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Fw: Falkvinge on Infopolicy
by Natalie Golovin 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Falkvinge on Infopolicy From: Falkvinge on Infopolicy Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:09 AM To: 10natalie(a)cox.net Subject: Falkvinge on Infopolicy Falkvinge on Infopolicy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. This Is What It Looks Like, Isn’t It? Posted: 25 Oct 2011 12:00 AM PDT Corruption: One of the key insights of the Pirate community is that power is expected to corrupt people. It is not just that it is possible, rather, it is near inevitable. Therefore, you can’t trust people to not be people; instead, you must design the system to survive human nature. I had one such epiphany last week as I got a routine mail from one of many seeking contact with me. Since stepping down from party leadership, my role has primarily been to connect people, observe and give feedback, and think aloud — acting as a classic senior Greycloak without any formal decision power. Now, our movement is clearly in an underdog position against an establishment who are defending its positions of entitlement. We do not want to fix their structures; to them, we are the problem, not the fix. Therefore, being regarded as a disease in the system, you come to expect that your rights are ignored and the privileges of the nobility upheld; a two-tier justice system is enforced with violence. You cannot meet this on the playfield of enforcement violence where you are outnumbered and outgunned; whether we like it or not, we are rightsless. Court proceedings are rigged in every way imaginable; legislative processes scheduled to make it impossible for citizens to be heard. Instead, you must meet this with sunlight and public opinion, which is our home arena where we are unbeatable. Corruption thrives in the dark. In this, we share a lot with the contemporary Occupy movement. So I was not surprised when I got yet another mail last week that called my attention to this two-tier justice system. It was from a large bitcoin player in Asia who asked me to put sunlight on the fact that German police are harassing bitcoin enthusiasts, seizing their money and putting them through no ends of trouble just for using a disruptive technology that could upend the privileges of the ancien regime. Well, this is the kind of things I do. And in this case, it makes sense for everybody. I connect these people with the German Pirate Party, who can call public opinion to this fact and strengthen their role as progressive against entitlements of the old nobility. The bitcoin player gets to strengthen the bitcoin community, the enthusiasts in Germany get to pursue their hobby without clueless police beating them for the fun of it, and the German Piratenpartei gets another feather in the hat with the German public ahead of the next elections. Then it hits me. It hits me like a truckload of bricks being dumped on top of me without warning; I just stare dumbfounded for several minutes as I try to wrap my head around the concepts. Damn, I hear myself say. This is what it looks like, isn’t it? Let me rewrite what happened. A bank of our generation, a net-gen bank in a large economy in Asia, had trouble with law enforcement harassing their customers. “The law enforcement agents are misguided and misinformed in their efforts”, they might have written, “and we would like to help them understand the issues”. Rather than connecting with German law enforcement, where I have no connections, I see an opportunity for personal friends of mine who run a major political party in one of Europe’s key economies to gain from this, embarrassing law enforcement through a public media campaign to stop harassing the bank’s customers, all while gaining votes for the next election. All of my friends win and the Police look stupid. This is indeed what it looks like, isn’t it? The very behavior we are trying to fight? Now, I’m not utilitarian to the fingertips. The behavior we are fighting is unjust because it combines the power of lawmaking and law enforcement with that of personal and business interests; we don’t do that and can’t do that. But just because we are underdogs now — everybody in this story from the bank to the bitcoin enthusiasts to the German Piratenpartei — and trying to upend the privileges of the old, that doesn’t give us the right to take their place to defend a contemporary we live in against the next generation after us if we could. We, too, will grow old. Right now, we are saying that sunlight and transparency will prevail. At the same time, those of us who founded and started these movements are getting hyperconnected among ourselves and with all the major players building the structures of the next generation. (As a measure of the ridiculous extent of connectedness, I’m not only connected to that bank in Asia — I am also a good customer there, and I personally know the people who designed that bank’s security systems. I used to work for them and we have even received the same awards. I don’t think the bank is aware of that fact, though.) What is to say that we won’t just become the old, behave like the old, in 30-40 years when we have grown into much more senior positions in society where our movements have grown into power, and we all know one another and help one another stand above the law when, like above, there is a “misunderstanding with law enforcement”? Events like the one last week are tests. Tests of whether we stand true to our ideals. Being aware of our human nature is a first step of standing true to them in the long run. Most importantly, I am aware that our movements will start to flood with career-hungry people once there are good careers to be made in organizations like the Pirate Parties, and us idealists will gradually grow marginalized. That’s just the way things work. This is why, in my closing keynote to the Pirate Parties International earlier this year, I chose to focus on this fact. “Every 40 years”, I said, “democracy is reconquered by new idealists. Their movements are eventually taken over by career politicians. So will ours.” Therefore, I ended by asking for a favor. “Forty years from now, those of us who are still around, I’d like to ask you for a favor“, I said. “Odds are that when our parties are flooded with career politicians forty years from now, and we are living comfortably in our retirements, a bunch of spoiled young brats will organize out of nowhere and appear to demand everything for free in ways that are both reprehensible and incomprehensible.” “Help them.” You are subscribed to email updates from Falkvinge on Infopolicy To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610

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US: "vast majority of the foreclosures are illegitimate" ?
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27282 excerpt : More than five million US homeowners and counting have had their homes foreclosed upon by banks since the "economic crisis" first began several years ago. But the Massachusetts Supreme Court recently ruled that the vast majority of the foreclosures that took place in the Commonwealth (and likely in most other states) within the past five years are illegitimate because the banks did not, and do not, actually hold the promissory notes for the properties. This means that all mortgage payments made to banks for illegitimately foreclosed upon properties are fraudulent since such banks do not technically own the properties in question. // also see : excerpt : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Cmg-41xACTA#t=424s repayment of mortgages not going back to the holders of the mortgage owners, because of mistracking or destruction of title histories ? "another stage in the ponzi scheme ?" "3rd degree felonies ?"

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Fwd: Police clear protesters near Oakland' s City Hall - Yahoo! News
by Michel Bauwens 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <mailbot(a)news.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:04 AM Subject: Police clear protesters near Oakland's City Hall - Yahoo! News To: michel(a)p2pfoundation.net <http://www.yahoo.com> Your friend mbrown(a)workingethics.com has shared a link with you. ------------------------------ Police clear protesters near Oakland's City Hall - Yahoo! News<http://news.yahoo.com/police-clear-protesters-near-oaklands-city-hall-12361…> <http://news.yahoo.com/police-clear-protesters-near-oaklands-city-hall-12361…> http://news.yahoo.com/police-clear-protesters-near-oaklands-city-hall-12361…<http://news.yahoo.com/police-clear-protesters-near-oaklands-city-hall-12361…> Police in riot gear cleared anti-Wall Street protesters on Tuesday morning from the plaza in front of Oakland's City Hall where they have been camped out for about two weeks, prompting city leaders to advise downtown businesses to delay opening and city employees to come in late. Read the full story<http://news.yahoo.com/police-clear-protesters-near-oaklands-city-hall-12361…> -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fw: [capitalinstitute] Re: About Us
by robert searle 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Disqus <notifications-unregistered(a)disqus.net> To: dharao4(a)yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011, 14:53 Subject: [capitalinstitute] Re: About Us Kim Ann Curtin wrote, in response to Pierregoirand (unregistered): Thanks Pierregoirand. I'd love to stay in touch with you. May I ask you to email me at Kim(a)thewallstreetcoach.com. Link to comment Pierregoirand (unregistered) wrote: CHANGE FINANCE AND GIVE PROGRESSIVE WALL STREET INSIDERS A VOICEHi KimHere is a project that may resonate with your initiative:n the context of Occupy Wall Street and an other imminent financial crisisthis project is about giving conscious executives and employees of banks and financial institutions a voice to support regulation and tax on all financial transactions (FTT)The immediate goal is to construct a secure website where financial insiders can (openly or anonymously) voice their support for the OWS (etc) protesters and clarify what's happening and needed in the financial sector. 1. tell their story as insiders( Wiki Leaks style)2. explore with other conscious executives and employees possible solutions ( here to the financial bubble)3.express support to views that are contrary to t... ----- Claim and manage your comments Stop receiving notifications Unsubscribe from this thread

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Haiti’s Cholera Epidemic May Be Blamed on U.N. Peacekeepers - The Daily Beast
by 10natalie＠cox.net 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/24/haiti-s-cholera-epidemic-m…

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Fw: Fw: Info
by Natalie Golovin 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

From: Chris Nelson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:27 AM To: 10natalie(a)cox.net Subject: Re: Fw: [P2P-F] Fw: Info The old canard about diseased blankets: a tactic used in a few rare, isolated incidents, widely condemned at the time by everyone and never implemented as a general policy. And the loaded term "genocide" implies a conscious, concerted decision to annihilate an entire people, when in fact white-Indian conflicts in North America were entirely local or regional in nature, and Indian tribes frequently allied with the whites to dispossess rival tribes of land (e.g., Custer's scouts were Crows, who hated the Sioux more than the whites). Early federal policy, such as it was, was expulsion, not annihilation, and when westward expansion ran its course, the reservation system. Many reservations were indeed bad (after all, the federal government was administering them), but they were hardly concentration camps explicitly designed to systematically kill the inhabitants; they were meant to confine militant, nomadic peoples from ranging over occupied, cultivated land. Those Indians that were dealt with most harshly were the ones that were the most aggressive: plundering stock, killing settlers, etc. The ones who gave up their previously aggressive ways, like the Navajo, were pretty much left alone. The Indians treated each other with considerably more brutality than we treated them (think "Apocalypto"): unlike Indians, North Americans did not routinely enslave and torture. The comparison with South America is nonsensical: The Spanish and Portuguese had no interest in colonization, only in extracting mineral resources; there was thus no massive transplanted population of farmers vying for control of they land. And they were far more inhumane than the Anglo-Saxons, but simply lacked numerical superiority to make a sizable dent. -----"Natalie Golovin" <10natalie(a)cox.net> wrote: ----- To: "Chris Nelson" <cnelson(a)computer.org> From: "Natalie Golovin" <10natalie(a)cox.net> Date: 10/23/2011 08:05AM Subject: Fw: [P2P-F] Fw: Info I’m exhausted-help me with an answer to this please. From: Michel Bauwens Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:56 AM To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fw: Info Hi Nalatie, I respect that you are finished with the subject for now, and that there is merit in the argument that the Europeans didn't invent warfare and oppression. Nevertheless, I think you underestimate the scale of this near genocide, and how it was driven also in large part by capitalist dynamics which were historically different. In most other civilisations, there was place for pastoral people's and while the rulers changed in tributary systems, the farmers were usually kept in place. Even within the capitalist dynamics, other options were possible; the Natives in Spanish lands, subject to the same diseases you claim wiped out North American natives, in fact largely survived and were integrated in the new model. The Hispanic ruling classes were undoubtedly very cruel as well, but not on the same genocidal scale as the anglo-saxons. You also do not seem cognizant of how disease was used willfully by the whites (contaminated blankets as technique of genocide). In other words, the scale of cruelty and genocide matters, even if placed in a general history of human oppression. Also you may find mp aggressive in his accusations, but believe me, I'm guessing he has read a lot more books than you. The differences do not proceed from a lack of reading. Thanks for being patient amongst these sometimes harsh discussions. Michel On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Natalie Golovin <10natalie(a)cox.net> wrote: I agree with Kevin completely in theory, but as I mentioned earlier-people live in their own times. It's the 21st century and there is no vacant land left in the US. BTW Mexico doesn't allow US citizens or those from Central America to move in and "homestead" The European Tribes treated the Natives no worse than they treated each other. What started off as involuntary manslaughter in the 17th & 18th centuries turned into voluntary manslaughter during the plains wars when growing Federal power & powerful economic interests got involved. There were also violent hostilities among ranchers and farmers. I'm finished with this subject mp READ -----Original Message----- From: mp Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:27 AM To: p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fw: Info borders? Thought you wanted them polices/militarized, whereas Kevin argues they should be open? On 22/10/11 02:58, Natalie Golovin wrote: > Agreed-that was easy. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Carson > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:34 PM > To: P2P Foundation mailing list > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fw: Info > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Natalie Golovin<10natalie(a)cox.net> > wrote: >> Going back to Native Populations..We're talking about 250 years of >> interplay >> among various groups of both tribes and migrating Europeans (subgroup >> religions) at a time when communication/transportation and historical >> knowledge re different civilizations was quite wanting compared to today. >> I >> already mentioned disease accounted for most of the deaths. The >> interactions >> were very diverse and many mostly local until the mid 19th Century (Big >> exception-French& Indian War) Spanish, French& English migrants >> interacted >> very differently with the tribes. In general, flagrant abuses come about >> when economic& political forces join hands. > > Actually, I don't dispute the right of European settlers to homestead > vacant land that actually wasn't being used, on an individual basis. > What I was responding to was your suggestion that the common property > of nomads, homesteaded by the act of using it as hunting grounds, > wasn't "real property" and that European settlers were entitled to > homestead land in such collective use on the grounds either of need > (the overpopulated cities of Europe) or more efficient technical > exploitation of the land. The natives, in general, were usually > amenable to foreign settlements on land they weren't actually using -- > I don't think they had a collective right to exclude people from using > vacant land they weren't using themselves, any more than native > citizens today have a collective ownership over land that a Mexican > national might like to move onto. > >> As to "White Supremacy"-Suffice it to say I get in trouble with my Hard >> Left >> friends when I side with the young Hispanic girls who don't care about >> school, get pregnant in early teens and refuse abortion. These girls >> value >> family and love more than future prospects of good jobs& I think that's >> fine. BTW I worked at a Juvenile Detention center for a couple of years& >> understand the problems of growing up poor in rough neighborhoods. > > I consider myself pretty hard left, and I can't imagine why anyone > would get bent out of shape by that. Anyone who wants to bully girls > like that into having abortions against their own judgment or > inclination seriously needs to consider Willie Nelson's dictum: the > world would be a better place if everybody smoked a joint every day > and minded their own goddamned business. > -- NOT sent from a flippin' "smart"phone - 'cause I like birds... _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation =

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Fw: Fw: Info
by Natalie Golovin 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

From: Chris Nelson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:13 AM To: Natalie Golovin Subject: Re: Fw: [P2P-F] Fw: Info This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Is this person representative of the people you chat with? It is meaningless, and even demeaning, to speak of American Indians, in toto, as a "they," as if all Indians were the same. Some tribes offered their hands in friendship, others offered the tip of an arrow or point of a spear. Indian tribes varied widely in militancy, technological development (though they were all technologically backward compared to Europeans), and political and cultural sophistication. They were as bigoted as any Europeans toward tribes they considered inferior (consider the universally despised "Diggers"), which explains why they never, except in rare instances (e.g.,Tecumseh), made common cause. Many warrior tribes practiced slavery and torture, and some even human sacrifice and cannibalism. There were isolated attempts at "forced acculturation" (long after "first contact"; the Pilgrims, trying to claw a foothold in North America, were hardly in a position to force anything) but they were given up when the Indians exhibited either unwillingness or inability to assimilate. There are still something like 300 Indian languages in North America ('notable for its linguistic diversity," says Wikipedia); sure, many are dying out, but you don't hear Basque or Gaelic much anymore either. There are an equal number of Indian reservations comprising nearly 60 million acres in the US, which is hardly evidence of "genocide." The implementation of the reservation system, the only realistic solution to the inevitable clash of Stone Age pagans and the authors of the Scientific Revolution, Enlightenment, and Industrial Age, was initially a disaster, but through incompetence and corruption, not design. From: "Natalie Golovin" <10natalie(a)cox.net> To: "Chris Nelson" <cnelson(a)computer.org> Date: 10/23/2011 06:06 PM Subject: Fw: [P2P-F] Fw: Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP!! -----Original Message----- From: Mark Janssen Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:39 PM To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fw: Info On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Natalie Golovin <10natalie(a)cox.net> wrote: > The European Tribes treated the Natives no worse than they treated each > other. Whoa. You should really stop talking. You have NO idea what you're talking about. How about forced acculturation, not allowing them to speak their own language (which hold the record of their own history), confined them under threat of violent force into reservations, among other things. But, really, that's probably not even the worst of it -- the worst of it is that for reasons they couldn't ever understand is why you were doing all of these cruel things when they were willing to share it it all with you. Why, when they handed out their hand to be friends, you chopped it off. Remember, they're the ones who gave us Thanksgiving which is still "celebrated" in this nation today. Read the reports made of making first contact with the Native peoples here. You really should read up before propagating the attitudes of conquest. Sorry.... marcos _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation

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Fwd: European Summit - 23Oct - Official Conclusions & Press Release ( pdf )
by Michel Bauwens 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:05 AM Subject: European Summit - 23Oct - Official Conclusions & Press Release ( pdf ) To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com Cc: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Pdf Documents in attachment. Within the conclusions, in addition to policies that aim at, what I perceive as the creation of some ( non-democratic) european economic governance, there is also mention of the "Digital Single Market" http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/pillar.cfm List of actions: - Action 1: Simplifying pan-European licensing for online works<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 2: Preserving orphan works and out of print works<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 3: Oblige public bodies to give access to public sector information<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 4: Wide stakeholder debate on further measures to stimulate a European online content market<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 5: Simplifying the distribution of creative content<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 6: Protecting intellectual property rights online<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 7: Fix a date for migration to Single European Payment & eInvoicing<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 8: Revision of the eSignature directive<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 9: Updating the eCommerce Directive<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 10: Member States to implement laws to support the digital single market<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 11: Member States to transpose the VAT Directive<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 12: Review the EU data protection rules<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 13: Complementing the Consumer Rights Directive<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 14: Explore the possibilities for Alternative Dispute Resolution<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 15: Consult the stakeholders on collective redress<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 16: Code of EU online rights<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 17: Stakeholder platform for EU online trustmarks<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 18: Harmonisation of numbering regimes<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 19: Spectrum Policy plan<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 20: Investigate the cost of non-Europe in the telecoms market<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> - Action 101: Roaming<http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/newsroom/cf/fiche-dae.cfm?action_id…> -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Steve Yegge: Google vs. Amazon
by Kevin Carson 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:01 AM Subject: Great piece from a Google developer To: Kevin Carson <free.market.anticapitalist(a)gmail.com> Thought youd love this Kevin.... he also writes on his experience at Amazon: https://plus.google.com/112678702228711889851/posts/eVeouesvaVX -- Kevin Carson Research Associate, Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com Desktop Regulatory State: The Countervailing Power of Super-Empowered Individuals http://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html

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Fwd: WIPO - change in policy?
by Michel Bauwens 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:15 PM Subject: WIPO - change in policy? To: Michael Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> http://www.ip-watch.org/**weblog/2011/03/15/copyright-** system-must-%E2%80%9Cadapt-or-**perish%E2%80%9D-wipo-director-**says/<http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2011/03/15/copyright-system-must-%E2%80%9Cad…> -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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