April 2011 - P2P-Foundation - lists.ourproject.org

interesting typology of 'working as one'
by Michel Bauwens 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

see https://www.asone.org/asone/Archetypes.html -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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computers and love through music, a clip/kino suggestion ..
by Michel Bauwens 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

http://www.bodyspacesociety.eu/2011/02/14/my-networked-valentine-half-a-cen… -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] "Across the Threshold" - Charles Eisenstein
by Michel Bauwens 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

thanks Dante, I appreciate Charles work, such as the Ascent of Humanity a lot, and am happy his new book will be out soon, if you search is name on both our blog and wiki, you'll find we covered him on several occasions, Michel On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > below, link to Charles Eisenstein article ( thanks to Matt ! ) > > http://www.realitysandwich.com/across_threshold_0 > > and excerpt further below. > > also see "Sacred Economics" : > http://www.countercurrents.org/eisenstein250410.htm > > which in my opinion can complement Michel Bauwens "The Next Buddha Will be > a Collective" : > > http://p2pfoundation.net/Next_Buddha_Will_Be_A_Collective > > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-next-buddha-will-be-a-collective-part-two… > > http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Spirituality > > ---- > > > excerpt of http://www.realitysandwich.com/across_threshold_0 > > *"The first thing it does is to prevent us from whole-heartedly > participating in the old normal. We can do our best to participate in the > program, we can go through the motions, but deep down we know that it isn't > the real thing. The effort to direct life energy at goals unworthy of our > knowledge is exhausting. Eventually, our reservoirs of health and luck > depleted, we enter a state of crisis. Whether it is health, relationship, > money, or work-related, the crisis is a birthing from the old normal. We > cannot go back, yet neither do we know how to go forward. This is a special > state, the threshold between worlds. Many of us are there right now, > individually; the collective human body is approaching it as well."* > * > * > > ---- > > A simple complex view I ( Dante ) wish to share, regarding movement of > position of experience of awareness > > note : can be non-linear awareness ( various vectors side by side ), based > on context, and also mirrors between prototypes, systems, and ego systems. > > based on a vector I ll send in a next email : > > transition from addiction - mirrors, fear, "need to control" , to awareness > of non-suffering from attachment and contemplation ( and empathy ) , and > from contemplation, maintaining choice of presence into every moment, into > intention, choice of intention ( control as contribution to what "can" > through the choice of wanting to use the self according to intention ), > choice of pilgrimage, , finding others with whom to share intention, > manifesting presence of intention into protoypes ( including structural ), > and emergence of intention via mutually supporting prototypes into systems > open to intentional awareness ( reversing flow of experience of awareness of > addicted systems, healing Qi , opening to service and energy from larger > "matrioshka" while still being able to see and choose to use contained > matrioshka dimensions. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Matthew Slater <matslats(a)gmail.com> > Date: Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:31 AM > Subject: more charles eisenstein > To: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> > > > Please read this. > He's not talking about money here, but expanding on Tikh Nat hanh when he > said 'the next buddha is the sangha' > So it's about embracing community as the most modern form of spirituality. > Thought you might like it > Matthew > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Charles Eisenstein <charles(a)panenthea.com> > Date: 17 April 2011 13:24 > Subject: new essay > To: > > > Hello everyone, > > First, I have an article on Reality Sandwich, "Across the Threshold", about > the difficulty in staying in the more beautiful world we are shown through > special experiences. And why the age of teh guru has ended, and other > things. http://www.realitysandwich.com/across_threshold_0 > > Second, I want to tell everyone that* Sacred Economics* is finally > finished, after more than two years of work. It will be published by North > Atlantic Books under the Evolver imprint on July 12. It will also be on line > -- the plan is to serialize it on Reality Sandwich. > > Finally, I'll mention a few upcoming speaking events that are on my > website. State College, PA April 23. Hartford, CT May 13. Harrisburg, May > 26. Philly June 4. Madrid, Spain, June 16. > > Charles > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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following 2009 discussion - buddha as collective
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

related to http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch_listcultures.org/2009-May/002… where I notice "What if that ethos was in fact the best way to experience the Primordial Unity?" and also "So, I reject any notion that reality is a pure construction of the human mind." It leads me to re-member these views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism excerpt : "descriptors denote a standpoint that *Cit* (consciousness) is the one reality. Matter is not separated from consciousness, but rather identical to it. There is no gap between God <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God> and the world. The world is not an illusion (as in Advaita Vedanta<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta>), rather the perception of duality is the illusion." which may possibly have a parallel with some of the points you seemed to put forward, even though I am also aware, from your email that you said, at that moment "I make no claims to metaphysical expertise and must remain agnostic in these matters."

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"critical networks" : requirements and development practices ?
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

Hi Michel, Hi p2pf'ers did you come across materials laying out a synthesis of very specific characteristics and requirements around what I am tempted to call "critical networks" ? Perhaps there is some other name for this ? I think of "critical network" as distinctive from, yet potentially including , the concept of "critical mass". In the way I envision it, "Critical Network" where the *required "critical" properties for an operational or emergent networked system* may not merely be a mass of users, but specific properties ( such as measurable forms of reciprocity, physical location, resources, knowledge and skills, or other variables ) related to the constituents and context for specific intentional "process economies" to be enabled. Including the mode of access to resources required for specific kinds of emergence. I want to *understand ( and have access to examples of ) various characteristics required to facilitate and multiply "local process economies" for viable and convivial living systems* http://p2pfoundation.net/Process_Economy *as to document step by step strategy proposals,* not merely in a "enclosed" / monetized approach, but rather within a larger wealth acknowledgment system http://p2pfoundation.net/Wealth_Acknowledgment_Systems towards communal sharing in intentional economic networks. I put an *emphasis on understanding "starting points" for ( at first small scale )* *"critical networks".* I can find inspiration in homebrew revolutions ( and examples such as e-farm , open manufacturing, ... ), but also recommendations related to the set up of "transition towns" ( http://www.transitionnetwork.org/resources/transition-primer ) I can also find inspiration in ( reading excerpts online ) of books such as http://www.integralcity.com/ and the p2p urbanism and p2pf blog , wiki and lists. ///// What I wish, is to define requirements more accurately, *offering post-industrial alternatives* to sometimes publicly supported "gentrification urban development models" ( which I observe here in Brussels too ), that seem to be aligned or inspired by Richard Florida's Creative Class approach of development http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_class I am also particularly interested in converging such understanding into building up "games" , and use such games as a form of synthesis practice to empower "critical networks" for a intentional information and communication framework, with incentives and related metrics, empowering collective intelligence and collaborative action. I am aware such question may open up a large conceptual map, including the ones already layed out by you and p2pf peers. I am interested in condensing it, into specifics, specific step by step examples. e-farm may offer an example. I want to know where and how to focus/aggregate attention as first steps, and bring it into "real social" ( http://p2pfoundation.net/Real_Social ) "real games". For the moment, I consider "Housing Cooperatives" and "Group Purchasing Organizations" as starting points in post-industrial frameworks, as some first aggregator layers, on which to build other relational dynamics around food and housing. Food production, food logistics, but also food as aggregator, such as http://sharewiki.org/en/Semantic_Kitchen , and then alternative currencies and wealth acknowledgment systems supporting more and more complex transaction potentials. I also like the approach of learning spaces as aggregators for bringing together "Critical Network" requirements and development practices, such as the "University" project promoted by Dougald : http://dougald.posterous.com/day-27-help-me-start-a-university Perhaps some of you read ( I did not ) the "integral city" book. Is there a comprehensive list of requirements set out ? Also , what are the capital requirements for such kind of "ventures", as to converge or purchase infrastructure requirements to enable the functioning of a critical network for a p2p resilient and convivial civilization of collaborative individualists? In addition to development practices, I wish to outline all of these requirement into modules, that help define the costs on a context based approach for "business plans", packaged and sold as "use value insurance" ...

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Distributed Debate and Consensus Forum, request for comments
by Michel Bauwens 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

Dear Michael, I have collected a great deal of material under http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Facilitation and on delicious, http://delicious.com/mbauwens/P2P-Facilitation but also http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Collective-Choice-Systems you may want to talk with Philippe Aigrain, maker of a sophisticated system for mutual policy dialogue and making, Michel Michael Grube <michael.grube(a)gmail.com> Apr 17 05:10PM -0400 ^<?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=ohhl4rw8mbn4#12f66206f2656931_digest_top> Guys, I'm in the process of hacking together a (really) rough version of a peer decision making system. The major points are: - The system is decentralized (running on a peer to peer network) - The system stores its own reference content (we are not feeding off of the already existing web) - There is a structured, systematic process for argumentation. The idea is not so much using logic to prove somebody correct or incorrect, but simply to help the group decide what it believess is a good decision. The first two points have been done over and over so many times that they are relatively straight forward to implement at this point. However the last point is the one I really need all of your help with. In fact I was at first inclined to implement this over Freenet at first(Seriously guys, most underrated peer to peer network in existence - I can't stress this enough) and eventually will probably use some sort of lightweight implementation of the Freenet routing algorithm eventually but really at the moment I just want to get something running. What makes a good argumentation and decision making system? Wikipedia has some good material on this topic, but as most of the active members on this list are organizers in some form I thought it would be helpful to get input from you all. I'll make a github repo tonight and post some related code that I'm working on (it will *not* be working) later on this week. Ok guys, let me have it! Michael -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Economic History : Global Power and Global Government: Part 3
by Michel Bauwens 17 Apr '11

17 Apr '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:52 PM Subject: Economic History : Global Power and Global Government: Part 3 To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14614 <http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14614>excerpt : regarding oil price hikes : * * *As Peter Gowan stated in The Globalization Gamble, “the oil price rises were the result of US influence on the oil states and they were arranged in part as an exercise in economic statecraft directed against America’s ‘allies’ in Western Europe and Japan. And another dimension of the Nixon administration’s policy on oil price rises was to give a new role, through them, to the US private banks in international financial relations.” He explained that the Nixon administration was pursuing a higher oil price policy two years before the Yom Kippur War, and “as early as 1972 the Nixon administration planned for the US private banks to recycle the petrodollars when OPEC finally did take US advice and jack up oil prices.”* Regarding Debt as tool for Neo Liberal Economic Policy : * “The phrase ‘Washington Consensus’ was coined to capture the agreement upon economic policy that was shared between the two major international financial institutions in Washington (IMF and World Bank) and the US government itself. This consensus stipulated that the best path to economic development was through financial and trade liberalization and that international institutions should persuade countries to adopt such measures as quickly as possible.”[93] The debt crisis provided the perfect opportunity to quickly impose these conditions upon countries that were not in a position to negotiate and with no time to spare, desperately in need of loans. Without the debt crisis, such policies may have been subject to greater scrutiny, and with a case-by-case analysis of countries adopting SAPs, the world would become quickly aware of their dangerous implications. The debt crisis was absolutely necessary in implementing the SAPs on an international scale in a short amount of time. The effect became quite clear, as the result “of these policies on the population of developing countries was devastating. The 1980s is known as the ‘lost decade’ of development. Many developing countries’ economies were smaller and poorer in 1990 than in 1980. Over the 1980s and 1990s, debt in many developing countries was so great that governments had few resources to spend on social services and development.”[94] With the debt crisis, countries in the developing world were “[s]tarved of international finance, [and] states had little choice but to open their economies to foreign investors and trade.”[95] The “Third World” was recaptured in the cold grasp of economic colonialism under the auspices of neo-liberal economic theory. * -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] [OK] Decision Making
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 16 Apr '11

16 Apr '11

Nice ! potential materials to combine with this wiki ? http://www.open-organizations.org/ On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Tiberius Brastaviceanu < tiberius.brastaviceanu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am working on a document about Decision Making in an open > and decentralized context. > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ukADSYqMntWLAi4Q1tmrccNtFQcP8DT8xL0aoum… > > > -- > t!b! > http://www.google.com/profiles/tiberius.brastaviceanu > > -- > This is a message from the OpenKollab Google Group located at > http://groups.google.com/group/openkollab?hl=en > To post to this group, send email to openkollab(a)googlegroups.com

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Fwd: Report on the introduction event "Open Commons Region Linz", 11 April 2011 at the "Knowledge Tower Linz"
by Michel Bauwens 16 Apr '11

16 Apr '11

commons-based city policies, fyi ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurent Straskraba <laurent_straskraba(a)yahoo.com> Date: Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:40 AM Subject: Report on the introduction event "Open Commons Region Linz", 11 April 2011 at the "Knowledge Tower Linz" To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Dear Michel, here is my report based on the notes I took during the presentations: The event was opened by Councilwoman Eva Schobesberger (Green Party), who is also head of the VHS Knowledge Tower, where the event took place. They called for a democratization of the media and will have free access to knowledge, knowledge processing, knowledge transfer, etc. These have a long history in Linz with the beginning of free initiatives - for example - in 1996, servus.at (Citizens Internet network and public ISP) was founded. They were joined by Radio FRO and in a shorter past dorfTV, media lab, Johannes Kepler University and the University of Arts Linz. The big goal is to establish networks, based on Linz initiatives and their partners. The VHS (public adult education facility) "Knowledge Tower Linz" is here especially used for a low-threshold access for all. Councilman Johann Mayr (Social Democrats Party) referred to the local council's decision in 2008, and to in his view essential democratic and techno-political reasons for the emergence and continued expansion. Thus, under the direction of Univ.-Prof. Dr. Pomberger a study was written - and complemented to perform the design and implementation by the ICT department Linz. He expressed a clear invitation to collaborate on all interested parties. Gerin Trautenberger of microgiants (company) presented the concept of Creative Commons license and spoke out in favor of putting ideas to the public - especially when these are/were already publicly funded. I.e. longer existing sources of music or design over time become public domain. Referring to the trends of remix, blogging, etc. it's important to integrate the principles of scientific work (providing the author and work) in a free culture. In the future, enhanced design, architecture (e.g. settlers movement), and products would turn into "Commons" - that can be used with reference to the author and be reproduced. He told from his work that rights management often already need more efforts than the creative process. As examples of the development he mentioned http://www.ronen-kadushin.com/ and http://lookbook.nu/look/980127 It's important to mention - especially in the knowledge society - that copyright is still with the author. Only the right of use can be sold. In his work with the Creative Industries Austria, it can be made with a time stamp for identification. Nicholas Duerk of X-Net held his presentation on a stand with rolling paper, a good gag. He reported on the possibilities for the use of open source as a business model, taking up mainly services (administration, training, maintenance). His company is in contact with a network of 60 companies in and around Linz. A new business model therefore is the sale of software that includes its source code, e.g. for robot controllers. It is important to him that networks are caused by "word of mouth, and without the "right chemistry" all is little or nothing. As examples of their products, he mentioned a) Disc Maker for burning invididualised sets of CD content and packaging and production on demand, b) mylabel which can bring (particularly smaller) bands to the market. Minimum production quantity: 1 piece! In sum, it all comes down to him through personal networks. Finally, the actual main part, presented by Gerald Kempinger (Managing ICT Linz) and Stefan Pavel (Project Manager for Open Commons Region Linz). Since the order is placed by the council of Linz and the above-mentioned study in 2008, it will be a genuine initiative of Linz Open Commons in a broad sense and in the direction of free-access of public goods. This should apply to citizens as well as businesses, with clear and predictable rules, based on Creative Commons licenses. They will work as a networking point for further initiatives and Open Commons, which will be clearly linked to the city of Linz. This initiative also has its own advisory board, established with the participation of internationally acknowledged contributers (more on that here: http://www.linz.at/leben/55475.asp) - I would like to particularly mention Markus Beckedahl, with his website netzpolitik.orgwhich also works as a corresponding high reach medium. For more information in the future check the blog ( http://opencommons.public1.linz.at/) the Facebook group ( http://www.facebook.com/pages/Open-Commons-Region-Linz/203734332987997) and forthcoming local events. Furthermore, the following are considered priorities: a) geo-data, b) Statistical data (open standards), c) schedules, ...! all this as OPEN Creative Commons Linzenz (CC BY). The competition "Apps4Linz" is another momentum in which everyone can take part. The 1st Meeting of the Advisory Board will be held on 20 May 2011 and for spring 2012 there is a BarCamp or fair/congress planned. On this subject it is true again: It begins in Linz. A big thank you and congratulations from me for this initiative! Also in that context, and since this book was made availabe just now as a PDF download: See "freedom on the spot: local network policy manual" by Christian Forsterleitner et al ( http://www.freienetze.at/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id = 85 & Itemid = 37) Greetings from Linz, city of the Ars Electronica Center and Festival, Laurent -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Genetically Modified Food Issues - Video
by Michel Bauwens 16 Apr '11

16 Apr '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:56 AM Subject: Genetically Modified Food Issues - Video To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com, sustainable_solidarity(a)yahoogroups.com, hc_ecology(a)yahoogroups.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hls6CDw6dVM -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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