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Fwd: Doors of Perception: Doors of Perception Report
by Michel Bauwens 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Doors Report <doors-report(a)list.doorsofperception.com> Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:33 PM Subject: Doors of Perception: Doors of Perception Report To: Doors Report <doors-report(a)list.doorsofperception.com> Dear Reader, In case you missed our announcement last November, Doors of Perception Report ceased publication at the end of 2010. But do not despair! In its place, I now blog regularly, and publish monthly essays, at Design Observer - which is here: http://observersroom.designobserver.com/johnthackara/ and for many of the smaller items that used to be in Doors of Perception Report, you can now follow me at Twitter: http://twitter.com/johnthackara My Design Observer blog posts will still be added to the main Doors of Perception site which is here: http://www.doorsofperception.com/ All of the above content will continue to be published free. What I get paid for is giving talks and workshops, and my speaking brochure, updated for 2011, is here: http://www.thackara.com/pressdownloads/thackara_speaker.pdf For these talks and workshops a new online option is now available. This simple but effective format is considerably less expensive for you - and massively less expensive for the planet in terms of travel emissions avoided - so please check it out. With best wishes for 2011 John Thackara -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Fwd: [Commoning] an essential article by Silvia Federici
by Michel Bauwens 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Massimo De Angelis <commoning(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:57 PM Subject: [Commoning] an essential article by Silvia Federici To: Commoning List <commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de> Dear all here is what I think it is an essential article by Silvia Federici on *Feminism and the Politics of the Commons* http://www.commoner.org.uk/?p=113 The article manages to be at the same time strategically propositive and cautious about the role of commons in the context of global capitalist relations and crisis; it prioritises reproduction commons as a strategic point of departure yet without de-valorizing other forms of commons. I propose to debate it as a starting point for a collective reflection around *strategy* for a commons movement. Best wishes Massimo _______________________________________________ Commoning mailing list Commoning(a)lists.wissensallmende.de http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Sustainable Entrepreneurship
by Michel Bauwens 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <paola.dimaio(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:44 AM Subject: Happy New Year, and Sustainable Entrepreneurship To: Lay Cheng Tan <lc.tan(a)unescobkk.org>, Michel Bauwens < michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> Cc: apichaipun(a)hotmail.com, donaldvelasco(a)yahoo.com, lindern(a)gmail.com, lutusizapowrs(a)gmail.com, P.Taylor(a)ids.ac.uk, saraswatierop(a)gmail.com Dear Friends - Happy and sustainable 2011 ! As you may know, one of the fundamental themes of my interest and research is sustainability, that underlies much of my long term work. Thanks to this (and possibly other) common interests, we have met in the past This is just to let you know that tomorrow I ll be giving an online talk (free to attend) One of the themes I ll be touching is 'alternative economic models' There is a chance to interact with the presentation via web chat. Feel free to join to contribute to the discussion or to set up your own class if yo plan to expand on any of the topics under discussions a bit further http://startup.supercoolschool.com/classes/3537 The recording of the presentation and slides will be made available if you cannot attend the live session A Reasonably uptodate personal page if you are wondering what I have been up to: http://personal.strath.ac.uk/paola.dimaio/ If you are interested in collaborating on any projects or papers etc, I ll be free from current commitments at the end of 2011, and plan to return to Asia as soon as possible after that Look forward to be working together then, if not before With warm regards Paola Di Maio -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Bitcoin @ EFF
by magius 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/01/bitcoin-step-toward-censorship-resist…

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the math of collapse
by Michel Bauwens 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

hi Paul, I wonder if you could write up a comment to present this article on the p2p blog: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-mathematical-complex-societies-emerge-c… *The instability of large, complex societies is a predictable phenomenon, according to a new mathematical model that explores the emergence of early human societies via warfare. Capturing hundreds of years of human history, the model reveals the dynamical nature of societies, which can be difficult to uncover in archaeological data.* Note: I'm reading collapse by jared diamond, which I found a very disappointing book, not in terms of historical narrative, which is always interesting, but in terms of the very weak causal analysis .. you end up with the feeling, yeah, some societies collapse, shit happens, and some don't, but no discernible method or propositions to get us out of this mess .. Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Fwd: SAVE THE DATE! 2011 Eastern Conference for Workplace Democracy
by Michel Bauwens 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ECWD <info(a)east.usworker.coop> Date: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:21 AM Subject: SAVE THE DATE! 2011 Eastern Conference for Workplace Democracy To: michelsub2004(a)gmail.com [image: Eastern Conference for Workplace Democracy] ------------------------------ Dear Friends of the Eastern Coordinating Council, We are pleased to announce that the 2011 *Eastern Conference for Workplace Democracy <http://east.usworker.coop>* will be held *July 8 -10, 2011* at the *University of Maryland, Baltimore County*. *Click here to download a printable Save the Date flier*<http://east.usworker.coop/2011/ECWD_savethedate.pdf>(PDF). *Connecting Our Workplaces: Building Cooperative Economies* The 2011 Eastern Conference for Workplace Democracy will bring together representatives of worker cooperatives, ESOP’s, and other cooperatively-run organizations to strengthen the network of democratic workplaces in the Eastern United States. Through networking, seminars, tours, and storytelling, participants will exchange tools and solutions for democratic management and development of cooperative workplaces. We will share strategies for building systems for regional support and advocating for ourselves as we build momentum toward the 2012 International Year of Cooperatives. A new feature this year will be a full-day mini-conference in which participants will compare models for cooperative development. Given the current economic climate, the ECWD will emphasize the importance of an economy that utilizes cooperative and democratic organizational structures to support equitable systems for exchanging goods, services & products and stewardship of the commons for mutual benefi t by all. We believe that democratic workplaces are the fundamental building blocks that power our work towards economic, social, and environmental justice and solidarity. *Stay tuned! A request for proposals, schedule, fees, accommodations, and more will be available soon on our website! For more information or to be added to the ECWD email list, contact ECWD organizers Neily Jennings or Esteban Kelly .* *Please share this exciting news with your colleagues!** * Sincerely, The Eastern Coordinating Council, Staff & Advisors -- If you do not want to receive any more newsletters, this link<http://broadcast.east.usworker.coop/?p=unsubscribe&uid=2f70521828139a9c107d…> To update your preferences and to unsubscribe visit this link<http://broadcast.east.usworker.coop/?p=preferences&uid=2f70521828139a9c107d…> Forward a Message to Someone this link<http://broadcast.east.usworker.coop/?p=forward&uid=2f70521828139a9c107d3535…> powered by phplist <http://www.phplist.com> v 2.10.12, © tincan ltd<http://tincan.co.uk/powered> -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Fwd: New answer to "Twitter: What is the best software to make sense of Twitter overflow?"
by Michel Bauwens 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

starting using hootsuite and indeed please with it, Michel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Quora <noreply(a)quora.com> Date: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:17 AM Subject: New answer to "Twitter: What is the best software to make sense of Twitter overflow?" To: michelsub2004(a)gmail.com [image: Quora]New answer to "Twitter: What is the best software to make sense of Twitter overflow?" *Emma Wells*: Twitter lists are one of the best ways to sort who you're following by topic. This becomes especially useful when you are following more than 50 or so people. I create lists by theme on Twitter (E.g. news, customers, competitors), then use Hootsuite tabs to view each topic in near-real time. Hootsuite is free as long as you don't have multiple Twitter accounts on there: www.hootsuite.com *To see the question page with all answers, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/c2xqQtRW* Thanks, The Quora Team We sent you this email because you are following this question. To stop following it, click this link: http://www.quora.com/l/5bWkd555/_STOP_FOLLOWING To control which emails we send you, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/pVfX5S0x This email was sent by Quora, a continually improving collection of questions and answers created, edited, and organized by everyone who uses it. To disable all email from Quora, visit the following link: http://www.quora.com/l/K3HE3bvA -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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discussion around open finance standard
by Michel Bauwens 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

Dear Sepp, there are 8 responses here in a back and forth, see http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/bibo-a-standard-for-stable-currencies/2009/12… thanks for eventually having a look, and if it is important,to offer a little summary of it to our readers .. Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Fwd: "Anarchism", from The Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1910 Re: call it "anarcho-syndicalism" ?
by Michel Bauwens 24 Jan '11

24 Jan '11

talking with dante about the differences between p2p and the historical tradition of anarchism, see below as well ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:03 PM Subject: "Anarchism", from The Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1910 Re: call it "anarcho-syndicalism" ? To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/kropotkin/defanarchy.html copy pasted : Kropotkin : "Anarchism", from *The Encyclopaedia Britannica*, 1910. ------------------------------ *ANARCHISM* (from the Gr. *an* and *archos*, contrary to authority), the name given to a principle or theory of life and conduct under which society is conceived without government - harmony in such a society being obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority, but by free agreements concluded between the various groups, territorial and professional, freely constituted for the sake of production and consumption, as also for the satisfaction of the infinite variety of needs and aspirations of a civilized being. In a society developed on these lines, the voluntary associations which already now begin to cover all the fields of human activity would take a still greater extension so as to substitute themselves for the state in all its functions. They would represent an interwoven network, composed of an infinite variety of groups and federations of all sizes and degrees, local, regional, national and international temporary or more or less permanent - for all possible purposes: production, consumption and exchange, communications, sanitary arrangements, education, mutual protection, defence of the territory, and so on; and, on the other side, for the satisfaction of an ever-increasing number of scientific, artistic, literary and sociable needs. Moreover, such a society would represent nothing immutable. On the contrary - as is seen in organic life at large - harmony would (it is contended) result from an ever-changing adjustment and readjustment of equilibrium between the multitudes of forces and influences, and this adjustment would be the easier to obtain as none of the forces would enjoy a special protection from the state. If, it is contended, society were organized on these principles, man would not be limited in the free exercise of his powers in productive work by a capitalist monopoly, maintained by the state; nor would he be limited in the exercise of his will by a fear of punishment, or by obedience towards individuals or metaphysical entities, which both lead to depression of initiative and servility of mind. He would be guided in his actions by his own understanding, which necessarily would bear the impression of a free action and reaction between his own self and the ethical conceptions of his surroundings. Man would thus be enabled to obtain the full development of all his faculties, intellectual, artistic and moral, without being hampered by overwork for the monopolists, or by the servility and inertia of mind of the great number. He would thus be able to reach full *individualization*, which is not possible either under the present system of*individualism*, or under any system of state socialism in the so-called *Volkstaat* (popular state). The anarchist writers consider, moreover, that their conception is not a utopia, constructed on the *a priori* method, after a few desiderata have been taken as postulates. It is derived, they maintain, from an *analysis of tendencies* that are at work already, even though state socialism may find a temporary favour with the reformers. The progress of modern technics, which wonderfully simplifies the production of all the necessaries of life; the growing spirit of independence, and the rapid spread of free initiative and free understanding in all branches of activity - including those which formerly were considered as the proper attribution of church and state - are steadily reinforcing the no-government tendency. As to their economical conceptions, the anarchists, in common with all socialists, of whom they constitute the left wing, maintain that the now prevailing system of private ownership in land, and our capitalist production for the sake of profits, represent a monopoly which runs against both the principles of justice and the dictates of utility. They are the main obstacle which prevents the successes of modern technics from being brought into the service of all, so as to produce general well-being. The anarchists consider the wage-system and capitalist production altogether as an obstacle to progress. But they point out also that the state was, and continues to be, the chief instrument for permitting the few to monopolize the land, and the capitalists to appropriate for themselves a quite disproportionate share of the yearly accumulated surplus of production. Consequently, while combating the present monopolization of land, and capitalism altogether, the anarchists combat with the same energy the state, as the main support of that system. Not this or that special form, but the state altogether, whether it be a monarchy or even a republic governed by means of the *referendum*. The state organization, having always been, both in ancient and modern history (Macedonian Empire, Roman Empire, modern European states grown up on the ruins of the autonomous cities), the instrument for establishing monopolies in favour of the ruling minorities, cannot be made to work for the destruction of these monopolies. The anarchists consider, therefore, that to hand over to the state all the main sources of economical life - the land, the mines, the railways, banking, insurance, and so on - as also the management of all the main branches of industry, in addition to all the functions already accumulated in its hands (education, state-supported religions, defence of the territory, etc.), would mean to create a new instrument of tyranny. State capitalism would only increase the powers of bureaucracy and capitalism. True progress lies in the direction of decentralization, both *territorial* and *functional*, in the development of the spirit of local and personal initiative, and of free federation from the simple to the compound, in lieu of the present hierarchy from the centre to the periphery. In common with most socialists, the anarchists recognize that, like all evolution in nature, the slow evolution of society is followed from time to time by periods of accelerated evolution which are called revolutions; and they think that the era of revolutions is not yet closed. Periods of rapid changes will follow the periods of slow evolution, and these periods must be taken advantage of - not for increasing and widening the powers of the state, but for reducing them, through the organization in every township or commune of the local groups of producers and consumers, as also the regional, and eventually the international, federations of these groups. In virtue of the above principles the anarchists refuse to be party to the present state organization and to support it by infusing fresh blood into it. They do not seek to constitute, and invite the working men not to constitute, political parties in the parliaments. Accordingly, since the foundation of the International Working Men's Association in 1864-1866, they have endeavoured to promote their ideas directly amongst the labour organizations and to induce those unions to a direct struggle against capital, without placing their faith in parliamentary legislation. The historical development of anarchism The conception of society just sketched, and the tendency which is its dynamic expression, have always existed in mankind, in opposition to the governing hierarchic conception and tendency - now the one and now the other taking the upper hand at different periods of history. To the former tendency we owe the evolution, by the masses themselves, of those institutions - the clan, the village community, the guild, the free medieval city - by means of which the masses resisted the encroachments of the conquerors and the power-seeking minorities. The same tendency asserted itself with great energy in the great religious movements of medieval times, especially in the early movements of the reform and its forerunners. At the same time it evidently found its expression in the writings of some thinkers, since the times of Lao-tsze, although, owing to its non-scholastic and popular origin, it obviously found less sympathy among the scholars than the opposed tendency. As has been pointed out by Prof. Adler in his *Geschichte des Sozialismus und Kommunismus*, Aristippus (b. c. 430 BC), one of the founders of the Cyrenaic school, already taught that the wise must not give up their liberty to the state, and in reply to a question by Socrates he said that he did not desire to belong either to the governing or the governed class. Such an attitude, however, seems to have been dictated merely by an Epicurean attitude towards the life of the masses. The best exponent of anarchist philosophy in ancient Greece was Zeno (342-267 or 270 BC), from Crete, the founder of the Stoic philosophy, who distinctly opposed his conception of a free community without government to the state-utopia of Plato. He repudiated the omnipotence of the state, its intervention and regimentation, and proclaimed the sovereignty of the moral law of the individual - remarking already that, while the necessary instinct of self-preservation leads man to egotism, nature has supplied a corrective to it by providing man with another instinct - that of sociability. When men are reasonable enough to follow their natural instincts, they will unite across the frontiers and constitute the cosmos. They will have no need of law-courts or police, will have no temples and no public worship, and use no money - free gifts taking the place of the exchanges. Unfortunately, the writings of Zeno have not reached us and are only known through fragmentary quotations. However, the fact that his very wording is similar to the wording now in use, shows how deeply is laid the tendency of human nature of which he was the mouthpiece. In medieval times we find the same views on the state expressed by the illustrious bishop of Alba, Marco Girolamo Vida, in his first dialogue *De dignitate reipublicae* (Ferd. Cavalli, in *Mem. dell'Istituto Veneto*, xiii.; Dr E. Nys, *Researches in the History of Economics*). But it is especially in several early Christian movements, beginning with the ninth century in Armenia, and in the preachings of the early Hussites, particularly Chojecki, and the early Anabaptists, especially Hans Denk (cf. Keller, *Ein Apostel der Wiedertaufer*), that one finds the same ideas forcibly expressed - special stress being laid of course on their moral aspects. Rabelais and Fenelon, in their utopias, have also expressed similar ideas, and they were also current in the eighteenth century amongst the French Encyclopaedists, as may be concluded from separate expressions occasionally met with in the writings of Rousseau, from Diderot's *Preface* to the * Voyage* of Bougainville, and so on. However, in all probability such ideas could not be developed then, owing to the rigorous censorship of the Roman Catholic Church. These ideas found their expression later during the great French Revolution. While the Jacobins did all in their power to centralize everything in the hands of the government, it appears now, from recently published documents, that the masses of the people, in their municipalities and 'sections', accomplished a considerable constructive work. They appropriated for themselves the election of the judges, the organization of supplies and equipment for the army, as also for the large cities, work for the unemployed, the management of charities, and so on. They even tried to establish a direct correspondence between the 36,000 communes of France through the intermediary of a special board, outside the National Assembly (cf. Sigismund Lacroix, *Actes de la commune de Paris*). It was Godwin, in his *Enquiry concerning Political Justice* (2 vols., 1793), who was the first to formulate the political and economical conceptions of anarchism, even though he did not give that name to the ideas developed in his remarkable work. Laws, he wrote, are not a product of the wisdom of our ancestors: they are the product of their passions, their timidity, their jealousies and their ambition. The remedy they offer is worse than the evils they pretend to cure. If and only if all laws and courts were abolished, and the decisions in the arising contests were left to reasonable men chosen for that purpose, real justice would gradually be evolved. As to the state, Godwin frankly claimed its abolition. A society, he wrote, can perfectly well exist without any government: only the communities should be small and perfectly autonomous. Speaking of property, he stated that the rights of every one 'to every substance capable of contributing to the benefit of a human being' must be regulated by justice alone: the substance must go 'to him who most wants it'. His conclusion was communism. Godwin, however, had not the courage to maintain his opinions. He entirely rewrote later on his chapter on property and mitigated his communist views in the second edition of *Political Justice* (8vo, 1796). Proudhon was the first to use, in 1840 (*Qu'est-ce que la propriete?* first memoir), the name of anarchy with application to the no government state of society. The name of 'anarchists' had been freely applied during the French Revolution by the Girondists to those revolutionaries who did not consider that the task of the Revolution was accomplished with the overthrow of Louis XVI, and insisted upon a series of economical measures being taken (the abolition of feudal rights without redemption, the return to the village communities of the communal lands enclosed since 1669, the limitation of landed property to 120 acres, progressive income-tax, the national organization of exchanges on a just value basis, which already received a beginning of practical realization, and so on). Now Proudhon advocated a society without government, and used the word anarchy to describe it. Proudhon repudiated, as is known, all schemes of communism, according to which mankind would be driven into communistic monasteries or barracks, as also all the schemes of state or state-aided socialism which were advocated by Louis Blanc and the collectivists. When he proclaimed in his first memoir on property that 'Property is theft', he meant only property in its present, Roman-law, sense of 'right of use and abuse'; in property-rights, on the other hand, understood in the limited sense of *possession*, he saw the best protection against the encroachments of the state. At the same time he did not want violently to dispossess the present owners of land, dwelling-houses, mines, factories and so on. He preferred to attain the same end by rendering capital incapable of earning interest; and this he proposed to obtain by means of a national bank, based on the mutual confidence of all those who are engaged in production, who would agree to exchange among themselves their produces at cost-value, by means of labour cheques representing the hours of labour required to produce every given commodity. Under such a system, which Proudhon described as 'Mutuellisme', all the exchanges of services would be strictly equivalent. Besides, such a bank would be enabled to lend money without interest, levying only something like I per cent, or even less, for covering the cost of administration. Everyone being thus enabled to borrow the money that would be required to buy a house, nobody would agree to pay any more a yearly rent for the use of it. A general 'social liquidation' would thus be rendered easy, without violent expropriation. The same applied to mines, railways, factories and so on. In a society of this type the state would be useless. The chief relations between citizens would be based on free agreement and regulated by mere account keeping. The contests might be settled by arbitration. A penetrating criticism of the state and all possible forms of government, and a deep insight into all economic problems, were well-known characteristics of Proudhon's work. It is worth noticing that French mutualism had its precursor in England, in William Thompson, who began by mutualism before he became a communist, and in his followers John Gray (*A Lecture on Human Happiness*, 1825; *The Social System*, 1831) and J. F. Bray (*Labour's Wrongs and Labour's Remedy*, 1839). It had also its precursor in America. Josiah Warren, who was born in 1798 (cf. W. Bailie, *Josiah Warren, the First American Anarchist*, Boston, 1900), and belonged to Owen's 'New Harmony', considered that the failure of this enterprise was chiefly due to the suppression of individuality and the lack of initiative and responsibility. These defects, he taught, were inherent to every scheme based upon authority and the community of goods. He advocated, therefore, complete individual liberty. In 1827 he opened in Cincinnati a little country store which was the first 'equity store', and which the people called 'time store', because it was based on labour being exchanged hour for hour in all sorts of produce. 'Cost - the limit of price', and consequently 'no interest', was the motto of his store, and later on of his 'equity village', near New York, which was still in existence in 1865. Mr Keith's 'House of Equity' at Boston, founded in 1855, is also worthy of notice. While the economical, and especially the mutual-banking, ideas of Proudhon found supporters and even a practical application in the United States, his political conception of anarchy found but little echo in France, where the Christian socialism of Lamennais and the Fourierists, and the state socialism of Louis Blanc and the followers of Saint-Simon, were dominating. These ideas found, however, some temporary support among the left-wing Hegelians in Germany, Moses Hess in 1843, and Karl Grün in 1845, who advocated anarchism. Besides, the authoritarian communism of Wilhelm Weitling having given origin to opposition amongst the Swiss working men, Wilhelm Marr gave expression to it in the forties. On the other side, individualist anarchism found, also in Germany, its fullest expression in Max Stirner (Kaspar Schmidt), whose remarkable works ( *Der Einzige und sein Eigenthum* and articles contributed to the *Rheinische Zeitung*) remained quite overlooked until they were brought into prominence by John Henry Mackay. Prof. V. Basch, in a very able introduction to his interesting book, *L'lndividualisme anarchiste: Max Stirner* (1904), has shown how the development of the German philosophy from Kant to Hegel, and 'the absolute' of Schelling and the * Geist* of Hegel, necessarily provoked, when the anti-Hegelian revolt began, the preaching of the same 'absolute' in the camp of the rebels. This was done by Stirner, who advocated, not only a complete revolt against the state and against the servitude which authoritarian communism would impose upon men, but also the full liberation of the individual from all social and moral bonds - the rehabilitation of the 'I', the supremacy of the individual, complete 'amoralism', and the 'association of the egotists'. The final conclusion of that sort of individual anarchism has been indicated by Prof. Basch. It maintains that the aim of all superior civilization is, not to permit *all* members of the community to develop in a normal way, but to permit certain better endowed individuals 'fully to develop', even at the cost of the happiness and the very existence of the mass of mankind. It is thus a return towards the most common individual ism, advocated by all the would-be superior minorities, to which indeed man owes in his history precisely the state and the rest, which these individualists combat. Their individualism goes so far as to end in a negation of their own starting-point - to say nothing of the impossibility for the individual to attain a really full development in the conditions of oppression of the masses by the 'beautiful aristocracies'. His development would remain unilateral. This is why this direction of thought, notwithstanding its undoubtedly correct and useful advocacy of the full development of each individuality, finds a hearing only in limited artistic and literary circles. Anarchism in the International Working Men's Association A general depression in the propaganda of all fractions of socialism followed, as is known, after the defeat of the uprising of the Paris working men in June 1848 and the fall of the Republic. All the socialist press was gagged during the reaction period, which lasted fully twenty years. Nevertheless, even anarchist thought began to make some progress, namely in the writings of Bellegarrique (Caeurderoy), and especially Joseph Déjacque ( *Les Lazareacute'ennes, L 'Humanisphère*, an anarchist-communist utopia, lately discovered and reprinted). The socialist movement revived only after 1864, when some French working men, all 'mutualists', meeting in London during the Universal Exhibition with English followers of Robert Owen, founded the International Working Men's Association. This association developed very rapidly and adopted a policy of direct economical struggle against capitalism, without interfering in the political parliamentary agitation, and this policy was followed until 1871. However, after the Franco-German War, when the International Association was prohibited in France after the uprising of the Commune, the German working men, who had received manhood suffrage for elections to the newly constituted imperial parliament, insisted upon modifying the tactics of the International, and began to build up a Social Democratic political party. This soon led to a division in the Working Men's Association, and the Latin federations, Spanish, Italian, Belgian and Jurassic (France could not be represented), constituted among themselves a Federal union which broke entirely with the Marxist general council of the International. Within these federations developed now what may be described as *modern anarchism*. After the names of 'Federalists' and 'Anti-authoritarians' had been used for some time by these federations the name of 'anarchists', which their adversaries insisted upon applying to them, prevailed, and finally it was revindicated. Bakunin (q.v.) soon became the leading spirit among these Latin federations for the development of the principles of anarchism, which he did in a number of writings, pamphlets and letters. He demanded the complete abolition of the state, which -- he wrote -- is a product of religion, belongs to a lower state of civilization, represents the negation of liberty, and spoils even that which it undertakes to do for the sake of general well-being. The state was an historically necessary evil, but its complete extinction will be, sooner or later, equally necessary. Repudiating all legislation, even when issuing from universal suffrage, Bakunin claimed for each nation, each region and each commune, full autonomy, so long as it is not a menace to its neighbours, and full independence for the individual, adding that one becomes really free only when, and in proportion as, all others are free. Free federations of the communes would constitute free nations. As to his economical conceptions, Bakunin described himself, in common with his Federalist comrades of the International (César De Paepe, James Guillaume, Schwitzguébel), a 'collectivist anarchist' - not in the sense of Vidal and Pecqueur in the 1840s, or of their modern Social Democratic followers, but to express a state of things in which all necessaries for production are owned in common by the labour groups and the free communes, while the ways of retribution of labour, communist or otherwise, would be settled by each group for itself. Social revolution, the near approach of which was foretold at that time by all socialists, would be the means of bringing into life the new conditions. The Jurassic, the Spanish and the Italian federations and sections of the International Working Men's Association, as also the French, the German and the American anarchist groups, were for the next years the chief centres of anarchist thought and propaganda. They refrained from any participation in parliamentary politics, and always kept in close contact with the labour organizations. However, in the second half of the 'eighties and the early 'nineties of the nineteenth century, when the influence of the anarchists began to be felt in strikes, in the 1st of May demonstrations, where they promoted the idea of a general strike for an eight hours' day, and in the anti-militarist propaganda in the army, violent prosecutions were directed against them, especially in the Latin countries (including physical torture in the Barcelona Castle) and the United States (the execution of five Chicago anarchists in 1887). Against these prosecutions the anarchists retaliated by acts of violence which in their turn were followed by more executions from above, and new acts of revenge from below. This created in the general public the impression that violence is the substance of anarchism, a view repudiated by its supporters, who hold that in reality violence is resorted to by all parties in proportion as their open action is obstructed by repression, and exceptional laws render them outlaws. (Cf.*Anarchism and Outrage*, by C. M. Wilson, and *Report of the Spanish Atrocities Committee*, in 'Freedom Pamphlets'; *A Concise History of the Great Trial of the Chicago Anarchists*, by Dyer Lum (New York, 1886); *The Chicago Martyrs: Speeches*, etc.). Anarchism continued to develop, partly in the direction of Proudhonian 'mutuellisme', but chiefly as communist-anarchism, to which a third direction, Christian-anarchism, was added by Leo Tolstoy, and a fourth, which might be ascribed as literary-anarchism, began amongst some prominent modern writers. The ideas of Proudhon, especially as regards mutual banking, corresponding with those of Josiah Warren, found a considerable following in the United States, creating quite a school, of which the main writers are Stephen Pearl Andrews, William Grene, Lysander Spooner (who began to write in 1850, and whose unfinished work, *Natural Law*, was full of promise), and several others, whose names will be found in Dr Nettlau's *Bibliographie de l'anarchie*. A prominent position among the individualist anarchists in America has been occupied by Benjamin R. Tucker, whose journal *Liberty* was started in 1881 and whose conceptions are a combination of those of Proudhon with those of Herbert Spencer. Starting from the statement that anarchists are egotists, strictly speaking, and that every group of individuals, be it a secret league of a few persons, or the Congress of the United States, has the right to oppress all mankind, provided it has the power to do so, that equal liberty for all and absolute equality ought to be the law, and 'mind every one your own business' is the unique moral law of anarchism, Tucker goes on to prove that a general and thorough application of these principles would be beneficial and would offer no danger, because the powers of every individual would be limited by the exercise of the equal rights of all others. He further indicated (following H. Spencer) the difference which exists between the encroachment on somebody's rights and resistance to such an encroachment; between domination and defence: the former being equally condemnable, whether it be encroachment of a criminal upon an individual, or the encroachment of one upon all others, or of all others upon one; while resistance to encroachment is defensible and necessary. For their self-defence, both the citizen and the group have the right to any violence, including capital punishment. Violence is also justified for enforcing the duty of keeping an agreement. Tucker thus follows Spencer, and, like him, opens (in the present writer's opinion) the way for reconstituting under the heading of 'defence' all the functions of the state. His criticism of the present state is very searching, and his defence of the rights of the individual very powerful. As regards his economical views B. R. Tucker follows Proudhon. The individualist anarchism of the American Proudhonians finds, however, but little sympathy amongst the working masses. Those who profess it - they are chiefly 'intellectuals' - soon realize that the *individualization* they so highly praise is not attainable by individual efforts, and either abandon the ranks of the anarchists, and are driven into the liberal individualism of the classical economist or they retire into a sort of Epicurean amoralism, or superman theory, similar to that of Stirner and Nietzsche. The great bulk of the anarchist working men prefer the anarchist-communist ideas which have gradually evolved out of the anarchist collectivism of the International Working Men's Association. To this direction belong - to name only the better known exponents of anarchism Elisée Reclus, Jean Grave, Sebastien Faure, Emile Pouget in France; Errico Malatesta and Covelli in Italy; R. Mella, A. Lorenzo, and the mostly unknown authors of many excellent manifestos in Spain; John Most amongst the Germans; Spies, Parsons and their followers in the United States, and so on; while Domela Nieuwenhuis occupies an intermediate position in Holland. The chief anarchist papers which have been published since 1880 also belong to that direction; while a number of anarchists of this direction have joined the so-called syndicalist movement- the French name for the non-political labour movement, devoted to direct struggle with capitalism, which has lately become so prominent in Europe. As one of the anarchist-communist direction, the present writer for many years endeavoured to develop the following ideas: to show the intimate, logical connection which exists between the modern philosophy of natural sciences and anarchism; to put anarchism on a scientific basis by the study of the tendencies that are apparent now in society and may indicate its further evolution; and to work out the basis of anarchist ethics. As regards the substance of anarchism itself, it was Kropotkin's aim to prove that communism at least partial - has more chances of being established than collectivism, especially in communes taking the lead, and that free, or anarchist-communism is the only form of communism that has any chance of being accepted in civilized societies; communism and anarchy are therefore two terms of evolution which complete each other, the one rendering the other possible and acceptable. He has tried, moreover, to indicate how, during a revolutionary period, a large city - if its inhabitants have accepted the idea could organize itself on the lines of free communism; the city guaranteeing to every inhabitant dwelling, food and clothing to an extent corresponding to the comfort now available to the middle classes only, in exchange for a half-day's, or five-hours' work; and how all those things which would be considered as luxuries might be obtained by everyone if he joins for the other half of the day all sorts of free associations pursuing all possible aims - educational, literary, scientific, artistic, sports and so on. In order to prove the first of these assertions he has analysed the possibilities of agriculture and industrial work, both being combined with brain work. And in order to elucidate the main factors of human evolution, he has analysed the part played in history by the popular constructive agencies of mutual aid and the historical role of the state. Without naming himself an anarchist, Leo Tolstoy, like his predecessors in the popular religious movements of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, Chojecki, Denk and many others, took the anarchist position as regards the state and property rights, deducing his conclusions from the general spirit of the teachings of the Christ and from the necessary dictates of reason. With all the might of his talent he made (especially in *The Kingdom of God in Yourselves*) a powerful criticism of the church, the state and law altogether, and especially of the present property laws. He describes the state as the domination of the wicked ones, supported by brutal force. Robbers, he says, are far less dangerous than a well-organized government. He makes a searching criticism of the prejudices which are current now concerning the benefits conferred upon men by the church, the state and the existing distribution of property, and from the teachings of the Christ he deduces the rule of non-resistance and the absolute condemnation of all wars. His religious arguments are, however, so well combined with arguments borrowed from a dispassionate observation of the present evils, that the anarchist portions of his works appeal to the religious and the non-religious reader alike. It would be impossible to represent here, in a short sketch, the penetration, on the one hand, of anarchist ideas into modern literature, and the influence, on the other hand, which the libertarian ideas of the best contemporary writers have exercised upon the development of anarchism. One ought to consult the ten big volumes of the *Supplément Littéraire* to the paper *La Révolte* and later the *Temps Nouveaux*, which contain reproductions from the works of hundreds of modern authors expressing anarchist ideas, in order to realize how closely anarchism is connected with all the intellectual movement of our own times. J. S. Mill's *Liberty*, Spencer's *Individual versus the State*, Marc Guyau's *Morality without Obligation or Sanction*, and Fouillée's *La Morale, I'art et la religion*, the works of Multatuli (E. Douwes Dekker), Richard Wagner's *Art and Revolution*, the works of Nietzsche, Emerson, W. Lloyd Garrison, Thoreau, Alexander Herzen, Edward Carpenter and so on; and in the domain of fiction, the dramas of Ibsen, the poetry of Walt Whitman, Tolstoy's *War and Peace*, Zola's *Paris*and *Le Travail*, the latest works of Merezhkovsky, and an infinity of works of less known authors, are full of ideas which show how closely anarchism is interwoven with the work that is going on in modern thought in the same direction of enfranchisement of man from the bonds of the state as well as from those of capitalism. ------------------------------ Originally found at the Anarchy Archives<http://www.pitzer.edu/%7Edward/Anarchist_Archives/archivehome.html> . Essays by Kropotkin<http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/kropotkin/index.html> - Anarchist Library <http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/index.html> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ok - so ontology wise, > > various forms and practices defined by some as anarchism > can be contained within peer governance, peer production and peer property > > and forms and practices related to by some as peer governance, peer > production and peer property > can be contained within what some call anarchism. > > do various definitions of anarchism necessarily reject the possibility of > networked forms of hybrid economics and governance ? > > or is anarchism identified as non-integral ? > > if it can be understood as integral, > is peer production, peer governance and peer production = anarchism ? > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> yes, a conscious choice of communication strategy, but also more than >> that, in the sense that a new theory and new situation requires new language >> and concepts. >> >> and no, I would not change again, >> >> Michel >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < >> dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> yes, I understand, >>> as mentioned in my first post of this thread, that this may be one of the >>> reasons why people use other terminologies, as to avoid the misinformation >>> and cumulated emotional significations given to these words. >>> >>> after a few years, when p2p terminology will start to be attacked by >>> coercive forces, >>> will you change terminology again ? >>> >>> Is this a conscious choice of a communication strategy ? >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> if you use socialism or anarchism, which is of course totally >>>> legitimate, you have to be prepared to face a hundred years of >>>> misprepresentations ... >>>> >>>> that's something you avoid by using the new p2p terminology >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < >>>> dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Michel >>>>> >>>>> Thanks - yes, I understand. >>>>> I expected this reply. >>>>> >>>>> I would related it to the "what is contained into what" question. >>>>> Which I would presume may also depend on the starting point - where one >>>>> positions oneself. >>>>> >>>>> In a case scenario where there is a minimum of containment and >>>>> coercion, >>>>> how will individual nodes ( individuals, or existing institutions ) >>>>> choose to network themselves to create synergies - providing access to >>>>> knowledge of opportunities. >>>>> >>>>> We can choose various layers of protocols, contained within each other, >>>>> or with transfers between each other. >>>>> >>>>> So my initial point is one of terminology. What one calls oneself. >>>>> If a semantic map is created, how close to each other are different >>>>> words, >>>>> and why use certain words rather then others ? >>>>> >>>>> How does p2pfoundation relate to various other names of groups ( or >>>>> individuals, or blogs), >>>>> and with what terminologies do these other groups/individuals/blogs >>>>> define themselves ( other then with the p2pfoundation ) >>>>> >>>>> Although some of the targets I perceive may be harnessing understanding >>>>> and documentation related to structural distributed practices and >>>>> transformation, >>>>> >>>>> and although this in effect may target any human being or form of >>>>> intelligence who can grasp it, >>>>> in practice, which groups or individuals defining themselves with >>>>> specific terminologies most participate or link to the p2pfoundation, >>>>> and what can be a representation of a cloud of targets ( of individuals >>>>> or institutions ) of such loose networked coalition ? >>>>> >>>>> I understand that some understanding can come out of statistics >>>>> regarding page views / google analytics, >>>>> although what concerns subcultural groups, >>>>> on the list of p2pf I have the impression I see most active people >>>>> potentially defining themselves as relating themselves to some form of >>>>> anarchism. >>>>> >>>>> So I am happy that more specific terminologies can be used, >>>>> yet the more I discover recent anarchist movement histories, >>>>> the more I realize how taboo it seems to be to use "anarchism" as >>>>> terminology, >>>>> and I ask myself if this is also perceived by others, consciously or >>>>> not. >>>>> >>>>> I feel more and more like using the terminology "anarchism", >>>>> and making it a cool word to use, >>>>> even in corporate environments, even by ceo's. >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Michel Bauwens < >>>>> michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> in this particular context, one could say that the apparent choices >>>>>> are already foreclosed and of a secondary nature, while the institution has >>>>>> made the primary choices >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < >>>>>> dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks Michel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I kind of expected this reply :) >>>>>>> Different levels of abstraction, connections between different >>>>>>> systems, >>>>>>> sometimes enclosures at certain points. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not very different from people involved in anarcho-syndicalism who >>>>>>> still connect to "the system" to get central bank money for access to >>>>>>> certain types of resources, or sell some of their ( surplus ) production >>>>>>> onto the capitalist central bank money "markets" as to purchase other goods >>>>>>> or services from the capitalist system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The person will select the “task”, rather than be given the “task”. >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> The question may then be, >>>>>>> when promoting this, >>>>>>> is it not the individual that chooses, and not the structure ( >>>>>>> although the culture and structures the individual access may limit its >>>>>>> empowered choice ). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Individuals constantly creating the structure in an emergent way, and >>>>>>> not as much the structures coercing the individuals, >>>>>>> even though the individual may also choose coercive contexts ( but >>>>>>> what percentage of the population really prefers more coercive contexts ? ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the moment, I feel I still lack the choices for "contexts" from >>>>>>> which I can build up my choices for interdependencies as to create a quality >>>>>>> of life and a diversity of synergetical reality experiences ( even though >>>>>>> at the same time, there may be overabundance of certain kinds of choices ). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Delving into understanding currency information systems, and offering >>>>>>> alternative dreams to the code of mainstream currency information systems, >>>>>>> is part of the approach to broaden such potentials for emergent >>>>>>> choice, >>>>>>> enabling a convergence of synergies between individuals choosing the >>>>>>> dream a certain dream, creating such dream together. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Michel Bauwens < >>>>>>> michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in any case, the same practices, in the context of a for-profit >>>>>>>> company gives entirely different results .. as the aims and methods are >>>>>>>> predetermined >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson < >>>>>>>> dante.monson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Michel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> articles like this one >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/characteristics-of-social-business-design-for… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> just make me feel that, >>>>>>>>> actually, >>>>>>>>> they are describing practices used in anarcho-syndicalism >>>>>>>>> ( or at least, in my experience ) >>>>>>>>> just adding a few more fancy words, >>>>>>>>> and taking the misinformation I feel is vehiculated/perceived by >>>>>>>>> the mainstream media and population >>>>>>>>> about "anarcho syndicalism" out of it... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I actually would like to call anarcho-syndicalism, >>>>>>>>> anarcho-syndicalism again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>>>>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Think tank: >>>>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>> >>>>>> Think tank: >>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >>>> >>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> Think tank: >>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >> >> >> >> >> > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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P2P Finance
by magius 24 Jan '11

24 Jan '11

After Zopa (p2p lending) here's p2p currencies' exchange. Without banks both. http://www.currencyfair.com/

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