June 2006 - Musix-users - lists.ourproject.org

Any good tutorial for beginner?
by julien bodd 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

Hello, I'm a beginner in pc music. I managed to get my keyboard connected through midi. Play through rosegarden. What I'm looking for is a systematic tutorial that will learn me what the applications are for, how to use them, etc.. Thank you very much.

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Re: [Musix-users] Problems with 0.49
by julien bodd 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

I thought problems were gone..but in fact they are still there..but I have more info about what happens.. It seems that the system runs into general problems (slow response time) 50% of the times I boot it. I can detect that, because those times KDE does not run at all ! It get stuck into the loading at "initializing system services". So then, I ctrl-alt-backspace and go into IceWm..But the problems are still there..I click on a terminal, or on some apps like rosegarden..and they open 5 minutes later. Other times, when I can get into KDE, then I can work with IceWm without problems too. It is very strange because it happens 50% of the time. Also, 50% of the time (but not especially the same), I cannot reboot the pc..it get stuck on "send kill signal to apps" (in spanish), or in "stopping named" (in spanish too). I'm a little disappointed..I don't know what to do (As I said earlier, md5sum is ok). I ran into a lot of problems trying to configure the keyboard layout too..I discovered that they are tons of files where you can set LANG, KEYBOARD..etc..and lots of conf apps too..In the end, it works, but with lot of effort.. It would be great if someone could help me :-) bye.

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Saving Desktop Settings?
by DCZX 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

Please, is there a way to save the desktop settings? Every time I login, I have to reset my resolutions all over again. I'm just about ready to give up on Musix from all the configuration hassles. =( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Problems with 0.49 (continued..)
by julien bodd 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

It's worst than what I thought :-) rosegarden, the only app I really need, is the one that does not work..(I looked at the tips with rm ~/...). It was working when I initially installed the system..but now, after some reboots..it doesn't want to open anymore.. I cannot manage to circle the errors.. One tip that might help.. when I just click on simple rosegarden, nothing happens.. The partition on wich musix is installed is /dev/hda3, but when I click on rosegarden+timidity for example, I get the error : Using /mnt/hda1 mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/hda1 busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /mnt/hda1 Disk /mnt/hda1 has 27348 kb of free space No tiene suficiente espacio en /mnt/hda1 para crear archivo de intercambio de memoria SWAP. Se necesitan al menos 128mb libres. Libere espacio y vuelva a ejecutar el programa, o: Ejecute crear-swap-en.sh e indique el dispositivo a utilizar como parámetro: Por ejemplo crear-swap-en.sh /mnt/hda2 . Presione [control]+[C] para abortar o presione [enter] para intentarlo en otro disco rígido I tried to run crear-swap-en.sh with param /mnt/hda3, and other partitions too..but it does not want to use them..It only wants to use /mnt/hda1 (on wich I have another debian..) I'm lost...:-)

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Re: [Musix-users] Problems with 0.49
by julien bodd 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

md5sum was ok. I ran a new installation and all went ok. For the first install I chose ext3 filesystem and for the new one reiserfs. I dont know if this could have been the problem. cheers

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Subject: Re: [Musix-users] USB Midisport (license doubt)
by Marcos Guglielmetti 24 Jun '06

24 Jun '06

From: Richard Stallman <rms(a)gnu.org> To: marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com CC: musix-users(a)lists.ourproject.org, musix-colaborad(a)lists.ourproject.org, musix-usuarios(a)lists.ourproject.org In-reply-to: <200606212319.35808.marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com> (message from Marcos Guglielmetti on Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:19:35 +0200) Subject: Re: [Musix-users] USB Midisport (license doubt) Reply-to: rms(a)gnu.org References: <200606180100.56202.marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com> <200606200131.30120.marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com> <E1FskSj-0002ID-96(a)fencepost.gnu.org> <200606212319.35808.marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com> Message-Id: <E1FtXRe-0003BC-Px(a)fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:14:38 -0400 X-ourproject-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ourproject-MailScanner-From: rms(a)gnu.org Would you like to implement, on fsf.org, a list of the USB MIDI interfaces which work with free software, and the ones that don't? We would like that. If you want to do it, please write to johns(a)gnu.org and he can accept the info from you. > Is there any chance we could convince Midiman > to change this policy? Well... we must try: If we are going to do this, the next step is to figure out who to talk to, and that person's addresses or phone numbers, and what language to talk with him in. Then we need someone who speaks that language, to call that person. Want to start? Another idea: If the non-free code is available in source code, someone could study that code, get the ideas out of it, and write a completely different program (not copying any details, of course, since those are copyrighted). This new program could be free. -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * Descarga el CD de Musix: (www.musix.org.ar) (www.pc-musica.com.ar/musix) * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode

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Problems with 0.49
by julien bodd 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

Hello guys, I've just installed Musix for the first time. I ran into a lot of problems. First of all, browsers crash for pop-up windows..they crash too sometimes when I want to download something. They always crash when I perform the download with right-click -->save target as... I initially thought it was a firefox problem, so I installed another browser (epiphany)..and I was surprised to see that the same problems appear. Second problem, the DHCP connexion seems to work 1/3 of the times at boot time. So when I log, sometimes I have to perform a card-configuration (wich performs dhcp request). Third wierd problem, when I go in the Music menu in Icewm, some apps I click don't open the first time I click..but only the second. The wierd thing is that the applications I initially clicked, open something abour 3-4 minutes later !!!! Very strange behaviour. Anyone with the same problems? Thank you very much! ++

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USB MIDI interfaces which work with free software
by Marcos Guglielmetti 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

"[M-Colab] Re: [Musix-users] USB Midisport (license doubt) De: Richard Stallman <rms(a)gnu.org> Para: marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com CC: musix-colaborad(a)lists.ourproject.org, musix-users(a)lists.ourproject.org, musix-usuarios(a)lists.ourproject.org Fecha: 23/06/06 00:14" "Would you like to implement, on fsf.org, a list of the USB MIDI interfaces which work with free software, and the ones that don't? We would like that. If you want to do it, please write to johns(a)gnu.org and he can accept the info from you." Hi John, The ALSA matrix shows many USB MIDI hardware supported by the drivers (snd-usb-audio), but for many of them the user needs non-free software firmwares (this is not showed into the ALSA matrix [4]) I dont really know about all the MIDI USB devices in the world, but I am sure about this ones from M-Audio (midiman) [1] * This USB MIDI interfaces are supported by ALSA and don't need non-free firmware: M Audio USB MidiSport Duo M Audio USB MidiSport Quatro MidiSport 2x4 [3] Newer KeyStation models (49e, 61es, Pro 88) * This USB MIDI interfaces are supported by OSS [2] and don't need non-free firmware: MidiSport 1x1 MidiSport 2x2 Also, there is a non-free package that contains non-free firmware to support other similar devices: "The project page is <http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/>. For help, discussion or feedback, send a mail to the mailing list at <usb-midi-fw-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net>.written by Clemens Ladisch <clemens(a)ladisch.de>" Supported devices with non-free firmware: - MidiSport 4x4 - MidiSport 8x8 - MidiSport Uno - Keystation (old models) - Oxygen - Radium "There is also an OSS driver by NAGANO Daisuke supporting the MidiSport 1x1/2x2 with GPL'd firmware written by Lars Dölle. [2]" Links: [1] http://www.m-audio.com/ [2] http://homepage3.nifty.com/StudioBreeze/software/usbmidi-e.html [3] http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MIDISPORT2x4-main.html http://la.m-audio.com/products/es_la/MIDISPORT2x4-main.html [4] http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix Regard, -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * Descarga el CD de Musix: (www.musix.org.ar) (www.pc-musica.com.ar/musix) * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode

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[Musix-users] USB Midiman non-free, RMS: "If we are going to do this, the next step is to figure out who to talk to..."
by Marcos Guglielmetti 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

[M-Colab] Re: [Musix-users] USB Midisport (license doubt) De: Richard Stallman <rms(a)gnu.org> Para: marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com CC: musix-colaborad(a)lists.ourproject.org, musix-users(a)lists.ourproject.org, musix-usuarios(a)lists.ourproject.org Fecha: 23/06/06 00:14 Would you like to implement, on fsf.org, a list of the USB MIDI interfaces which work with free software, and the ones that don't? We would like that. If you want to do it, please write to johns(a)gnu.org and he can accept the info from you. > Is there any chance we could convince Midiman > to change this policy? Well... we must try: If we are going to do this, the next step is to figure out who to talk to, and that person's addresses or phone numbers, and what language to talk with him in. Then we need someone who speaks that language, to call that person. Want to start? Another idea: If the non-free code is available in source code, someone could study that code, get the ideas out of it, and write a completely different program (not copying any details, of course, since those are copyrighted). This new program could be free. -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * Descarga el CD de Musix: (www.musix.org.ar) (www.pc-musica.com.ar/musix) * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode

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FW: > That is not free.
by Marcos Guglielmetti 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

De: Richard Stallman <rms(a)gnu.org> Para: marcospcmusica(a)gmail.com CC: musix-users(a)lists.ourproject.org Fecha: 20/06/06 19:56 > Please note that I have absolutely no idea what program you're talking > about, or what job it does. Your message mentions names such as > Demudi and Midisport without telling me what they are. The previous > messages are buried inside each other in a way that is very hard to > understand. > > All I understand is the following license: > > "The firmware files (*.ihx) are copyrighted by Midiman, and can be used > and redistributed only as part of this package. > > That is not free. > > > Which package includes these files? What package is "this package"? > > What is Midiman? Is there any chance we could convince Midiman > to change this policy? -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * Descarga el CD de Musix: (www.musix.org.ar) (www.pc-musica.com.ar/musix) * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode

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