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Re: [JoPP-Public] Re : Re: Journal Website
by Mathieu ONeil 14 Mar '12

14 Mar '12

Hi Franco, Athina, all OK, I've had a think and I reckon there are a number of points to discuss. (=> proposed actions.) § Homepage: This page has a menu-bar at the bottom with the different categories (research, debate, section). We dont really need this any more as we are not grouping articles in this way. => I can't modify this as this page appears to be blocked. Can you help? - thanks. § About: -"Mission statement" should probably be renamed "Submission" as the mission statement part is already on the first page and there is a lot more content to be added which details the kind of submissions (research, debate, etc) which we are interested. -There is a page called "Participate" which should probably be renamed "Mailing lists" like this one: <http://cspp.oekonux.org/about/mailing-list> This could also include a link to the still active jox cspp list. => Does everyone agree? I can't modify this either as all these page appear to be blocked. Can you help? - thanks. § Research section: As you can see from say <http://cspp.oekonux.org/research/mass-peer-activism/rs1.1-swedish-file-shar…>, research articles have a lot of different files - there is a summary, the pdf of the paper, the pdf of final signals, and pdfs of backrgound material (the original submissions and reviews). The way it was set up in Plone was by having different pages for all these pdfs but it might be easier (if possible) to have them all on one page. => What do you think? § Structure: I do need to return to the importance of having a page which gives a reasonably detailed summary of the content of each issue as FM does. Athina on this list and Francesca privately also agreed that this is necessary. So instead of the current content of the "Issue 0" page (which should in fact be the "Editorial") we should have something like: Issue 0: Mass Peer Activism Editorial Research: Mass peer activism Jonas Andersson, "The origins and impacts of Swedish filesharing: A Case study". Mathieu O'Neil, "The Sociology of Critique in Wikipedia". Debate: ANT and power Johan Söderberg, "ANT & Hegelian Marxism". Nathaniel Tkacz, "In defence of ANT". Mathieu O'Neil, "Domination & networks". Reports Johanna Niesyto & Nathaniel Tkacz, "Critical Point of View". Leonhard Dobusch & Michelle Thorne, "Third Free Culture Research Conference". => I am happy to do this, if you are OK with it. I realise that there are some smaller menus in sidebars on "Home" and the current version of "Research" but once again these only have section titles or article titles and I think it is the norm for research journals to have author/title. cheers, Mathieu On 03/10/12, Athina <athina.k(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hallo from Amsterdam wish you were here I am at the unlike us Facebook conference and it's cool > About layout a clear page with each issue in the usual manner is indeed better > > > Pass me the slippers > > > > > Athina > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 Mar 2012, at 11:19, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Franco, all > > > > First, thanks again to Franco for stepping up and helping us. He has done a great job. My concern with the current layout is that people will not get a sense of who has done what until they are on an article page. > > > > We experimented with the division in three parts - research, debate, reports - on the cspp site and agreed that it was not satisfactory because it gets confusing once you start piling issue upon issue - so a page clearly listing table of contents for each issue (showing for example sections, authors, editors, facilitators etc) following, or closely related to the First Monday model, is pretty important in my view. Alessandro raised this point a few weeks ago as well. > > > > What do others think? > > > > @Franco: is there a way to get to this? > > > > We can discuss this offlist more in detail if people think this is too technical but I thought it important that these design issues are given a public hearing as they tend to be hard to change later. > > > > cheers > > > > Mathieu > > > > Le 03/09/12, Franco Iacomella <franco(a)p2pfoundation.net> a écrit : > > > El 05/03/12 11:42, Mathieu ONeil escribió: > > > >Hi Franco > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > >I see you have begun to import content into the JoPP site - great, thanks! > > > > > > :) > > > > > > >Just a quick word to remind you that the "issues" page should be a table > > > >of contents a bit like: > > > > > > > >(http://firstmonday.org/issue/archive)http://firstmonday.org/issue/archive > > > > > > I modified the Issues page so it now list all the issues in a similar format. Just the title of each Issue is missing. > > > > > > >... where different issues would then lead to something like: > > > > > > > >(http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/issue/view/356)ht… > > > > > > That is already there, we are not using OJS to display the issue content, so it wont look exactly like that. But I think our version is better, includes the TOC and download links for PDF and ePub. > > > > > > >If you can set this up I will start putting content in as well. > > > > > > Well, it's done. However, you don't need to wait to improve the page layouts to start adding content. Issue #0 is almost done, but "Research" section is missing content, so you can start there. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Franco Iacomella > > > > > > > > -- > > **** > > Dr Mathieu O'Neil > > Adjunct Research Fellow > > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute > > College of Arts and Social Science > > The Australian National University > > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au > > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > JoPP-Public mailing list > > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org > > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public > > > > > > > > -- **** Dr Mathieu O'Neil Adjunct Research Fellow Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute College of Arts and Social Science The Australian National University email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php

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Re : Re: Journal Website
by Mathieu ONeil 10 Mar '12

10 Mar '12

Hi Franco, all First, thanks again to Franco for stepping up and helping us. He has done a great job. My concern with the current layout is that people will not get a sense of who has done what until they are on an article page. We experimented with the division in three parts - research, debate, reports - on the cspp site and agreed that it was not satisfactory because it gets confusing once you start piling issue upon issue - so a page clearly listing table of contents for each issue (showing for example sections, authors, editors, facilitators etc) following, or closely related to the First Monday model, is pretty important in my view. Alessandro raised this point a few weeks ago as well. What do others think? @Franco: is there a way to get to this? We can discuss this offlist more in detail if people think this is too technical but I thought it important that these design issues are given a public hearing as they tend to be hard to change later. cheers Mathieu Le 03/09/12, Franco Iacomella <franco(a)p2pfoundation.net> a écrit : > El 05/03/12 11:42, Mathieu ONeil escribió: > >Hi Franco > > Hi! > > >I see you have begun to import content into the JoPP site - great, thanks! > > :) > > >Just a quick word to remind you that the "issues" page should be a table > >of contents a bit like: > > > >http://firstmonday.org/issue/archive > > I modified the Issues page so it now list all the issues in a similar format. Just the title of each Issue is missing. > > >... where different issues would then lead to something like: > > > >http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/issue/view/356 > > That is already there, we are not using OJS to display the issue content, so it wont look exactly like that. But I think our version is better, includes the TOC and download links for PDF and ePub. > > >If you can set this up I will start putting content in as well. > > Well, it's done. However, you don't need to wait to improve the page layouts to start adding content. Issue #0 is almost done, but "Research" section is missing content, so you can start there. > > > Best, > > > > -- > Franco Iacomella > > -- **** Dr Mathieu O'Neil Adjunct Research Fellow Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute College of Arts and Social Science The Australian National University email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php

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Journal Website
by Mathieu ONeil 09 Mar '12

09 Mar '12

Hi Franco I see you have begun to import content into the JoPP site - great, thanks! Just a quick word to remind you that the "issues" page should be a table of contents a bit like: http://firstmonday.org/issue/archive ... where different issues would then lead to something like: http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/issue/view/356 If you can set this up I will start putting content in as well. cheers, Mathieu

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Thank you for the update
by Francesca Musiani 26 Feb '12

26 Feb '12

Bonsoir Mathieu, Thank you for the update. I look forward to the next steps. :) regards to all, Francesca On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:01 PM, <jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org> wrote: > Send JoPP-Public mailing list submissions to > jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > jopp-public-request(a)lists.ourproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > jopp-public-owner(a)lists.ourproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of JoPP-Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. testing... (Mathieu ONeil) > 2. Welcome to the list yall (Mathieu ONeil) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:10:01 +0100 > From: Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> > Subject: [JoPP-Public] testing... > To: jopp-public(a)lists.ourproject.org > Message-ID: <7720d6d28ac9.4f497859(a)anu.edu.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > 1,2,3 >

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Welcome to the list yall
by Mathieu ONeil 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

Hi StefanMz, Francesca, all @StefanMz: the jopp-public archive is empty 'cause no-one had posted anything yet... The status of JoPP is: on hold. Following the conflicts of last year I thought it would be good to re-set and start afresh but I guess I was more burnt out and disappointed than I realised. In addition, to be honest I have been putting work on this project in front of everything else and now there are other things I need to take care of more urgently. So there have been delays, but the issue will come out. I have contacted most of the previous SC and will let everyone know what the result is once I get all the feedback. I will try to coordinate with Franco to populate the new site next week with CSPP 1 content, then touch base with the other editors to recap with where we are at regarding content for the next issue (CSPP2=> JoPP 1). cheers, Mathieu ps. The reason I contacted people offlist to organise the migration was because I could not handle any more conflict. It was either that or let the whole thing die completely IMHO. What is done is done, I did the best I could under the circumstances, don't see much point going on about that.

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testing...
by Mathieu ONeil 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

1,2,3

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