[P2P-F] [commoning] support appreciated for Plan C, a commons transition plan for greek civil movements

Wed Jul 15 13:50:51 CEST 2015

personally, I believe that extractive models are inappropriate for the
survival of our planet, and I would like to see corporate reform towards
generative models,

this would suggest a double strategy:

* direct support for not-for-profit entities that directly co-produce
commons and integrate negative externalities

* corporate reforms that limit the damage of negative externalities at
for-profit corporations

Move towards commoning in extractive corporations is a progress, to the
degree they can also affect the extractive purpose, but if they only serve
intensified extraction, that would be problematic,

Michel

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM, George Pór <george.por at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michel, would that be that there's no room for-profits in the Plan C or,
> more broadly,  in the Commons Transitions? I doubt that that's what you
> meant,
>
> But if there's, wouldn't help if workers there too learn working without
> bosses?
>
> george
>
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> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net
> > wrote:
>
>> agreed, buurtzorg is different than a classic forprofit entity (with
>> extractive I mean that, not mining <g>)
>>
>> please go head by asking James,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:04 PM, George Pór <george.por at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hi Michel,
>>>
>>>
>>>> i have not read the book but my impression is that it is exclusively
>>>> focused on entities that have extractive practices ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure.
>>>
>>> Most of them have nothing to do the extensive extraction of natural
>>> resources, unless we include all organizations, who are using products or
>>> services whose the ingredients were ultimately extracted from the Earth,
>>> after a long chain of of intermediate companies
>>>
>>> For example. the book features a Buurtzorg, a self-managed community
>>> nursing organizations in the Netherlands. It's worth a read.
>>>
>>> Btw, the "Plan C for Advancing the Commons Transition in Greece" seems
>>> to be more important and urgent than ever, given the vacuum that rift
>>> <http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33531845> in the "institutions' may
>>> deepen.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't we ask Quilligan to give Plan C a hand?
>>>
>>> george
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at:
>> http://commonstransition.org
>>
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