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Re: [P2P-F] Zipstick, Offline Collecting & Distributing ‘free content’ zips
by Michel Bauwens 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

Dear Jonas, I'm on the road for 2 weeks, but sharing already with our community, if you want us to cover this, please send a text for posting, as I would have no time to investigate right now, thanks for informing us though! Michel On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jonas - Ladda <jonas(a)ladda.be> wrote: > > > Hallo Michel, ... > > Timelab Gent (Kurt Stockman) spoorde me aan je op de hoogte te brengen van > ons recent opgestart project(je) 'Zipstick' > Bij deze, ... > > gegroet > Jonas > > > I'dd like to present you the 'Zipstick' Project. > > ZipStick > Sharing Files, drop some - get some! > Offline Collecting & Distributing ‘free content’ zips > > By inserting a Usb-stick users can put their own creative .zip-files on the > installation and get those of others. All content is to be licensed under > Creative Commons. > > A shared database with open files (text, fonts, sound, video, pics, > software, ...) ready to comsume or use in further creative actions! > > Get zipping! > > Zipstick was released on March 15th 2011 (The Game Is Up - Festival @ > Vooruit, Ghent.be - http://www.vooruit.be) and will be going on tour until > December 2011 and will then have a collected content celebration night! > > On our website (http://www.zipstick.be) people can see some random .zip > content on the installation (to get hold of that, they 'dd have to go to the > zipstickspot) and there's always one Uberzip (compiled by several artists) > available as download for approx. one day and and later only offline. > > Et voila > Jonas > Zipstick. > 0032473/78.54.62 > > > http://www.zipstick.be > > > > <http://www.ladda.be/> > > LADDA - expert in jeugdcultuur > Jonas Nachtergaele, 'Creative director' > www.ladda.be - t° 09/ 329.93.99 > > ++ *Nieuw adres: Oktrooiplein 1, 9000 Gent!* > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] Great Story on the Commons
by Michel Bauwens 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

fyi On 3/23/11, Jay Walljasper <jay(a)jaywalljasper.com> wrote: > > > Dear Commoners: > > Here is an interview about the Field Guide on Shareable.net, which I am very > happy about. Really good questions from P2P's Michel Bauwens and > Shareable's Neal Gorenflo really pushed me to think widely about the > commons. I hope you like it. > > Best, Jay > A Field Guide to the Commons > By Paul M. Davis > 03.22.11, 9:38am Comments (0) > 0Shar > In the following interview, Michel Bauwens of the P2P Foundation and > Shareable publisher Neal Gorenflo speak with Shareable cities columnist Jay > Walljasper about his new book, All That We Share, fostering new lifestyles > based on sharing, building more equitable and sustainable cities, and much > more. > > Michel Bauwens: Jay, in your discovery process of so many real and > constructive commons projects that are already out there, how do you see the > right balance between making something new that can create already new > lifestyles based on sharing, i.e. commoning; and perhaps more politicized > resistance movements. In other words, when do we go from yardsharing to > joining the Egyptian crowds? > > The principles and practices of the commons can make positive impact on > people’s lives at both at the intimate level of the community and on the > wider political and economic sphere of larger society. And, indeed, the two > are inextricably linked. Both represent an alternative to the modern market > mentality, which holds up a model of buying and selling as the highest form > of social organization. Sharing is dismissed as an outdated and impractical > ideal. So, anytime we can show how cooperative efforts have created tangible > benefits for people, then we are making progress toward a commons-based, not > market-ruled, future. > > A basic rule for community organizers is that small-scale local victories > set the stage for bigger projects to come. People who have experienced the > rewards of the commons in creating a community garden or being part of a > car- or bike-sharing project may feel empowered to tackle bigger issues like > global economic inequity or environmental devastation. Yet, at the same time > the sight of people in the streets of Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Bahrain and > Yemen standing up for the common good can inspire us to reach out to our > neighbors to make a difference in our own backyard. And that may start the > wheels turning for further changes to come. > > > Cartoons by Andy Singer > > Michel Bauwens: Do you think the commons can flower in the long-term, in the > face of a perhaps hostile corporate-market-state? Do you believe commoners > should also be thinking about the kind of policies which can sustain the > commons on the longer term, and help them become a more substantial part of > society? > > Yes, I think the commons can prevail over the long term although I have no > illusions that a peaceful, evolutionary revolution will be simple or quick. > The market mentality has taken root in people’s minds over the past 300 > years, and with a particular fierceness over the past 35. History shows that > any successful movement—from women’s suffrage to civil rights—takes decades > to make things happen. Even remarkable successes that appeared to happen > overnight—dissidents tearing down the Berlin Wall, the dismantling of > apartheid, and the recent Middle Eastern revolutions—were years in the > making. But at the same time, the rise of the Internet and other > instantaneous global communications might speed up the process. > > However, the formidable power of corporations, abetted by their agents in > government and media, cannot be underestimated. We commoners face a daunting > task. What makes me optimistic is that the rise of market forces over recent > decades has not delivered on the promise of making us happier, healthier or > more secure. Just the opposite—a small coterie of fabulously rich investors > rule the world while the rest of us struggle against economic uncertainty, > ecological degradation and social alienation. I believe people will become > increasingly open to hearing new ideas about how best to manage our economy > and political systems. > > That’s where the importance of both commons policies and demonstration > projects come in. If we can point to the success of various commons-inspired > initiatives around the world—environmental restoration in India, community > revitalization in Ohio, a step toward democratization on Facebook (all > examples from All That We Share)—we can win people’s hearts. And the more we > can articulate practical commons-based policies that can solve old problems > and create new opportunities, the more we can change people’s minds. > > > Michel Bauwens: What do you see as being the most imposing roadblocks facing > commons initiatives, and how have the most effective initiatives overcome > them? > > The powers that be stay on top through their brilliant manipulation of our > fears. They’ve convinced many people that more sharing will lead to chaos, > conflict and poverty. They preach that avarice is the most basic of human > traits, while cooperation is a risky proposition. This amounts to a > rewriting of both history and anthropology. Reams of evidence show that > human advancement has always depended more upon collaboration than > competition—but that gets lost in the flurry of advertising, PR and other > forms of modern mythmaking that shower us each day. > > As commoners, we must begin to counter this misinformation and spread a new > message about the importance of all protecting and expanding all that we > share—which can become the cornerstone of a new kind of society where more > people around the world enjoy happier lives. > > Neal Gorenflo: Though All That We Share is just out, you've already done > some speaking events about it. What has surprised you the most about its > reception so far? > > I have been doing a lot of radio interviews all across the U.S., both public > and commercial stations, and am surprised about how much enthusiasm the > radio hosts express about the commons. These are people who have been > professionally trained to be skeptical, but when they take a good close look > at these ideas, they see all kinds of possibilities—even ones that I have > not thought about. > > The hard thing in talking about the commons is that it is a new, and in some > ways radical idea, but once people understand it, they get excited about > what it could mean for creating a brighter future. It gives us all > permission to ask “What if?”—What if we really did treat the environment as > an inheritance we want to pass on to our children? What if we really did > treat all humans as equal? > > Neal Gorenflo: Since you're a fellow commons activist as well as a > journalist, I assume you have a goal for the book beyond telling a good > story. What do you hope to achieve with the book? > > My first hope with All That We Share is that it helps people identify how > the commons enriches their lives. From the bike trail that they love to ride > on the weekends, to the Internet they use for work and pleasure, to the > municipal water supply that pipes clean H2O into their homes, to the dance > steps they show off at the nightclub—these things are no one’s private > property, they are there for everyone to use. The focus in the media is so > much on the privatized world of individualism that we forget about all these > common assets upon which we depend. And once folks experience that “a-ha” > moment, they will be more motivated to protect and promote the commons > everywhere—from volunteering at the local library or fighting deep cuts in > the local parks budget to speaking up about the importance of global > biodiversity and demanding pharmaceutical companies make life-saving drugs > available to poor people around the world. > > The idea of sharing the commons motivates people to think differently about > how the world works. An important message here is that the commons is not > all about duty, obligation and sacrifice; it is also about fun. The art of > sharing improves our lives as it improves the world. We feel more > connections with others, and less isolated because realize that were not > completely on our own. > > I wanted to the book to reflect this sense of fun and kinship. That’s why > it’s not all just ideas and theories. I included cartoons, lists, stories > about how the commons has changed people’s lives and brought about > improvements in communities from North Dakota to Colombia. > > > Photo credit: Jan Gehl + Associates > > Neal Gorenflo: Do the values of the commons have a shot at gaining parity > with marketplace values? And where do you see the commons getting the most > traction? > > For most people, commons values are already more important than market > values. In our families, we don’t give our daughter with “A” grades at > school healthier food and warmer clothes than her sister who gets “B” > grades. We share what we have as fairly as we can. This is even true across > society. We don’t sell police and fire protection according to how much you > pay in premiums, denying some lower-income people police assistance in the > case of burglaries, vandalism and domestic disputes. That defies common > sense and common decency. > > > > So why do market values totally dominate other parts of our lives? Because > we’ve been told that it’s more effective, efficient and productive. Yet is > that really case? The U.S. has a largely market-driven medical system that > has resulted in more expensive, lower quality health care than in other > countries. > > The Great Recession has shown many people that the unrestrained market is > not the best operating system for all human activity. There is a place for > governance, whether in the form of government regulation or citizen > initiatives. Tea Party types, of course, resist this common sense but they > will likely run out of steam when faced with the reality that we face > serious problems besides budget deficits. At least, I hope so. Most people > are beginning to see that some essential needs are better met through > cooperative, collaborative action than by privatization. Protecting our > communities, the environment and the overall social fabric are three areas > where the principles of the commons can be applied most immediately to > create new solutions and opportunities. > > Neal Gorenflo: What part do you see cities playing in the advancement of > commons as a social, political and economic force in society? > > By its very nature, urban life is about sharing. City dwellers all depend on > the same water supply, sewage system, street network, transit systems, > public health measures, public safety etc. This explains why urbanization > has increased steadily through the centuries, and the fact that half the > world’s people now live in cities. Cities, by design, allow people to > mingle—and from all these human connections come great new ideas for > businesses, cultural institutions and community improvements. But for cities > to remain vital and healthy places to live, the commons must be protected. > More and more people who care about the fate of their communities are coming > to understand that and are fueling the growth of the emerging commons > movement. > > Neal Gorenflo: What commons-based innovations and policies can most increase > the social equity and sustainability of cities? > > A great example is Bogota, which I write about in the book and also on > theShareable site. It’s not a place you’d immediately think to look for > shining examples of urban revitalization, but they have done some remarkable > things. A former mayor, Enrique Penalosa, was dedicated to the idea of > social equity but realized that under the current economic conditions, > equity of income was not going to happen anytime soon. But he was not going > to give up on equity of quality of life. Happiness, he believed, is not just > for the rich. So he set about strengthening the commons throughout the city: > parks, libraries, public schools, public transit, public spaces, bike > trails, sidewalks, pedestrian streets, water and sewage services. > > His theory was that wealthy people can buy what they need to make them > happy, but everyone else depends on the commons. So he wanted to make sure > the commons were as good as possible. One very symbolic thing he did was to > stop cars from parking on the sidewalks. Poor people don’t have yards to > hang out in; they hang out on the sidewalk, and shouldn’t have this space > taken away so wealthy folks can park anywhere they please. He also created a > world-class Bus Rapid Transit system, which works like a subway except that > people ride in buses on the surface of special transit streets, which even > the wealthy love to ride. Penalosa admits that he wasn’t focused on > sustainability in doing all this, but the result was that Bogota is now > looked to as a leader in sustainable urban development. Sustainability and > social equity often go hand in hand. > > But it’s important to keep in mind that social equity is not just about > providing poor- and middle-class people with services, it also about > including them in decision making that affects their future. The idea of > participation and collaboration is at the very core of the commons. > Decisions that are made at the top and handed down to the rest of us > frequently fail. That’s because the wisdom and knowledge of people affected > by these policies is left out of the process. This is especially true in > cities. The people who live in a neighborhood are the experts on that > particular place, and can offer the best—and often cheapest—ideas on how to > improve it. That was the theme of my earlier book, The Great Neighborhood > Book. > > > Jay Walljasper > *Writer *Speaker *Storyteller > JayWalljasper.com > > > > > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Critical data on wireless meshes Fwd: [Arch-econ] Potential for global routeability in wireless mesh netsusing ipv6
by Gordon Cook 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

From peter ecclesine what i regard as a rather definitive statement on where p2p mesh is heading. I a follow u messaGE TO ME HE called HSLS is just another proprietary mesh color emphasis mine. My reason for calling attention to this is that before effort is spent on wireless meshes one better know from a technical point of view what is possible as well as what a standards compliant interface means from an economics and interoperable point of view. Aaaron if you are able would you respond to comments that may be raised - I am on the book deadline i have been discussing with you Begin forwarded message: > From: "Peter Ecclesine (pecclesi)" <pecclesi(a)cisco.com> > Date: March 22, 2011 6:31:50 AM EDT > To: "Economics of IP Networks" <arch-econ(a)cookreport.com> > Subject: Re: [Arch-econ] Potential for global routeability in wireless mesh netsusing ipv6 > Reply-To: Economics of IP Networks <arch-econ(a)cookreport.com> > > Hi Gordon, > > A couple of comments on what Sascha is saying about overhead and scaling mesh. > > In IEEE 802.11, we have been working on layer 2 mesh since 2005. In early 2005 we received a US Navy Research Labs proposal based on 15 years experience with mesh in Navy applications [algorithms disclosed starting on page 20] > https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/05/11-05-0142-01-000s-proposal-dynamic-b… > > It has each station send one broadcast packet every half second, and using consolidated logic, every three seconds it reforms a dynamic backbone mesh with one portal to the outside world, and connectivity among all stations. The algorithm won an IETF manet bakeoff at NRL using nineteen moving pickup trucks to relay traffic around the labs. The algorithms were disclosed in 2005 in the reference paper. > > HSLS description appears to be more chatty about link state. > > DBS has limits in scaling, and in 2008 the 802.11s Project scope was relaxed to address larger layer 2 systems. > > Last week, 802.11s gave a tutorial of their nearly complete amendment, expected to be published in September > https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/11/11-11-0380-00-000s-mesh-tutorial.ppt > > Over the same timeframe, the SmartGrid industry has deployed smart meters using above layer 3 meshing, and now comes to a point where issues of security, performance and scaling cannot be ignored. Zigbee has not scaled to 12,000 power meter radios per pole top radio, nor scaled in security. > > The SGIP Smart Energy Profile group will choose whether to require an upgradable security schema or to grandfather the Texas SEP 1.x security system (which would be like accepting 802.11 WEP as a part of a security architecture). http://collaborate.nist.gov/twiki-sggrid/pub/SmartGrid/HANTF/Home_Area_Netw… > > To me, most mesh deployments will not have 20 hops, nor 10,000 nodes, and can function at layer 2/3, like switching does. > > I don’t see the applicability of HSLS in neighborhoods or highways or downtown. > > petere > Peter Ecclesine, Technology Analyst > MS SJ-14-4 170 West Tasman Dr, San Jose, CA 95134-1706 > Ph 408/527-0815, FAX 408/525-9256 > "Time doesn't fool around." "Without Prejudice" U.C.C. 1-207 > From: arch-econ-bounces(a)cookreport.com [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Cook > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:16 AM > To: Economics of IP Networks > Subject: [Arch-econ] Potential for global routeability in wireless mesh netsusing ipv6 > > This is a result from a side discussion > > and very very interesting to me. peter e or anyone - what is your opinion of what sascha is saying? > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Sascha Meinrath <meinrath(a)newamerica.net> > Date: March 19, 2011 10:51:03 AM EDT > To: Gordon Cook <cook(a)cookreport.com> > Cc: P2P Foundation mailing list <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org>, Michael Gurstein <gurstein(a)gmail.com>, armin(a)easynet.co.uk > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fidonet in community wireless projects? > > Hi all, > > On 03/19/2011 12:32 AM, Gordon Cook wrote: > > in some way similar? Only in the store and forward sense of making the next > hop. Randy bush was backbacking around south america in the 1980s doing uucp > and then fido, dave hughes did fido with big sky telegraph, i carried a 9600 > baud modem to moscow for one of the first russian fidos. > > wireless mesh is MUCH faster BUT although i'd like to see it happen i doubt that > it will ever be globally routable. sascha, do you agree or not? If anyone > thinks it can be globally routable please tell me how. > > IPv6 does allow global routability. Currently, we're working on distributed and > ad-hoc mesh routability at massive scale. I don't think we've yet found a limit > and (thus far) technological improvements have outstripped any scalability > issues, but the problem of routing overhead is one that we're constantly working > on. Meanwhile, in terms of precursors, I'd look more to ALOHAnet and the like. > Where Fidonet does have a closer parallel is in the notion of diffusion of > information -- i.e., that key info could move slowly and didn't need to suffuse > the entire network simultaneously. When my team developed HSLS (see: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazy_Sighted_Link_State_Routing_Protocol) this was > the key breakthrough (and what dramatically lowered routing overhead to make > mesh networking far more scalable. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince > developers I was working with to integrate the best-of tech from European folks, > however, I was able to convince Europeans to integrate best-of tech from us. So > today, BATMAN and olsrd are the standards -- they uses HSLS-like routing, and > the tech scales to incredibly large networks. > > --Sascha > > > ============================================================= > The COOK Report on Internet Protocol, (PSTN) 609 882-2572 (Skype-in) 609 643-4067 > Back > Issues: http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=37&… > <http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=37&…> > Cook's Collaborative Edge Blog http://gordoncook.net/wp/ > Subscription info: http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&I… > <http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&I…> > ============================================================= > > > > > > > > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Sepp Hasslberger wrote: > > > "FidoNet is a point-to-point and store-and-forward email WAN which uses modems > on the direct-dial telephone network. It was developed in 1984, and has over > 20,000 public nodes worldwide. > > "FidoNet has been owned and operated primarily by end-users and hobbyists more > than by computer professionals. Therefore, social and political issues arose > in FidoNet far faster and more seriously than might be expected by those > raised in other network cultures." > > ( this was written in 1992 and is > quoted from http://www.fidonet.org/inet92_Randy_Bush.txt ) > > It would seem that there are at least some parallels, and that FidoNet, > although technologically quite different from what we have today, was in some > way a predecessor to the local mesh networks that are being established here > and there. > > Sepp > > > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Sascha Meinrath wrote: > > On 03/18/2011 03:58 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote: > Why don't we ask an expert... Sascha, any comments. > > It's on the decline, but still alive (fidonet.org <http://fidonet.org/> I > think). The > decentralization is similar to some of the community LAN and wireless > technologies, but I wouldn't say Fidonet was a precursor (technologically > speaking). Its hayday was 1980s/90s, but the Web pretty much crushed it over > time. > > --Sascha > > Best, > > M > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:49 PM > *To:* Michael Gurstein > *Cc:* p2p-foundation; Sepp Hasslberger; armin(a)easynet.co.uk > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Fidonet in community wireless projects? > > Interesting question, does anyone have the answer? > > I'll relay to FAcebook, > > Michel > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Facebook* <update+pjiidwm(a)facebookmail.com > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:update%[email protected]>> > Date: Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:41 AM > Subject: Lorraine Lee commented on your link. > To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=528245547&v=wall&story_fbid=20273… > <http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=528245547&v=wall&story_fbid=20273…>> > > Hi Michel, > Lorraine Lee commented on your link. > Lorraine wrote: "Whatever happened to Fidonet? Is the dna of fidonet alive > in some of there community wireless projects we keep hearing about?" > > See the comment thread > <http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=528245547&v=wall&story_fbid=20273… > <http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=528245547&v=wall&story_fbid=20273…>> > > > Reply to this email to comment on this link. > Thanks, > The Facebook Team > > See Comment > <http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=528245547&v=wall&story_fbid=20273… > <http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=528245547&v=wall&story_fbid=20273…>> > > The message was sent to michelsub2004(a)gmail.com > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]>. If you don't want to receive these emails > from Facebook in the future or have your email address used for friend > suggestions, you can unsubscribe > <http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=c05bf5&u=528245547&mid=3ecb58eG1f7c632bGe0a… > <http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=c05bf5&u=528245547&mid=3ecb58eG1f7c632bGe0a…>>. > > Facebook, Inc. P.O. 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Fwd: [gang8] Japan - the real aftermath
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

remains of p2p , face to face , people to people, connections to rely on, after a devastating tsunami ? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <Erc...> Date: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:42 AM Subject: [gang8] Japan - the real aftermath To: gang8(a)yahoogroups.com . *Japan's problems* One of the particular horrors emerging from the aftermath to the tsunami is that the low-lying areas which were hardest hit were the cheapest districts and they had been abandoned to the aged, of whom Japan has more than anywhere else. They also seem from the pictures to have lived in cheap houses made of wood and paper. Old people are the least able to survive a tsunami. I read in this morning's *Times* (Tuesday) in an excellent report from their staffer Richard Lloyd Parry that in the town of Minami-Sanriku, the tsunami also engulfed the town hall, which is now "a twisted mass of girders. All local tax records and citizenship lists have been wiped out. The man supposed to back-up the electronic town registers is kicking himself." said a spokesman for the town office. The upshot is they no longer know who lived there in the first place. "But it's very serious," said the spokesman. "Now we don't even know who the people of this town are." That is creating confusion about the most basic fact of all - the death toll. Minimi-Sanriku can only account for 9,800 of its supposed 17,431 citizens. Further up the coast, the number of missing is approximately 10,000 and similar figures are reported for other towns. Are any of you surprised that the truth is dribbling out piecemeal and in contradictory form, or that the Japanese authorities haven't the faintest idea about what is going on? Or that the Japanese people now trust their government less and less? What price now the 'Japanese miracle'? It turns out to be a just another corrupt, administratively incompetent Oriental backwater after all. See my posting of yesterday about the BRICs. "Even in towns which have saved or backed up their records, the bureaucratic problem is enormous. Many civil servants were lost in the tsunami. The Minami-Sanriku town hall lists 38 of its 230 staff among the missing." "Surprising numbers of Japanese keep their savings at home in cash." Now I wonder why they do that? "And many have lost family register documents, safes, bank books and crucially, the hanko or name stamps, which take the place of signatures on official documents." "Tomoaki Abe, a headmaster, hopes the bank clerks will give him access to his account because they know his face". What has this writer been preaching since 1991 about the utter importance of bank managers who know their customers face to face? And that banks which abandon that principle "have forfeited their right to run retail banking." I said as much in an article in* Britain and Overseas*, the quarterly journal of the Economic Research Council, this time last year. Chris M London __._,_.___ Reply to sender<Ercouncil(a)aol.com?subject=Re%3A%20Japan%20-%20the%20real%20aftermath>| Reply to group<[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Japan%20-%20the%20real%20aftermath>| Reply via web post<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gang8/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNXJ2MTExBF9TAzk3MzU5N…>| Start a New Topic<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gang8/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJldjZlYm0xBF9TAzk3MzU5N…> Messages in this topic<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gang8/message/15690;_ylc=X3oDMTM2NmpiZjQyBF9T…>( 1) Recent Activity: - New Members<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gang8/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYWE4MjlhBF9TAzk3Mz…> 1 Visit Your Group<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gang8;_ylc=X3oDMTJlamdhNGtsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BG…> The gang8 list is devoted to Creditary Economics. To unsubscribe, email: gang8-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com . __,_._,___

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Fwd: JCOM 10(1) - new issue - March 2011
by Michel Bauwens 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

Dear Alessandro, I'm off for 2 weeks and can't process this for the moment, but perhaps you can present this issue by referring to the books issue in particular? Michel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <jcom-eo(a)jcom.sissa.it> Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:04 PM Subject: JCOM 10(1) - new issue - March 2011 To: michelsub2004(a)gmail.com Dear all, we are pleased to announce that the March 2011 issue of JCOM - Journal of Science Communication - (issue 1, volume 10) http://jcom.sissa.it/ is online. Comments, remarks and papers by you are kindly requested. The next issue will be online on the 21st June 2011. CALL FOR ARTICLES: We are seeking articles for a special issue of JCOM focused on the future of science journalism. For a detailed description of the call topics and further guidance on submission you can see the journal website at http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/09/04/call-journalism-2011 CONTENTS: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EDITORIAL The new book Daniele Gouthier The Internet and digital media are changing science books. They change the way readers approach books and change the way books present their contents. Probably, the Internet and digital media are also changing the contents themselves. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)E/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ARTICLE Theatre to motivate the study of physics Marina Carpineti, Michela Cavinato, Marco Giliberti, Nicola Ludwig, Laura Perini A survey we carried out in upper secondary schools showed that the majority of the students consider physics as an important resource, yet as essentially connected to technology in strict terms, and not contributing "culture", being too difficult a subject. Its appreciation tends to fade as their education progresses through the grades. The search for physics communication methods to increase interest and motivation among students prompted the Department of Physics at the University of Milan to establish the Laboratory of ScienzATeatro (SAT) in 2004. Up to May 2010, SAT staged three shows and one lesson-show having physics as a main theme, for students attending any grades at school. Good indicators of the efficacy of those shows are: the number of repeats (256 of them up to May 2010), the reputation of the theatres in which they were performed, and the results of two surveys on the achievement of the goals, which saw the participation of over 50 classes each. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)A01/ ********** In search of a new public for scientific exhibitions or festivals: the lead of casual visitors Fabienne Crettaz von Roten This article examines the public at a science exhibition or festival and tries to determine whether casual visitors are a means of expanding the audience. According to a Swiss survey of public attitudes towards science (2005), the non-public of a science exhibition or festival is distinguished by demographics such as gender and education (more female and less educated), cultural practices (less frequent) and attitudes towards science (less positive). Considering the Swiss science festival of 2009, casual visitors differ from intentional ones in terms of sociodemographic aspects and scientific cultural practices; on the other hand, casual visitors are close to intentional ones in terms of non-scientific cultural practices and attitudes towards science. Consequently, casual visitors are one way of increasing audiences. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)A02/ ********** The use of scientific knowledge in the decision making process of environmental public policies in Brazil Maria José Carneiro, Teresa da-Silva-Rosa The way policy makers mobilize scientific knowledge in order to formulate environmental policies is important for understanding the developmental process of environmental policies. Some biodiversity conservation policies, such as those establishing the conservation units and laws on the regulation of land use in protected areas, were selected as objects of analysis. The aim was to see whether political decision makers are supported by scientific knowledge or not. Based on interviews with technical staff from governmental institutions, politicians and scientists, this study analyzed the way the knowledge is mobilized by policy makers concerning measures related to biodiversity conservation in the state of Rio de Janeiro (Brazil). We have concluded that environmental policy makers do not normally use the knowledge produced by scientific and academic institutions. Rather than being based on a systematic bibliographic research on environmental issues, the decisions are supported either by personal experience or by expert advice. The measures under analysis were not supported by evidence based on knowledge but motivated by political or economic interests. Paradoxically, policy makers consider themselves sufficiently well informed to make decisions concerning the policy to be implemented. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)A03/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ COMMENT Nearly five centuries of science books Daniele Gouthier In four steps - from Renaissance to the dawn of the 20th century - this issue explores some aspects of the history of book sciences, as research and popularisation instruments also playing a role in economy. Adrian Johns speaks about the origin of science books in the Renaissance. Then, through the papers respectively by Bruce Lewenstein and Paola Govoni, the focus moves to science books in 19th-century America and Italy. They demonstrate that, in both countries, science books were a stimulus to the establishment of a national scientific community. Finally, Francesco De Ceglia exemplifies the role played by agrarian catechisms in the process of spreading farming skills among landowners. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)C01/ ********** Science books and networks in the Renaissance. An interview with Adrian Johns Adrian Johns The interview portrays the role of scientific books during the Renaissance. Books written within the tradition of skilled technical and intellectual practice shaped the way that led to the birth of modern science. Rooted in a panorama characterized by the multiplicity of cultural authorities, scientific books deeply influenced Renaissance culture and created networks interlaced with the existing trade channels. Big single-authored works, typical in the Renaissance, thereafter would be replaced by smaller-scale publications. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)C01/Jcom1001(2011)C02 ********** Scientific books in American culture. An interview with Bruce V. Lewenstein Bruce V. Lewenstein The interview presents an overview on the role of scientific publications during some key periods in United States history. It describes the developing of a culture scientifique in the late XIX century and the increasing relevance of the US within the scientific world, intertwined with a new public demand for science stories; only during the Cold War some books begin to question science. The author here argues that scientific books are a key marker of the way science fits the American culture. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)C01/Jcom1001(2011)C03 ********** Popularizing science in Italy: a historical perspective. An interview with Paola Govoni Paola Govoni The interview concerns the role of scientific books in the Italian society from the 19th century until today. Having played an important role in the formation of a national scientific community, science popularization has offered a ceaseless high-quality production during the past two centuries. On the other hand, even today scientific publications do reach only a narrow Žlite. In the author's opinion, only the school system has the power to widen the public for science in Italy. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)C01/Jcom1001(2011)C04 ********** Farmers for the kingdom of Heaven. Agrarian catechisms in southern Italy in the late enlightenment and the limitations of technical publications Francesco Paolo de Ceglia Catechism, a literary genre of a religious origin, was once employed in the teaching of 'lay' subjects, especially of a technical nature. This is a review of this past editorial tradition which illustrates the potentialities and the limitations of agrarian catechisms, with a special focus on their spreading across Southern Italy in the late Enlightenment. This paper reflects on whether a book was the best instrument to hand down procedures and notions to people who supposedly were illiterate or unschooled. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/10/01/Jcom1001(2011)C01/Jcom1001(2011)C05 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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a swarm can only grow at its edges ..
by Michel Bauwens 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

Dear friends, as I'm off tomorrow for a 12 day holiday, I would welcome extra input for the blog, especially post-dated april 2 and after, here is a suggestion for commentary by sam and paul, as it also concerns the growth (?)of the p2p foundation, see http://falkvinge.net/2011/03/20/a-swarm-can-only-grow-on-its-edges/? -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Shareable: 10 Things Wisconsin Can Do To Increase Economic Democracy
by Neal Gorenflo 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

Hi all, Shareable would like your help. We're putting together a post on how Wisconsin can increase economic democracy. Below is the beginning of a list. What innovations would you add to this list? What comments do you have about this list? -start a state bank like South Dakota -support worker coops (but how? What states have done this well?) -help cities go carfree (any good examples of state laws that you know about that help cities with this?) -micro-manufacturing, make stuff locally (any examples you can share?) -participatory budgeting in cities (any examples of states or provinces passing laws that support city level PB? Or anything with a city-state tie related to PB?) Please include relevant links where possible when sharing an idea (as well as a link to your project which we'll use in a cite if we publish an idea you share). I'm inspired by events in Wisconsin and hope to further the ideas of Dennis Kucinich whose recent speech elevated a labor issue to one about the need for radical economic policy change including reform of the federal reserve. Here's his recent speech: http://readersupportednews.org/video/4-video/5275-dennis-kucinich-speaking-… Thank you! Neal -- Neal Gorenflo | Publisher, http://Shareable.net <http://shareable.net/> | 415.867.0429

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interesting commeent on the legacy of reich
by Michel Bauwens 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Facebook <update+pjiidwm(a)facebookmail.com> Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM Subject: Poor Richard commented on your link. To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> facebook<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F171175529598465&mid=3f13497G1…> Hi Michel, Poor Richard commented on your link. Poor wrote: "I've read most of Reich's work that's in print and consider him a world-class philosopher, psychoanalyst, and experimental psychologist. He did some of the first lab research on sex. I part ways with him on Orgone energy, however. Much of the sexual/biological energy Reich observed is in fact neurochemically produced and conducted. Orgone theory is largely superfluous. Many of his speculations were not irrational but neither were they borne out. Some of his questions about biological energy are still unanswered and deserve to be researched. He was a genius who got over excited about a particular line of inquiry and his judgment suffered. On the other hand, his "Mass Psychology of Fascism" deserves to be read by every psychologist, social/political scientist, and all students of human nature and the human condition. His studies of authoritarianism and sexual repression and metaphors such as "the emotional plague" and "the murder of christ" have enormous utility in understanding how authoritarian pathology is transmitted from one generation to the next. The video (part 1 of 3) doesn't seem to make any distinction between the value of his psychological work and his Orgone obsession." See the comment thread<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F171175529598465&mid=3f13497G1…> Reply to this email to comment on this link. Thanks, The Facebook Team See Comment<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F171175529598465&mid=3f13497G1…>The message was sent to michelsub2004(a)gmail.com. If you don't want to receive these emails from Facebook in the future or have your email address used for friend suggestions, you can unsubscribe<http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=c05bf5&u=528245547&mid=3f13497G1f7c632bGe13…>. Facebook, Inc. P.O. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] Article on p2p and deliberative democracy
by Michel Bauwens 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Michael Brooks <mjamal10(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Michel, > > The article is up. Enjoy > > http://www.beyondone.org/index.php?pagetitle=article&aid=83 > > Michael > Thanks Michael, I will excerpt in about 10 days! P2P and Deliberative Democracy approaches compared Michael Brooks: "Michel Bauwens, an independent writer and researcher based in Chiang Mai, Thailand, articulates an open peer-to-peer (P2P) politics that extends the practices of open information cultures to a broader political project. P2P politics builds on a model of deliberative democracy, and a culture where there is a dynamic interplay of all three sectors: private, commons, and government. Could this approach transcend an ossified debate on progress by shifting the debate into new terrain? P2P culture has generated tremendous value in the development of the Internet. Projects such as Linux, open source codes and the open architecture of the net have been built on a communal openness that supports the market transactions found online. Bauwens argues that P2P carries with it an implicit political agenda; a political agenda that protects and expands on the open space created in the P2P economy and a new model of social infrastructures that sustain independent P2P workers. Bauwens articulates an integrative and transcending progress narrative. He embraces the critiques of Illich and Schumacher and follows many of their political leads, however his P2P theory is grounded in the global information economy; the most current trend in the consumer dream. Bauwens supports many activists, and social and financial innovation movements recognizing that they are in sync with his P2P mission. P2P theory is both a process of re-localization, as advocated by the counter-progress theorists, and deep global integration, as articulated by the most optimistic visions of social and informational technologies. “Deliberative democracy theorists are fascinated by ways of deepening democracy and turning it into a practice beyond simply voting. They advocate for creating a community context and practice for solving collective problems and addressing policy challenges.” Deliberative democracy theorists are fascinated by ways of deepening democracy and turning it into a practice beyond simply voting. They advocate for creating a community context and practice for solving collective problems and addressing policy challenges. The deliberative democrats mirror a P2P ethic in the civic sphere. Archon Fung, a deliberative democracy theorist based at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, argues that deliberative democracy is about how communities can best position themselves to sustainably solve problems. Fung contrasts two primary conceptions of democracy with the goal of the deliberative process: The first is majority rule. On this conception, a society is democratic when collective decisions reflect the views of the most numerous. The second is accomplishment. On this less common view, a democratic society is one that has the power to achieve the common aims of its citizens Part of this process, according to Fung, is how we establish and agree on what those goals are. Deliberative theorists focus in practice on creating forums where community members can come together in a spirit of mutual respect and engage in substantive policy discussions. For example, some Scandinavian countries have experimented with citizen input on budget and other key priorities. Even China has developed certain receptivity to deliberative decision-making, according to Mark Leonard’s reporting in What Does China Think. Both P2P and deliberative theorists ask a lot of us. Both approaches want us to play a substantive role in shaping our economic, cultural and political lives. Illich and Schumacher wanted the same. They opposed “outsourcing” value creation and social bonds to large bureaucracies outside of grounded communities. Integrating modes of progress will access a broader range of human capacity and inclination than those proposed by the consumer dream. However, the counter-progress critique is being validated in some of the most globally integrated, complex and abstract aspects of the world economic system. Integrated progress asks us to open our perception of who we are in community, markets, relationships, decision-making and politics." -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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open source microfactory
by Michel Bauwens 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

Dear /Eli, this is VERY important, can you report on this in the p2p foundation blog: http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2011/03/open-source-micro-factory/ -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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