of the economy disappear permanently. The conventional economic thinking that we find in this book, as Pisano and Shih point out, “ignores the fact that new cutting-edge high-tech products often depend in some critical way on the commons of a mature industry. Lose that commons, and you lose the opportunity to be the home of the hot new businesses of tomorrow.”' How Modern Economics Is Built On 'The World's Dumbest Idea' http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/07/22/how-modern-economics-is… Sent from Pocket. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Fw: Collateral Damage: QE3 and the Shadow Banking System
by robert searle 06 Aug '13

06 Aug '13

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ellen Brown <ellenhbrown(a)gmail.com> To: ellenhbrown(a)gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 18:42 Subject: Collateral Damage: QE3 and the Shadow Banking System Hi, here is my latest article, posted on Truthout – Collateral Damage: QE3 and the Shadow Banking System http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/17755-collateral-damage-qe3-and-the-shad… Best wishes, Ellen Brown http://webofdebt.com http://publicbankinginstitute.org http://publicbanksolution.com Now availableon Amazon in paperback and Kindle format -- * * * To unsubscribe, click reply and write unsubscribe in the subject line.

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Summary and the full report of the 2nd Transnational Open Space Forum: 2013 World Revolution
by Orsan Senalp 06 Aug '13

06 Aug '13

Below summary is being circulated in order to inform you about the 2nd Transnational Open Space Forum held on Mumble on 21 July, and the next forum that will be held on 22 August. The perspective is to connect our struggles and networks online as well as in the real world in order to strengthen each other and continue on the path towards making global change real. Download the entire report and the minutes here: 2013WorldRevolution2ndOpenSpaceinMumble Summary of the 2nd Transnational Mumble Meeting that took place on 21 July 2013 and was attended by over 50 people from different countries. We had multiple discussions on how to build a global convergence of different movements like Zapatista, Anonymous, students, indigenous people, immigrants, African uprisings, Occupy, 15M, Blockupy, Via22, Yo Soy132, Chapullers, Change Brazil, movements from India, China so on towards 15O and beyond. We imagined a networked, coordinated global blockade and asked if we are ready of that? We reflected on how to globalise the struggles for free knowledge and privacy, against abuses of corporations, government surveillance, police brutality and military interventions. We discussed that 15O worldwide and a feeling that symbolic demonstrations are not effective on their own and had brainstorms about actions to be planned possibly at the same time all over the world. It was expressed that the need to not just make demonstrations, but to engage in actions that have real impact on the functioning of the system and realise the alternatives we are fighting for with the involvement of all the people in the building of the action from the beginning. Possible way to engage by starting a collective game. Boycott and disobedience campaigns are seen as crucial as well in order not to give our individual and collective support to their system. We talked about the experience of Toqueabankia blockade in Spain, the experience of Blockupy Frankfurt (blocking banks, deportation airports and unfair shops in Germany; struggles to regain the land in order to cultivate; experiences of occupation of empty buildings and turning them into shelters and social centres, cultural and political events in a very open, participatory, inclusive and horizontal way. Examples were: Alternative and free shops, consumers groups, International Boycott campaigns against occupation policies and transnational and economic powers Actions to stop building of big project like fast train, bridges, expo, and others, Blocking of infrastructures (digital & physical) in order to stop capitalist accumulation; by re-inventing the strike form. Suggested next steps: Building a Road to Dignity map, in order to visual the time line towards and after the15O, as a completely open process where all people could join from their local squares and add all the processes being planned (previous maps from 2011 and 2012) Continue to build-up connections and interest at meetings and events leading up to and beyond 15O (see the list of events below) The Occupy National Gathering Working Group (NGWG) and Via22 proposed to have the 3rd Transnational Open Space forum during the (Inter)Occupy National Gathering Global Convergence Day on 22 August. Besides the Open Space Forum between18.00 PM GMT-22.00 PM GMT there will be a round the clock online communication, media and global convergences. NEXT MEETINGS ON THE INTERNATIONAL ROAD TO DIGNITY: 13 – 15 September : Hub Meeting in Barcelona https://hubmeeting20a.wordpress.com/ 25- 27 October: Frankfurt Blockupy’s European Action Conference The Blockupy 2013 days of action were one step on the path towards becoming part of a huge, common European and global movement. We want to continue walking this path together with you: we want to talk about our respective struggles, want to have a strategic debate about whether Blockupy 2014 can be a common point of crystallisation, how we can develop our collective strength, how to intervene into the situation, how to create practical opportunities. To discuss all this, to make it happen together with our friends, colleagues and comrades from all over Europe, we therefore invite you a European Action Conference in Frankfurt on the weekend October 25th to 27th. We want to have lively discussions about strategies and approaches, want to kick off an international and participatory European preparatory process for the Blockupy mobilisation and against the planned opening of the new ECB in 2014. 1–3 November: 2nd Agora99 transnational meeting in Rome Last year’s meetings web site: http://99agora.net/ SCHEDULED INTERNATIONAL ACTIONS AND MEETINGS http://titanpad.com/internationalcallXactions LIST OF THE GLOBAL PLATFORMS http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/panforum/ DOCUMENT ABOUT REPRESSION PROPOSED IN THE LAST MEETING http://titanpad.com/stoprepression MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS OPEN SPACE FORUM http://bit.ly/12tFPYK ********************************************* NEXT MEETING WILL BE IN MUMBLE on 22 August, 18.00-22.00 GMT Server: Occupy talk, Room: Open Space HOW TO JOIN MUMBLE: Download and install mumble: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ Needs and suggestions from the meeting: Translators, facilitators, turn watchers (assist facilitator) note takers, Report backs from other movements Skill share of stories from other movements, even ones earlier to hear what worked; report of tactics that worked on the streets, then record and share widely Mobile research project that has pieces that can be broken down and worked on by many in different countries Think Globally, Act Locally, Live Glocally Another World Now!

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Fw: Grotesque Plan for Detroit: Fleece Working People to Save the Banks
by robert searle 06 Aug '13

06 Aug '13

Hi, here is my latest article, posted on AlterNet – Grotesque Plan for Detroit: Fleece Working People to Save the Banks http://www.alternet.org/economy/detroit-and-pensions Best wishes, Ellen Brown http://webofdebt.com http://publicbankinginstitute.org http://publicbanksolution.com Now availableon Amazon in paperback and Kindle format -- * To unsubscribe, click reply and write unsubscribe in the subject line.

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Fwd: [Commoning] Statement of Separation /F.Iacomella
by Michel Bauwens 05 Aug '13

05 Aug '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Silke Helfrich <silke.helfrich(a)gmx.de> Date: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM Subject: [Commoning] Statement of Separation /F.Iacomella To: commoning <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> August 1, 2013 Dear friends, We write to share some urgent, distressing news. It has been shocking for us to learn in recent weeks that someone who worked closely with many of us, Franco Iacomella, has systematically interfered with email correspondence from 50+ people; secretly altered Skype accounts; perpetrated a variety of digital impersonations; and misrepresented his professional credentials and affiliations. We do not make such accusations lightly; we have digital proof and a partial confession. These actions have had serious consequences for our working relationships, projects, outreach and funding efforts and personal reputations. They have also sowed the seeds of distrust and hurt feelings amongst long-standing collaborators who were unaware of the manipulated nature of their communications. And so we wish to publicly declare that the Commons Strategies Group, P2P Foundation and Heinrich Boell Foundation will no longer be working with Franco Iacomella. We have severed all personal and professional relationships with him, and are exploring legal action as warranted. The organizations directly affected by Iacomella’s manipulations and deceptions include the P2P Foundation, the Commons Strategies Group and FLACSO (Argentina) as well as a number of individuals, especially Beatriz Busaniche of Via Libre (Argentina) and Michel Bauwens (P2P Foundation). The Heinrich Boll Foundation, the Right Livelihood Award Foundation and Vía Libre Foundation were all indirectly affected. Untold other individuals and groups may have been affected by these communications manipulations without even perceiving them. If you have experienced unusual issues when dealings with the organizations or individuals named here (i.e., failures to respond; unusual emails; abrupt terminations of Skype contact links; etc.), we wish to apologize. We also wish to ask you to re-connect with these organizations and individuals, and resume ongoing relationships without the malicious interventions and impersonations that Iacomella perpetrated in an unknown number of cases from at least September 2012 until July 2013. As one might imagine, Iacomella’s deceptions have had all sorts of insidious and subtle effects on our working relationships with each other, on dozens of colleagues with whom we work, and on the commons movement more generally. We now wish to refocus on rebuilding the interpersonal and social fabric that binds us together in shared purpose. Sincerely, P2P Foundation: Michel Bauwens Commons Strategies Group: Michel Bauwens, Silke Helfrich, David Bollier Heinrich Böll Foundation: Heike Loeschmann Vía Libre Foundation (Argentina): Beatriz Busaniche FLACSO Facultad Latinoamericana de Ciencias Sociales (Argentina): Miguel Lengyel (Director). ______________________________**_________________ Commoning mailing list Commoning(a)lists.**wissensallmende.de <Commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> http://lists.wissensallmende.**de/mailman/listinfo/commoning<http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning> -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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[#ITJ-610-65627]: Robert steeles p2p ideas
by TeamSpeak Piracy 05 Aug '13

05 Aug '13

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Robert steeles p2p ideas
by Gordon Cook 05 Aug '13

05 Aug '13

Hi friends Here is hoping that things are settling down on the positive side for michel. Robert steele has a long and open record more recently of advocating the internet as a global source of OPEN intelligence. His outspokenness has caused official washington treat him like the "enemy' hence using his brain to put bread on his table has been increasingly difficult. His open source manifesto... a paperback book is well worth a look as are the ideas here in. He says on august 8th he is disappearing for 2 years. I have no idea of the details.... i hope to europe or to chaing mai <only half joking>. anyone interested in these ideas not in touch with him should get in touch. Begin forwarded message: > From: Robert Steele <robert.david.steele.vivas(a)gmail.com> > Date: August 3, 2013 2:57:36 PM EDT > To: cover(a)isoc.org > Cc: Discussion list for GigaNet Members <GIGANET-MEMBERS(a)listserv.syr.edu>, Gordon Cook <cook(a)cookreport.com> > Subject: can I help with the multi-stakeholder project? > > I am a member of the GIGANET global network, and have reposted your press release to Phi Beta Iota the Public Intelligence Blog. > > Internet Society: Questionnaire on Multistakeholder Participation in Internet Governance + Open Letter to the Internet Society > > I have three areas where I am concerned about a possible lack of focus by the Internet Society: > > 01 Resilience of the Internet in the face of government and corporate corruption and repression. I devised the > Autonomous Internet Roadmap that you can find at P2P Foundation's wiki. What NSA has been doing with > PRISM, and other countries and corporations betraying the public trust, is absolutely outrageous and should be > addressed by a self-healing network. > > 02 Focus on values and full participation by all eight tribes of intelligence: academic, civil society including > labor and religion, commerce with particular focus on small and smallest business, government with particular > focus on local and hybrid governance, law enforcement, media, military, and non-government/non-profit -- and of > course all individuals as themselves and as the amorphous public capable of collective intelligence. > > 03 Focus on sense-making. I had this discussion with Vint Cerf over sushi before he went over to the dark side > with Google. Nothing available on the Internet now can offer the public a means of integrated requirements > definition, collection management, machine-speed translation and multi-media processing, multi-cultural > holistic and true cost economic analytics, and educationally helpful rapid visualization of complex topics to > inspire public hybrid governance. > > I am in Oakton, VA until 8 August at which time I begin a two year period away from the area. I would be > delighted to come in for a round-table in the next few days if there were any interest. Otherwise I will be > easily available via the Internet and Skype. The questionnaire you are about to launch could be one of the > most important initiatives every undertaken by the Internet Society. I am also relatively certain it does not > address the above three issues, and I would like very much to help you do that. > > I am posting this for the record as an open letter at Phi Beta Iota, and offering it to Gordon Cook for > republication in the Cook Report should he so wish. I attach a few graphics to make some of my points, > this is an area that the Earth Intelligence Network (501c3) has been focusing on for six years, standing > on the shoulders of many others going back to Quincy Wright in 1957 and forward to Buckminster Fuller > and Russell Ackoff, among many others. My short profile is attached. Learn more at http://tinyurl.com/Steele2012 (self) > and http://tinyurl.com/Steele21 (index) > > Robert David STEELE Vivas > CEO (pro bono) > Earth Intelligence Network > Phi Beta Iota the Public Intelligence Blog > > Cell (until midnight on 7 August) 571.455.2883

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[#BWN-830-34714]: Fw: Rationality Counts, or RCs? In Connection with the Universal Debating Project
by TeamSpeak Piracy 05 Aug '13

05 Aug '13

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Fw: Rationality Counts, or RCs? In Connection with the Universal Debating Project
by robert searle 05 Aug '13

05 Aug '13

Apologies if this has appeared twice Dear All, Assistance is requested on the following matter. I have just updated my p2p foundation link on the Universal Debating Project, and have included a "new" concept. It is called a Rationality Count, or RC for short. I expect there are ideas very similiar, if not identical to it possibly, and I would be very grateful for any feedback. Maybe Michel may know with all his great knowledge? http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Universal_Debating_Project Relevant section shown here from above link An intriguing aspect of this "Global Brain" is that we could have what is termed a Rationality Count(RC). This would be the electronic tracking of peoples decision-making processes for, and against a specific topic. This could give us valuable insight as to the degrees of rationality people may have. For instance, 2,000 people may select pro argument a for topic C via the internet. Then, a con argument b could be presented online for the same topic C, and 1,500 decide to agree with it, and ofcourse, press the right button on their computers to transmit their decision...and so on. We may well find interesting patterns if RCs are used. At present, how new this concept is unknown but it is worth considering. Regards, R Searle

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