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A couple of questions
by Keshav Kini 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

Hello, First of all, thank you very much for your great work on evil! I'm really pleasantly surprised at how active your development is :) I'm a vim user who is trying to learn emacs without losing the handy modal editing of vim (as I imagine many others on this list are), and evil seems to be exactly what I need. I have a couple of questions. First, I am wondering if evil-want-C-u-scroll is broken. I have set it to t using M-x customize-group evil-mode, which causes (custom-set-variables '(evil-want-C-u-scroll t)) to appear in my ~/.emacs , but I don't see any difference in the behavior of evil. Is there something else I need to do in order to make C-u call evil-scroll-up (as C-h k C-d tells me that C-d is bound to evil-scroll-down)? Second, I am wondering about the behavior of :q . It seems to me that it behaves more like :qa does in vim. According to vim documentation, :q[uit] should "Quit the current window. Quit Vim if this is the last window.". So I guess it should be similar to kill-buffer in emacs, no? Thanks again! -Keshav

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CJK support makes evil-forward-word-begin slow
by Nikolai Weibull 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

Hi! The CJK support added in 7adc3b119fcb4ef58d3d077dc38bc974af8c584b seems to make evil-forward-word-begin run a lot slower than before. evil-backward-word-begin seems to be unaffected, speed wise.

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Evil fedora package & license issue
by Sébastien Willmann 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

Hello, I've created a rpm package for fedora. The review request is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=844173 It seems that only evil.el contains license information. This may be a problem for sources redistribution. Could you put license information to all source files, and add the whole license in a separated file? Thanks, Sébastien Willmann

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x-select-text isn’t always available
by Nikolai Weibull 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hi! A recent change (2012-07-28, 51672c8c) uses x-select-text. x-select-text isn’t available when emacs is running in the terminal, it seems, so this needs to be wrapped up in a conditional.

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Vim switch buffer
by Petch Wannissorn 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Hi, I notice that ':vs' splits screen vertically and C-W, H/L switches to the left/right buffers and they work wonder. I would like to know what is the proper way to rebind the buffer switching? I.e. I just want to do C-H instead of C-W, H to switch to the left pane. Thanks, Petch

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Is undo-tree dependency strictly necessary
by Leo Alekseyev 21 Jul '12

21 Jul '12

I was wondering if undo-tree is only there to match Vim behavior, and if I could use Evil without it. I actually find built-in Emacs undo functionality intuitive and I'm used to how it operates. On the other hand, I've run into some cases where undo-tree didn't behave as expected. If there are no ill consequences in using original Emacs undo vs undo-tree, it would be nice if it were configurable. --Leo P.S.: Thanks Frank and Vegard for quick bug-fixing action!

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evil-mode has led my cursor to the dark side!
by Keshav Kini 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

Hi, evil-mode is so evil that it has stained my cursor black, as black as the soul of evil-mode! I upgraded to Emacs 24.1 from 23.4, and I noticed a new Themes feature, so I set up the "tsdh-dark" theme, only to find that my cursor is now black, even though the background color is a dark gray. At first I thought some of my old customizations might have been conflicting with the theming, but after cleaning up my ~/.emacs as follows, I found the cursor remained black. ; specify packages for el-get (setq my-packages '(column-marker cython-mode evil evil-surround haskell-mode python-mode undo-tree)) (setq evil-want-C-u-scroll t) ; load el-get (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/el-get/el-get") (unless (require 'el-get nil t) (with-current-buffer (url-retrieve-synchronously "https://raw.github.com/dimitri/el-get/master/el-get-install.el") (end-of-buffer) (eval-print-last-sexp))) (el-get 'sync my-packages) ; evil settings (evil-mode 1) (define-key evil-normal-state-map ",l" 'whitespace-mode) ; column markers (add-hook 'python-mode-hook '(lambda () (interactive) (column-marker-1 73) (column-marker-2 80))) (add-hook 'rst-mode-hook '(lambda () (interactive) (column-marker-1 73))) ; load Japanese input (require 'mozc) (setq default-input-method "japanese-mozc") ; setup smtpmail ; [redacted] ; start daemon (server-start) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(custom-enabled-themes (quote (tsdh-dark))) '(evil-want-C-u-scroll t) '(file-precious-flag t) '(indent-tabs-mode nil)) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:width semi-condensed))))) Then I suspected that the theme was just badly designed. But on a hunch, I tried commenting out the line "(evil-mode 1)", and restarted Emacs. The cursor was white! And running "M-x evil-mode" made it black again. How can I fix this? Is it a bug in evil-mode, or am I just doing something wrong? -Keshav

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[gmane.emacs.vim-emulation] evil-mode has led my cursor to the dark side!
by Keshav Kini 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

Hi, Um, I'm not sure why, but the following message doesn't seem to be getting through to the mailing list when I send it via the Gmane NNTP gateway, so I'm sending it through my normal SMTP server instead. -Keshav

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Confused by what command is "dot repeatable"
by York Zhao 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hi, I still find myself confused by the "dot repeating" in Evil. I have many commands, some of them are "automatically" dot repeatable but others are not. For example, I have these two commands: (defun foo () (interactive) ... (kill-region beg end) ... (insert ...) ...) (defun bar () (interactive) ... (insert ...)) I don't see any essential difference between these two commands, except that `foo' was being executed in org-mode while `bar' in c++-mode. And I have no idea why command "foo" is dot repeatable but "bar" is not. I had tried using (evil-declare-change-repeat 'bar) but still, "bar" is not "dot" repeatable. I'm confused by what has made "foo" repeatable. I don't have time to look deeply in the repeat system in Evil so I would appreciate it if someone could give me some quick answer to my question. Thanks, York

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evil-mode has led my cursor to the dark side!
by Keshav Kini 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hi, evil-mode is so evil that it has stained my cursor black, as black as the soul of evil-mode! I upgraded to Emacs 24.1 from 23.4, and I noticed a new Themes feature, so I set up the "tsdh-dark" theme, only to find that my cursor is now black, even though the background color is a dark gray. At first I thought some of my old customizations might have been conflicting with the theming, but after cleaning up my ~/.emacs as follows, I found the cursor remained black. ; specify packages for el-get (setq my-packages '(column-marker cython-mode evil evil-surround haskell-mode python-mode undo-tree)) (setq evil-want-C-u-scroll t) ; load el-get (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/el-get/el-get") (unless (require 'el-get nil t) (with-current-buffer (url-retrieve-synchronously "https://raw.github.com/dimitri/el-get/master/el-get-install.el") (end-of-buffer) (eval-print-last-sexp))) (el-get 'sync my-packages) ; evil settings (evil-mode 1) (define-key evil-normal-state-map ",l" 'whitespace-mode) ; column markers (add-hook 'python-mode-hook '(lambda () (interactive) (column-marker-1 73) (column-marker-2 80))) (add-hook 'rst-mode-hook '(lambda () (interactive) (column-marker-1 73))) ; load Japanese input (require 'mozc) (setq default-input-method "japanese-mozc") ; setup smtpmail ; [redacted] ; start daemon (server-start) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(custom-enabled-themes (quote (tsdh-dark))) '(evil-want-C-u-scroll t) '(file-precious-flag t) '(indent-tabs-mode nil)) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:width semi-condensed))))) Then I suspected that the theme was just badly designed. But on a hunch, I tried commenting out the line "(evil-mode 1)", and restarted Emacs. The cursor was white! And running "M-x evil-mode" made it black again. How can I fix this? Is it a bug in evil-mode, or am I just doing something wrong? -Keshav

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