December 2011 - P2P-Foundation - lists.ourproject.org

any perspectives on chiesa movement in italy?
by Michel Bauwens 30 Dec '11

30 Dec '11

any perspectives on the chiesa mvt from our italian friends? (thanks for cc'ing me specifically, I'm unsubscribing to the list Jan 1 to Apr 31) Michel ** The ALTERNATIVA political movement by Giulietto Chiesa is turning interested in our subjects. Segnalo questo numero molto interessante della rivista indiana "Economical and Political Weekly" dedicato agli "Urban Commons": http://beta.epw.in/footer_item/68/ Piotr -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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ron paul's voting record dissected
by Michel Bauwens 30 Dec '11

30 Dec '11

very comprehensive analysis, here at http://crooksandliars.com/kenneth-quinnell/ron-pauls-racism-isnt-worst-thing (not sure though on the methodology, but every link and claim is documented) Paul is very clearly aligned with the 1 percent. He says some things that sound good, but his voting record<http://www.progressivepunch.org/members.htm?search=selectName&members=TX14&…>on issues related to corporations and the rest of us is bad. For instance, his lifetime voting record on: Aid to Less Advantaged People, at Home & Abroad is 13.40 percent progressive Corporate Subsidies 31.18 percent Education, Humanities, & the Arts 13.19 percent Environment 11.35 percent Fair Taxation 9.01 percent Government Checks on Corporate Power 15.16 percent Health Care 12.62 percent Housing 6.10 percent Labor Rights 13.51 percent Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 15.88 percent Even on the issues he's supposed to be good on, his record is mediocre: Human Rights & Civil Liberties 33.66 percent progressive Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 30.71 percent War & Peace 47.92 percent -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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P2P and Landscape of Change
by Pamela McLean 30 Dec '11

30 Dec '11

(was Re: [P2P-F] 3 days to go ... important announcement on bauwens participation in mailing list and p2p curation) Thanks Michel I'll forward your email to Filipe and also send you his email address. I'm surprised you're getting negative feedback (I confess there is too much on P2P for me to read all of it, so I just dip in when titles catch my eye). I'd have expected strong positive feedback for you as it seems to me that P2P stuff is so much "of this time". *Your work and Landscape of Change* As well as your influence on my thinking, I'm enormously grateful to be able to refer to your clear explanations of various changes and trends as backup to the ideas I'm sharing in a project I'm calling Landscape of Change. I started work on it last year in response to a Panorama programme called "Finished at Fifity" - but although that was the catalyst the Landscape of Change project has much wider vision and relevance than a single target group of people over fifty who are looking for work. Landscape of Change is about reflecting on (and responding to) change as it is impacting on people's lives, making sense of those changes in the wider context, and then applying those insights in a practical way. From our changed perceptions and insights in the workshop group we look at an approach of "stronger together" - and what that means in practice. The ideas I'm sharing make a lot more sense - and carry more weight - if I can refer to background information such as your P2P work (including the recent talks). Your work does a lot to give me more confidence - the way I see things is not just me being crazy. * Background to Landscape of Change* I started Landscape of Change because I was outraged by advice that was given in The Finished at Fifty programme to four people who had been made redundant and were trying to reposition themselves in the world of work. I thought they were being very wrongly advised (unhelpfully and potentially destructively), and so I decided to develop something more "realistic". (NB I do have credentials on the topic of being out of work and what it does to people.) As I see it, for some people (who are losing their jobs now or not able to get a first one), it is as if a tsunami has hit their "usual world of work" situation and they find themselves suddenly washed up on an island somewhere. These people get into "writing CVs mode" - they send off a succession of letters in bottles in the hope of reconnecting with their old "world of work" - not understanding the way that world more or less vanished in the waves that washed them to the island. However some of the other people washed up on the island take a different approach and decide to forget the old "world of work" place, explore the new land, and make what they can of it. How this story ends of course depends on who is on the island, what resources they can lay their hands on, and how well they collaborate. I want to encourage people to explore the new land rather than keep on putting letters in bottles. I get angry with "powers that be" who keep pushing people to try harder to make their way back to the traditional world of work as if no real deep changes are happening. * Landscape and overlaps * Obviously I can't explain all the Landscape of Change details here. I just want you to know enough about it so it can be included in your P2P thinking as appropriate. It may even overlap in some way what you are planning do soon or in the future (I have no idea what that is). At the moment I'm in pre-launch mode. I've developed some materials for workshops, and tried them out with various people - although not with my real target groups yet. The basic workshop is designed to shift people from old ideas about work etc and get them to see some of the key patterns of change - so they are more ready to live with uncertainty. and react in new ways, in what you might describe as a P2P world - and what I describe with words like "collaboration". *Need for follow up *I decided that my preparations couldn't just stop at creating workshops - there needs to be something to follow on - and that could take a lot of time and effort to nurture properly. Having sowed the seeds related to new approaches and collaboration during the workshops - and knowing how important it is that people are not left in isolation looking for jobs that don't exist - I want make it easy for people to join "collaboration groups" after the workshops (or create their own new ones). I've now got ideas for how these groups might develop and what they might do. Even if I can't offer local groups I need to at least offer some kind of online group for people to connect with - I'd like to offer more if I have some resources. *More about collaboration groups* Another reason I want people to be able to take part in collaboration groups is because others will benefit as a result of what the collaboration groups achieve. People who are not spending all their time as wage slaves are a great resource, and there is much to be done in building our shared future. We can't afford to waste people. However I want people to take part in collaboration groups because they want to. The last thing I'd want is for collaboration groups to become some kind of compulsory government scheme for anyone who is claiming any kind of unemployment benefit. I would want to avoid that kind of image and compulsion. (If necessary I'd rather promote a collaboration group model at the opposite extreme - quite elitist - something people might even try to join in during their spare time despite still having a traditional regular job.) These are purposeful collaboration groups. Obviously I don't want to impose any ideas, and it's best for people to come up with their own, but it's a kind of "safely blanket" feeling for me to know that if people did want some ideas - even if just as a starting point for discussion - I'd have something to hand. Also if there are not enough people at the end of a workshop to make a collaboration group happen without support then I need to have at least something to point people to. *First steps* The Dadamac meetup group that I started recently could now serve as a first contact point for anyone who's been to a workshop and wants to connect with some kind of collaboration group. The people in that group are mostly people who helped me with feedback on the workshop materials - so they are familiar with the Landscape of Change basics. Given there is at least that starting point for anyone who wants to connect with a collaboration group after a workshop I could start to run workshops properly in the New Year - and hope to get other people running them too. I'm not sure if I'll look for funding to help launch the Landscape of Change (workshops and collaboration groups). External resources could accelerate its uptake and development. Or maybe I'll just let it emerge. I've got various thoughts and am meeting with some of my collaborators on Friday to explore some options. *Rewards* The "rewards" for people investing time and effort in collaboration groups seem fairly obvious to me - but that's because I'm thinking from a P2P kind of viewpoint. I also look at many kinds of reward that people get, other than money, through being part of collaboration groups - build up of new networks of trust, evidence of collaboration with others, skill continuation and development, social and intellectual benefits, possibility of making things happen locally that you've not had the time or team to make happen previously, etc. This may be done while working on projects purely for social good and for no financial reward, or on projects that are being paid for at a commercial rate, or some kind of hybrid. Despite recognising all kinds of rewards and value benefits beside money it remains true that we all do need to cover our material needs, and that is a challenge given the way things are at present. It's okay to look forward to how things may play out in a P2P world, but for now getting access to all we need for our material needs tends to require "a mix of new and traditional approaches" - which is one reason why I really appreciated the way you explained new approaches to work in London recently - especially the relationship with people/organisations who would be expected to contribute financially. *Sharing* As time goes by I hope to make all the Landscape of Change workshop resources available online for others to use (but ideally some benefit should come back if the resources are used commercially). I'd want to put up explanatory notes as well for people running workshops, not just give the diagrams that we have. I'm not sure how it will work out, but I feel I need to share as much as I possibly can, and yet there are financiaI hurdles to overcome. Just creating the resources and setting up the meetup group has involved financial costs - and of course lots of time invested as well. I guess it is all part of the practical experiment of building the kind of collaborative future we believe in - as usual I'm learning by doing. *Progress reports* I don't know how much time I'll find to share how things are progressing - so if anyone is interested it might be a good idea to join the Dadamac meetup group - http://www.meetup.com/Dadamac/ - even if it is just to lurk there. That is where workshop follow-up collaboration groups news should gather as things start to happen. Pam On 28 December 2011 14:23, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> wrote: > thanks Pam, much appreciated ... I must say one of the additional > motivating factors was the negative feedback I have been receiving lately, > so it is always pleasant to get some kudo's as well. In any case, I have to > focus more for a while on making an income for the family. I'm very > interested in learning about Felipe's experience!! > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Pamela McLean <pamela.mclean(a)dadamac.net>wrote: > >> Dear Michel >> >> Whatever you are doing in 2012 I wish you well with it all. >> >> Now is probably a good time to express appreciation for all I have >> learned thanks to you - both through the p2p foudation and also directly >> from you - so - Thank you Michel. >> >> BTW I note you may be in Brazil later. In the spirit of open-ness I share >> the fact that one of the members of Dadamac meetup >> http://www.meetup.com/Dadamac/ - Felipe - spent a year in South America >> visiting local grass roots initiatives of various kinds and thinking how >> best to share information more widely about things that work well. When I >> met him he was recently back and in London trying to share what he had >> learned. I could put you in contact if his interests seem to overlap your >> own. >> >> Pam >> >> On 28 December 2011 12:11, Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net>wrote: >> >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> an important announcement, in 3 days, I will provisionally retire from >>> the p2p-f mailing list. >>> >>> Material conditions make it impossible for me to continue 'curation as >>> usual', as well as efforts in broader community building and dialogue. From >>> January to April, I will be working intensively on a very demanding >>> privately-funded research project, then I have a late spring lecture tour, >>> and will likely spend 6 weeks in brazil, mid-may to the end of June. >>> >>> Curation will be sharply curtailed but I will continue tagging as a >>> normal activity, undertaken for the research project. Depending on >>> available time, I will continue, on a much lighter regime, Facebook and >>> Scoop.it. Twitter will continue to alert new blog and wiki items, as an >>> automatic feature. >>> >>> The blog will continue and I have devised a system with Franco, see >>> http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Blog_Planning_Resources, but I will at >>> most be able to spend half a day a week on it, so input from the community >>> will be essential. I will aim for one personal editorial a week. >>> >>> Feel free to suggest items for the following permanent rubrics: >>> >>> (bear in mind we may not be able to publish as intensely as the plan >>> below suggests) >>> >>> Published on alternative days >>> >>> 1. P2P Blog Movement of the Day<http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Blog_Movement_of_the_Day>‎ >>> >>> 2. P2P Blog Person of the Day<http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Blog_Person_of_the_Day>‎‎ >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. P2P Blog Essay of the Day<http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Blog_Essay_of_the_Day> >>> 2. 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P2P Blog News of the Day<http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Blog_News_of_the_Day> >>> >>> Important,* I will not read the mailing list for at least 4 months >>> starting January 1, so if you want me to see something, it's important to >>> cc.* >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>> >>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>> >>> >> > > > -- > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > >

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Debt...
by robert searle 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

The following site maybe of interest. http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/About

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Super Cooperators...
by robert searle 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

The following is a reference to work co-authored by Roger Highfied, editor of New Scientist. http://www.rogerhighfield.com/books

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Reference, and Link to P2P Foundation in an Article by Hazel Henderson.
by robert searle 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

I was interested to see a reference to the p2pfoundation in the following article from Hazel Henderson in the last few paragraphs! http://www.ethicalmarkets.com/2011/07/25/looking-back-from-2020/ Competition and secrecy gave way to more cooperation and information-sharing as in the open source movement covered daily by the P2P Foundation. Many companies focused on pure information and thrived. Some companies in Silicon Valley, like MySpace, launched on pure information. But when they tried to use advertising to make money, their membership simply began to walk away because that was a year 2000 model that simply doesn’t fly now. The new scorecards which included cooperation, sharing, spiritual return, ecological return and social return, were taking off and changing business models. Based on the new understanding of Charles Darwin’s great work, illuminated by David Loye’s Darwin’s Lost Theory of Love (2000) and The Darwin Project, cooperation, bonding and sharing were recognized as the human propensities which contributed most to our species’ evolutionary success, along with our competition and creativity (“21s Century Strategies for Sustainability,” Foresight, 2006).

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Fwd: What will they say about the ecocide of 2012?
by Michel Bauwens 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Polly Higgins, Ecocide campaign <noreply(a)eradicatingecocide.com> Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:27 AM Subject: What will they say? To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Web version<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/e/idakkd/mtlnhhp/r/> | Update preferences<http://eradicatingecocide.updatemyprofile.com/r/idakkd/87468E2D/mtlnhhp/y> | Unsubscribe <http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/u/idakkd/mtlnhhp/j/> [image: Facebook icon]<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/fb/idakkd/mtlnhhp/t/> Like <http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/fb/idakkd/mtlnhhp/i/> [image: Twitter icon]<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/tw/idakkd/mtlnhhp/d/> Tweet <http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/tw/idakkd/mtlnhhp/h/> [image: Forward icon]<http://eradicatingecocide.forwardtomyfriend.com/r/mtlnhhp/87468E2D/idakkd/l…> Forward<http://eradicatingecocide.forwardtomyfriend.com/r/mtlnhhp/87468E2D/idakkd/l…> What did they say about Ecocide in 2011? What will they say happened in 2012? [image: Click to watch the video]<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/l/idakkd/mtlnhhp/s/> Dear Michel, I hope you are enjoying a wonderful end to the year. I wanted to share our good news with you -- thanks to many generous people around the world, we have nearly reached our End of Year appeal target of £30,000! We are particularly grateful to Hares Youssef and the 40 Foundation<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/l/idakkd/mtlnhhp/g/> who gave £10,000 towards building the campaign in 2012. In Hares's words, "Making Ecocide a crime is a chance for the current generation to do something really important for our descendants." Many of the people who have contacted us feel the same way. Lucy, who gave £10, said "We all need to add our voice to the creation of this law. Thank you for all your work, we're right behind you." What did we achieve together this year? This short video<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/l/idakkd/mtlnhhp/w/>captures a few of the highlights of 2011. If you can spare even a little to help kickstart next year's campaign<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/l/idakkd/mtlnhhp/yd/>, whatever you can afford makes a difference. I'll be back in touch soon with more on the campaign plans for 2012, including our search for Charles Grant<http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/l/idakkd/mtlnhhp/yh/>featured in today's Guardian newspaper in the UK. With hope and gratitude, Polly Polly Higgins Lawyer and founder of the campaign to make Ecocide a crime You're receiving this because you are a trustee of planet Earth. Edit your subscription<http://eradicatingecocide.updatemyprofile.com/r/idakkd/87468E2D/mtlnhhp/o>| Unsubscribe instantly <http://eradicatingecocide.cmail3.com/t/r/u/idakkd/mtlnhhp/b/> -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Analytical marxism, John Roemer and equality of opportunity
by Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

I just found him. His methodology seems very similar to mine. He also has an interest to equality of opportunity. >From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_Marxism Exploitation At the same time as Cohen was working on *Karl Marx's Theory of History*, American economist John Roemer was employing neoclassical economics in order to try to defend the Marxist concepts of exploitation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploitation> and class <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class>. In his *General Theory of Exploitation and Class* (1982), Roemer employed rational choice<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_choice> and game theory <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory> in order to demonstrate how exploitation and class relations may arise in the development of a market for labour. Roemer would go on to reject the idea that the labour theory of value<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_theory_of_value> was necessary for explaining exploitation and class. Value was in principle capable of being explained in terms of any class of commodity inputs, such as oil, wheat, etc., rather than being exclusively explained by embodied labour power. Roemer was led to the conclusion that exploitation and class were thus generated not in the sphere of production but of market exchange. Significantly, as a purely technical category, exploitation did not always imply a moral wrong (see section Justice<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_Marxism#Justice> below). I am unfamiliar with his beliefs. I for example believe that the ownership of the means of production are those that create trading routes that allow the market exchange to magnify wealth inequality. I am uncertain though as to who is the victim of exploitation. I think that dependent on the ocassion both the consumer and the workers could be exploited. Even If it turns out that I disagree with him, He uses rationale choice theory to explain things like I do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_choice_theory I wonder what happened to this school of thought, most importantly why it hasnt replaced marxism all together. I dont think that this theory is plagued with revisionism, It isnt difficult to avoid determinism while you keep using mathematical models. it has in fact better more concrete foundations than before. -- Sincerely yours, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis

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Fwd: Bank transfer of the reimbursement (unchalika, can you help + PRINT)
by Michel Bauwens 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tiya Boonyakarn <tiya.boon(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:20 AM Subject: Bank transfer of the reimbursement To: Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> Dear Michel Bauwens, The financial department already transfer your reimbursement (in total 2,329 THB) to your bank account at Kasikorn Bank. I must apologize for the complicated and slow process of return your reimbursement. *As the institute's financial process,please follow these steps: * *1. print out the receipt * *2. filled in your passport no. * *3. sign your signature in the blank between signed and payee which above your name.* *4. send the receipt with the photocopy of your passport(write down "certified true copy" and sign your signature) to our office in Bangkok (by mailing) follow the address below:* * * *Ms.Tiya Boonyakarn* *Parliamentary Academic Support Office, * *King Prajadhipok's Institute* *The Government Complex, Building B, 5th floor(Southern Zone)* *120 Moo 3 Chaengwattana Road, Thung Song Hong, * *Laksi District, Bangkok 10210 THAILAND* * * *(Please return the receipt and photocopy of the passport before 31st January 2012.)* *May the good things in life be yours in the coming year and always. Best wishes for a happy new year 2012 from Thailand!* Sincerely yours, Tiya B. -- Contact Information: *Tiya Boonyakarn (Wean)* T: 0-2141-9558 F: 0-2143-8174 M: 08-1343-8854 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: The year's top story is not getting coverage
by Michel Bauwens 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tim Reeves <tim.reeves(a)rewig.info> Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:35 PM Subject: The year's top story is not getting coverage To: Tim Reeves <tim.reeves(a)rewig.info> Dear friends, (most of whom reside in the USA) I thought this article may be helpful, in particular you might like to check out the new media channel mentioned there: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/12/201112258031251868.html Those interested can find more background info and a paradigm for local business independent of legal tender here: http://regional-economic-communities.info/ -- *Mit herzlichen Grüßen,* *Tim Reeves* Flurstraße 10, D-85221 Dachau Tel. 08131 - 273 653 Fax 08131 - 273 654 Email: tim.reeves(a)rewig.info Skype: timothy.reeves (mit Webcam) [image: ReeComm-Logo] regionale-wirtschaftsgemeinschaft.info regional-economic-communities.info rewig-muenchen.de -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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