[P2P-F] Infinite Growth is Goal when Profit is Treated as Reward

[Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis]

Patrick, in both cases i presented, consumers have ownership of the company
from the beginning till the end. What I mean by that is that only consumers
and workers decide how to produce things.

Profit is given to the creditors due to the fact that they had money when
you needed them.

in essence, It is as if we accept profit all together, with one important
difference though.

Today, since it is not consumers - workers that decide, companies spend
millions for advertisements. They create bad quality products and try to
hide the truth from the public. they have hazardous working condtions etc.

Another thing.. I have almost finished the math behind the simulation of
such a network. Then I ll need to program  the simulation. Then we could
ask the program what the effects of the rules we might pose, have on the
network..


2011/12/9 Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>

> Apostolis wrote:
> > Should we then put a rule that will disallow them to
> > give profit to some which might be hamfull in the
> > health of this network of companies in the future,
> > when accepting to give some profit to them is also
> > profitable for the consumers in the short term?
>
> I have thought about this problem and imagined it
> might be ok to allow Venture Capitalists to invest,
> paying them some % of the Profit.
>
> The crucial point is that *some* % of the Profit be
> treated as Payer Investment, for otherwise those late
> users will never gain the co-ownership needed to crawl
> out of subjugation.
>
> You can read my attempt at explaining this here:
> http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com/2011/09/burn-ring-funding-model.html
>
> I call it "Burn Ring" because the VC's ability to collect
> Profit from Payers will incrementally "burn-out" as those
> Payers gain ownership, and so will leave a wake of very
> high production that undercuts all Capitalist endeavors -
> since the co-owners who have sufficient ownership will
> be receiving Product at Cost, and so will never be tempted
> to buy from those who must sell at a Price above Cost.
>
> Profit will continue to flow to the VCs for as long as new
> Consumers are found who do not yet have sufficient
> ownership.  I think this will be a very attractive investment
> because of the stability of the 'core' created by all the
> co-owners with sufficient ownership.
>
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Sincerely yours,

     Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
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