September 2010 - Solar-general - lists.ourproject.org

Fwd: Re: [hipatia] Expulsados, declaracion publica de Solar / juntada de firmas
by Juan Carlos Gentile 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

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video sobre ututo
by Diego Saravia 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zyh9Y2NfCM El día 27 de septiembre de 2010 09:26, Pablo Manuel Rizzo <info(a)pablorizzo.com> escribió: > http://trollware.blogspot.com/2010/09/sobre-mi-blog-y-mis-videos.html > > > -- > Pablo Manuel Rizzo > ------------------------------- > http://pablorizzo.com > ------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Espanol mailing list > Espanol(a)lists.ututo.org > http://box481.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/espanol_lists.ututo.org > -- Diego Saravia Diego.Saravia(a)gmail.com NO FUNCIONA->dsa(a)unsa.edu.ar

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trollware, youtube y ututo
by Pablo Manuel Rizzo 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

http://trollware.blogspot.com/2010/09/sobre-mi-blog-y-mis-videos.html -- Pablo Manuel Rizzo ------------------------------- http://pablorizzo.com -------------------------------

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Nueva seccion Cultura Digital
by Pablo Manuel Rizzo 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Acabo de ver una sección nueva en el diario Página/12: http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/tecnologia/index.html -- Pablo Manuel Rizzo ------------------------------- http://pablorizzo.com -------------------------------

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Fwd: Elitism and peer production
by Diego Saravia 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stefan Merten Hi Mathieu and all! 16 months (488 days) ago Mathieu O'Neil wrote: > Then there's the question of elitism. Something I mention from time to time in relation to expertise. I think the last one is an important sentence because it emphasizes expertise. In fact I think any society we can wish for needs lots and lots of expertise - simply because it's so complex and has so many fields of knowledge which are both wide and deep. To me this is an undeniable fact which we can not simply "wish away". Still we need to deal with it. > How to reconcile the fact of being a "big man" in a community because of technical competency with a democratic structure? There is no equality when some people have access to tools and controls which others don't understand. At this point I'd like to stress that (abstract) equality is from the capitalist value set. When I think of a peer production based society I think values like this will / need to be transcended in a positive way. Admittedly I have no clear vision of how this might look like but still I think existing peer production projects give some ideas here. > The bigger the technical system, the more technocratic power grows. True. When I think about this a bit I think there are these key reasons why this is usually not a problem in peer production projects. * Trust The first key reason can be described by trust. If I can trust a powerful person then I can rely on that person doing "good things". In contrast the term elitism to me transports distrust. Since peer production does not rely on classical personal relationships trust can not build up on a personal basis - at least not by the average user of a peer production project and the developers. I think there are structural reasons why people can trust powerful persons in peer production projects. * Non-alienation The most important one is of course that if at all alienation plays a minor role in peer production projects. Thus those powerful persons follow the same goals as I and therefore I have good reasons to believe that I can trust them. * Transparency An important tool for this is transparency in all relevant procedures. By transparency I have the chance to check my assumption that powerful persons follow the goals of the project - at least potentially. In fact peer production projects usually maintain a high level or transparency. * Availability of source Another point why powerful persons are a minor problem in peer production projects is the availability of the sources. When the sources are available for a potential fork then if those powerful persons leave the right track I can use the sources to do my own thing. In this sense the sources are means of production. If the means of production can not be shared so simply - such as big machinery - then this is a source for problems. Still the other points are still valid. * Balance of power by volunteers On this side of a fork there is still the fact that those powerful persons need the community as much as the community needs them. Since the community consists of volunteers people may simply leave if they are not happy with the way things work. Also power has two faces. On the one hand there is the face that it can be abused like you probably worry when talking about elitism. But on the other hand power can be *used* to move things. In fact I'd say this is one of the duties of such persons. Grüße Stefan -- Diego Saravia Diego.Saravia(a)gmail.com NO FUNCIONA->dsa(a)unsa.edu.ar

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Fwd: [CopySouth] Activist held for 'violating copyright law'
by Diego Saravia 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Outrageous! CopySouth was one of the groups that got behind Prof. Potel of Argentina last year when he was arrested and changed criminally with for copyright infringement. The full story is here: http://copysouth.org/portal/node/3 http://copysouth.org/portal/node/4 The charges were dropped in the end ....and in part because so many people and groups like us said " oh no you don't!" Any one interested in forming up a little action/ online petition group to say the same thing about this South African case? It shows, among other things, shows how copyright can be used as a tool of censorship. One of the best known UK copyright cases, the 1972 case of Hubbard v. Vosper involved the head of Scientology, the now deceased Ron Hubbard, trying ---and failing --- to use copyright to silence a critic, Cyril Vosper. Read more here: http://www.xenu.net/archive/audit/vosper.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Vosper Best Alan Alan Story Senior Lecturer, Intellectual Property Law Kent Law School University of Kent Canterbury Kent United Kingdom CT2 7NS acs3(a)kent.ac.uk Phone: +44 (0)1227 823316 "I have my principles, but if you don't like those, I have others." Hi everyone. Here is a link to a local southern African news story about the use of so-called "copyright law" apparently to intimidate political activists. I wonder how many copies he was making? > > A Swazi Youth activist was arrested by a plain clothes police officer for reprinting an article from City Press, the Times of Swaziland reported on Wednesday. Sibusiso Mhlanga, a member of the banned Swaziland Youth Congress (Swayoco), was arrested after a plain clothes officer saw him request photocopies of a City Press article in Manzini. A police spokeswoman said he would be charged for violating copyright law. Click here for the full story. Cheers Colin -- Diego Saravia Diego.Saravia(a)gmail.com NO FUNCIONA->dsa(a)unsa.edu.ar

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flowplayer
by Diego Saravia 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

http://flowplayer.org/ alguien lo ha usado? -- Diego Saravia Diego.Saravia(a)gmail.com NO FUNCIONA->dsa(a)unsa.edu.ar

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Fwd: [solar.general] Otra víctima de la Censura en SOLAR
by Diego Saravia 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

otra censura, estos tipos y tipas barren con toda la oposicion de solar la consigna parece ser: "o nosotros o nadie"! ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- De: <jvillalba(a)riseup.net> Fecha: 26 de septiembre de 2010 21:57 Asunto: [solar.general] Otra víctima de la Censura en SOLAR Para: solar.general(a)librelist.com No está autorizado a enviar mensajes a esta lista de correo y su mensaje ha sido rechazado automáticamente, Si piensa que sus mensajes están siendo rechazados por error, contacte con el propietaro de la lista en solar-publica-owner(a)lists.ourproject.org. Fecha: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:52:46 -0700 De: jvillalba(a)riseup.net Para: solar-publica(a)lists.ourproject.org Asunto: Re: defendiendo el uso de software privativo 2.1 sin nombre 0,28 KB Algún problema con que tenga 15 años? La edad no importa en especial para estas cosas nabo. Se supone que si apoyas el Software Libre no usas Software Privativo. Por último lo digo claro y no me lo guardo andate a la Puta que te Pario. PD: Software Libre no es lo mismo que Open Source -- Diego Saravia Diego.Saravia(a)gmail.com NO FUNCIONA->dsa(a)unsa.edu.ar

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más censura en solar-pública (me expulsaron)
by Marcos Germán Guglielmetti 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

"Se ha dado de baja de la lista de distribución Solar-publica De: solar-publica-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org Para: marcos(a)ovejafm.com Fecha: 26/09/10 15:33" Se ve que no bancan ni un debate. Se ve por qué no quieren debatir, y se ve cuáles son los métodos para no debatir: censurar, así de simple y llano. Bien ¡que sean felices en su burbuja! ;-) Pero como mínimo deberían haber explicado los motivos, dar derecho a defensa, etc. Esto ocurre al mismo tiempo en que el adalid del software "libre" Ariel Alegre, un ejemplo de activista pro SL (léase irónicamente), vuelve a escribir en la lista, y al mismo tiempo en que Bubi, usando Windows y OutLook Express, nos viene a hablar de SL ¡por favor! No les cree nadie ya, por eso recurren a la desesperación y censuran. PD: qué mísero que hay que ser para sentirse contento con manejar un password... ;) -- Marcos Guglielmetti ▲ :::::::::::::::::: M U S I X ::::::::::::::::::::: ▼ www.musix.org.ar www.ovejafm.com _______________________________________________ Para encontrarte con activistas del movimiento social del software libre envia un mail a solar.general(a)librelist.com y luego respondé el mail de bienvenida. PD: usen dukgo.com en vez de google es genial y va camino a ser totalmente libre ¡y no te espía! :-D amo z-mongo

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GPG signature
by Facundo Andrés Bianco 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Estaba buscando si existía info sobre las firmas GPG y las netiqueta y encontré este link: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg17909.html Hay clientes de correo (Thunderbird/Icedove, mutt, etc.) que en lugar de mostrar la firma GPG muestran un aviso de que la misma es o no auténtica de quien escribe. -- Facundo Andrés Bianco (Vando.) GNUPG ID: 0x89C1B42F omb: identi.ca/vando

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