I know dozens of people who get paid good money to configure and deploy free/libre/opensource software. The more powerful the tools, the more value a laborer can create, the higher the wage they can demand. Am I missing something?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Atrus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atrus6@gmail.com">atrus6@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
As you said Bryan, some is still paying. If you need a project done, and you don't have the skills for it, you must pay someone else, or convince someone to give their time. In addition to that, there is open source software that pays.<div>
<br></div><div>Start up costs are also a lot lower. The only real cost is your time, there is no specialized equipment needed, that costs money. This is not the same for DiyBio, RepRap or other projects. It's more affordable to program in your spare time. As a child, programming was the only avenue that I had, because I had no money. I just had to go to the library, and read a book and type on a computer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There still needs to be a flow of money with more physical projects. You need labor to build it, labor to maintain it, and constant material to feed it. A single open sourced machine will not "put maximum competition and minimum wages", because there are a billion different fields that will pick up the displaced labor.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Bryan Bishop <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kanzure@gmail.com" target="_blank">kanzure@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote:<br>
> Do you agree this is already what we see in Free Software:<br>
> that wages are approaching zero (much work done gratis)?<br>
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</div>The wages aren't approaching zero; rather, programmers subsidize their<br>
own time with their own money. Some is still paying.<br>
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