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Job opportunity: Digital DIY researcher
by Kevin Flanagan 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

Looking for someone with a PHD http://davidgauntlett.com/digital-diy/job-opportunity-digital-diy-researche… -- https://twitter.com/flgnk Skype: kev.flanagan Phone: +353 87 743 5660

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS
by Anna Harris 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

Thank you Bob. An interesting way of encouraging people to opt for a more 'frugal' way of life, by paying them to do so. But it seems "this will only be possible if the mainstream economy remains healthy". Sorry, but what planet is this guy living on? Do you see any 'health' in the mainstream economy of this world? > On 2 Nov 2015, at 16:12, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Michel Bauwens > <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: >> I'm quite hot myself on the transition income proposal of christian >> arnsperger, as an intermediary step, > > Is this the best citation? > http://p2pfoundation.net/Introducing_an_Economic_Transition_Income > (It's the first search return...)

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

yes! On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Michel Bauwens > <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: > > I'm quite hot myself on the transition income proposal of christian > > arnsperger, as an intermediary step, > > Is this the best citation? > http://p2pfoundation.net/Introducing_an_Economic_Transition_Income > (It's the first search return...) > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS
by Anna Harris 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

Good question Ursula, and not one I can answer fully. It is the term the authors use on the book cover. They say: "FULL AUTOMATION With automation.......machines can increasingly produce all necessary goods and services, while also releasing humanity from the effort of producing them. For this reason, we argue that the tendencies towards automation and the replacement of human labour should be enthusiastically accelerated and targeted as a political project of the left. This is a project that takes an existing capitalist tendency and seeks to push it beyond the acceptable parameters of capitalist social relations." (P109) A vision of a post work society where people's time is free to use as they wish is the basis for this demand. If this becomes a project of the left, hopefully there is more possibility to influence and guide this tendency so that it serves all of humanity rather than just the few. Anna On 2 Nov 2015, at 10:00, Ursula Huws <ursulahuws(a)analyticaresearch.co.uk> wrote: > > What do you mean by ‘full automation’? Ursula > > From: Anna Harris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 02 November 2015 09:19 > To: networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org; p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org > Cc: Ursula Huws <ursulahuws(a)analyticaresearch.co.uk> > Subject: NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS > > This book offers the framework of building a campaign strategy around the demand for full automation and a basic income for all. This is not a short term demand but a vision of what can be achieved if labour groups come together with academics and supporters to design the future. > > Personally I believe they have drawn the supporting network too narrowly. But that only makes the case for this campaign even more strongly. I wrote some time ago: > > BIG (basic income guaranteed) may be revolutionary, but it does not need the economic system to change drastically in order to be introduced. In that sense it is reformist, although the effects are revolutionary. > The big advantages are that > 1. it can be introduced without massive changes to the economic system. > 2. It is a very simple idea which can be appreciated by people without much knowledge of the economy. > 3. It has been tried in pilot experiments, and found to be successful in stimulating economic activity. (Brazil) > 4. Many economists agree (James Robertson, Jeremy Rifkin, Edward Snowden, Richard Swift) that with technology replacing many jobs that previously required human labour, BIG of some sort is necessary. > 5. Naomi Klein highlights it in her latest book This Changes Everything, as one of the game changing battles that 'don't merely aim to change laws, but changes patterns of thought.'(p 641) > > > The authors are coming to Leeds for an open discussion on Nov 14. > > > https://www.facebook.com/events/1624336424483090/ > > I believe that this campaign could appeal widely across all political spectrums, and would welcome more discussion on this list. > > Anna

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] Fwd: [historicalmaterialism] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS
by fauno 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

peter waterman <peterwaterman1936(a)gmail.com> writes: > Just bought the e-book version and note that it is DRM-free. Does this mean > I can send it to all my friends? if it isn't drm'ed and just has watermarks, it probably can be modified to remove your personal data from it. i'm sorry for verso but books are too expensive for sudacas :) -- http://fauno.endefensadelsl.org

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Fwd: How to cut your power bill and even quit the grid
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Daryl Taylor <taylor.daryl.r(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 3:21 PM Subject: How to cut your power bill and even quit the grid Good profile of Melbourne-based social enterprise 'Power to the People' Check this out: How to cut your power bill and even quit the grid http://www.theage.com.au/comment/how-to-cut-your-power-bill-and-even-quit-t… -- Original Post: https://www.linkedin.com/hp/update/6066740487002284032 -- Sent from LinkedIn for iPhone <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/linkedin/id288429040?mt=8> Sent from my iPhone -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS
by Anna Harris 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

Francine, The proposal here is that the universal basic income should not replace the welfare system but be a supplement to "a revived welfare state". (P119) The note quotes an essay by Alyssa Ballistoni. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/01/alive-in-the-sunshine/ I am not able to discuss the maths. What is emphasised here is the diminishment of the work ethic, with the reduction of the working week, and that these are political rather than financial battles. Anna > On 2 Nov 2015, at 10:41, <mestrum(a)skynet.be> <mestrum(a)skynet.be> wrote: > > Ana, > the main problem is that too many people are confusing ‘basic income grant' with a minimum guaranteed income. I fully endorse the latter, a minimum income guaranteed to people out( of work, so they cannhave a life in dignity. The ‘BIG’ goes to all people, whether rich or poor. It is quasi impossible to fund, it is a gigantic gift to employers and maintains inequalities. It does not exist anywhere. > Is it not a better idea to democratize social protection mechanisms, make them fully participative and broaden social, economic and environmental rights (apart from other advantages). If we want to strengthen solidarity in society, this is the way to go. > > Francine > www.socialcommons.eu > > Verzonden met Surface > > Van: Anna Harris > Verzonden: ‎maandag‎ ‎2‎ ‎november‎ ‎2015 ‎10‎:‎19 > Aan: <networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org>, p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org > > This book offers the framework of building a campaign strategy around the demand for full automation and a basic income for all. This is not a short term demand but a vision of what can be achieved if labour groups come together with academics and supporters to design the future. > > Personally I believe they have drawn the supporting network too narrowly. But that only makes the case for this campaign even more strongly. I wrote some time ago: > > BIG (basic income guaranteed) may be revolutionary, but it does not need the economic system to change drastically in order to be introduced. In that sense it is reformist, although the effects are revolutionary. > The big advantages are that > 1. it can be introduced without massive changes to the economic system. > 2. It is a very simple idea which can be appreciated by people without much knowledge of the economy. > 3. It has been tried in pilot experiments, and found to be successful in stimulating economic activity. (Brazil) > 4. Many economists agree (James Robertson, Jeremy Rifkin, Edward Snowden, Richard Swift) that with technology replacing many jobs that previously required human labour, BIG of some sort is necessary. > 5. Naomi Klein highlights it in her latest book This Changes Everything, as one of the game changing battles that 'don't merely aim to change laws, but changes patterns of thought.'(p 641) > > The authors are coming to Leeds for an open discussion on Nov 14. > > https://www.facebook.com/events/1624336424483090/ > > I believe that this campaign could appeal widely across all political spectrums, and would welcome more discussion on this list. > > Anna

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Fwd: [c&f] Parution de "En communs : une introduction aux communs de la connaissance"
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Hervé Le Crosnier <herve(a)cfeditions.com> Date: 2015-11-02 17:14 GMT+07:00 Subject: [c&f] Parution de "En communs : une introduction aux communs de la connaissance" To: "cetf(a)cfeditions.com" <cetf(a)cfeditions.com> Bonjour, Cette fois, je cumule le rôle d'éditeur et d'auteur pour cet ouvrage "En communs : une introduction aux communs de la connaissance". Ce n'est pas le plus aisé pour en faire la promotion... je compte sur vous pour écrire les recensions et les avis que je pourrais simplement relayer. Le livre est en vente : - sur le site de C&F éditions : http://cfeditions.com/en-communs - en commande auprès de votre libraire favori, en ligne ou dans votre ville. Voici ce que dit l'éditeur ;-) Les connaissances sont des ressources sensibles : leur partage permet de réaliser la paix et les autres droits fondamentaux. Au contraire, leur transformation en biens économiques privés dans une « économie de la connaissance » est source d'exclusion, de restriction des savoirs et de limitation de leur circulation. Une longue tradition d'étude des communs matériels existe souligne le rôle des communautés pour la gestion de ressources finies impliquant un usage dit rival. Le numérique introduit quant à lui une opportunité nouvelle par son caractère additif et multipliable. Sensibiliser et assurer la gestion et le partage des connaissances, alerter des risques et méthodes d'enclosure, définir le faisceau de droits adapté, ouvrent de nouvelles perspectives portées par de nombreux mouvements issus des transformations numériques de la société (logiciels libres, creative commons, accès libre aux publications scientifiques, etc.). Dans ce recueil de ses articles publiés au cours de ces dernières années, Hervé Le Crosnier trace les contours d'une approche ouverte et coopérative des savoirs. Vous pouvez télécharger un extrait en pdf : http://cfeditions.com/en-communs/ressources/en-communs_extrait.pdf Sincèrement, Hervé Le Crosnier ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Liste d'information de C&F éditions Pour s'abonner : http://mail.cfcloud.fr/cfeditions/subscribe/cetf Pour se désabonner, envoyer un mail à sympa(a)cfeditions.com avec comme sujet et comme message le texte suivant : unsubscribe cetf Pour accéder aux archives : https://mail.cfcloud.fr/cfeditions/arc/cetf -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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Re: [P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS
by Michel Bauwens 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

for studies on how this can be funded, see the material at bien.org, one can be against the basic income, but the argument that it can't be funded is unfounded, Michel On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM, <mestrum(a)skynet.be> wrote: > Ana, > the main problem is that too many people are confusing ‘basic income > grant' with a minimum guaranteed income. I fully endorse the latter, a > minimum income guaranteed to people out( of work, so they cannhave a life > in dignity. The ‘BIG’ goes to all people, whether rich or poor. It is quasi > impossible to fund, it is a gigantic gift to employers and maintains > inequalities. It does not exist anywhere. > Is it not a better idea to democratize social protection mechanisms, make > them fully participative and broaden social, economic and environmental > rights (apart from other advantages). If we want to strengthen solidarity > in society, this is the way to go. > > Francine > www.socialcommons.eu > > Verzonden met Surface > > *Van:* Anna Harris <anna(a)shsh.co.uk> > *Verzonden:* ‎maandag‎ ‎2‎ ‎november‎ ‎2015 ‎10‎:‎19 > *Aan:* <networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org> > <networkedlabour(a)lists.contrast.org>, p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org > > This book offers the framework of building a campaign strategy around the > demand for full automation and a basic income for all. This is not a short > term demand but a vision of what can be achieved if labour groups come > together with academics and supporters to design the future. > > Personally I believe they have drawn the supporting network too narrowly. > But that only makes the case for this campaign even more strongly. I wrote > some time ago: > > BIG (basic income guaranteed) may be revolutionary, but it does not need > the economic system to change drastically in order to be introduced. In > that sense it is reformist, although the effects are revolutionary. > The big advantages are that > 1. it can be introduced without massive changes to the economic system. > 2. It is a very simple idea which can be appreciated by people without > much knowledge of the economy. > 3. It has been tried in pilot experiments, and found to be successful in > stimulating economic activity. (Brazil) > 4. Many economists agree (James Robertson, Jeremy Rifkin, Edward Snowden, > Richard Swift) that with technology replacing many jobs that previously > required human labour, BIG of some sort is necessary. > 5. Naomi Klein highlights it in her latest book This Changes Everything, > as one of the game changing battles that 'don't merely aim to change laws, > but changes patterns of thought.'(p 641) > > The authors are coming to Leeds for an open discussion on Nov 14. > > https://www.facebook.com/events/1624336424483090/ > > I believe that this campaign could appeal widely across all political > spectrums, and would welcome more discussion on this list. > > Anna > > _______________________________________________ > NetworkedLabour mailing list > NetworkedLabour(a)lists.contrast.org > http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/

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NEW FROM VERSO: INVENTING THE FUTURE BY NICK SRNICEK AND ALEX WILLIAMS
by Anna Harris 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

This book offers the framework of building a campaign strategy around the demand for full automation and a basic income for all. This is not a short term demand but a vision of what can be achieved if labour groups come together with academics and supporters to design the future. Personally I believe they have drawn the supporting network too narrowly. But that only makes the case for this campaign even more strongly. I wrote some time ago: BIG (basic income guaranteed) may be revolutionary, but it does not need the economic system to change drastically in order to be introduced. In that sense it is reformist, although the effects are revolutionary. The big advantages are that 1. it can be introduced without massive changes to the economic system. 2. It is a very simple idea which can be appreciated by people without much knowledge of the economy. 3. It has been tried in pilot experiments, and found to be successful in stimulating economic activity. (Brazil) 4. Many economists agree (James Robertson, Jeremy Rifkin, Edward Snowden, Richard Swift) that with technology replacing many jobs that previously required human labour, BIG of some sort is necessary. 5. Naomi Klein highlights it in her latest book This Changes Everything, as one of the game changing battles that 'don't merely aim to change laws, but changes patterns of thought.'(p 641) The authors are coming to Leeds for an open discussion on Nov 14. https://www.facebook.com/events/1624336424483090/ I believe that this campaign could appeal widely across all political spectrums, and would welcome more discussion on this list. Anna

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