[P2P-F] Reflections on Trump, and the role of the commons as an alternative

Wed Feb 8 15:56:25 CET 2017

hi george,

yes , that would certainly be useful, but to be honest, I'm not sure that
either I or my colleagues have the time and space to add another medium to
our work, about from commons transition dot org ...

if you were to launch something, I'd be happy to feed it with pointers and
occasional editorials and such,

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:30 PM, George Pór <george.por at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michel,
>
> Fully agree.
> Let's see what responses your Theses on Trump will get.
>
> Wouldn't it be useful to have a new publication focused on supporting the
> work with "younger staffers, working with think thanks, organizing
> workshops with people in political movements that are open to commons ideas
> ..."?
>
> george
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
> wrote:
>
>> dear George,
>>
>> yes, I agree with you, we have to operate at both these levels, and I'm
>> guessing the grassroots level dialogues are already happening,
>>
>> but changing the thinking of people who have been working with one
>> particular paradigm  all their lives is much more difficult, if not almost
>> impossible <g>, so I would suggest working through younger staffers,
>> working with think thanks, organizing workshops with people in political
>> movements that are open to commons ideas ...
>>
>> personally, I am also very happy with the progress of the Assemblies of
>> the Commons in France, though most are not focusing on this political work,
>> but they are in dialogue with municipal officials for their projects; and
>> initiatives like the Commons Transition Coalition in Melbourne. The work of
>> the European Commons Assembly which continues and develops after the
>> meeting, is also heartening, and simliar initiatives are under way in
>> germany, finland and the netherlands I heard
>>
>> I think a good question to ask is: what do they need that is related and
>> compatible with the commons approach, and is there any way that we can
>> assist them, so that goodwill and dialogue become possible,
>>
>> the UK is a bit of an outlier no, more like the USA than Europe ? apart
>> from open and platform coops, I'm not hearing much that is specifically
>> commons oriented  ? Glad to be proven wrong though <g>
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
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>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:30:22 +0000
>> From: George Pór <george at community-intelligence.com>
>> To: P2P Foundation mailing list <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>
>> Cc: commonswatch at lists.p2pfoundation.net, Anna Betz
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>> commons
>>         as an alternative
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>> hi Michel,
>>
>> Huge thank you for the clear and a concise articulation of what I've been
>> thinking in the last few weeks!
>>
>> > The p2p/commons approach has a crucial role to play in making the
>> Sanders
>> coalition more realistic, by offering new strategies for
>> re-industrialization which are not based on going back to the old models,
>> but on going forward towards a cosmo-local model of production, which
>> offers solutions not just for the US workers, but for the populations of
>> the world, and through its stress on mutualization and the commons, has
>> solutions for the ecological and climate crisis.
>>
>> The question I hold is, how can we most effectively play that role?
>> Isn't it by opening dialogues, both at the thought leadership and the
>> grassroots levels?
>>
>> *solidarity!*
>>
>> george
>> --
>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at:
>> http://commonstransition.org
>>
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>

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