[P2P-F] [commoning] Greek Vice-President explicitely endorses commons strategy before parliament

Thu Feb 12 17:35:22 CET 2015

this is the link that I received:
http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Eleftherios Kosmas <elkosmas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate
> some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic
> differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to
> convey it properly (I am not a trained translator)
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> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements"
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> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a commons
> based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter of the
> commons.
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> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list <
> p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org> wrote:
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>> understood Vasilis,
>>
>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, and
>> that the real transformative work is put on hold for when conditions are
>> right ..
>>
>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on the
>> crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer term
>> change,
>>
>> Michel
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>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Michel,
>>>
>>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find
>>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference.
>>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was what the
>>> vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George Papanikolaou's
>>> reaction in relation to my message, in which he highlights that
>>> Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south can open the way to
>>> new productive relations". In addition to this, George emphasizes that "the
>>> priority now is to stabilize the situation and give us time for
>>> experimentation".
>>>
>>> Let's see...
>>>
>>> v.
>>>
>>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is very important news:
>>>>
>>>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? especially
>>>> in english ?
>>>>
>>>> see:
>>>>
>>>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his
>>>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new bottom-up,
>>>> Commons-based productive models which will have a global orientation and
>>>> will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable development."
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at:
>>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis
>>>
>>> Senior Research Fellow
>>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance
>>>
>>> Research Director
>>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org
>>>
>>
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>> --
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>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan
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