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[gmane.emacs.vim-emulation] evil-mode has led my cursor to the dark side!
by Keshav Kini 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

Hi, Um, I'm not sure why, but the following message doesn't seem to be getting through to the mailing list when I send it via the Gmane NNTP gateway, so I'm sending it through my normal SMTP server instead. -Keshav

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Confused by what command is "dot repeatable"
by York Zhao 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hi, I still find myself confused by the "dot repeating" in Evil. I have many commands, some of them are "automatically" dot repeatable but others are not. For example, I have these two commands: (defun foo () (interactive) ... (kill-region beg end) ... (insert ...) ...) (defun bar () (interactive) ... (insert ...)) I don't see any essential difference between these two commands, except that `foo' was being executed in org-mode while `bar' in c++-mode. And I have no idea why command "foo" is dot repeatable but "bar" is not. I had tried using (evil-declare-change-repeat 'bar) but still, "bar" is not "dot" repeatable. I'm confused by what has made "foo" repeatable. I don't have time to look deeply in the repeat system in Evil so I would appreciate it if someone could give me some quick answer to my question. Thanks, York

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evil-mode has led my cursor to the dark side!
by Keshav Kini 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hi, evil-mode is so evil that it has stained my cursor black, as black as the soul of evil-mode! I upgraded to Emacs 24.1 from 23.4, and I noticed a new Themes feature, so I set up the "tsdh-dark" theme, only to find that my cursor is now black, even though the background color is a dark gray. At first I thought some of my old customizations might have been conflicting with the theming, but after cleaning up my ~/.emacs as follows, I found the cursor remained black. ; specify packages for el-get (setq my-packages '(column-marker cython-mode evil evil-surround haskell-mode python-mode undo-tree)) (setq evil-want-C-u-scroll t) ; load el-get (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/el-get/el-get") (unless (require 'el-get nil t) (with-current-buffer (url-retrieve-synchronously "https://raw.github.com/dimitri/el-get/master/el-get-install.el") (end-of-buffer) (eval-print-last-sexp))) (el-get 'sync my-packages) ; evil settings (evil-mode 1) (define-key evil-normal-state-map ",l" 'whitespace-mode) ; column markers (add-hook 'python-mode-hook '(lambda () (interactive) (column-marker-1 73) (column-marker-2 80))) (add-hook 'rst-mode-hook '(lambda () (interactive) (column-marker-1 73))) ; load Japanese input (require 'mozc) (setq default-input-method "japanese-mozc") ; setup smtpmail ; [redacted] ; start daemon (server-start) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(custom-enabled-themes (quote (tsdh-dark))) '(evil-want-C-u-scroll t) '(file-precious-flag t) '(indent-tabs-mode nil)) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:width semi-condensed))))) Then I suspected that the theme was just badly designed. But on a hunch, I tried commenting out the line "(evil-mode 1)", and restarted Emacs. The cursor was white! And running "M-x evil-mode" made it black again. How can I fix this? Is it a bug in evil-mode, or am I just doing something wrong? -Keshav

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evil-forward-char
by Samir Jindel 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hello, In evil-mode, the evil-forward-char command restricts movement to the current line and does not allow highlighting the newline, in parallel with the behavior of vim. However, I have observed that even if I bind a key directly to forward-char in evil-mode, I still can not move to the next line or select the newline, though forward-char does work as expected if I leave evil-mode. Is there some way I re-enable the default behavior of forward-char in evil-mode? Thanks.

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Help: Evil documentation
by Frank Fischer 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

Hi everyone, as stated in a recent post one of the most important missing parts of evil for a 1.0 is the documentation. The documentation should cover the main configuration possibilities as well as give some insights to evil's internal architecture. Of course, the first aspect is much more important than the latter. It should give a new user enough information to redefine key-bindings or tweak the customisation options and the advanced user to define own commands and motions. The documentation should be written in texinfo. There's a branch "doc" that already contains some initial documentation that can be used as a starting point but probably needs some restructuring. If anyone wants to contribute some documentation the best way is to send patches for the doc branch. I've written down *my* thoughts of how the outline of the doc should look like. Please feel free to comment, discuss, restructure, modify .... This should only be considered as a first guideline, not as something definite. Some parts are probably relatively easy to fill like states and keymaps, others are much more complicated and can probably only be filled by developers. Fortunately, the non-developer parts are probably more important. Please remember what information you missed when you started with evil ;) Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Frank -- PRELIMINARY OUTLINE --- * Introduction ** What's evil - differences to other packages, viper, vimpulse, vim-mode, ... - see Vim's documentation! ** Download, Installation - ELPA (soon?) - el-get - direct ** Mailing list, IRC, issue tracker * States ** Overview ** Initial states - starting state for major modes * Keymaps ** Overview ** States and keymaps - state specific keymaps (global, local) - keymap hierarchy - (which keymaps are enabled in which state) - priority of keymaps ** Defining key bindings - define key - Delayed initialisation of key bindings, evil-declare-key ** The ESC key - problems in the terminal * Commands ** Overview ** Ranges (inclusive, exclusive, line, block) ** Motions ** Text objects - how to define text objects - helper functions ** Commands ** Operators - Motions/Text objects and operators - Operators in visual state - Operators in ex-state * Interactive codes ** Overview ** Extended predefined codes ** Defining new codes * Ex-state ** Overview ** Defining ex command bindings (evil-ex-define-cmd) ** Defining ex commands (aka operators/commands with special interactive codes) ** Ex argument handlers ** Key bindings in ex state * Searching ** isearch module ** evil built-in module * The repeat system ** Overview ** Key sequence based recording ** Change based recording ** Programmable recording for commands * Customisation options * Helper Functions - functions/variables that can be used for own commands ** Current state, switching states

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∷tener un buen día∷
by chapita_marra 06 Jun '12

06 Jun '12

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Evil-mode and camelcase movement
by Simon Carter 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Hi! I was wondering if there was a canonical method for allowing camelcase and underscore word movement in evil-mode. I've looked at the suggestion in http://slashusr.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/heretical-confessions-of-an-emacs-…, but that solution was somewhat limited (no backward movement, and it only worked with other operators, rather than as an actual method of movement). Many thanks, and apologies in advance if I've missed something obvious! Simon

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Pasted text and repeat ring
by Barry OReilly 01 Jun '12

01 Jun '12

I'll move the discussion of https://bitbucket.org/lyro/evil/issue/164/pasted-text-not-in-repeat-ring to the mailing list in case others are interested. The topic is what Evil does with the repeat ring when the user pastes text (via eg X11) while in insert mode. > vim has similar problems and a simple "solution" everything before the mouse click is dropped and the recording starts again. Probably the vim people have no good solution for the mouse-click problem, too. I see what you mean in gvim. If point moves due to mouse click it starts the recording again, though if I mouse-click where point already is, it doesn't drop the recording. I think gvim's behavior makes sense actually, given a mouse click is deemed non recordable. > Probably most evil-users do not use the mouse that often anyway The choice is limited if pasting from another application's frame. I just realized I made a language error when I said "window" in the original description. I meant "frame" or "the desktop environment's window". Sorry about that.

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1.0 release soon?
by Sanel Zukan 01 Jun '12

01 Jun '12

Hi all, I'm using Evil last couple of months quite actively and is got very stable (congrats to developers!). Is there any plans for official 1.0 release soon? At least with this, we will have option to choose between bleeding edge and something we can always return to if something breaks with the latest code. Also it can be useful for cases (like mine) where we have installed Evil on several computers and from time to time versions got out of sync. Not to say about increased interest for Evil after some official news got spread :) Regards, Sanel

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