[PeDAGoG] Next Online Discussion in Feb 2022
UPAMANYU DAS .
upamanyu.das18_dev at apu.edu.in
Wed Feb 16 11:58:09 CET 2022
Also attaching the Ethics document for PeDAGoG put together by Working
Group 5 for everyone's viewing.
best,
Upamanyu
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 4:25 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <
upamanyu.das18_dev at apu.edu.in> wrote:
>
> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
>
> Here is the link to the recording of yesterday's meeting:
> https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/bImQGk9yi6GmkudVyLwb66_AF4VTPo9Jr22Glt130a-WnRmE-BRqgUjCgUOSnkJc.tjy4JPgzlW_HphxI
>
> Also attached are the minutes of the meeting. Please take a look at some
> of the new ideas that have come up during the meeting, and let us know if
> you'd like to volunteer.
>
> *PeDAGoG Meeting - 15th Feb 2022 *
>
>
> *Attendees:* Ashish Kothari, Vasna Ramasar, Upamanyu Das, Massimo de
> Marchi, Pallavi Patil, Sujit Sinha, Melanie Bush, Christian Stalberg,
> Laurence Davis, Adrian Schlegel, Elizabeth Rahman, Irene Sotiropoulou,
> Kaustubh Rau
>
>
> PeDAGoG member list:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sY1zrrRvYYh0l-6qCmRjQJwKun4BJMOH7jRJ7XK2huI/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
> *Meeting notes:*
>
>
>
> - Pallavi: On the question of PeDAGoG expanding, there are many people
> interested in the network. This is especially as courses on sustainability
> and environment are also becoming more important, so we can tap into these
> groups further.
> - Melanie and Vasna: It might be helpful to create a ‘moment/event’
> that brings people in the network together to help with identity formation.
>
>
> *Update on Working Group 1 on creating a repository of online materials*
>
> - For the purposes of creating an initial repository, the RED website
> ( https://radicalecologicaldemocracy.org) will host material from
> PeDAGoG.
> - John Foran, Sujit Sinha and Adrian Schlegel are working on this
> activity. They are going though the different kinds of materials that are
> to be uploaded and looking at ways to organise them. It might possibly take
> another month or so for the uploading to begin. The WG is looking forward
> to suggestions and volunteers.
>
>
> *Update on Working Group 2 on inward-facing events*
>
> - We can make plans to host programmes/webinars where we can learn
> about each other's approaches in depth. *(more on this in Comments)*
>
>
> *Update on Working Group 5 on an ethics document*
>
> - Ethics document has been prepared and sent out by Angging Aban to
> the group. It will be uploaded on the RED website as part of the write-up
> on PeDAGoG.
>
>
> *Comments*
>
> - Laurence: The online repository will be a really useful resource. It
> will help students to move beyond ‘theory’ and towards witnessing
> real-world practices. Alternatives mapping is another extremely useful area
> of interest. We should also look at strengthening ties with networks and
> other groups that are doing similar work. A collective discussion on
> ‘pedagogy’ is also required, especially for institutionalised educators to
> break out of their pedagogic ‘ruts’ and core assumptions that tend to
> dominate the discourse of education.
> - Sujit: One of the courses we taught was around education through
> hands-on work, which was also an idea of Gandhi. Pallavi is working on a
> project trying to locate such similar pedagogic practices from around the
> world. The repository we are collecting (as part of WG1) will also help in
> educating in different ways, helping more diverse groups access such
> pedagogic materials.
> - Massimo: It is important to maintain the network and share our
> experiences, as well as optimise the participation within the network.
> There is also a need for putting together resources which should be used
> for highlighting (grassroots) stories alongside our pedagogic materials.
> Sharing our common goods, time, stories, visions, and experiences is very
> important.
> - Vasna: We should look at ways to overlap and collaborate with other
> networks, such as Ecoversities.
> - Elizabeth: Knowledge exchange is a process that we have been working
> on so we have some experience with that. Alongside sharing of knowledge, we
> also want to see some grounding actions. Thinking about how to use our time
> to achieve some of these goals and also have a larger impact will be
> important.
> - Ashish: On the mapping process, GTA has been working on an open
> sourced Mapping software to map alternative networks and practices. While
> it won’t document all alternatives processes across the world (as that
> would be impossible), it will cover many important grassroots practices,
> organisations etc. The Map will allow for anyone to add to it, so we can
> have a subsection on alternative pedagogy-based mapping which PeDAGoG
> members can lead.
> - Elizabeth: As part of the Centre for Teaching and Learning, we are
> planning to work on a series of open talks on radical pedagogy. We can see
> how to include PeDAGoG in that process.
> - Christian: I’m interested in the idea of radical pedagogy, with
> time, I would also look to contribute.
> - Sujit: Audio-video material is also important, as mentioned by
> members here. The problem is that there is a huge amount of such material,
> and we need to put together small write-ups for these materials for better
> organisation and ease of access.
> - Ashish: We can look at internship opportunities for support as well.
> - Pallavi: On the question of knowledge sharing, we can possibly try
> one event for inward-facing sharing, and we can then look at whether we
> would like to have more such inward-facing events, or public events.
> - Elizabeth: It might help now to figure out some initial ideas for
> speakers for the sharing sessions. Suggestions include Christian, and Sujit
> and Pallavi.
> - Laurence: To avoid the problem of the same people always presenting,
> we can send an open invitation on the PeDAGoG list if anyone would like to
> share their work.
> - Ashish: We can also look at groups and communities outside our
> networks as well, such as the Kurdish Rojava movement or Zapatistas.
>
>
> *Ideas to work on:*
>
> - Series of webinars/knowledge sharing among the participants -
> Elizabeth, Pallavi, Christian
> - A global mapping of alternative learning and education
> practices/networks (as part of the GTA Mapping process)
> - Using ‘events’ to highlight the work of PeDAGoG and alternative
> pedagogies.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:31 PM Ashish Kothari <ashishkothari at riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear PeDAGoGians, we start in 5 minutes, do join if you can,
>>
>> ashish
>> On 15/02/22 3:22 pm, UPAMANYU DAS . wrote:
>>
>> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
>>
>> A gentle reminder that we are meeting today at 3 PM GMT.
>> Here is the zoom link for joining the session:
>> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/6717720473
>>
>> best,
>> Upamanyu
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 5:15 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <
>> upamanyu.das18_dev at apu.edu.in> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
>>>
>>> A gentle reminder that our next meeting is on 15th Feb at 3-5 PM GMT.
>>>
>>> Here is the link for joining: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/6717720473
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Upamanyu
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 5:00 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <
>>> upamanyu.das18_dev at apu.edu.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> There was a slight mistake in my previous email -- the next meeting is
>>>> to be held on *15th Feb* at *3-5 PM GMT* (*not GST*). Apologies for
>>>> the confusion. I will send across a link for the meeting soon.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Upamanyu
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 4:33 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <
>>>> upamanyu.das18_dev at apu.edu.in> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> Our next PeDAGoG meet is scheduled to be held on 15th Feb at 3-5 PM
>>>>> GST. We will send across a link for same soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Upamanyu (GTA)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 7:32 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <
>>>>> upamanyu.das18_dev at apu.edu.in> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope you're all well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are planning to host our next meeting in mid-February. Please find
>>>>>> below a Doodle Poll for everyone to indicate their availability, Do fill it
>>>>>> in *before 31st Jan *so we can finalise the date:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/qh4daremvf7kdt6d?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The broad agenda of the meeting is to continue with updates from the
>>>>>> different working groups, including ways forward. Please feel free to
>>>>>> suggest additional discussion points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see the email chain below to find the minutes of the
>>>>>> previous meetings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>> Upamanyu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:57 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <
>>>>>> upamanyu.das18_dev at apu.edu.in> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Below are the minutes of the meeting held yesterday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those who couldn't attend, please read through the next steps
>>>>>>> charted out by the various working groups and feel free to volunteer
>>>>>>> wherever you can help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - *Check ins*
>>>>>>> - Angging: from UPCIDS Alt Dev team
>>>>>>> - Adrian Schegel: Masters student from Germany working on
>>>>>>> post-colonial studies
>>>>>>> - Sujit Sinha: Ex-professor, living utopian, writing and
>>>>>>> translating texts into Bengali for grassroots movements as well as working
>>>>>>> on audio visual materials.
>>>>>>> - Renata Amorim: Phd student from Brazil, working with
>>>>>>> grassroots movements, connected with the eco village network, looking to
>>>>>>> find ways to engage and collaborate with the group.
>>>>>>> - Irene: Researcher in non-capitalist ecologically sustainable
>>>>>>> economics
>>>>>>> - Sonali Sathaye: Freelance educator. Alternative education
>>>>>>> linked to alternative economics is an area of interest. Working on a course
>>>>>>> on Climate Change for school students.
>>>>>>> - Rama Mohana: Faculty at IIM Ahmedabad, part of this group
>>>>>>> largely to learn about alternative education and contribute where possible.
>>>>>>> - Ashish: works with Kalpariksh, Vikalp Sangam, Global Tapestry
>>>>>>> of Alternatives.
>>>>>>> - Upamanyu: KV, VS, GTA
>>>>>>> - Vasna: Lund University, Sweden, GTA Core, WOmin
>>>>>>> - Arvin: UPCIDS Alt Dev, Community organiser in urban poor
>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Updates from working groups Working Group 1: Pedagogic and
>>>>>>> knowledge sharing to build and strengthen repositories of materials*
>>>>>>> - The group made a list of the kind of materials people tend to
>>>>>>> share on Pedagog. The next question is where to save the materials.
>>>>>>> - One option is to use the GTA platform.
>>>>>>> - Start an independent website
>>>>>>> - Shared cloud drive
>>>>>>> - Funds are required, a coordinator is necessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Comments *
>>>>>>> - Ashish: Easy access is the question. A quick call over the
>>>>>>> next couple of weeks can help in moving forward. Franco (GTA), Pallav (RED)
>>>>>>> can help. Flarum is another possibility.
>>>>>>> - Ashish: Another question is whether the space would be passive
>>>>>>> or interactive. Would it also require an internal and external section?
>>>>>>> - Upamanyu: Moodle is an option to look into—free open source
>>>>>>> learning management system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Working Group 2: Research collaborations and action research *
>>>>>>> - A database about the members could be a starting
>>>>>>> point/referral point to further collaborations. A Google form can be sent
>>>>>>> out to the group.
>>>>>>> - Melanie Bush can help in this group with processing the data
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Comments*
>>>>>>> - Sonali: Finding out what everyone is doing on the network
>>>>>>> could be quite overwhelming. It would be nice to have a framework to
>>>>>>> process that information.
>>>>>>> - Ashish: This would be very valuable. A questionnaire should go
>>>>>>> out soon. In order to put the information within a framework, we can create
>>>>>>> drop down menus (MCQs).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Working Group 3: Co-organization of events (inward-facing)*
>>>>>>> - Along similar lines to Group 2, and there is more
>>>>>>> work/thinking required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Working Group 5: Collective Values and Principles of the
>>>>>>> PeDAGoG network*
>>>>>>> - Following document has been worked upon:
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17XEzP8uyXYlbMS_RF9tJ7GOB-M1MpOhs/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=111534508705890427151&rtpof=true&sd=true
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Comments*
>>>>>>> - Sujit: Many people in this group are part of institutions
>>>>>>> which might not be in line with PEDAGOG’s ethics.
>>>>>>> - Vasna: Many of us are restricted by our institutions, but it
>>>>>>> is important to have these explicit guiding principles within these
>>>>>>> alternative spaces.
>>>>>>> - Ashish: Agreeing with Vasna, as one of the reasons behind
>>>>>>> PEDAGOG was to create an aspirational space, to subtly push and learn from
>>>>>>> each other. These ethics can be a guide to what could be.
>>>>>>> - Rama: These ethics can be a reference while critiquing the
>>>>>>> institutional constraints faced by many of us.
>>>>>>> - Ashish: the group can also play the role of advocacy such as
>>>>>>> with statements of solidarity.
>>>>>>> - Sonali: On Ashish’s point of solidarity, it can be
>>>>>>> hypocritical to advocate for anti-capitalist ideas while having comfortable
>>>>>>> jobs. This network can play a role in promoting alternative livelihoods and
>>>>>>> real alternatives.
>>>>>>> - Ashish: PEDAGOG is also supposed to challenge our
>>>>>>> ‘comfortable’ notions, such as finding a balance between lack of
>>>>>>> remuneration, following our interests, and well-paying jobs.
>>>>>>> - Irene: There is an imbalance of contributions within this
>>>>>>> group, there may be a need to push people further and become more strict
>>>>>>> with the members who don't contribute.
>>>>>>> - Ashish: Agreeing with the point made by Irene, one view can be
>>>>>>> to look at the network as a long term project instead of a short term
>>>>>>> project. There is progress being made by some working groups.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Moving Forward*
>>>>>>> - *Group 1* will look to hold a meeting in the coming month.
>>>>>>> Call for volunteers to be sent out to the larger group for help. Ashish
>>>>>>> will try to loop Franco and Pallav in.
>>>>>>> - *Group 2* is working on a questionnaire for members, Melanie
>>>>>>> will also assist the group.
>>>>>>> - *Group 5* has already put together the ethics framework.
>>>>>>> Another attempt can be made to send it out for comments. If there are no
>>>>>>> comments, then we can accept this as a final document for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Next Meeting:* 1,2,4,5,6 Feb as possible next dates. Upamanyu will
>>>>>>> send out a Doodle Poll soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Ashish Kothari <
>>>>>>> ashishkothari at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues, a gentle reminder about today's meeting
>>>>>>>> ... do join if you can! See agenda and link below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If anyone would like to moderate this, pl. do volunteer ... you can
>>>>>>>> write back to me, not full list,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ashish
>>>>>>>> On 27/11/21 5:43 pm, Upamanyu Das wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope you're all doing well!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We will be hosting the next online discussion of the PeGAGoG group
>>>>>>>> on 16th Dec 2021 at 2 PM GMT.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The broad agenda of the discussion is as follows:
>>>>>>>> 1. Check-ins
>>>>>>>> 2. Update by the working groups - including follow up
>>>>>>>> actions/support required by the groups
>>>>>>>> 3. Plans for the upcoming year - including a discussion on how to
>>>>>>>> make the group more active
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the link for the meeting:
>>>>>>>> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2598651679
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This will be a follow-up on the meeting held in June this year. You
>>>>>>>> can access the key points from the previous meeting here:
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4p8-Lf6CDDIxyzs8Jc5xx6mb3fB3bSDYsYPbZmJSK8/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lastly, it would be nice if the different working groups formed in
>>>>>>>> the previous meet could provide a short report of their progress to the
>>>>>>>> larger group before the meeting (particularly the working groups on
>>>>>>>> research possibilities and inward-facing events), though we will explore
>>>>>>>> this further during the meeting itself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing you all there!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Upamanyu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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