<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The minister is male and the two deputy ministers female.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">v.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 February 2015 at 11:01, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">thanks for the confirmation, what about the ministry of labor, rana something ?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Vasilis Kostakis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kostakis.b@gmail.com" target="_blank">kostakis.b@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Dear all,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">In the current Greek government there are 6 on ministerial positions + 1 (the president of the parliament) women; however, none is a minister (Greek government consists of ministers, viceministers and deputy ministers).<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Vasilis<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 February 2015 at 08:32, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I was informed the minister of labor was a woman, am I wrong ?</div><div><br></div><div>I copy a greek friend for confirmation,</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div><div><br></div><<<span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Message: 1</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 04:25:45 -0800</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">From: P2P Foundation mailing list</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">� � � � <</span><a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">></span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: [Networkedlabour] Another Politics - After</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">� � � � Syriza</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">To: "</span><a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">"</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">� � � � <</span><a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">>,</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">� � � � "</span><a href="mailto:networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">"</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">� � � � <</span><a href="mailto:networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">></span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Message-ID:</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">� � � � <</span><a href="mailto:1422966345.79118.YahooMailNeo@web184704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">1422966345.79118.YahooMailNeo@web184704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com</a><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">></span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">So well said, Anna and the critical, consistently missed point.� This is either what is consciously and thus far more easily done, or unconsciously resisted and replayed with the same destructive underlying constructs that defeated it the first time and every other time we were told to "wait" until things were stable, to do this kind of inclusive consciousness, deep-real-change work "then".</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">So in February 2015, we all celebrate a supposedly true and viable long-hoped-for, essential political-economic change from a leftist/Commons perspective (and that's what I truly am hoping it is, too), but there is not one single woman, not one, in Syriza's new cabinet.� 100% male leadership!</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">"but changing the general culture of society and social movements is a long and arduous road, taking generations ..."</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">That's not just glacial movement, Michel it's backwards.� And even more, a bright red flag about underlying potentially damning constructs that not only alienate so many of us, but worry us because we already know these often are the poisonous seeds of the later failures to achieve any of these ambitious dreams, as they have been so many times before.</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">E.F. Schumacher was absolutely right -- it takes "whole" systems change not partial "bits and pieces change" that ultimately, change little.� And understanding what that means, preparing others to understand how important these issues are to that "whole", actually makes those changes easier, not harder.� Because including all in the "Commons" when trying to transition to any such reality, only makes "commons sense".</span><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Not one woman.� That's a hard one to explain...</span><span><font color="#888888"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at:�<a href="http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan" target="_blank">http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan</a>�</div><div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>� - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br><br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div></div>
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