<div dir="ltr">this is the link that I received: <a href="http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041">http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Eleftherios Kosmas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:elkosmas@gmail.com" target="_blank">elkosmas@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator)<br><br></div><div>&quot;Title: Speech during the government&#39;s policy statements&quot;<br><br></div><div>The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a commons based collective like <a href="http://hackerspace.gr" target="_blank">hackerspace.gr</a> and a strong supporter of the commons.<br><br><br><br></div><br><br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">understood Vasilis,<div><br></div><div>but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when conditions are right ..</div><div><br></div><div>so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer term change,</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kostakis.b@gmail.com" target="_blank">kostakis.b@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michel,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George Papanikolaou&#39;s reaction in relation to my message, in which he highlights that Dragasakis&#39;s basic idea was that &quot;the european south can open the way to new productive relations&quot;. In addition to this, George emphasizes that &quot;the priority now is to stabilize the situation and give us time for experimentation&quot;.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Let&#39;s see...<br><br>v.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This is very important news:<div><br></div><div>perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? especially in english ?</div><div><br></div><div>see:</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Dragasakis&#39;s (vice-president of the government) finale during his speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global orientation and will fuel Greece&#39;s post-crisis sustainable development.&quot;</span><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><img src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan" target="_blank">http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan</a> </div><div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>  - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.face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