[P2P-F] ows as peer production

Thu Nov 24 07:14:42 CET 2011

this is probably true martin, that there is continuation with alt.global,
yet, there are also differences I think, it's a substantial remix,

the way I see it (and ht to jose ramos for point to ariel salleh's work),
there are 3 working classes nowadays,

the meta-industrial class of the south (salleh)

the traditional industrial working class (now also mostly in the emerging
south)

the knowledge workers, and I think ows reflects them  ...

we need social movements of all three, but because of the strategic place
of knowledge workers in the current mode of production, they are at a
crucial nexus of power and influence; they are also the probable vehicles,
I think, the speed up the adoption of peer production by the
meta-industrials, allowing them leapfrogging capabilities ...

I'm not so clear about what it all means for the traditional working
classes,

perhaps Orsan has a view?

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:19 AM, mp <mp at aktivix.org> wrote:

>
> when put like this, one really and clearly sees the continuum with
> alter-globalisation events, from counter-summit camps through No Border
> camps, and even before that: the free party scene, the rave scene,
> Reclaim the Streets etc. (all the way back into the age of camping
> hundreds of years ago): claiming a space, reorganising it and building a
> new world.
>
> the events and organisational approaches of OWS are very similar and
> obviously come in extension of those experiences of globalisation
> protests - and in many cases, there are old familiar faces at play.
>
> the only thing that has changed, as far as i can tell, is that the
> problems revealed and analysed previously have now found resonance with
> more people in the rich part of the world, because suddenly suffering
> has come home to roost (when it was predominantly children of colour in
> exotic countries, people were happy to buy a Save the Children badge to
> patch their conscience).
>
> m
>
> On 23/11/11 18:17, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > in response to another letter:
> >
> > I think ows produces a political commons and does that pretty much in a
> > standard peer production way,
> >
> > they have a commons, zuccoti park,
> >
> > they have the general assembly and different substructures, but which do
> > not command and control the movement,
> >
> > for example, the finance working group, which looks for money,
> >
> > they have sophisticated provisioning systems
> >
> > the last three are equivalent to the for-benefit associations in open
> > source,
> >
> > finally, they have an enterpreneurial coalition, such as the ows street
> > vendor association,
> >
> > I have documented this through
> > http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:OccupyWallStreet, in detail,
> >
> > so,
> >
> > ows produces 'politics', and it has governance,
> >
> > it has no clear property, but the commons aspect, i.e. it can be used and
> > remixed, would cover that
> >
> > this is quite illuminating,
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Occupy_Wall_Street_API
> >
> >
> >
> >
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