[P2P-F] not one woman in Syriza govt

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The minister is male and the two deputy ministers female.

v.

On 5 February 2015 at 11:01, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
wrote:

> thanks for the confirmation, what about the ministry of labor, rana
> something ?
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Vasilis Kostakis <kostakis.b at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> In the current Greek government there are 6 on ministerial positions + 1
>> (the president of the parliament) women; however, none is a minister (Greek
>> government consists of ministers, viceministers and deputy ministers).
>>
>> Vasilis
>>
>> On 5 February 2015 at 08:32, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was informed the minister of labor was a woman, am I wrong ?
>>>
>>> I copy a greek friend for confirmation,
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
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>>>
>>> So well said, Anna and the critical, consistently missed point.  This is
>>> either what is consciously and thus far more easily done, or unconsciously
>>> resisted and replayed with the same destructive underlying constructs that
>>> defeated it the first time and every other time we were told to "wait"
>>> until things were stable, to do this kind of inclusive consciousness,
>>> deep-real-change work "then".
>>>
>>> So in February 2015, we all celebrate a supposedly true and viable
>>> long-hoped-for, essential political-economic change from a leftist/Commons
>>> perspective (and that's what I truly am hoping it is, too), but there is
>>> not one single woman, not one, in Syriza's new cabinet.  100% male
>>> leadership!
>>>
>>> "but changing the general culture of society and social movements is a
>>> long and arduous road, taking generations ..."
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not just glacial movement, Michel it's backwards.  And even more,
>>> a bright red flag about underlying potentially damning constructs that not
>>> only alienate so many of us, but worry us because we already know these
>>> often are the poisonous seeds of the later failures to achieve any of these
>>> ambitious dreams, as they have been so many times before.
>>>
>>> E.F. Schumacher was absolutely right -- it takes "whole" systems change
>>> not partial "bits and pieces change" that ultimately, change little.  And
>>> understanding what that means, preparing others to understand how important
>>> these issues are to that "whole", actually makes those changes easier, not
>>> harder.  Because including all in the "Commons" when trying to transition
>>> to any such reality, only makes "commons sense".
>>>
>>> Not one woman.  That's a hard one to explain...
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at:
>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis
>>
>> Senior Research Fellow
>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance
>>
>> Research Director
>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at:
> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan
>
> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
>
> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates:
> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>
> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/
>



-- 
Dr. Vasilis Kostakis

Senior Research Fellow
Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance

Research Director
P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org
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