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a peer to peer mutual credit system now in operation in the State of Vermont
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

Hi Thomas, any chance that you could report on this for our p2p blog? see http://www.ijccr.net/IJCCR/2011_%2815%29.html A Report from Vermont (USA): The VBSR Marketplace Amy Kirschner D 68-72 This paper described and evaluates a peer to peer mutual credit system now in operation in the State of Vermont. It is called the VBSR Marketplace and is an innovative partnership between a statewide membership association, Vermont Businesses for Social Responsibility (VBSR) and a currency design and management organization, Vermont Sustainable Exchange (VSE). This project is a significant step forward in the community currency world as it makes participation in a mutual credit system a membership benefit for businesses that belong to an already existing and well-established business association. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Community Currency Magazine is out
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew Slater <matslats(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 5:02 PM Subject: Community Currency Magazine is out Thanks to all those who contributed to the April Edition http://ccmag.net To support even further. send me a pic of yourself holding a printout. (even of just the front page!) And please put your projects on the map <http://ccmag.net/directory>. Later we will merge this map with the one on complementarycurrency.org<http://www.complementarycurrency.org/ccDatabase/maps/worldmap.php> Matthew -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] Here is a "professional response"Fwd: michel debates alternatives to wikipedia
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

thanks Mark, Michel On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Mark Petz <ravenwyn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Vesa works as a Librarian and maybe you met him in Pispala Library? Anyhow > he is also a wikipedia editor in the English wikipedia - he is aware of > other initiatives and here he gives some balance to the chat. > > m > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Vesa Lehtinen <sproutleaf(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:14 PM > Subject: Re: michel debates alternatives to wikipedia > To: Mark Petz <ravenwyn(a)gmail.com> > > > > > 2011/4/2 Mark Petz <ravenwyn(a)gmail.com> > >> >> - Sepp Hasslberger <http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger> >> Are they seriously saying they don't know why? >> >> The environment for contributions from a scientist or anyone serious >> is so bad there (anyone can challenge or even cancel your stuff without >> giving a proper reason, and many do) that a serious c...Mehr anzeigen >> >> > There were scientists who were treated as editors as usual. They were angry > that their POV was not accepted without references and was questioned; WP > folks are very wary of "original research". Some experts don't like to be > treated as common editors. > > And now the Citizendium boasts that it accepts experts - and Larry Sanger > calls Jimmy Blames a pornographer.... > >> >> - >> - <http://www.facebook.com/Ian.Korman> >> Ian Korman <http://www.facebook.com/Ian.Korman> I tried to write a >> single entry in there about a management concept. I tried to get the creator >> of the concept to give me info from the horses mouth so that my entry >> couldn't be challenged. The creator of the concept refused to contribute. At >> the end of the day, WIKIpedia is just too complicated to contribute to for >> me. >> >> Was there references to web article or a book? Info from the "horses > mouth" could be too easily interpreted as Original Research, especially when > it's connected to management jargon or other buzzwords. Too many PR > companies have tried to insert their favorite management fads into > Wikipedia. > > >> >> - Gestern um 09:02 · Gefällt mir >> - <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >> Michel Bauwens <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> the fundamental >> problem is that the editors in power are less knowledgeable than the >> contributors; and that the contributors are powerless against the ruling >> prejudices of the editorial layer. >> >> Who are these editors? Everybody active in Wikipedia is an editor. The > "upper level" are system administrators and WP Foundation personnel. > > >> >> - <http://www.facebook.com/markus.petz> >> Markus Petz <http://www.facebook.com/markus.petz> more useful perhaps >> is just putting links to related articles as often what is not included is >> due to a narrow cultural perspective. Although I do wonder why episodes of >> US TV programs have such long entries compared to real world articles - >> surely they are not really more significant - it has to be a marketing >> aspect. >> >> Because too many editors (or contributors, if you will) know more about > popular culture than the real world. And those who would write about the > real world don't get involved because of Wikipedia's reputation of being a > popular culture encyclopedia. A vicious circle. > > >> >> - >> >> - <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001304793048> >> Poor Richard <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001304793048> >> I think it is time for a National Public Wikipedia that would >> aggregate many wiki domains including the legacy Wikipedia and forks like >> Citizendium. This public metawiki would not intervene in legacy subwiki >> editorial and political issues b...Mehr anzeigen >> >> I think Larry Sanger would sue somebody calling Citizendium a "fork" of > Wikipedia. By the way, Wikipedia does accept Citizendium articles as sources > but not the vice versa. > > > > -- > === > > "It is not our purpose to become each other; it is the recognize each > other, to learn to see the other and honour them for what they are; each the > other's opposite and complement." > > (paraphrasing Herman Hesse) > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Fwd: Observers Room: John Thackara: April 2011 Newsletter
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

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Open Source Government
by Kevin Carson 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

http://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/ "The implosion of capital outlays associated with the desktop revolution, and the virtual disappearance of transaction costs of coordinating action associated with the network revolution, have (as Tom Coates said) eliminated the gap between what can be produced in large hierarchical organizations and what can be produced at home in a wide range of industries: software, publishing, music, education, and journalism among them. "And we can include many of the functions of government in that list. The central theme of this book is the potential for networked organization to constrain the exercise of power by large, hierarchical institutions in a way that once required the countervailing power of other large, hierarchical institutions." -- Kevin Carson Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org Mutualist Blog: Free Market Anti-Capitalism http://mutualist.blogspot.com The Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html

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critical review of new bk on coops
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

http://bethnalbling.blogspot.com/2011/03/prejudice-masquerading-as-economic… Dear Kevin, I'm hoping you can present this book and review to our audience, with your own comments? Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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democracy schools and community bills of rights movement
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

http://stirtoaction.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/a-community-bill-of-rights/ Dear friends, I'm looking for a U.S. volunteer to present the topic of the above article to our audience, it seems quite important as a new approach to delegitimize corporate personhood, it seems to be in the trend towards commons law, which david bollier is working on? Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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peer to peer pedagogies
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

Dear Tere, Denis and friends, re: Suoranta, Juha & Vadén, Tere (2008). Wikiworld. Political Economy of Digital Literacy and the Promise of Participatory Media. http://wikiworld.wordpress.com Our http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Education suffers from a real lack of historical perspective, particularly regarding peer to peer pedagogies, as I was remined by recently discovering Juha's review of Ranciere's Ignorant Schoolmaster ... I wonder if there is anyway I could have assistance in remedying this, including by serializing some historical parts of Wikiworld? Michel -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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Re: [P2P-F] Poor Richard commented on your link.
by Michel Bauwens 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

Dear Richard, from your remark below, I read that you want to work mostly 'within' existing society and nudge it forwards, the article referred to, with whom I agree, calls for a much deeper phase transition, that overturn the basic metaphysics that we've embarked on since the 16th cy, while any phase change has to work 'with' existing reality, I think that indeed, that period of european and world history has run its course, and so I must agree with the call for deeper work called for by Ugo Mattei, Michel On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Facebook <update+pjiidwm(a)facebookmail.com>wrote: > facebook<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F163026717088964&mid=400b7b9G1…> > Hi Michel, > Poor Richard commented on your link. > Poor wrote: "I take issue with some of the rhetoric here and will try to > compose a response as time permits. But I can extract some fundamental > points of agreement, too. I agree that public-private is a false zero sum > dichotomy. I would add that the economy and counter-economies (including > commons) are likewise co-dependent antagonists. I think less that a > commons-based paradigm must assert hegemony over some prior paradigm than > that a new balance of power must be struck between the various > constituencies in the mainstream culture, counter-cultures, mainstream > economy, and counter-economies. Hegemony is a flawed objective that > perpetuates pendulum swings just like the famous reciprocating vendettas. > What we need is a steady state homeostasis. That is something which must be > eased into gently and gradually. That said, there is no time or effort to > waste. The old growth-based economy is heading for a perfect storm of > climate change, peak oil, peak water, and peak food. It is like a cattle > stampede in an old western movie. The stampede must be turned before the > entire herd of humanity hurdles over a cliff. And yet somehow we must do > this with considerable restraint and finesse. This requires less > intellectual theory than pragmatic architecture and engineering. This > requires that we work both within the system (law, politics, economics, > culture, etc.) and outside of it, preferably in a coordinated manner. As one > example, take the fascist think tank ALEC that for many years has been > creating templates for bills that can be introduced by industry-funded > republicans in state legislatures. Several thousand such bills have been > introduced with apparently about an 18% success rate. Progressives and > commoners need a similar mass incubation process for state, county, and > municipal statutes, ordinances, and regualtions and for commons-based > enterprises. The templates can be skeletal and a la cafeteria to allow for > local diversity without necessarily reinventing the wheels in every state > and community." > > See the comment thread<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F163026717088964&mid=400b7b9G1…> > Reply to this email to comment on this link. > Thanks, > The Facebook Team > See Comment<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F163026717088964&mid=400b7b9G1…>The > message was sent to michelsub2004(a)gmail.com. If you don't want to receive > these emails from Facebook in the future or have your email address used for > friend suggestions, you can unsubscribe<http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=c05bf5&u=528245547&mid=400b7b9G1f7c632bGe30…>. > > Facebook, Inc. P.O. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303 > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

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First 'moneyless picnic' in Barcelona this Sunday
by elf Pavlik 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

Hello =) I've stayed in Barcelona for some days now and I have just started calling up people from various networks and projects to start meeting in picnic like environment with Open Space like meeting. If any of people from this list stay in Barcelona please feel heartfully invited to join in! more info at: http://picnics.moneyless-world.info/barcelona/ I would like to call up people from various networks and projects for such picnics in any city that I stay, at this moment I have Berlin and Amsterdam in my plans for next weeks... Please let me know if you feel interested in proposing such picnics and helping a bit with their self-organization in your hometown! In next weeks I would like to add to http://moneyless-world.info zoom for the map and participation statistics across networks for all towns/cities (plus links to local groups if available!). Any clue about data on locations of P2P foundation participants? P2P local groups by any chance? Mailing lists, forums etc. have their purpose but IMHO it all sucks comparing to meeting up in person, especially if we can do it in a park with sunny weather and sharing nice food which we bring with us =) At this moment we roll it quite spontaneous and last minute but I hope some people will still show up... =) elf Pavlik (living strictly moneyless for almost 2 years now) http://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper http://moneyless-world.info

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