January 2011 - P2P-Foundation - lists.ourproject.org

Re: [P2P-F] Mapping in a Partcipatory Culture
by Michel Bauwens 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

will check! On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Chris Pinchen <chris(a)cataspanglish.com>wrote: > Interesting for the blog? > https://sites.google.com/site/mappinginapartcipatoryculture/ > > > > *Chris Pinchen* > http://cataspanglish.com > http://twitter.com/cataspanglish > > > > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Does the use of the internet automatically force us to accept certain values?
by Michel Bauwens 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/does-the-use-of-the-internet-automatically-fo… -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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net politics reviewed by pat kane
by Michel Bauwens 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

see: http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/reading-evgeny-morozovs-net-delusion-after-th… -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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destroying the urban commons of the poor
by Michel Bauwens 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

article by Richard Pithouse, http://www.sacsis.org.za/site/article/606.1 Destroying the urban commons of the poor in Motala Heights near Durban, South Africa <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=13260> [image: photo of Michel Bauwens] Michel Bauwens 24th January 2011 The bulldozing of inconvenient realities is not just a strand in the story of our past. Almost a hundred years after the Land Act millions of roving pariahs remain in the shack settlements on the edges of our towns and cities. They are often shunted around at the point of guns wielded by the state and private power. There are plenty of sixteen year olds who have never lived a day under apartheid but who have seen their homes, communities and, in Motala Heights, their temple, treated as nothing but an aberration to be bulldozed from the landscape. Excerpted from a report by <http://www.sacsis.org.za/site/article/606.1>South-African urban commons activist *Richard Pithouse*: *“Here in South Africa the Constitution may declare that we are all, or least all of us with the appropriate papers, equally the public and equally entitled to find and share beauty as we see fit. But much of our shared life is dominated by business interests that appeal to markets rather than publics and not everyone is in the market for everything. This is not always a case of market logic rendering, as it often does, some people superfluous and therefore invisible. When the poor are out of the places to which they are supposed to keep, when a shack stands next to a suburban home or a poor child sits next to a richer child in a school, the mere presence of people without money can render them hyper-visible. People, with all their individual depth and complexity, are sometimes turned into objects onto which all kinds of contempt, fear and hate are projected.* *One of the many places in our society where the fracturing in who counts as a full member of our national public and who does not is immediately visible is Motala Heights near Durban. Motala Heights is nestled into a valley between the factories on the outskirts of Pinetown and a steep hill that leads up to the expensive suburb of Kloof. Some of the people in the valley are poor and live in tin houses that they have built on rented land and some are middle class or wealthy and live in large suburban homes. There is also a shack settlement at the foot of the hill that leads up to Kloof. * *In 2006 the eThekwini Municipality tried to send in their men with guns to eradicate the shack settlement. When Bheki Ngcobo told them that their actions were illegal in terms of the Constitution he was tear-gassed and beaten to the ground. But, in the end, the squatters stopped the City’s illegal eviction. The law is not everything but it is also not nothing. At the time the squatters were convinced that the eviction had been directed by a local landlord and businessman, Ricky Govender, and claimed that the municipal demolition team had been drinking in his pub before they set off up the hill to eradicate a community. There is no doubt that some municipal officials and police officers speak as if Govender, who boasts of connections to Jacob Zuma, has some sort of extra-legal authority over the whole community. Govender’s plans to force out the poor in order to develop Motala Heights for private profit clearly carry a lot more weight than the demand of its poor residents that the state support them in building a community for all the residents of the area.* *Govender has been trying, for some years now, to evict some of the people in the tin houses. They are often old and poor. Some have lived in their homes for as long as forty-five years. Like the municipality, he has failed because his attempted evictions have been illegal. This is public knowledge. Allegations that he has dumped dangerous industrial waste right outside activists’ homes, threatened to have activist Shamita Naidoo killed for R50 and to bulldoze people’s homes have been reported in the local press. “* -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Re: [P2P-F] P2P-Foundation Digest, Vol 1, Issue 65
by Neal Gorenflo 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

Just wanted to add a perspective to the discussion here about social networks being new platforms for social activism: >From Participation to Power: The Potential Pitfalls of Web 2.0 http://www.shareable.net/blog/from-participation-to-power-the-potential-pit… The perspective of Harald Katzmair, Ph.d of FAS.research can summed up simply: participation is not power. Unless structure appropriately, online conversations will not move from shared connections, to shared understanding, to shared action. Unless structured appropriately, it will disempower participants. -- Neal Gorenflo | Publisher, http://Shareable.net | 415.867.0429 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:19 PM, < p2p-foundation-request(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: > Send P2P-Foundation mailing list submissions to > p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > p2p-foundation-request(a)lists.ourproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > p2p-foundation-owner(a)lists.ourproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of P2P-Foundation digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fwd: New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms > for social activism?" (Michel Bauwens) > 2. Fwd: Michael Hamlin commented on your answer "There is indeed > a left-libertarian tradition which aims to combine individual > freedom with a conc..." (Michel Bauwens) > 3. Fwd: <Coalition> German and EU Green New Deal Proposal > (Michel Bauwens) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:47:47 +0700 > From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: New answer to "Are social networks the new > platforms for social activism?" > To: P2P Foundation mailing list <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimGkfeuBV7TDirOfxPMjayoyNYukJtBC4bbZ3iq(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I just invited you, > > anybody else who needs an invitation let me know, > > if't s a great place to learn from knowledgeable people, and also to > re-share the material we have assembled at the p2p foundation, > > Michel > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola(a)gn.apc.org > >wrote: > > > I tried to create an account, but it told me it is by invitation only... > > > > Roberto > > > > Michel Bauwens wrote: > > > thanks Olivier, are you on quora? > > > > > > I didn't know about it but am hooked from 'go' .. > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, olivier auber > > > <olivierauber2(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos". > > > > > > Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the > > > territory. And almost everybody does it! > > > > > > We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like > > > "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software". > > > But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD, > > > just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other > > > rules may exist.... > > > > > > Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about > > > this confusion and its consequences. > > > > > > http://is.gd/URiWqO > > > > > > Olivier > > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > well said Sam! > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: *Quora* <noreply(a)quora.com <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:48 PM > > > Subject: New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms > > > for social activism?" > > > To: michelsub2004(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Quora > > > > > > > > > New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for > > > social activism?" > > > > > > > > > *Sam Rose*: > > > I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for > > > social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for > > > social activism, though. > > > > > > Many people do not realize that activity among participant > > > activists online usually happens across a diverse range of > > > "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks, > > > but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites, > > > social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like > > > google groups, yahoogroups and mailman email lists, open > > > source software like statusnet, and emerging services like > > > quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture. > > > > > > * > > > To see the question page with all answers, visit: > > > http://www.quora.com/l/Rd5CXzYp* > > > > > > Thanks, > > > The Quora Team > > > > > > We sent you this email because you are following this > > > question. 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Fwd: admittingfailure.com : start an honest conversation about mistakes
by Michel Bauwens 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:58 AM Subject: admittingfailure.com : start an honest conversation about mistakes To: sustainable_solidarity(a)yahoogroups.com, hc_ecology(a)yahoogroups.com, econowmix(a)googlegroups.com Cc: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> http://admittingfailure.com publicly launched a new website “admittingfailure.com” and made a bold challenge to development charities across Canada and around the world: stop fearing failure, start innovating, start an honest conversation about mistakes. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Fwd: <Coalition> German and EU Green New Deal Proposal
by Michel Bauwens 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:31 AM Subject: Re: <Coalition> German and EU Green New Deal Proposal To: coalition(a)googlegroups.com ... as the next "Green" capitalist bubble ? Thank you for sharing that Pdf http://www.boell.org/downloads/Green-New-Deal.pdf I somehow tried to participate in the "Green New Deal" debate, including sharing understanding of the need for exponential monetary mass growth in a capitalist, central bank debt with interest based currency. I see no mention in that pdf of tackling the problem of monetary architectures, and "interest" on credit. My own feeling , if it was understood, is that such view "disturbed" some greens who could influence the agenda. I was asking how such green new deal would be used... and if it would be used to get out of the current capitalist approach. >From my point of view, maintaining the current system is not green, even if one puts a layer of green paint on it, creating new markets as to increase the monetary mass, and maintain the current non-green system. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:21 AM, George Mokray <gmoke(a)world.std.com> wrote: > 40 page paper from Germany - pdf alert > > http://www.sven-giegold.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Green-New-Deal_en.pdf > > -- > ------------------ > Coalition of the Willing ------------------ > The Coalition occupies several spaces for communication and action. Keep > the discussion on this list civil & assume good faith. Strive for brevity. > For the what-why-where of Coalition work, look to http://cotw.cc. That > wiki functions as a routing-portal and a locus for some of the work. All > group efforts should maintain an updated statement of current focus, > channels and spaces of work and anything necessary to support orientation & > keeping up-to-speed. > > "BetterMeans" is where we coordinate our work: making proposals, endorsing > & signing up for work, and tracking tasks. > https://secure.bettermeans.com/projects/163 > ----------------- > You are subscribed to coalition(a)googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe send email to coalition+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com<coalition%2Bunsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com> > For more options http://groups.google.com/group/coalition?hl=en > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Fwd: Michael Hamlin commented on your answer "There is indeed a left-libertarian tradition which aims to combine individual freedom with a conc..."
by Michel Bauwens 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

Kevin is mentioned here: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Quora <noreply(a)quora.com> Date: Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM Subject: Michael Hamlin commented on your answer "There is indeed a left-libertarian tradition which aims to combine individual freedom with a conc..." To: michelsub2004(a)gmail.com [image: Quora]Michael Hamlin commented on your answer "There is indeed a left-libertarian tradition which aims to combine individual freedom with a conc..." Michael Hamlin commented on your answer "There is indeed a left-libertarian tradition which aims to combine individual freedom with a conc...": ""Organization Theory" has been sitting on my desk for many months, but it keeps being preempted in my reading queue. Carson's efforts to synthesize various schools sometimes feels a bit forced, but I enjoy them. Sometimes I feel that the C4SS and Carson's "neo-mutalist" system is a good, well, counterbalance to the Rothbardian advance (not that I am anti-Rothbardian). I'm sympathetic and happy for the growth of all these libertarian-style systems." * To see the answer and all comments, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/mQjfIvOX* Thanks, The Quora Team To control which emails we send you, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/pFRqrf8Y This email was sent by Quora, a continually improving collection of questions and answers created, edited, and organized by everyone who uses it. To disable all email from Quora, visit the following link: http://www.quora.com/l/K3HE3bvA -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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blog growth 2009-2010
by Michel Bauwens 18 Jan '11

18 Jan '11

growth has slowed down, contrary to my expectations, see - 117,442 Visits <https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/visits?id=307901&seg0=-1&pdr=201…> Previous: 99,663 (+17.84%) - 79,210 Absolute Unique Visitors <https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/unique_visitors?id=307901&seg0=-…> Previous: 66,790 (+18.60%) - 161,901 Pageviews <https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/pageviews?id=307901&seg0=-1&pdr=…> Previous: 137,867 (+17.43%) -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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Fwd: New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?"
by Michel Bauwens 18 Jan '11

18 Jan '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Quora <noreply(a)quora.com> Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:05 PM Subject: New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?" To: michelsub2004(a)gmail.com [image: Quora]New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for social activism?" *Seb Paquet*: Social networks in their current incarnations do offer a rudimentary platform for awareness-raising (through word-of-mouse information sharing), petition-style activism, and passive group-forming (join the group, become a fan, forget about it). As such, they serve an important function. Deep change rarely happens unless people (1) are pissed off, (2) know that lots of others are pissed off too, and (3) are aware that everyone knows that people are pissed off, which makes action socially acceptable (credit for this observation goes to Henry Copeland <http://www.quora.com/Henry-Copeland>) Awareness is necessary but insufficient for change, however, and *action platforms *are needed to conduct effective activism online. In this century, effective activism is no longer about taking institutional power to effect change; it's about *getting new things started* and *building alternatives*. Project-based, creative and viral activism is where it's at. Current-day social networks are not really designed to support this kind of activism, but there is already some promising work in that direction. See e.g. Open Projects: What websites help you start, plan, and run open projects?<http://www.quora.com/Open-Projects/What-websites-help-you-start-plan-and-ru…> *To see the question page with all answers, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/ec3nX4WO* Thanks, The Quora Team We sent you this email because you are following this question. To stop following it, click this link: http://www.quora.com/l/b0Zb5hkF/_STOP_FOLLOWING To control which emails we send you, visit: http://www.quora.com/l/HWkr4qoU This email was sent by Quora, a continually improving collection of questions and answers created, edited, and organized by everyone who uses it. To disable all email from Quora, visit the following link: http://www.quora.com/l/K3HE3bvA -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

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