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uk uncut and us mainstreet movements
by Michel Bauwens 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

http://www.truth-out.org/you-have-more-money-your-wallet-than-bank-america-… I wonder if someone could report on this new type of taxation movements that are emerging in the anglo-saxon world, first in the UK, now in the U.S.? Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Another Blogpost on ICC
by Michel Bauwens 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Silke Helfrich <Silke.Helfrich(a)gmx.de> Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:43 AM Subject: Another Blogpost on ICC To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Cc: Heike Loeschmann <Loeschmann(a)boell.de> Michel, please add to the ICC Website! http://commonsblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/mit-big-society-haben-commons-n… Thank you! Silke -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Primary Global Reserve Currency: the Con?
by Michel Bauwens 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anthony Judge <anthony.judge(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:52 AM Subject: Primary Global Reserve Currency: the Con? To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Hi Michel Possibly of interest, my latest: Primary Global Reserve Currency: the Con? Cognitive implications of a prefix for sustainable confidelity http://www.laetusinpraesens.org/docs10s/conplay.php It has an annex which may also be of interest: Embodiment of Identity in Conscious Creativity Challenge of encompassing "con" http://www.laetusinpraesens.org/docs10s/conplayb.php Best Tony -- Anthony Judge <anthony.judge(a)gmail.com> www.laetusinpraesens.org -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Article : You Have More Money in Your Wallet Than Bank of America Pays in Federal Taxes
by Michel Bauwens 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:20 AM Subject: Article : You Have More Money in Your Wallet Than Bank of America Pays in Federal Taxes To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com, sustainable_solidarity(a)yahoogroups.com, hc_ecology(a)yahoogroups.com http://www.truth-out.org/you-have-more-money-your-wallet-than-bank-america-… Saturday 26 February 2011 by: Zaid Jilani | *ThinkProgress | News Analysis*<http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/26/main-street-tax-cheats/> ** <http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/26/main-street-tax-cheats/>excerpt : ... as politicians are asking ordinary Americans to sacrifice their education, their health, their labor rights, and their wellbeing to tackle budget deficits, some of the world’s richest multinational corporations are getting away with shirking their responsibility and paying nothing. ThinkProgress has assembled a short but far from comprehensive list of these tax dodgers — corporations which have rigged the tax system to their advantage so they can reap huge profits and avoid paying taxes: - *BANK OF AMERICA*: In 2009, Bank of America* didn’t pay a single penny in federal income taxes,* exploiting the tax code so as to avoid paying its fair share. “Oh, yeah, this happens all the time<http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/26/91119/bank-of-america-wells-fargo-mig…>,” said Robert Willens, a tax accounting expert interviewed by McClatchy. “If you go out and try to make money and you don’t do it, *why should the government pay you for your losses?*” asked Bob McIntyre of Citizens for Tax Justice. The same year, the mega-bank’s top executives received pay “ranging from $6 million to nearly $30 million.”<http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/02/27/1276388/bofa-exec-pay-remains-h…> - *BOEING:* Despite *receiving billions of dollars from the federal government every single year* in taxpayer subsidies from the U.S. government, Boeing didn’t “pay a dime<http://www.ctj.org/pdf/boeing0211.pdf>of U.S. federal corporate income taxes” between 2008 and 2010. -* CITIGROUP: *Citigroup’s deferred income taxes for the third quarter of 2010 amounted to a grand total of $0.00<http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Citigroup_%28C%29/Data/Deferred_Income_Taxes…>. At the same time, Citigroup has continued to pay its staff lavishly. “John Havens, the head of Citigroup’s investment bank, is expected to be the bank’s highest paid executive for the second year in a row<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/business/25citi.html> , *with a compensation package worth $9.5 million.”* - *EXXON-MOBIL:* The oil giant uses offshore subsidiaries<http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/04/06/exxon-zero-taxes/> in the Caribbean to avoid paying taxes in the United States. Although Exxon-Mobil paid $15 billion in taxes in 2009,* not a penny of those taxes went to the American Treasury.*This was the same year that the company overtook Wal-Mart<http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/20/exxon-mobil-topples-wal-mart-to-sit-atop…> in the Fortune 500. Meanwhile the total compensation of Exxon-Mobil’s CEO the same year was over $29,000,000.<http://www.companypay.com/executive/compensation/exxon-mobil-corp.asp?yr=20…> - *GENERAL ELECTRIC: *In 2009, General Electric — the world’s largest corporation<http://www.richestpersons.net/top-10-biggest-companies-in-the-world/> — filed more than 7,000 tax returns and *still paid nothing to U.S. government. *They managed to do this by a tax code <http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/22/corporate-tax-offshore/>that essentially subsidizes companies for losing profits and allows them to set up tax havens overseas. That same year GE CEO Jeffery Immelt — who recently scored a spot <http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-21/obama-taps-ge-s-immelt-for-economy…>on a White House economic advisory board — “earned total compensation of $9.89 million.”<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704869304575103960593817310.h…> In 2002, Immelt displayed his lack of economic patriotism, saying, “When I am talking to GE managers, I talk China, China, China, China, China<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suN-9FrBi7E>….I am a nut on China. Outsourcing from China is going to grow to 5 billion.” *- WELLS FARGO: *Despite being the fourth largest bank in the country<http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2010/03/no-taxes-for-bank-of-america-ny…>, Wells Fargo was* able to escape paying federal taxes* by writing all of its losses off after its acquisition of Wachovia. Yet in 2009 the *chief executive of Wells Fargo also saw his compensati**on “more than double” *as he earned “a salary of $5.6 million paid in cash <http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/03/03/us-wellsfargo-stumpf-idUSTRE6225P…>and stock and stock awards of more than $13 million.” -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Matt Taibbi: "Why Isn’t Wall Street in Jail?"
by Michel Bauwens 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

well worth watching ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:07 AM Subject: Matt Taibbi: "Why Isn’t Wall Street in Jail?" To: econowmix(a)googlegroups.com http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2011/2/22/matt_taibbi_why_isnt_wall_street… -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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how copyright free creates a lot more jobs than copyright
by Michel Bauwens 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Dear Tom, this is really important for us, could you report on that, see http://falkvinge.net/2011/02/25/kill-copyright-create-jobs/ thanks, Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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(no subject)
by Dr.Ghassan 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Dear Officials and Colleagues The Global Civil Society I am writing on behalf of the Centre for Applied Research in Education ( www.care-palestine.com ) . We have become aware of your efforts and feel there could be great benefit from a collaboration between us. CARE has been working with local communities in the Occupied Palestinian Territory since 1989. We believe in reducing violence, achieving stability and building sustainable peace though educational means, and are committed to building relationships and partnerships with appropriate leaders and organisations. We strive towards democratising Palestinian education through participatory approach, minimising effects of violence and adopting dialogue as a way of life. We have recognised an imperative need for training workshops for children, university students, teachers and head-teachers, to enhance knowledge and understanding in order to combat the negative effects of on-going conflict through non-violent conflict resolution, psychological treatment and educational programs. We place great emphasis on increasing our participant’s role within their communities. CARE takes care to promote public awareness, encourage participation in political and community leadership and to build networks amongst communities. We would like to suggest that You and the Global Civil Society to become involved in our projects. There is scope for close cooperation on possible ventures and exciting new programs. The situation in the OPT requires urgent attention and we hope that, with your help , we can look to expand our services and develop our programs in order to offer the most effective services and to reach those most in need. We look forward to hearing from you and remains , Yours in peace , Dr.Ghassan Abdallah Director of CARE

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important study on collective intelligence
by Michel Bauwens 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

would be really great to have some expert comments on this study for the p2p blog, see http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/verdoux20110119 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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voxeu.org - interesting venue for publishing ( economic ) papers ?
by Dante-Gabryell Monson 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

http://www.voxeu.org/ http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3 * * *VoxEU.org is a policy portal set up by the Centre for Economic Policy Research ( http://www.CEPR.org ) in conjunction with a consortium of national sites. **Vox aims to promote research-based policy analysis and commentary by leading scholars. The intended audience is economists in governments, international organisations, academia and the private sector as well as journalists specializing in economics, finance and business. * * * *Assistance for the Centre's work on Vox has been provided by the European Union, through its programme of support for bodies active at the European level in the field of active European citizenship.* * * *Vox encourages professional economists to submit columns which should be:* *original work not published or posted elsewhere;* *500-1500 words in length;* *written at an analytical level that is higher than a typical newspaper column but very much more accessible than a journal article;* *policy relevant and research-based.*

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Re: [P2P-F] 12 things you need to know about protests in Wisconsin, USA + Unions and P2P alternatives
by richard adler 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Great information here, Richard, thank you for sharing it. RCA On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Richard Schulte < richard(a)flywheelcollective.com> wrote: > Thanks Sam for bringing this up! > > Flywheel had the pleasure of meeting with the Ohio Employee Ownership > Center several days ago. We brought up this specific concept to Roy > Messing, their Cooperative Development Program director, and he brought > up a few possible constraints, but definitely an interest in the > possibilities. > > Apparently it varies widely state by state, but laws around the use of > pension funds, 401(k) programs, health funds, and other major benefit > funds which are often held in common by workers can be somewhat > restrictive towards investment. However, he expressed that he would be > further exploring the possibilities and spreading the idea. The > additional option is that some of the companies who employ these workers > may also be interested in contributing towards these investments, and > the imagination widens when other community investment groups are > involved. > > After reflecting on that option, it seems that peer-based manufacturing > could present a very interesting opportunity for many of the extant > manufacturers to be able to assist in the 'fill-in' of their supply > chains by lending towards the creation of extensive networks of small, > agile, and lean micromanufacturing shops employing p2p methods. > > Investment bodies > ----- > > Collective Assets > > - Pension Funds - these are often restricted to only 8-15% out at any > given time, especially as older generations begin to collect retirement. > However, this could change with legislation that may or may not already > be out there. > - Health benefits plans > - 401(k) Plans - many unions found their pension funds tapped out by > shoddy investment practices and switched to these plans. The issue > being that they have less control as these are often managed by more > conglomerated entities. > - Collective investment stocks such as ESOP plans and worker equity > > Community Assets > > - Credit Unions - Federal CUs are restricted to about 25% of their > assets being allocated towards business loans, however legislation is > being considered that would bump this up to 50%. Of course its on the > backburner, but with greater pressure that could change. > - Building & Loan Funds - These are co-op institutions as well that can > invest in building projects, commercial building loans, and other types > of business loans. > - Community Banks - Smallscale community banks can also put a lot of > weight behind things, and are often not as restricted as credit unions. > - Distributed Community Lending - so say you are starting a local worker > co-op, and folks all over town are excited about it. Give them the > chance to invest directly in the business, or possibly a many-to-many > RLF in your community! > > FAQ > > > Question: Why focus on such small and localized entities? Don't they > have less capital? > > Answer: There is greater reliability, especially in distressed times, as > these types of institutions are less likely to have risky investment > portfolios. They have very significant levels of capital to work with > as adoption of their services grow because of greater consumer > confidence and local identity. > > A good example of collective benefits in action was during the Hugo Boss > debacle. Remember - Hugo Boss's shareholders were getting antsy and > trying to close down a Cleveland facility to move it to Turkey. Despite > lots of great on the ground organizing, the battle was almost lost until > a very unexpected development occurred - just before the shareholders > made the decision to liquidate the assets of the Cleveland operation, > the company in Columbus that managed the pension funds, retirement > plans, and collective benefits of the Hugo Boss workers, who happened to > own 20% of the shares of the company, threatened divestment if the > operation moved overseas. The tables were turned, and the collectively > held benefits of the workers actually wielded enough weight to stop a > major company in its tracks. > > > Question: Why not target larger, more conglomerated financial entities, > venture capital funds, etc.? > > Answer: Consider their priorities- most financial entities that have > stake in wallstreet and global commerce have competitive investments > elsewhere to the united states, especially in manufacturing. They > demand faster and higher returns, and often are less likely to foster > projects that do not fit their vision. Having these kinds of investors > often leads to uncertainty and poor management of projects, as > shareholders will often not share the interests of the workers. Also, > with experience from major venture capital programs in our area such as > NorTech and JumpStart (pres. Obama just spoke with these folks), we are > WELL aware of how antsy these folks get just around open source software > - and they are IP obsessed. Presenting them with Open Hardware Licenses > would probably drive them up the wall. > > > Strategic Considerations > - - - - > > What Unions often provide in the greatest is a huge base of members, and > often a very progressive vision (take the United Steel Workers, for > example). They are motivated to get their workers on the job > (especially in manufacturing), and know how to mobilize resources around > such things as training, certifications, and institutional support. > They can attract state and federal funding for recruitment and training > programs, and help with compliance. Unions can also give a lot of > credence and credibility to any kind of campaign or concept, across many > spheres of social and political influence. > > Gap Financing - Union benefit plans and worker equity could act as a gap > financing measure, or a vote of confidence, to attract additional > funding from community financial institutions. For example, they could > cover the down payment for a building and initial equipment costs of a > new operation. This would boost confidence from, say, some local credit > unions or social investors, and they would provide investment or loans > towards further building costs, initial feedstocks and payroll. > > Revolving Loan Funds - We already have a RLF in Ohio that acts as a gap > financing program for ESOPs, Worker Co-ops and the like. You can > receive a loan of up to $15,000 from them, however they have community > partners who will match these loans up to a total of $350,000. It's > called the Commonwealth Revolving Loan Fund, and it is actually > administered by Roy Messing (who I mention above). > > RLFs are a great strategic move because they make the messiness of many > to many investment a more streamlined process. All of the financial > bodies mentioned above can invest in these funds, and with steady > returns this can lower their risk (something very important these days > for collective benefits). There is not a great amount of complexity > involved either - invest and get returns. The institutions and social > investors who are investing in these RLFs could also give guidance to > some of the folks who are seeking investment (which can be very > helpful), and possibly give additional financial support where RLFs are > acting as a gap financing measure. > > Business Incubators - The business incubator model is huge. It's what > gets politicians, unions, investors and whatnot all excited. There are > some pretty good models here - pooling costs for buildings, utility > costs, and shared financial, legal, and other helpful services. These > often receive a lot of government funding, which is often pretty > hands-off. A p2p manufacturing incubator, in a more forward thinking > area, would not be a difficult effort (should i say the Bay Area?). Then > again, it may not even be impossible in the midwest, if the right > factors come together. > > Also, combined with the concept of Business Incubators could be > EcoIndustrial Parks. Imagine the incubators above growing into > prototyping and fab shops. You would have offices where people design, > engineer, unit test, etc. They would send g-code and other designs down > to the shop floor where parts that could be printed would be printed, in > addition to those parts that could be torch cut, machined, pressed, > injection molded, etc. These prototypes could even be a side effort to > the actual production process, which could be happening in the same > shared facility! The EcoIndustrial aspect would be that the industrial > facilities would be combined - possibly through some off-grid > co-generation scheme, providing heat and electricity. The fabbed goods > would be produced using green practices, and possibly have the same > implications (OEM parts for electric vehicles, solar arrays, turbines, > biogas operatons; equipment for agroecological operations - anything > from soil blockers to remote climate sensing equipment.) Green P2P > would attract A LOT of attention, funding and subsidies. There are also > very real supply chains that such operations would easily nudge into, > even out here in the midwest. Especially when there are TONS of empty > industrial parks all throughout the rural midwest (and urban) that have > all the infrastructure in place, state and federal funding ready and > waiting to subdisize any use of them, and entire communities of folks > around them who would be glad to get to work! > > > Conclusion > ----- > > So, really, there are a lot of opportunities for unions to act as an > arbiter and confidence builder in p2p manufacturing. They have many of > the resources that are needed - and unlike venture capitalists - are not > going to consider manufacturing in "knowledge economy" nations to be > abhorrent or competitive with their investments. On the other side of > the coin, Unions are also beginning to show a lot of international > solidarity, so there would be less resistance than one might anticipate > to, say, international p2p supply chains if they were sustainable and > fostered the growth of manufacturing in NA and Europe. > > Most importantly, they offer the advantage of oversight and collective > bargaining in more tough situations. As the p2p manufacturing economy > unfolds, one must pay close attention to the treatment of workers, to > safety and to the fairness of pay and benefits. Definately the worker- > co-op model affords for some measure of workplace democracy, but when > there is no agency outside your own shop you can get stuck. This is why > our worker co-op is joining the IWW - not to mention the excitement of > being a part of an international movement of worker solidarity. > > P.S. - Michel - I can turn this into a p2p blog post here soon if you > like, with some polishing :) > > -- > Richard Schulte > > Flywheel Tech Collective > > > > > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 15:28 +0700, Michel Bauwens wrote: > > Dear Sam, > > > > copying two more union-p2p friends on this dialogue, > > > > Michel > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > Thanks Mark, > > > > This a long-term perspective/investment. Based on an ideas > > first > > articulated to me by Richard Schulte of Flywheel Tech > > Collective, who > > is copied on this email, the idea is to work with Unions to > > start > > building worker-owned cooperatives of various types, > > especially based > > around production and design of open source > > technologies/software. > > Mark, I copied you because I know that you've been in dialogue > > with > > Unions right here in Michigan for years. I wondered if you > > might know > > of some Union folks here in Michigan that might be candidates > > for this > > type of thing? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Mark Dilley > > <markwdilley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sam - thank you for sending this out what seems so many > > days ago - I have been following this pretty keenly and am > > curious about the title of your email "+ Unions and P2P > > alternatives" > > > > > > open ears from anyone here. > > > > > > Best, Mark > > > > > > > > > On 19Feb2011, at 5:19 PM, Samuel Rose wrote: > > > > > >> "What's happening in Wisconsin is not complicated. At the > > beginning of > > >> this year, the state was on course to end 2011 with a > > budget surplus > > >> of $120 million. As Ezra Klein explained, newly elected GOP > > Governor > > >> Scott Walker then " signed two business tax breaks and a > > conservative > > >> health-care policy experiment that lowers overall tax > > revenues (among > > >> other things). The new legislation was not offset, and it > > turned a > > >> surplus into a deficit." > > >> > > >> Walker then used the deficit he'd created as the > > justification for > > >> assaulting his state's public employees. He used a law > > cooked up by a > > >> right-wing advocacy group called the American Legislative > > Exchange > > >> Council (ALEC). ALEC likes to fly beneath the radar, but I > > described > > >> the organization in a 2005 article as "the connective > > tissue that > > >> links state legislators with right-wing think tanks, > > leading anti-tax > > >> activists and corporate money." Similar laws are on the > > table in Ohio > > >> and Indiana. > > >> > > >> Walker's bill would strip public employees of the right to > > bargain > > >> collectively for anything but higher pay (and would cap the > > amount of > > >> wage hikes they might end up gaining in negotiations). His > > intentions > > >> are clear -- before assuming office, Walker threatened to > > decertify > > >> the state's employees' unions (until he discovered that the > > governor > > >> doesn't have that power)." > > >> > > >> > > > http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/479560/12_things_you_need_to_k… > > >> _______ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Aso worth reading: > > >> > > >> > > > http://prop-press.typepad.com/blog/2011/02/report-from-day-five-first-chanc… > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > > >> > > >> I think the time is here to start talking with people about > > >> > > > http://p2pfoundation.net/The_Political_Principles_of_Peer-to-Peer_Advocacy > > >> here, in the Industrial Midwest (which includes WI) > > >> > > >> One simple way to route around party politics is to give > > people a > > >> direct p2p way to actively reflect existing poltics as we > > saw in > > >> iceland with http://skuggathing.is/portal based on > > >> https://github.com/rbjarnason/open-active-democracy > > >> > > >> Another parallel approach is to start applying collective > > decision > > >> making and pooling of resources directly to problems people > > are > > >> addressing. In addition, creating cooperatives, supporting > > alternative > > >> currencies when appropriate. > > >> > > >> Unions in all of these states have resources, including > > pension funds, > > >> that they could invest directly in worker-owned cooperative > > companies, > > >> as has been discussed by Richard Schulte of > > flywheeltechcollective in > > >> the past. Some of them have expressed interest in doing > > this. These > > >> kinds of changes for entities like unions are long term > > changes and > > >> investments, and will take time. However, I think every > > year that goes > > >> by makes more and more on the left receptive to p2p > > alternatives. > > >> > > >> If people are interested in working on P2P political > > advocacy and > > >> approaches in 2011-2012, let's talk here and continue to > > build towards > > >> thing people can really use in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, > > Michigan, > > >> Eastern Europe, South America, etc > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> -- > > >> Sam Rose > > >> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation > > >> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 > > >> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 > > >> skype: samuelrose > > >> email: samuel.rose(a)gmail.com > > >> http://forwardfound.org > > >> http://futureforwardinstitute.org > > >> http://hollymeadcapital.com > > >> http://p2pfoundation.net > > >> http://socialmediaclassroom.com > > >> > > >> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with > > human > > >> ambition." - Carl Sagan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Sam Rose > > Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation > > Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 > > Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 > > skype: samuelrose > > email: samuel.rose(a)gmail.com > > http://forwardfound.org > > http://futureforwardinstitute.org > > http://hollymeadcapital.com > > http://p2pfoundation.net > > http://socialmediaclassroom.com > > > > "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with > > human > > ambition." - Carl Sagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > P2P Foundation - Mailing list > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net > > > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > > > > > > > -- > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > > > > > > > >

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