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[implementations-list] Dear FSF clerk, here are all my questions about copyright assigment
by Jason Spiro 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Dear FSF copyright assignment clerk, I am the maintainer of two Emacs add-ons: Vimpulse[1] and viper-in-more-modes[2]. Vimpulse is still too buggy to ship with Emacs, and I don't use or care much about viper-in-more-modes so have never even evaluated whether they can ship with Emacs. But I would like to start getting copyright assignments for both add-ons now so that they can ship with Emacs eventually. I care so little about viper-in-more-modes that I will not talk about it in the rest of this email. The rest of this email talks about Vimpulse only. I am not a main contributor. There are two main contributors: Alessandro Piras (in Italy) and Brad Beveridge (I think in Canada). They said they are both willing to sign copyright assignment papers. I have contributed maybe 5 lines of code and dozens of lines of documentation. I have already disclaimed all copyright to my contributions and placed my contributions in the public domain, but I will gladly sign papers too if you like. Question 1: Is it good that I have placed my contributions in the public domain? (I live in Canada.) There have been some other contributors. I have no idea exactly how many; I would have to look at each of the 80 old email threads in my inbox relating to Vimpulse. Maybe I will move them all into the Vimpulse bug tracker at ourproject.org, which is currently empty, for ease of future tracking. The following are estimates based on memories from last year: Some people have contributed one- or two-line fixes. Perhaps half a dozen (or maybe less) people have contributed larger amounts of code: e.g. ten to twenty lines. Question 2: What is the minimum number of lines that requires copyright assignment? (I tried doing a Google search for 'fsf copyright assignment' and found the old document [3] from 'prep' which refers to various files that let me check whether papers have been received and talk more about the various options (assign vs. disclaim) and such. But I couldn't find the files it refers to. It would be wonderful if you could put those files up on the web. Q3: What if someone contributes code which does nothing but define keybindings (keyboard shortcuts)? Q4: Should I include lines of documentation / comments in my count of lines of code? How about blank lines? Q5: There are several unreviewed patches in my inbox. Do you recommend I leave them unreviewed until I have gotten copyright assignment for them? Q6. How about if I tell the pending patch contributors, "Please contact assignments @ gnu.org so you can assign your contributions to the FSF (this is best) or disclaim copyright to your contributions and put them in the public domain (if you are unwilling to assign copyright). After that, please test your patch, and if it tests OK, please merge it into Vimpulse on the EmacsWiki." Please Reply to All. Thanks in advance, --Jason Spiro ^ [1]. http://www.emacswiki.org/elisp/vimpulse.el ^ [2]. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/viper-in-more-modes.el ^ [3]. http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Papers.html

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[implementations-list] Re: viper-in-more-modes
by Stephen Bach 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:57:26PM -0400, Jason Spiro wrote: > 2007/9/16, Stephen Bach <sjbach(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:46:47AM -0500, Jason Spiro wrote: > ... > > > Yes but I am looking for a co-maintainer. If you are interested, I'd > > > love it if you could volunteer even a few hours of your time :) > > > > Perhaps - what would be involved? > > Testing patches on Emacs 21, Emacs 22, and/or XEmacs 21. Preferably > all three. :) Sure, I'd be willing to put in a little effort. I'm currently running Emacs 22 and a 23 snapshot. Let me know what I can do. Regards, Steve

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[implementations-list] Re: vimpulse doesn't work in emacs-snapshot
by Jason Spiro 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

I am replying to two people. 2008/11/16 Frank Terbeck <ft at bewatermyfriend.org> wrote: >Jason Spiro wrote: >> Try it on Emacs 22. Does it work there? > > I just installed emacs22-nox and it *does* work in there. > Does that mean I'm out of luck if I want emacs23 or will there be a > way to get this working there, too? > > Regards, Frank 2008/11/25 Johannes Kanig <johannes.kanig at gmail.com> wrote: > I just tested vimpulse, and it seems to work fine in emacs22 (but I > only played around a bit), but it doesn't work at all in the current > ubuntu emacs-snapshot package. Actually no key works at all, and it > says : Wrong type argument : symbolp (my-get-emulation-keymap) > > I tried commenting the line that reads 'viper--key-maps from the > macro my-get-emulation-keymap, as stated in the list of bugs, but that > doesn't help. > > I know it's a devel package, but it still may be good to know ... I don't know, and I don't use emacs 23, and my elisp skills are not so great. :) Could one of you please subscribe to http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/implementations-list , then ask the emacs help mailing list for help, and send a CC to implementations-list? You must be a list subscriber to post to implementations-list. IIRC the list gets less than five messages per month.

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Re: [implementations-list] (viper devel) Should Viper parse .vimrcfiles? And should "n" and C-s C-s search be integrated?
by Jason A. Spiro 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

2007/10/1, Jon <j(a)ngedit.com> wrote: [ context lost due to top-posting, sorry :) ] > Sorry for the delay in answering. Don't feel bad. I am delighted that someone (you) answered. Now the list can truly be considered active! I wonder if I should invite > ViEmu's approach with .vimrc is that I don't read it. I provide an alternate > .viemurc. How do you parse the .viemurc file? > In my opinion, vim's scripting language is a total PITA. So good luck with > it. It's not among the goals of ViEmu to provide full vim/viml emulation, it > would be too much work for too little a result. But a healthy subset of the > important parts is important for many users. That makes sense. I am considering implementing a larger subset, though, so as to be able to run Vim syntax highlighting scripts. One day. :) -- Jason Spiro: corporate trainer, web developer, IT consultant. I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs and get a free estimate. +1 (613) 668-6096 / Email: info(a)jspiro.com / MSN: jasonspiro(a)hotmail.com

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[implementations-list] (viper devel) Should Viper parse .vimrc files? And should "n" and C-s C-s search be integrated?
by Jason Spiro 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

Hi all and thanks for joining the list. I wonder: * Would it be useful for Viper/Vimpulse[1] to parse users' .vimrc files to see if they have used commands like :set ignorecase and :imap, and to apply those settings, key mappings, and abbreviation definitions in Emacs? * How hard is it to parse Vim scripts badly? To parse them well? How should Viper/Vimpulse parse them? * Should the "last Emacs (Ctrl-s) search" and "last Vi (/) search" be treated as one so that the C-s C-s combo and Viper/Vimpulse's "Repeat Last Search" command (the "n" key) will both repeat the same search?[2] Thanks in advance, Jason P.S. Please Reply to All. I am cc'ing Michael, John, and Alessandro: they aren't on-list. Please join at https://lists.ourproject.org/mailman/listinfo/implementations-list :-) ^ [1]. Viper and Vimpulse provide Vi and Vim emulation for Emacs. ^ [2]. This is much easier to do right if we treat search case sensitivity settings as identical in both Vi and Emacs emulation, at least for search-repetition purposes. -- Jason Spiro: Linux consultant, web developer, Windows corporate trainer. No job too big or too small, whether two hours or two months. Contact me for info; to see my resume, send email with subject line "resume". +1 (613) 668-6096 / Email: info(a)jspiro.com / MSN: jasonspiro(a)hotmail.com

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[implementations-list] Welcome guys
by Jason Spiro 24 Aug '07

24 Aug '07

Hi guys, welcome. So far there are IIRC three people on this mailing list... :) -- Jason Spiro: Linux consultant, web developer, Windows corporate trainer. No job too big or too small, whether two hours or two months. Contact me for info; to see my resume, send email with subject line "resume". +1 (613) 668-6096 / Email: info(a)jspiro.com / MSN: jasonspiro(a)hotmail.com

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