March 2004 - Solar-general - lists.ourproject.org

contacto
by Reactor Videofilia 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

Hola, Mi nombre es Andres Llamosas, me gustaría comunicarme con ustedes. Yo soy videasta y formo parte de un grupo artístico que nos llamamos REACTOR VIDEOFILIA, realizando intervenciones, videoarte, videoinstalaciones, y trabajamos a partir del uso de tecnología accesible, digamos. ..... en realidad así nos definimos.....> REACTOR VIDEOFILIA es un grupo de fruición visual que explora la intervención, el sobrediseño y la re-generacion de imágenes. >> RESULTA... !!!! QUE EN MARZO vamos a dictar un taller gratuito, en un centro cultural que se llama Tato Bores, del Gob de la Ciu, que se va a llamar.. USO Y ABUSO DE LA TECNOLOGIA ACCESIBLE. y nos gustaría relacionarnos con ustedes para que nos cuenten un poco de que se trata SOLAR //// que me parece que es muy, pero muy interesante. Bueno, tal vez me excedí pero no importa.... Espero ansioso respuesta de ustedes. Muchísimas gracias y adelante el arte publico. Andres Lolo Llamosas _________________________________________________________________ MSN Amor: busca tu ½ naranja http://latam.msn.com/amor/

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Bien Venido Hernan
by Vladimir di Fiore 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

Hernan, Bien Venido a Soalr, si queres estaria bueno que te presentes saludops vlad -- Vladimir di Fiore | gpg --recv-keys --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net 753B08A8 http://ourproject.org http://www.solar.org.ar http://www.kolgados.com.ar | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." [Sir Isaac Newton] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please DON'T send me files in the non-standard, bloated .doc format that is Microsoft's secret. See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Novedades http://noticias.netsys.com.ar
by Daniel Olivera 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Novedades - http://noticias.netsys.com.ar ==================================================================== - -- Roma opta por el software libre - -- La AI demuestra cómo se puede espiar a los usuarios P2P - -- Microsoft se apodera de los DVDs ==================================================================== Novedades - http://noticias.netsys.com.ar Saludos - -- NOTA: Si desea recibir el texto completo de las noticias via correo electronico debe suscribirse a la lista noticias en el servidor de listas ubicado en http://listas.netsys.com.ar - -- - -- Mate.Cosido (..aun fuera de la ley) |-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Gentoo Linux / IPV4/IPV6 / Kernel: 2.4.24 / 2.6.3 | Analizado con Mailscanner + Clamav + Spamassassin |-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel Olivera (Mate.Cosido) ---- Linux #267582 - AR #1832 | Web IPV4: www.netsys.com.ar | Web IPV6: netsysv6.tsps2.freenet6.net / netsys.6dns.org | -- | Id gnupg: 0x889D8149 -- Servidor: pgpkeys.netsys.com.ar | Clave otorgada por PKI.GOV.AR: | https://ca.sgp.gov.ar/servlets/email/searchCert.html | -- | ICQ: 8368437 -- AIM/Yahoo: doliveralinux -- MSN : No uso | Jabber: jabber.netsys.com.ar / ususario: mate.cosido | Telefono mensajes: (011) 5093-9393 - Casilla: 857 | Telefono particular: 4207-1701 / 7688 - Cel: 5637-5979 | -- | Estudien mucho para poder dominar la tecnica que permite | dominar la naturaleza. CHE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQ2y4mUZ7u+iPzsQRAviQAJ9fOduhPg0G7SQpfdBrsBAlVx0r0wCfSAHG 83LeCIBzS20Qto/1m2LQ2+o= =Rk/h -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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BBS en gnu/Linux
by Juan Bidini 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

Hola a todos: Que aplicacion GPL para gnu/linux para hacer un BBS server me recomiendan Gracias de ante mano un abrazo Juan Bidini www.indaya.com

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Asado Noticas
by josx 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

Amigos como sabrán o al menos eso intento.... Esté domingo que viene no, el siguiente estaremos haciendo un asado aniversario por SOLAR , del cual queremos juntar algo de $$$ para la asociación. Estado actual: Hasta el día de hoy tengo 11 personas pagas. Necesidades: Para poder hacer el asado con comida debemos juntar al menos a 30 personas. Para dar el ok debo tener la lista completa y el dinero de todos los concurrentes como máximo el día Sábado 6 de Marzo, para tener todo listo para el próximo domingo. Fecha limite para entrega de $$$: 06/03/04 Asado 14/03/04 12hs (para comer a las 13hs) Puntual. (Hay una hora la llegar :) ) Tucumán 1955 Lanus este 15-5000-2671 4247-0444 4382-9533 Aclaración: El día ese no se aceptarán personas que no estén en la lista. Ya que sería una muy mala actitud como grupo permitirlo. Por favor contactense conmigo los que almenos piensan en venir asi vemos como hacemos para juntar el dinero. Espero Sinceramente que quieran venir... saludos -- josx <josx(a)interorganic.com.ar>

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Microsoft nos está absorviendo de a poco!
by Martin Andres Gomez Gimenez 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

http://200.117.41.27/fotos/?bild=82&theme=blue_matrix&index=3 :-) Saludos, -- Martin Andres Gomez Gimenez NIS e-mail: mggimenez(a)netscape.net JABBER: mggimenez(a)jabber.org ICQ: 294606465 Usuario Linux: #306000

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Re: [Solar-general] Certificaciones - Otro ladrillo en la Pared
by Gerardo B Diaz 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

>From: Daniel Olivera <daniel(a)netsys.com.ar> >Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:24:36 -0300 >Quien contrataria un genio recontracertificado, si es un asesino serial? Para verificar esto está el resto del proceso de selección, que continúa con los individuos que presumiblemente tienen los conocimientos requeridos. Gerardo Díaz _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Canada: "Make it legal: don't litigate, use creative licensing" campaign.
by Martin Olivera 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

Esto de Canadá se enlaza con el mensaje que quiero transmitir al Estado: "No acepten presiones, sean legales: migren a software libre!" Una campaña que podríamos imitar: "sea legal: use software libre" (nos acompañará la ONG Software Legal?) --- Russell McOrmond <russell(a)flora.ca> escribió: > > Fully linked (and possibly updated) version is at: > http://www.flora.ca/makelegal200403.shtml > > ---cut--- >-- 30 -- >Important Links: > >Stay Legal - Use Free Software >http://www.stay-legal.org/ > >Canadian File-sharing Legal Information Network >http://www.canfli.org/ > >Creative Commons >http://creativecommons.org > >Fading Ways Music mission statement >http://www.fadingwaysmusic.com/mission.html > >Perspective of a digital copyright reformer on past >Heritage minister >Sheila Copps, contrasting with Internet entrepreneur >Bob Young, >co-founder >of RedHat, founder of Center for the Public Domain, >and Lulu.com. >http://www.flora.ca/russell/drafts/copps-ndp.html > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > Ottawa -- March 1, 2004 -- FLORA Community > Consulting wishes to announce > the "Make it legal: don't litigate, use creative > licensing" campaign to > encourage software authors, musicians, and other > creators of works of the > mind to use Free/Libre and Open Source Software > (FLOSS) and Creative > Commons licensing. > > In March 2002, Roaring Penguin Software Inc. started > a campaign called > "Stay Legal - Use Free Software". CAAST, the > Canadian Alliance against > Software Theft, has been promoting a truce for > businesses and > organizations with improperly-licensed software. We > believe the best way > to manage improperly-licensed software is to switch > to Free/Libre and Open > Source Software (FLOSS - `free'' as in ``free > speech,'' not as in ``free > beer.'') where license maintenance is much simpler, > and there are no > per-desk, per-user or per-server obligations. > > While this campaign has been a success and many > software users have > switched to FLOSS, the current litigation by the > Canadian Recording > Industry Association (CRIA) suggest it is time to > extend this campaign to > the creator community. Incumbent content and > "software manufacturing" > industrial associations in Canada such as CRIA and > CAAST wish to place the > blame for current problems on their own customers, > and create considerable > customer relations problems by suing their own > customer base. FLORA > Community Consulting wishes all creators to > acknowledge that the source of > their problems is not lawlessness of their > customers, but their > pre-Internet era business models which make illegal > common and often quite > helpful activities of their customers which should > be royalty-free. > > In the software industry most of the largest to the > smallest software > companies have either fully or partially adopted > FLOSS licenses and > business models. The larger companies include IBM > who is a large Linux > promoter, Novell which recently bought SuSe Linux > and Ximian, Sun > Microsystems who sponsor OpenOffice.org as well as > market and support > derivative StarOffice, Apple Computer with MacOS-X > which is built on top > of their Darwin project, RedHat Linux, and more than > are possible to > count. This model is being looked at seriously and > positively by most of > the software industry, with only a few well-known > exceptions such as > Microsoft, Microsoft dependents, and Microsoft led > industry associations. > > We wish the success seen in the software marketplace > for modern > Internet-era business models to also bring success > in other creator > communities. While we strongly support the right of > creators to protect > their creative rights through copyright, including > the right to sue those > who infringe copyright, we do not believe that the > current lawsuits > launched by various intermediary industry > associations will benefit > creators. "The protection afforded in copyright is > to the creator as water > is to humans; too little and you dehydrate and die, > too much and you drown > and die. Survival requires understanding this > delicate balance", explains > Russell McOrmond of FLORA Community Consulting. > With this in mind the > first step of this new campaign was to sponsor the > Canadian File-sharing > Legal Information Network (CanFLI), now hosted for > free at FLORA.ca's ISP. > > "CanFLI is a network of technology law students and > organizations across > Canada who wish to gather and disseminate > information to help people who > are sued by the CRIA", explains Andy Kaplan-Myrth, > M.A., law student and > president of the Information Technology Law Society > at the University of > Ottawa. "We will provide FAQs and links to articles > on the status of the > law in Canada with respect to file-sharing, contact > information for > lawyers or organizations who may act for them, and > perhaps information > about how ISPs are responding". > > The next stage of this campaign will be to offer > creators some of the same > free consulting services as the "Stay Legal - Use > Free Software" campaign > did for software users. Rather than making > suggestions of what software to > use, we would investigate alternative business > models that make use of the > great opportunities of the Internet to the creators > advantage, rather than > choosing business models which make the Internet > appear as a threat. As > with the existing campaign, many creators would be > offered a free day of > consulting. > > "The Internet, and digital audio technology in > general, provide great > promotional tools", explains Neil Leyton, musician > and manager of > Toronto-based indie label Fading Ways Music. "Music > fans can be > inexpensive, often free, music promoters. We intend > on putting the > Internet to good use by no longer using the old > copyright logo on our new > releases, opting instead to display a Creative > Commons license. These > licenses are loosely based on the concept of Open > Source which the > software industry became familiar with years ago." > > The idea is simple: musicians would take the > activities which the > recording industry claim are a great threat and make > them legal. Rather > than sending your money to lawyers to sue your > customers, you shift these > activities in your business model from being > considered a lost revenue > stream to being a gained form of marketing and > promotion. Rather than > trying to make money off of the private > non-commercial communications of > your work you would leverage this new marketing to > make more money off of > other aspects of your business. > > Neil Leyton further explains, "One common > misconception about Creative > Commons licenses is that they eliminate royalty > payments to artists. With > the CC license we have chosen this is not so. Radio > play remains a > commercial activity, as they are in the business of > selling advertising. > That station, under the CC license, is still > required to pay royalties for > playing a Creative Commons song. Similarly, > mechanical licensing would > still apply with the obvious exception of the > Canadian Private Copying > levy. TV usage, commercial film usage, and all other > such uses remain > unaffected by a CC license. CC complements and > clarifies Copyright. It > does not take it away." > >There are many types of Creative Commons licenses, >some that allow >commercial communications, and some that even allow >derivative works >such >that the Internet can become a worldwide musical jam->session. While all >creative commons licenses make non-commercial >private distribution of >works royalty-free, and thus makes P2P Internet >distribution of those >works legal, the creator has many options for other >aspects of their >business. The Creative Commons concept is that >rather than being "all >rights reserved", you have "some rights reserved" >under the control of >the >creator. > >As the old industry associations like CRIA and CAAST >continue to head >to >the courts to protect their old business models and >special interests >against the interests of creators and their >audiences, it is hoped that >these creators and audiences will make important >choices to protect >their >own interests. Creators and citizens need to turn >the Internet into a >great opportunity to build better relationships >between them, and keep >everyone out of the courts. As the animations from >Creative Commons >suggests, "it can be that easy when you skip the >intermediaries." > >For more information please contact: Russell >McOrmond. >Full contact information can be found at >http://www.flora.ca/#contact ===== SOLAR Software Libre Argentina http://www.solar.org.ar ------------ Los mejores usados y las más tentadoras ofertas de 0km están en Yahoo! Autos. Comprá o vendé tu auto en http://autos.yahoo.com.ar

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IPV6
by Daniel Olivera 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Aqui encontre un mejor sitio con mas info sobre las asignaciones de direcciones V6 http://www.cs-ipv6.lancs.ac.uk/ipv6/6Bone/Whois/bycountry.html y en argentina hay varios paso la lista: ARGENTINA AWORLD: Atomic World; Avellaneda_BA, AR BARRAHOME: Barra Home The Spanish PHP Group BESOLOCO: Beso Loco, que beso loco. BOMBI-BOMBI: Bombi-Bombi, Buenos Aires, Argentina. CENTAURI-AR: Centauri, La Plata, AR COMPENDIUM-AR: Compendium, Buenos Aires, AR DIVARSITE: Sitio de experimentación FIBERTEL: Fibertel TCI Argentina GEMINIS-AR: Geminis, Buenos Aires, Argentina. GEMINIS6: Geminis IPV6 test site IPV6-CCC: Universidad de Buenos Aires- Centro de Comunicación Científica ORBISTEL: Orbistel, Córdoba, AR RETINA: Red TeleInformatica Academica UTN-FRLP: Universidad Tecnologica Nacional - Fac. Reg. La Plata, La Plata / Republica Argentina Saludos - -- Mate.Cosido (..aun fuera de la ley) |-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Gentoo Linux / IPV4/IPV6 / Kernel: 2.4.24 / 2.6.1 | Analizado con Mailscanner + Clamav + Spamassassin |-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel Olivera (Mate.Cosido) ---- Linux #267582 - AR #1832 | Web IPV4: www.netsys.com.ar | Web IPV6: netsysv6.tsps2.freenet6.net / netsys.6dns.org | -- | Id gnupg: 0x889D8149 -- Servidor: pgpkeys.netsys.com.ar | Clave otorgada por PKI.GOV.AR: | https://ca.sgp.gov.ar/servlets/email/searchCert.html | -- | ICQ: 8368437 -- AIM/Yahoo: doliveralinux -- MSN : No uso | Jabber: jabber.netsys.com.ar / ususario: mate.cosido | Telefono mensajes: (011) 5093-9393 - Casilla: 857 | Telefono particular: 4207-1701 / 7688 - Cel: 5637-5979 | -- | Estudien mucho para poder dominar la tecnica que permite | dominar la naturaleza. CHE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQx0zmUZ7u+iPzsQRAnYwAJ9Yb8su31JbPyPBUpCMc9Yba2qTeQCeLwpg GQkHzamHR92M6fJjFuM3jFU= =kynv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IPv6
by Daniel Olivera 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Buscando cosas en la red y recorriendola usando ipv6 di con un sitio donde hay registrados sitios separados por paises que estan sobre ipv6. el sitio esta en http://ipv6.loercks.net/ como argentina queda en primer lugar, en el orden alfabetico de la lista de paises ingrese en ella y con sorpresa, aunque lo sospechaba solo hay 4 sitios. De los cuales solo 2 andan. El de Retina, que contiene mucha informacion y un proyecto de trabajo que no se si existe aun. Y el de la UBA, lo cual me produjo una gran depresion descubrir que soy el visitante numero 13 de este sitio que lo accede usando ipv6 El numero 13!!! Que lindo seria revertir esto e incorporar alta tecnologia o nueva tecnologia como quiera llamarle. O sea que Netsys es el 4to servidor registrado de la argentina, aunque quedé en el grupo NET de la lista por usar un tunnel de Freenet6 de Canada. Puede que haya otros en los grupos genericos que pertenezcan a argentina paro no puedo identificarlos. Y Solar es la primera organizacion que cuenta con servicios sobre IPV6, como veran el servidor IRC de Netsys que actualmente soporta el canal #solar entre los activos opera sobre ipv4 e ipv6. Primer servicio interactivo de la argentina sobre ipv6!!. De hecho yo con mi ID (mate-cosido) estoy accediendolo con xchat usando ipv6 notaran la direccion ipv6 de mi equipo si solicitan datos del usuario. Los sitios de Retina y UBA sobre ipv6 son: www.ipv6.retina.ar www.ipv6.uba.ar Saludos - -- Mate.Cosido (..aun fuera de la ley) |-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Gentoo Linux / IPV4/IPV6 / Kernel: 2.4.24 / 2.6.1 | Analizado con Mailscanner + Clamav + Spamassassin |-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel Olivera (Mate.Cosido) ---- Linux #267582 - AR #1832 | Web IPV4: www.netsys.com.ar | Web IPV6: netsysv6.tsps2.freenet6.net / netsys.6dns.org | -- | Id gnupg: 0x889D8149 -- Servidor: pgpkeys.netsys.com.ar | Clave otorgada por PKI.GOV.AR: | https://ca.sgp.gov.ar/servlets/email/searchCert.html | -- | ICQ: 8368437 -- AIM/Yahoo: doliveralinux -- MSN : No uso | Jabber: jabber.netsys.com.ar / ususario: mate.cosido | Telefono mensajes: (011) 5093-9393 - Casilla: 857 | Telefono particular: 4207-1701 / 7688 - Cel: 5637-5979 | -- | Estudien mucho para poder dominar la tecnica que permite | dominar la naturaleza. CHE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQxm1mUZ7u+iPzsQRAkioAJ9gbUUdpOOlcLIEVJIb6c0XEsM0/wCeLq69 dAAKgJmO3QBCTpn0iQ6uXGE= =zYpa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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