[P2P-F] [Open Manufacturing] Source Control - Freedom through Sharing The Open Factory - an Open Hardware factory in an Irish Ecovillage.

Tue Jul 19 05:08:24 CEST 2011

I know dozens of people who get paid good money to configure and deploy
free/libre/opensource software.  The more powerful the tools, the more value
a laborer can create, the higher the wage they can demand.  Am I missing
something?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Atrus <atrus6 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As you said Bryan, some is still paying. If you need a project done, and
> you don't have the skills for it, you must pay someone else, or convince
> someone to give their time. In addition to that, there is open source
> software that pays.
>
> Start up costs are also a lot lower. The only real cost is your time, there
> is no specialized equipment needed, that costs money. This is not the same
> for DiyBio, RepRap or other projects. It's more affordable to program in
> your spare time. As a child, programming was the only avenue that I had,
> because I had no money. I just had to go to the library, and read a book and
> type on a computer.
>
> There still needs to be a flow of money with more physical projects. You
> need labor to build it, labor to maintain it, and constant material to feed
> it. A single open sourced machine will not "put maximum competition and
> minimum wages", because there are a billion different fields that will pick
> up the displaced labor.
>
> Tim Butram
> http://www.worldsproject.org
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>> > Do you agree this is already what we see in Free Software:
>> > that wages are approaching zero (much work done gratis)?
>>
>> The wages aren't approaching zero; rather, programmers subsidize their
>> own time with their own money. Some is still paying.
>>
>> - Bryan
>> http://heybryan.org/
>> 1 512 203 0507
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