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Re: [implementations-list] I want to contribute!
by Marius Andersen 21 Jun '09

21 Jun '09

> Fra: Alessandro Piras <laynor(a)gmail.com> > Emne: Re: [implementations-list] I want to contribute! > Til: "Vi/Vim implementations list" <implementations-list(a)lists.ourproject.org> > Dato: Onsdag 17. juni 2009 15.15 > > I didn't remember how much the visual selection sucked, in particular: > GVj => the last raw of text is not selected. For block (rectangular) selection, there's a nice mode included with Cua-mode (http://www.emacswiki.org/CuaMode) It's probably overlooked by many because Cua-mode's primary function is to overwrite the standard Emacs keys and use `C-v', `C-c', and `C-x' to paste, copy, and cut, but this can be avoided by loading the mode as such: (cua-mode t) (setq cua-enable-cua-keys nil) Then, to enter block selection mode, hit `C-RET'. What do you think? Is it better? _________________________________________________________ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com

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[implementations-list] Alessandro, I've started to forward unapplied queued patches to http://my-trac.assembla.com/vimpulse
by Jason Spiro 20 Jun '09

20 Jun '09

Hi Alessandro, I had some old unapplied vimpulse patches in my inbox. Some are still relevant. I have started to upload those to http://my-trac.assembla.com/vimpulse/report/1 -- now I invited you to Assembla.com so that you can create an Assembla account which will have read/write access to Trac. Once I create the account, please email me privately to remind me to make your Assembla account a project admin. Cheers, Jason -- Jason Spiro: software/web developer, packager, trainer, IT consultant. I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs. +1 (416) 992-3445 / www.jspiro.com

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[implementations-list] Alessandro Piras is the new Vimpulse maintainer
by Jason Spiro 19 Jun '09

19 Jun '09

Alessandro Piras, one of the original Vimpulse authors, contacted me on Gtalk and volunteered to be the new Vimpulse maintainer. Alessandro, thank you for volunteering. I hereby appoint you as the new maintainer. I think all patches should still go to this list, though Alessandro gets the final decision on whether that should be so or not. May I retain my commit rights -- in other words, may I still upload more changes directly without asking you for permission to upload them? Thanks, -- Jason Spiro: software/web developer, packager, trainer, IT consultant. I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs. +1 (416) 992-3445 / www.jspiro.com

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[implementations-list] Vimpulse update
by Alessandro Piras 19 Jun '09

19 Jun '09

Little update to VImpulse. I'm happy to announce we have a visual mode that (almost) doesn't suck. 1. works like vim in normal visual mode: the character under the cursor when you hit "v" is always selected, and so is the character under the cursor when you move. 2. works like vim in linewise mode: the line you're on is selected, the cursor movement is not restricted to the beginning of the line. As a consequence "0v$" now selects the whole line, not just the characters up to the second last in the line, and "ggVG" selects everything, not the text up to the second last line. In other words, it doesn't suck. I'm going to upload the stuff on emacs wiki when I discover how to. There are 2 things that still bother me (i guess more than 2, but only those come to mind now): A) the parens matching highlight sucks big time. example: if (giancane(cancane(giangiovanni(x), gioacchino(y)), gianny(x))) I'd like to hit $ and see if the parens match (in normal mode). But stupid emacs higlights instead the second last paren. going forward one chare _is not_ an option, as I would have to hit some stupid arrow key because viper constrains the movement (and vim too). So this is the next thing I'm going to look at. B) Before talking about the annoyance, I must say thanks to the visual block mode developers, from what I read in the comments, cppjavaperl and Frank Fisher maybe. It works great, and it's very usable as is. But it suffers of the same suckage of the old visual mode:the cursor must be placed 1 column forward of what you would expect. This leads to the same kind of suckage of the paren matching: if you want to block select from column n to column m, and m happens to be the last column in some line, you're forced to touch the arrow keys. As I know nothing about how the block mode is implemented, this will take some more time. I'll ask for information if needed. Cheers, Alessandro

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Re: [implementations-list] I want to contribute!
by Marius Andersen 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

> Fra: Stephen Bach <sjbach(a)sjbach.com> > Emne: Re: [implementations-list] I want to contribute! > Til: "Marius Andersen" <rezonatix3(a)yahoo.no> > Kopi: implementations-list(a)lists.ourproject.org > > > Currently, I've added an entry to the cond form beginning at line > > 1300 in viper-cmd.el (where `viper-prefix-arg-com' is defined), to > > associate some simple behavior to `di' (whose cons cell would be > > '(?i . ?d)). > > Hi Marius, good work! How about putting the patch (plus writeup) on > the Vimpulse discussion page? It should be hosted somewhere. I've posted it at http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/vimpulse . It's rather ugly, to be honest, but at least it's a start. :) _________________________________________________________ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com

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[implementations-list] I want to contribute!
by Marius Andersen 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Where to start? Someone at EmacsWiki mentioned Vim's "text objects", such as `diw' (delete inner word), `vip' (select inner paragraph) and `ciB' (change inner block). E.g., one can place the cursor inside a pair of parentheses, if(VAR == FALSE) { ... and type `cib' to delete their contents: if() { ... As a rough attempt to get similar behavior in Emacs, I recorded a keyboard macro and bound it to `di(': (define-key viper-vi-global-user-map "di(" "%v%ldi") Unfortunately, this overwrites all other `d' bindings! C-h k reveals that the first letter, `d', is bound to `viper-command-argument' in `viper-vi-basic-map'. That is a generic function, bound to `c' and `y' as well, which calls the 100-lines function `viper-prefix-arg-com' to read the next keystrokes manually (with C routine `read-char') and take appropriate action. So to define new `d' commands, it seems we are stuck with modifying (perhaps even redefining :) this very long function. Indeed, to quote from viper.el (line 284): Some of the code that is inherited from VIP-3.5 is rather convoluted. Instead of viper-command-argument, keymaps should bind the actual commands. E.g., "dw" should be bound to a generic command viper-delete that will delete things based on the value of last-command-char. This would greatly simplify the logic and the code. Currently, I've added an entry to the cond form beginning at line 1300 in viper-cmd.el (where `viper-prefix-arg-com' is defined), to associate some simple behavior to `di' (whose cons cell would be '(?i . ?d)). There should be a better way, or perhaps a a larger rewrite is necessary to do things more elegantly. Any thoughts? By the way, there's a small discussion page for vimpulse at http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/vimpulse. It lists a few bugs/requests which should be addressed. (viper.el also contains a buglist.) _________________________________________________________ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com

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[implementations-list] Re: What to do so Vimpulse (Vim emulation plugin) can get into Emacs?
by Chong Yidong 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

"Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4(a)gmail.com> writes: > I am the currently-inactive maintainer of Vimpulse[1], which builds on > top of viper-mode to emulate Vim features too, not just vi features. > > What needs to be done so Vimpulse can get included as part of Emacs? Michael, have you tried Vimpulse? What is your opinion of this package?

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[implementations-list] Re: What to do so Vimpulse (Vim emulation plugin) can get into Emacs?
by Richard M Stallman 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

If the current Emacs maintainers decide they want to incorporate Vimpulse, we could do the copyright assignments without waiting. It might be good to ask some Vim users whether they are happy with Vimpulse as a replacement for Vim.

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[implementations-list] Re: What to do so Vimpulse (Vim emulation plugin) can get into Emacs?
by Stefan Monnier 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

> I know two things: > 1. fix Vimpulse's most serious bugs: it is currently buggy > 2. do copyright assignment: it hasn't been done yet, and Donald > Robertson, GNU copyright clerk, said it must wait until you accept > vimpulse into Emacs. (The two main authors have agreed that they will > assign copyright when needed.) I don't know what Donald was talking about, but step 2 can be done at any time: 2a. send a "request-assign.changes" for past and future changes to Emacs. 2b. once this is done (and before inclusion), send an email to assign(a)gnu.org indicating that you consider vimpulse.el as being covered by the previous assignment. Of course there are other steps: 3. Get it accepted. 4. Get it included. Step 3 may require some more changes to better integrate it with Emacs/Viper/Younameit. Step 4 may require waiting for a good window (typically the best time is right after a release). Stefan

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[implementations-list] Fwd: What to do so Vimpulse (Vim emulation plugin) can get into Emacs?
by Jason Spiro 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:47 AM Subject: What to do so Vimpulse (Vim emulation plugin) can get into Emacs? To: emacs-devel(a)gnu.org Hi all, I am the currently-inactive maintainer of Vimpulse[1], which builds on top of viper-mode to emulate Vim features too, not just vi features. What needs to be done so Vimpulse can get included as part of Emacs? I know two things: 1. fix Vimpulse's most serious bugs: it is currently buggy 2. do copyright assignment: it hasn't been done yet, and Donald Robertson, GNU copyright clerk, said it must wait until you accept vimpulse into Emacs. (The two main authors have agreed that they will assign copyright when needed.) I wonder: What else? Cheers, Jason Spiro ^ [1]. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/vimpulse.el -- Jason Spiro: software/web developer, packager, trainer, IT consultant. I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs. +1 (416) 992-3445 / www.jspiro.com

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