Hi Christian, all
Yes, good point. However if we remove the mission statement from the submission subpage there is always the chance that someone will go straight to the sub page through the top menu and miss the mission statement - so maybe it should be on both?
cheers
Mathieu
On 10/26/12, Christian Siefkes <christian(a)siefkes.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I friend notes that the journal's "About" is empty. There are various
> subpages visible in the menu on top, but the page itself has no content.
>
> The first subpage is entitled "Submissions" but has the link
> <http://peerproduction.net/about/mission-statement/>. It contains both, the
> mission statement and info on "How to submit to the Journal". One way of
> fixing the empty About page would be to move the mission statement there and
> limit the Submissions page to submission info only.
>
> Best regards
> Christian
>
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> The contention that a standing army and navy is the best security of peace
> is about as logical as the claim that the most peaceful citizen is he who
> goes about heavily armed.
> -- Emma Goldman, Anarchism and Other Essays
>
>
>
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Hi all,
I friend notes that the journal's "About" is empty. There are various
subpages visible in the menu on top, but the page itself has no content.
The first subpage is entitled "Submissions" but has the link
<http://peerproduction.net/about/mission-statement/>. It contains both, the
mission statement and info on "How to submit to the Journal". One way of
fixing the empty About page would be to move the mission statement there and
limit the Submissions page to submission info only.
Best regards
Christian
--
|------- Dr. Christian Siefkes ------- christian(a)siefkes.net -------
| Homepage: http://www.siefkes.net/ | Blog: http://www.keimform.de/
| Peer Production Everywhere: http://peerconomy.org/wiki/
|---------------------------------- OpenPGP Key ID: 0x346452D8 --
The contention that a standing army and navy is the best security of peace
is about as logical as the claim that the most peaceful citizen is he who
goes about heavily armed.
-- Emma Goldman, Anarchism and Other Essays
Hi Clément, Franco, all
On 10/12/12, Clement Quinson <clement.quinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi !
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> wrote:
> > OK, well Clément from Electrolab (cc-ed to this message) is interested in
> > working with us on the hacker / peer production spaces documentation
> > project. I will subscribe him to this list if we proceed (see below).
> Sure :) Haven't seen any emails about that yet, tho.
>
Well, I wanted to evaluate community interest, and so far, apart from us three, its zero - but you can subscribe in any case - I don't know why I always tell people I will subscribe them; I can't actually do it myself..
https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
>
>
> > Clément pointed me to hackerspaces.org which lists hacklabs globally.
> >
> > In the first instance our own project would be a resource documenting best
> > practice, experiences, problems that can be avoided, tips etc by people
> > involved in hacklabs and other peer production spaces. We would need to
> > define a questionnaire and then contact people. If someone has a better idea
> > about how to do this please go ahead, it is still very open at this stage.
> Sounds good.
>
> > From this emerge a number of questions:
> >
> > @Franco: can we set up a new subdomain like surveys.peerproduction.net?
>
(copying in Franco's message "Of course. We should also define what tool do we want to use in that domain."
I dont know, what is the best way to present a searchable archive of questionnaires?
Since not many people are interested in driving this a self-entering (once authorised) tool could be envisaged? Perhaps too risky, oversight needed?
>
> >
> > @all (1): we need to define a title. I suggest spaces.peerproduction.net -
> > less restrictive than "hackerspaces" IMO.
> Yes, there is always a question about hackerspace/makerspace/fablab,
> etc... although these are different kind of spaces, I guess what we
> want to do here is above that distinction. Somehow, trying to figure
> out what are the differences is maybe something the questionnaire
> should try to help with...
>
Thats a great idea - teasing out how actors construct / envisage their conception of their alternative spaces.
>
>
> > @all (2): we need (a) contact person(s) to drive this forward. I am happy to
> > help but would prefer it if the responsibility was shared... so, who would
> > like to get involved?
> Well... I'm not really sure I can help by being lead/drive on this, I
> am already way too busy on other topics.
>
> My contribution to this would be to help spread the questionnaire, and
> also, before that, help making it relevant, maybe spread it to few
> contacts I have to check what they have to say about the first
> versions we'll come up with.
>
Sounds good - I guess we can begin drafting a list of questions.
>
>
>
> Something else: some guy did one or two similar studies some time ago.
> It should be referenced somewhere in hackerspaces.org. It was more
> about the demographics of hackerspaces... might be of interest though.
>
OK, a precise ref. would be useful, if you have it.
cheers
Mathieu
>
>
>
> C.
>
>
>
> > cheers
> >
> > Mathieu
> >
> > Le 09/27/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi George
> >
> > Well sure but we have to like it too ;-)
> >
> > I just wrote to him to let him know that we are OK with this idea and to ask
> > him to confirm whether he wants to go ahead - if he says yes we can
> > subscribe him.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Mathieu
> >
> > On 09/27/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > my own preference is for hacklabs.peerproduction.net but i think this
> > decision ultimately lies with the person who'll be responsible for
> > that project. Is he on this mailing list?
> > x,
> > g.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Mathieu ONeil
> > <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> wrote:
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> OK, so what should we call this project?
> >>
> >> There already is "surveys.peerproduction.net"
> >>
> >> So: "hacklabs.peerproduction.net"
> >> Or: "makers.peerproduction.net"
> >> Or: "spaces.peerproduction.net"
> >> ?
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> Mathieu
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/26/12, Athina Karatzogianni <athina.k(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There are various hacklabs I am in touch with too and I could ask them if
> >> there are interested in getting involved
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi George, all
> >>>
> >>> Yes, we should have a new menu for "projects" (for ex.) on the homepage.
> >>> In my view having only one would look kind of "under-populated" - if we
> >>> do
> >>> have more (like the one below) it would look better.
> >>>
> >>> cheers
> >>>
> >>> Mathieu
> >>>
> >>> On 09/23/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Mathieu,
> >>>
> >>> I think too it's a good idea to set up another subdomain for that
> >>> hacklab documentation project (assuming, of course, that the person
> >>> you met at the conference agrees to have his project hosted in this
> >>> way). But shouldn't we also add some kind of links to those two
> >>> subdomains/projects from the JoPP homepage?
> >>>
> >>> x,
> >>> g.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi all
> >>> >
> >>> > The event was very well-attended and the conference went fine (though
> >>> > the
> >>> > machines and lights made it a tad hot for some). We met some
> >>> > interesting
> >>> > people including a guy active in a local hacklab who appeared to be
> >>> > well
> >>> > connected to the French hacklab scene and is interested in documenting
> >>> > it
> >>> > somehow. Since we already have the "surveys.peerproduction" subdomain
> >>> > perhaps we could set up another subdomain and have more than one
> >>> > subproject
> >>> > - either that or we could just do a series of questionnaires of
> >>> > hacklabs,
> >>> > but I like the idea of having more than one subdomain...?
> >>> >
> >>> > Any thoughts?
> >>> >
> >>> > cheers
> >>> >
> >>> > Mathieu
> >>> >
> >>> > On 09/22/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi all
> >>> >
> >>> > This afternoon at 3PM Johan and I will be speaking at a conference
> >>> > organised
> >>> > during what is billed as the first-ever French "Maker Faire" in
> >>> > Saint-Ouen.
> >>> > A celebration of hardware hacking and DIY culture.
> >>> > http://openbidouillecamp.tumblr.com/
> >>> >
> >>> > cheers
> >>> >
> >>> > Mathieu
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > ****
> >>> > Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> >>> > Adjunct Research Fellow
> >>> > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> >>> > College of Arts and Social Science
> >>> > The Australian National University
> >>> > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> >>> > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
> >>> >
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > JoPP-Public mailing list
> >>> > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> >>> > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> JoPP-Public mailing list
> >>> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ****
> >>> Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> >>> Adjunct Research Fellow
> >>> Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> >>> College of Arts and Social Science
> >>> The Australian National University
> >>> email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> >>> web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> JoPP-Public mailing list
> >>> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr Athina Karatzogianni
> >> Senior Lecturer in New Media and Political Communication
> >> Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
> >> The University of Hull
> >> United Kingdom
> >> HU6 7RX
> >> T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 6083
> >> E: a.karatzogianni(a)hull.ac.uk
> >>
> >> on twitter
> >> on facebook
> >> on linkedin
> >>
> >> Download my work
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ****
> >> Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> >> Adjunct Research Fellow
> >> Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> >> College of Arts and Social Science
> >> The Australian National University
> >> email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> >> web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> JoPP-Public mailing list
> >> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> >> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > JoPP-Public mailing list
> > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> >
> > --
> > ****
> > Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> > Adjunct Research Fellow
> > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> > College of Arts and Social Science
> > The Australian National University
> > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
> >
> > --
> > ****
> > Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> > Adjunct Research Fellow
> > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> > College of Arts and Social Science
> > The Australian National University
> > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
>
>
--
****
Dr Mathieu O'Neil
Adjunct Research Fellow
Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
College of Arts and Social Science
The Australian National University
email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
Hi all
OK, well Clément from Electrolab (cc-ed to this message) is interested in working with us on the hacker / peer production spaces documentation project. I will subscribe him to this list if we proceed (see below).
Clément pointed me to hackerspaces.org which lists hacklabs globally.
In the first instance our own project would be a resource documenting best practice, experiences, problems that can be avoided, tips etc by people involved in hacklabs and other peer production spaces. We would need to define a questionnaire and then contact people. If someone has a better idea about how to do this please go ahead, it is still very open at this stage.
>From this emerge a number of questions:
@Franco: can we set up a new subdomain like surveys.peerproduction.net?
@all (1): we need to define a title. I suggest spaces.peerproduction.net - less restrictive than "hackerspaces" IMO.
@all (2): we need (a) contact person(s) to drive this forward. I am happy to help but would prefer it if the responsibility was shared... so, who would like to get involved?
cheers
Mathieu
Le 09/27/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> a écrit :
> Hi George
>
> Well sure but we have to like it too ;-)
>
> I just wrote to him to let him know that we are OK with this idea and to ask him to confirm whether he wants to go ahead - if he says yes we can subscribe him.
>
> cheers
>
> Mathieu
>
> On 09/27/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > my own preference is for hacklabs.peerproduction.net but i think this
> > decision ultimately lies with the person who'll be responsible for
> > that project. Is he on this mailing list?
> > x,
> > g.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Mathieu ONeil
> > <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > OK, so what should we call this project?
> > >
> > > There already is "surveys.peerproduction.net"
> > >
> > > So: "hacklabs.peerproduction.net"
> > > Or: "makers.peerproduction.net"
> > > Or: "spaces.peerproduction.net"
> > > ?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Mathieu
> > >
> > >
> > > On 09/26/12, Athina Karatzogianni <athina.k(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There are various hacklabs I am in touch with too and I could ask them if
> > > there are interested in getting involved
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi George, all
> > >>
> > >> Yes, we should have a new menu for "projects" (for ex.) on the homepage.
> > >> In my view having only one would look kind of "under-populated" - if we do
> > >> have more (like the one below) it would look better.
> > >>
> > >> cheers
> > >>
> > >> Mathieu
> > >>
> > >> On 09/23/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Mathieu,
> > >>
> > >> I think too it's a good idea to set up another subdomain for that
> > >> hacklab documentation project (assuming, of course, that the person
> > >> you met at the conference agrees to have his project hosted in this
> > >> way). But shouldn't we also add some kind of links to those two
> > >> subdomains/projects from the JoPP homepage?
> > >>
> > >> x,
> > >> g.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hi all
> > >> >
> > >> > The event was very well-attended and the conference went fine (though
> > >> > the
> > >> > machines and lights made it a tad hot for some). We met some interesting
> > >> > people including a guy active in a local hacklab who appeared to be well
> > >> > connected to the French hacklab scene and is interested in documenting
> > >> > it
> > >> > somehow. Since we already have the "surveys.peerproduction" subdomain
> > >> > perhaps we could set up another subdomain and have more than one
> > >> > subproject
> > >> > - either that or we could just do a series of questionnaires of
> > >> > hacklabs,
> > >> > but I like the idea of having more than one subdomain...?
> > >> >
> > >> > Any thoughts?
> > >> >
> > >> > cheers
> > >> >
> > >> > Mathieu
> > >> >
> > >> > On 09/22/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil(a)anu.edu.au> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi all
> > >> >
> > >> > This afternoon at 3PM Johan and I will be speaking at a conference
> > >> > organised
> > >> > during what is billed as the first-ever French "Maker Faire" in
> > >> > Saint-Ouen.
> > >> > A celebration of hardware hacking and DIY culture.
> > >> > http://openbidouillecamp.tumblr.com/
> > >> >
> > >> > cheers
> > >> >
> > >> > Mathieu
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > ****
> > >> > Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> > >> > Adjunct Research Fellow
> > >> > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> > >> > College of Arts and Social Science
> > >> > The Australian National University
> > >> > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> > >> > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
> > >> >
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > JoPP-Public mailing list
> > >> > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> > >> > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> JoPP-Public mailing list
> > >> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> > >> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> ****
> > >> Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> > >> Adjunct Research Fellow
> > >> Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> > >> College of Arts and Social Science
> > >> The Australian National University
> > >> email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> > >> web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> JoPP-Public mailing list
> > >> JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> > >> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dr Athina Karatzogianni
> > > Senior Lecturer in New Media and Political Communication
> > > Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
> > > The University of Hull
> > > United Kingdom
> > > HU6 7RX
> > > T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 6083
> > > E: a.karatzogianni(a)hull.ac.uk
> > >
> > > on twitter
> > > on facebook
> > > on linkedin
> > >
> > > Download my work
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ****
> > > Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> > > Adjunct Research Fellow
> > > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> > > College of Arts and Social Science
> > > The Australian National University
> > > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> > > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > JoPP-Public mailing list
> > > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> > > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > JoPP-Public mailing list
> > JoPP-Public(a)lists.ourproject.org
> > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public
> >
> >
> --
> ****
> Dr Mathieu O'Neil
> Adjunct Research Fellow
> Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> College of Arts and Social Science
> The Australian National University
> email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
>
--
****
Dr Mathieu O'Neil
Adjunct Research Fellow
Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
College of Arts and Social Science
The Australian National University
email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
