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by Mathieu ONeil 14 Dec '13

14 Dec '13

Hi all There has been a lively discussion on the Internet research listserv about the exorbitant fees levied by academic publishers, possible alternatives, funding for "green" open access journals (as in free all the time like JoPP) as opposed to "gold" open access (where you cough up $2-3000 to Elsevier etc PER ARTICLE to make it free for all). Research funding agencies are starting to support "gold", and one question is how to channel funds for proofreading, copyediting etc to volunteer projects. I suggested using universities as go-betweens or as employers of proofreaders etc and someone else mentioned subscriptions. See: http://listserv.aoir.org/pipermail/air-l-aoir.org/2013-December/029220.html This is an important discussion to have as volunteer projects like JoPP inevitably confront volunteer editor burnout issues. Meanwhile my colleague Rob Ackland (who is nominally on our board though I'm not sure he subscribes to this list so I'm cc-ing him to this message) has made the intriguing proposal to set up a "p2p online social network" for academics as an alternative to academia.edu (a website where academics can upload articles, connect to others, and receive metrics about which papers are the most downloaded as well as where search terms come from) which raises privacy and free labour monetisation issues. See: http://listserv.aoir.org/pipermail/air-l-aoir.org/2013-December/029224.html My personal response: right on Rob! You can count on my support (once I've seen the next draft of that competition paper we've been working on ;-)). Seriously though this could be a significant advance for the commons and JoPP-people either individually or as a collective ought in my view to think about it. I thought I'd sound out support here before replying on Air-L. cheers Mathieu ps. Maurizio has been having issues with his sub to his list so cc-ing him also.

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P2P and the State [was:] RE: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments?
by Mathieu ONeil 14 Dec '13

14 Dec '13

Hi George OK, how about this: we do an "exceptional" out-of-schedule issue based on your (collective) insider knowledge which we would frame as "P2P and the State, Part I: Ecuador" (or whatever title). Release date would be September 2014. Meanwhile you, Vasilis, and whoever put out a CFP for "P2P and the State, Part II: title", inviting critical evaluations of this relationship, and explaining that this is a follow-up to Part I. For maximum impact the CFP for Part II could be disseminated straight after the release of Part I. This may be a bit short to edit an issue though. In which case Part II could come out in Jan 2016 and we would have to put out a CFP in the next 6 months for a different issue to come out in July 2015. What do you think? @all: if anyone out there has an idea about a special issue: now would be good time to jump in so we can discuss the schedule. I am still supposed to be doing an "organisation" issue with Mayo and Dariusz at some point but don't mind someone else coming in first. cheers Mathieu Jan 2014: Value/Currency July 2014: Shared Machine Shops Sept 2014: P2P and the State, Part I. Jan 2015: Law and Disruption July 2015: P2P and the State, Part II. (or Jan 2016?) ________________________________________ From: jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org [jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org] on behalf of george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:41 To: Journal of Peer Production's general and public list Cc: Vasilis Kostakis Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? No doubt about that, Felix: the project is still at a very early stage and it'll probably take quite some time till we can talk about the evaluation of its intended results...But I agree, a creative solution would be to follow-up on the special issue on policy recommendations with another special issue that looks at the implementation of these policies. I think this is certainly something we could do. What do you guys think? -G. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Felix Stalder <felix(a)openflows.com> wrote: > To make an "exceptional" issue would be a good idea, since this is a > very exceptional situation. The problem remains that at the beginning of > such a project, there is very little research about it possible. > > One way to deal with this would be to acknowledge this openly and plan > two issues, one now -- that documents the ambition and the set-up of the > project -- and one quite a bit later -- that researches outcomes > critically. > > The first issue could be driven by people inside the project, as there > is less need for critical distance etc, the second issue should include > substantive contributions from outsiders. > > Felix > > > On 12/09/2013 09:55 AM, Athina Karatzogianni wrote: >> If the editors think its possible, why not? >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au>wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I don't have strong views either way, would be good to get some feedback >>> from others re. possibility of having an "exceptional" (out-of-schedule) >>> issue as discussed with George...? >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Mathieu >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:29 >>> To: Mathieu ONeil >>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis; Journal of Peer Production's general and public list >>> Subject: Re: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? >>> >>> Hi Mathieu, >>> >>> We're very glad to hear that our proposal is well received! Regarding >>> the time-frame, however, we (meaning Vasilis and I) think that it >>> might be better 'to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional issue and >>> disregard the biannual schedule', thus speeding up the process. If >>> doing so doesn't conflict with the planning of other JoPP activities, >>> then I propose we go forward with the original plan: submission of >>> papers by the end of March 2014 and release of the special issue in >>> september 2014. What do you think: would that be possible? >>> >>> Best, >>> -G. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi George >>>> >>>> Wow, this is fantastic news. It is wonderful that you, Vasilis and >>> Michel and others are having this opportunity. So, my first reaction is >>> yes!, of course, a JoPP issue would make perfect sense, provided it does >>> have some reflexive, self-critical elements (why Ecuador? what is the >>> political economy there? etc). >>>> >>>> I hope everyone else will agree and I hope you will not mind my sharing >>> this exciting message with the journal list... >>>> >>>> Re. timing, my personal preference would be to interfere as little as >>> possible with our biannual release schedule: so far we have consistently >>> released in Dec/Jan and in June/July (including once when we released two >>> issues simultaneously - 1 and 2 in July 2012 - which actually gets people's >>> attention quite a bit I think). >>>> >>>> So, this is what is is planned: >>>> >>>> Jan 2014: value/currency >>>> July 2014: shared machine shops >>>> Jan 2015: law and disruption >>>> >>>> So, if we were going to fit with the biannual schedule,* your proposed >>> release date could be brought forward to July 2014, postponed a bit to Jan >>> 2015 (in which case it would be released at the same time as these other >>> ones) or postponed more, to July 2015 in which case it would be a single >>> release: maybe more time for additional content and analysis though a >>> delayed socio-political impact? >>>> >>>> Anyway, I'm excited by this project, eager to hear more from you, and >>> curious to see what others think about it. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Mathieu >>>> >>>> * Another possibility would be to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional >>> issue and disregard the biannual schedule. >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 15:24 >>>> To: Mathieu ONeil >>>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis >>>> Subject: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? >>>> >>>> Dear Mathieu, >>>> >>>> I'm writing from Ecuador, where I arrived about a week ago to work on >>>> the Floksociety project (you must have read something about it on the >>>> Internet: the research project tasked with developing >>>> policies for the transformation of Ecuador into the direction of the >>>> commons and peer-to-peer...) with Michel Bauwens. >>>> >>>> I'm writing you because we would like to do a special issue of the >>>> Journal of Peer Production on the topic of 'transition policies >>>> towards a society of the commons: the case of Ecuador' with me and >>>> Vasilis Kostakis as editors. What we're thinking of is an issue that >>>> includes 7 contributions: >>>> >>>> -the floksociety research is divided into five streams, so each stream >>>> coordinator will contribute a paper >>>> -Michel B. who is the research director, will contribute a paper too >>>> -The editors (Vasilis and I) will contribute the usual introduction. >>>> >>>> As to the time-frame, we could use a process that's more or less as >>> follows: >>>> >>>> -authors send their papers by the end of March 2014 >>>> -submitted papers are reviewed by the editors (and maybe by other JoPP >>>> reviewers as well) who will send their feedback to the authors by the >>>> end of May 2014. Authors have to make the necessary changes and >>>> re-submit the updated papers by the end of July 2014. >>>> -the issue goes live on the web in September 2014. >>>> >>>> What do you think: would something like that be doable? Let me know. >>>> >>>> x, >>>> g. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> JoPP-Public mailing list >>> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> JoPP-Public mailing list >> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org >> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public >> > > -- > > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| http://felix.openflows.com > |OPEN PGP: 056C E7D3 9B25 CAE1 336D 6D2F 0BBB 5B95 0C9F F2AC > > _______________________________________________ > JoPP-Public mailing list > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public _______________________________________________ JoPP-Public mailing list JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public

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Re: [JoPP-Public] How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments?
by george dafermos 10 Dec '13

10 Dec '13

No doubt about that, Felix: the project is still at a very early stage and it'll probably take quite some time till we can talk about the evaluation of its intended results...But I agree, a creative solution would be to follow-up on the special issue on policy recommendations with another special issue that looks at the implementation of these policies. I think this is certainly something we could do. What do you guys think? -G. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Felix Stalder <felix(a)openflows.com> wrote: > To make an "exceptional" issue would be a good idea, since this is a > very exceptional situation. The problem remains that at the beginning of > such a project, there is very little research about it possible. > > One way to deal with this would be to acknowledge this openly and plan > two issues, one now -- that documents the ambition and the set-up of the > project -- and one quite a bit later -- that researches outcomes > critically. > > The first issue could be driven by people inside the project, as there > is less need for critical distance etc, the second issue should include > substantive contributions from outsiders. > > Felix > > > On 12/09/2013 09:55 AM, Athina Karatzogianni wrote: >> If the editors think its possible, why not? >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au>wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I don't have strong views either way, would be good to get some feedback >>> from others re. possibility of having an "exceptional" (out-of-schedule) >>> issue as discussed with George...? >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Mathieu >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:29 >>> To: Mathieu ONeil >>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis; Journal of Peer Production's general and public list >>> Subject: Re: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? >>> >>> Hi Mathieu, >>> >>> We're very glad to hear that our proposal is well received! Regarding >>> the time-frame, however, we (meaning Vasilis and I) think that it >>> might be better 'to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional issue and >>> disregard the biannual schedule', thus speeding up the process. If >>> doing so doesn't conflict with the planning of other JoPP activities, >>> then I propose we go forward with the original plan: submission of >>> papers by the end of March 2014 and release of the special issue in >>> september 2014. What do you think: would that be possible? >>> >>> Best, >>> -G. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi George >>>> >>>> Wow, this is fantastic news. It is wonderful that you, Vasilis and >>> Michel and others are having this opportunity. So, my first reaction is >>> yes!, of course, a JoPP issue would make perfect sense, provided it does >>> have some reflexive, self-critical elements (why Ecuador? what is the >>> political economy there? etc). >>>> >>>> I hope everyone else will agree and I hope you will not mind my sharing >>> this exciting message with the journal list... >>>> >>>> Re. timing, my personal preference would be to interfere as little as >>> possible with our biannual release schedule: so far we have consistently >>> released in Dec/Jan and in June/July (including once when we released two >>> issues simultaneously - 1 and 2 in July 2012 - which actually gets people's >>> attention quite a bit I think). >>>> >>>> So, this is what is is planned: >>>> >>>> Jan 2014: value/currency >>>> July 2014: shared machine shops >>>> Jan 2015: law and disruption >>>> >>>> So, if we were going to fit with the biannual schedule,* your proposed >>> release date could be brought forward to July 2014, postponed a bit to Jan >>> 2015 (in which case it would be released at the same time as these other >>> ones) or postponed more, to July 2015 in which case it would be a single >>> release: maybe more time for additional content and analysis though a >>> delayed socio-political impact? >>>> >>>> Anyway, I'm excited by this project, eager to hear more from you, and >>> curious to see what others think about it. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Mathieu >>>> >>>> * Another possibility would be to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional >>> issue and disregard the biannual schedule. >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 15:24 >>>> To: Mathieu ONeil >>>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis >>>> Subject: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? >>>> >>>> Dear Mathieu, >>>> >>>> I'm writing from Ecuador, where I arrived about a week ago to work on >>>> the Floksociety project (you must have read something about it on the >>>> Internet: the research project tasked with developing >>>> policies for the transformation of Ecuador into the direction of the >>>> commons and peer-to-peer...) with Michel Bauwens. >>>> >>>> I'm writing you because we would like to do a special issue of the >>>> Journal of Peer Production on the topic of 'transition policies >>>> towards a society of the commons: the case of Ecuador' with me and >>>> Vasilis Kostakis as editors. What we're thinking of is an issue that >>>> includes 7 contributions: >>>> >>>> -the floksociety research is divided into five streams, so each stream >>>> coordinator will contribute a paper >>>> -Michel B. who is the research director, will contribute a paper too >>>> -The editors (Vasilis and I) will contribute the usual introduction. >>>> >>>> As to the time-frame, we could use a process that's more or less as >>> follows: >>>> >>>> -authors send their papers by the end of March 2014 >>>> -submitted papers are reviewed by the editors (and maybe by other JoPP >>>> reviewers as well) who will send their feedback to the authors by the >>>> end of May 2014. Authors have to make the necessary changes and >>>> re-submit the updated papers by the end of July 2014. >>>> -the issue goes live on the web in September 2014. >>>> >>>> What do you think: would something like that be doable? Let me know. >>>> >>>> x, >>>> g. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> JoPP-Public mailing list >>> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> JoPP-Public mailing list >> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org >> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public >> > > -- > > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| http://felix.openflows.com > |OPEN PGP: 056C E7D3 9B25 CAE1 336D 6D2F 0BBB 5B95 0C9F F2AC > > _______________________________________________ > JoPP-Public mailing list > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public

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Re: [JoPP-Public] How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments?
by george dafermos 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

Hi Mathieu, We're very glad to hear that our proposal is well received! Regarding the time-frame, however, we (meaning Vasilis and I) think that it might be better 'to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional issue and disregard the biannual schedule', thus speeding up the process. If doing so doesn't conflict with the planning of other JoPP activities, then I propose we go forward with the original plan: submission of papers by the end of March 2014 and release of the special issue in september 2014. What do you think: would that be possible? Best, -G. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> wrote: > Hi George > > Wow, this is fantastic news. It is wonderful that you, Vasilis and Michel and others are having this opportunity. So, my first reaction is yes!, of course, a JoPP issue would make perfect sense, provided it does have some reflexive, self-critical elements (why Ecuador? what is the political economy there? etc). > > I hope everyone else will agree and I hope you will not mind my sharing this exciting message with the journal list... > > Re. timing, my personal preference would be to interfere as little as possible with our biannual release schedule: so far we have consistently released in Dec/Jan and in June/July (including once when we released two issues simultaneously - 1 and 2 in July 2012 - which actually gets people's attention quite a bit I think). > > So, this is what is is planned: > > Jan 2014: value/currency > July 2014: shared machine shops > Jan 2015: law and disruption > > So, if we were going to fit with the biannual schedule,* your proposed release date could be brought forward to July 2014, postponed a bit to Jan 2015 (in which case it would be released at the same time as these other ones) or postponed more, to July 2015 in which case it would be a single release: maybe more time for additional content and analysis though a delayed socio-political impact? > > Anyway, I'm excited by this project, eager to hear more from you, and curious to see what others think about it. > > cheers, > > Mathieu > > * Another possibility would be to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional issue and disregard the biannual schedule. > ________________________________________ > From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 15:24 > To: Mathieu ONeil > Cc: Vasilis Kostakis > Subject: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? > > Dear Mathieu, > > I'm writing from Ecuador, where I arrived about a week ago to work on > the Floksociety project (you must have read something about it on the > Internet: the research project tasked with developing > policies for the transformation of Ecuador into the direction of the > commons and peer-to-peer...) with Michel Bauwens. > > I'm writing you because we would like to do a special issue of the > Journal of Peer Production on the topic of 'transition policies > towards a society of the commons: the case of Ecuador' with me and > Vasilis Kostakis as editors. What we're thinking of is an issue that > includes 7 contributions: > > -the floksociety research is divided into five streams, so each stream > coordinator will contribute a paper > -Michel B. who is the research director, will contribute a paper too > -The editors (Vasilis and I) will contribute the usual introduction. > > As to the time-frame, we could use a process that's more or less as follows: > > -authors send their papers by the end of March 2014 > -submitted papers are reviewed by the editors (and maybe by other JoPP > reviewers as well) who will send their feedback to the authors by the > end of May 2014. Authors have to make the necessary changes and > re-submit the updated papers by the end of July 2014. > -the issue goes live on the web in September 2014. > > What do you think: would something like that be doable? Let me know. > > x, > g. > >

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Re: [JoPP-Public] How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments [was: RE: JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2]
by Mathieu ONeil 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

Hi Johan, all I second Johan's point about an external POV being necessary otherwise it might look a bit propaganda-ish. Re. dates, what do other think? cheers Mathieu ________________________________________ From: jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org [jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org] on behalf of Johan Söderberg [johan.soderberg(a)sts.gu.se] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 7:57 To: jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 Just to +1 Mathieu. Congrats to having got this project underway, George, makes me happy, and of course it would be marvellous to have a special issue about it in JoPP. On the one hand, I want to read about it right away, on the other hand, given the initiative is early-days, postponing a bit (July 15) might not be such a bad idea, for having more reflective distance to the whole thing. I think it should be a priority to have a paper written by at least one outside observer who is not embedded in the project. good luck Johan ________________________________________ Från: jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org [jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org] för jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org [jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org] Skickat: den 8 december 2013 12:00 Till: jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org Ämne: JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 Send JoPP-Public mailing list submissions to jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at jopp-public-owner(a)lists.ourproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of JoPP-Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? (Mathieu ONeil) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 08:00:54 +0000 From: Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? To: george dafermos <georgedafermos(a)gmail.com> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, general and public list <jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org>, Journal Message-ID: <37EAFE25559D4643B43426CE35235DCE019966B9(a)SIXPRD0610MB383.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi George Wow, this is fantastic news. It is wonderful that you, Vasilis and Michel and others are having this opportunity. So, my first reaction is yes!, of course, a JoPP issue would make perfect sense, provided it does have some reflexive, self-critical elements (why Ecuador? what is the political economy there? etc). I hope everyone else will agree and I hope you will not mind my sharing this exciting message with the journal list... Re. timing, my personal preference would be to interfere as little as possible with our biannual release schedule: so far we have consistently released in Dec/Jan and in June/July (including once when we released two issues simultaneously - 1 and 2 in July 2012 - which actually gets people's attention quite a bit I think). So, this is what is is planned: Jan 2014: value/currency July 2014: shared machine shops Jan 2015: law and disruption So, if we were going to fit with the biannual schedule,* your proposed release date could be brought forward to July 2014, postponed a bit to Jan 2015 (in which case it would be released at the same time as these other ones) or postponed more, to July 2015 in which case it would be a single release: maybe more time for additional content and analysis though a delayed socio-political impact? Anyway, I'm excited by this project, eager to hear more from you, and curious to see what others think about it. cheers, Mathieu * Another possibility would be to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional issue and disregard the biannual schedule. ________________________________________ From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 15:24 To: Mathieu ONeil Cc: Vasilis Kostakis Subject: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? Dear Mathieu, I'm writing from Ecuador, where I arrived about a week ago to work on the Floksociety project (you must have read something about it on the Internet: the research project tasked with developing policies for the transformation of Ecuador into the direction of the commons and peer-to-peer...) with Michel Bauwens. I'm writing you because we would like to do a special issue of the Journal of Peer Production on the topic of 'transition policies towards a society of the commons: the case of Ecuador' with me and Vasilis Kostakis as editors. What we're thinking of is an issue that includes 7 contributions: -the floksociety research is divided into five streams, so each stream coordinator will contribute a paper -Michel B. who is the research director, will contribute a paper too -The editors (Vasilis and I) will contribute the usual introduction. As to the time-frame, we could use a process that's more or less as follows: -authors send their papers by the end of March 2014 -submitted papers are reviewed by the editors (and maybe by other JoPP reviewers as well) who will send their feedback to the authors by the end of May 2014. Authors have to make the necessary changes and re-submit the updated papers by the end of July 2014. -the issue goes live on the web in September 2014. What do you think: would something like that be doable? Let me know. x, g. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ JoPP-Public mailing list JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org JoPP: http://www.peerproduction.org End of JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 ****************************************** _______________________________________________ JoPP-Public mailing list JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public

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Re: [JoPP-Public] JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2
by Johan Söderberg 08 Dec '13

08 Dec '13

Just to +1 Mathieu. Congrats to having got this project underway, George, makes me happy, and of course it would be marvellous to have a special issue about it in JoPP. On the one hand, I want to read about it right away, on the other hand, given the initiative is early-days, postponing a bit (July 15) might not be such a bad idea, for having more reflective distance to the whole thing. I think it should be a priority to have a paper written by at least one outside observer who is not embedded in the project. good luck Johan ________________________________________ Från: jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org [jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org] för jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org [jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org] Skickat: den 8 december 2013 12:00 Till: jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org Ämne: JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 Send JoPP-Public mailing list submissions to jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at jopp-public-owner(a)lists.ourproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of JoPP-Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? (Mathieu ONeil) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 08:00:54 +0000 From: Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? To: george dafermos <georgedafermos(a)gmail.com> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b(a)gmail.com>, general and public list <jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org>, Journal Message-ID: <37EAFE25559D4643B43426CE35235DCE019966B9(a)SIXPRD0610MB383.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi George Wow, this is fantastic news. It is wonderful that you, Vasilis and Michel and others are having this opportunity. So, my first reaction is yes!, of course, a JoPP issue would make perfect sense, provided it does have some reflexive, self-critical elements (why Ecuador? what is the political economy there? etc). I hope everyone else will agree and I hope you will not mind my sharing this exciting message with the journal list... Re. timing, my personal preference would be to interfere as little as possible with our biannual release schedule: so far we have consistently released in Dec/Jan and in June/July (including once when we released two issues simultaneously - 1 and 2 in July 2012 - which actually gets people's attention quite a bit I think). So, this is what is is planned: Jan 2014: value/currency July 2014: shared machine shops Jan 2015: law and disruption So, if we were going to fit with the biannual schedule,* your proposed release date could be brought forward to July 2014, postponed a bit to Jan 2015 (in which case it would be released at the same time as these other ones) or postponed more, to July 2015 in which case it would be a single release: maybe more time for additional content and analysis though a delayed socio-political impact? Anyway, I'm excited by this project, eager to hear more from you, and curious to see what others think about it. cheers, Mathieu * Another possibility would be to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional issue and disregard the biannual schedule. ________________________________________ From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 15:24 To: Mathieu ONeil Cc: Vasilis Kostakis Subject: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? Dear Mathieu, I'm writing from Ecuador, where I arrived about a week ago to work on the Floksociety project (you must have read something about it on the Internet: the research project tasked with developing policies for the transformation of Ecuador into the direction of the commons and peer-to-peer...) with Michel Bauwens. I'm writing you because we would like to do a special issue of the Journal of Peer Production on the topic of 'transition policies towards a society of the commons: the case of Ecuador' with me and Vasilis Kostakis as editors. What we're thinking of is an issue that includes 7 contributions: -the floksociety research is divided into five streams, so each stream coordinator will contribute a paper -Michel B. who is the research director, will contribute a paper too -The editors (Vasilis and I) will contribute the usual introduction. As to the time-frame, we could use a process that's more or less as follows: -authors send their papers by the end of March 2014 -submitted papers are reviewed by the editors (and maybe by other JoPP reviewers as well) who will send their feedback to the authors by the end of May 2014. Authors have to make the necessary changes and re-submit the updated papers by the end of July 2014. -the issue goes live on the web in September 2014. What do you think: would something like that be doable? Let me know. x, g. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ JoPP-Public mailing list JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org JoPP: http://www.peerproduction.org End of JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 ******************************************

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Re: [JoPP-Public] How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments?
by Mathieu ONeil 08 Dec '13

08 Dec '13

Hi George Wow, this is fantastic news. It is wonderful that you, Vasilis and Michel and others are having this opportunity. So, my first reaction is yes!, of course, a JoPP issue would make perfect sense, provided it does have some reflexive, self-critical elements (why Ecuador? what is the political economy there? etc). I hope everyone else will agree and I hope you will not mind my sharing this exciting message with the journal list... Re. timing, my personal preference would be to interfere as little as possible with our biannual release schedule: so far we have consistently released in Dec/Jan and in June/July (including once when we released two issues simultaneously - 1 and 2 in July 2012 - which actually gets people's attention quite a bit I think). So, this is what is is planned: Jan 2014: value/currency July 2014: shared machine shops Jan 2015: law and disruption So, if we were going to fit with the biannual schedule,* your proposed release date could be brought forward to July 2014, postponed a bit to Jan 2015 (in which case it would be released at the same time as these other ones) or postponed more, to July 2015 in which case it would be a single release: maybe more time for additional content and analysis though a delayed socio-political impact? Anyway, I'm excited by this project, eager to hear more from you, and curious to see what others think about it. cheers, Mathieu * Another possibility would be to treat this as a "one-off" exceptional issue and disregard the biannual schedule. ________________________________________ From: george dafermos [georgedafermos(a)gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 15:24 To: Mathieu ONeil Cc: Vasilis Kostakis Subject: How about a JoPP special issue on Ecuadorian p2p developments? Dear Mathieu, I'm writing from Ecuador, where I arrived about a week ago to work on the Floksociety project (you must have read something about it on the Internet: the research project tasked with developing policies for the transformation of Ecuador into the direction of the commons and peer-to-peer...) with Michel Bauwens. I'm writing you because we would like to do a special issue of the Journal of Peer Production on the topic of 'transition policies towards a society of the commons: the case of Ecuador' with me and Vasilis Kostakis as editors. What we're thinking of is an issue that includes 7 contributions: -the floksociety research is divided into five streams, so each stream coordinator will contribute a paper -Michel B. who is the research director, will contribute a paper too -The editors (Vasilis and I) will contribute the usual introduction. As to the time-frame, we could use a process that's more or less as follows: -authors send their papers by the end of March 2014 -submitted papers are reviewed by the editors (and maybe by other JoPP reviewers as well) who will send their feedback to the authors by the end of May 2014. Authors have to make the necessary changes and re-submit the updated papers by the end of July 2014. -the issue goes live on the web in September 2014. What do you think: would something like that be doable? Let me know. x, g.

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PhD funding scheme
by Andreas Wittel 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Hi all, this might be of interest to some on this list. andreas *AHRC funding for UK/EU Arts and Humanities research students* The Midlands3Cities Doctoral Training Partnership will be awarding 410 PhD studentships over a five year period to excellent research students in the Arts and Humanities. The DTP, a collaboration between Nottingham Trent, Nottingham, Birmingham, Birmingham City, Leicester and De Montfort universities, provides research candidates with cross-institutional mentoring, expert supervision, including cross-institutional supervision where appropriate, subject specific and generic training, and professional support in preparing for a career. *Nottingham Trent University is inviting applications from students whose research interests include:* - peer production - (digital) commons - digital media - political economy - free culture, piracy, sharing, open access etc. - networked labour The deadline for AHRC funding applications is 9th January 2014, by which time students must have applied for a place to study and have provided two references to a university within the DTP. For full details of eligibility, funding and research supervision areas, please visit www.midlands3cities.ac.uk or contact enquiries(a)midlands3cities.ac.uk<https://owa.ntu.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=9XPC5DfEikOQg7OyOEW2aLQR8npOvtAIJFZO…>. Please send initial expressions of interest and research proposals to andreas.wittel(a)ntu.ac.uk

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FW: Red Plenty by Nick Dyer-Witheford
by Mathieu ONeil 08 Nov '13

08 Nov '13

Hi Jakob, all @Jakob: thanks for the heads-up. Dyer-Witheford's article (freely available from Culture Machine) cites several pieces published in JoPP so I thought people on this list might be interested to check it out. cheers Mathieu ________________________________ From: Jakob Rigi [rigij(a)ceu.hu] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:56 To: Mathieu ONeil; discussion(a)lists.icts-and-society.net Subject: Red Plenty by Nick Dyer-Witheford Hi All, Just finished the reading the "Red plenty" by Nick Dyer-Witheford. It incites revolutionary aspirations with the most cogent arguments. It is a kind of poetry of reason. Nick summarizing the debate of cyber communism to date, imagines his own version of such a communism, which to my mind is also the most realistic and complex version. best Jakob

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Advice page
by Mathieu ONeil 05 Nov '13

05 Nov '13

Hi all I finally got around to writing the advice page for special issue editors. It is at http://peerproduction.net/about/advice/ If anyone wants to have a look and offer comments or advice that would be helpful. Particularly addresses for mailing lists (see message below for those I did not include)...? You can send them to me or if you have editing rights add them yourself. cheers, Mathieu ________________________________________ From: jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org [jopp-public-bounces(a)lists.ourproject.org] on behalf of Mathieu ONeil [mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 16:07 To: maxigas Cc: jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] Fablab deadline Hi Maxigas, Johan, all I posted the message below to the following lists : AIR, CITASA, ICTs&Society, ACS. Fibreculture Have not done: OpenManufacturing NetworkedLabour STS-Sweden ecrea DIYresearch STSgrad (4S) EASST mediaanthro MECCSA(a)JISCMAIL.AC.UK nettime Hackerspaces.org mailing list Ecrea

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