[P2P-F] [Networkedlabour] Transnational and P2P Commons Transitions

Sun Aug 3 16:07:37 CEST 2014

great Orsan,we'll talk soon about cooperation around commons politics I
hope,

Michel

On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Orsan Senalp <orsan1234 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with both you Brian and Michel about the historic chance rising.
> At the same time, the developments like Gaza and Ukraine are closely linked
> to tightening fronts between Brics on the one hand and the Old West on the
> other, and this negative developments (crisis) is dialectically tied to
> positive things (opportunist): as productive networks and lessons learned
> coming together creating accelerating synergy. Grassroots projects,
> activists, hackers, workers, farmers, interlocking nodes,.. Of course not
> smooth and easy at all, painful repeat of past mistakes, personality
> faults, communication problems, infiltration and sabotages.. But if there
> is a sincere open p2p dialogue, self reflection and open learning we can
> create something impressive and unexpected.
>
> I think the growing exchange on the new semi-periphery is quite
> interesting especially reading together with David Harvey's New
> Imperialism, Kees van der Pijl's Global Rivalries, William Robinson-Jerry
> Harris' global capitalism
> Arguments and William Carroll's book 'the making of the transnational
> capitalist class'. To know the enemy better and see its weakness and
> strengths, but also it help us to evaluate our selves and our alliances.
>
> The CiC text and collaboration is intriguing Michel, really liked it. I
> just realized that towards the labour world, or unions transformation I
> have also been developing a similar quantum strategy: while supporting
> change agents in established unions with as positive as possible input, I
> thought the real push needs to come from outside the unions; as it happened
> before, success of IWW was the external push on craft unions to renew them
> selves.
> So what I see great in your and p2p f's approach and strategy is not one
> dimensional, so not statist (based only on the partner state) but praxis
> outside and beyond the state as well.
>
> In this context, we have some further steps taken in the design of Sayus
> project: fusing GNUnion in one project concept, working semi-intensely on
> we page: saysus.net
> And registered the project to CIC's amazing CoopFunding initiative:
> http://www.coopfunding.net/en/
>
> Best, Orsan
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On 03 Aug 2014, at 10:53, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>
> agreed Brian,
>
> a imperfect analysis that I wrote a few years ago and that jibes with the
> K-wave timing, http://p2pfoundation.net/Russia_and_the_Next_Long_Wave
>
> my opinion is that the midwave crisis point (to be compared to 1973-74 in
> the last one) of the next k-wave, is when the huge opportunity will arise,
> and in the meantime we have to maximalize the conditions (even if it
> weren't to happen and we have to survive in something much worse than
> capitalism)
>
> here is the as yet unpublished text of our strategic agreement with the
> Catalan Integral Cooperative, after a previous accord with the post-growth
> alliance, we welcome other players to join these huge but necessary efforts:
>
> Towards a first stateless commons transition plan: a partnership of P2P-F
> with the Catalan Integral Cooperative
> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/towards-a-first-stateless-commons-transition-plan-a-partnership-of-p2p-f-with-the-catalan-integral-cooperative/2014/08/06>
> [image: photo of Michel Bauwens]
>
> Michel Bauwens
> 6th August 2014
>
>
> *The General Assembly of the Catalan Integral Cooperative has confirmed a
> proposed partnership with the P2P Foundation.*
>
> This is an important development for several reasons.
>
> First, the Catalan Integral Cooperative is the first new type of
> cooperative that is entirely in line with the idea for a new type of coops
> engaged in the co-production of the commons, and, after themselves already
> embodying these ideas before we formulated them in our recent appeal
> <http://p2pfoundation.net/Why_We_Need_a_New_Kind_of_Open_Cooperativism_for_the_P2P_Age>,
> they are committed to continue and pioneer the path of open cooperativism.
>
> Second, the CIC fully endorses the Commons Transition Plan
> <http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan> that was formulated in
> connection with the floksociety.org project in Ecuador. The FLOK
> experience was important in that it was a historical first for such ideas
> to be endorsed at a nation-state level, but also because that cooperation
> with a government brings its own type of challenges
> <http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOK_Society_Project#Evaluation_by_Michel_Bauwens>.
> How to transition towards partner state practices with a state that is not
> a partner state itself ?
>
> The experience in Catalonia promises to be very different. While the CIC
> endorses the Commons Transition Plan as its own development plan and
> roadmap, of course to be adapted and concretized to their own needs, it
> wants to apply the proposals for the commonification of public services and
> the partner state, not at the state level, but at the civic level. So the
> aim here is to directly create civic institutions which can, within or
> outside of the CIC, carry out the same support functions and enable the
> further expansion of the commons economy, in particular to stimulate
> p2p-based production and manufacturing, which the CIC itself is already
> pioneering. If successful, we may well have a adaptable/changeable but also
> largely replicable model that could be used in other regions of the world
> as well, because it will have been the experience where different pieces of
> successful DNA have come together in a working model.
>
> Here is the announcement of the CIC, translated from Catalan and Spanish:
>
> “*CIC and P2pfoundation strategic partners*
>
> It’s been a while now since some people in the CIC took the initiative to
> start collaborating with the P2P Foundation after certifying our common
> goals. Indeed, the Permanent Assembly of July 27 approved supporting this
> line of strategic partnership between CIC and P2P Foundation.
>
> In fact, the P2P Foundation itself (a foundation for the peer-to-peer
> alternatives), has already expressed the need to partner strategically. You
> can find more information about the purpose of the P2P Foundation on its
> website <http://p2pfoundation.net/>.
>
> Amongst it’s priorities, the P2P Foundation includes the promotion of open
> cooperativism, as explained in this article. In this sense the CIC appears
> as one of the ongoing initiatives with most affinity to these principles of
> open cooperativism, and for both organizations it seems important to keep
> on developing it and make it known.
>
> Another priority of the P2P Foundation, and one of the areas where they
> have developed more research, is to generate transitions towards open
> production processes related to knowledge and towards a social, common
> goods economy. In this sense, they have been collaborating with Flok
> Society, a project financed by the government of Ecuador, for which the
> following document was composed
> <http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan>.
>
> From the core work group of the CIC in this area we have suggested that
> they collaborate with us to tailor a plan of this type for the development
> of CIC in the following 5-10 years. The objective is not as a theoretical
> approximation, but to contribute towards identifying and developing key
> strategic projects that might enable the production of tangible and
> intangible commons to become one of the reference characteristics of the
> CIC’s approach to production.
>
> The P2P Foundation has responded enthusiastically to the proposal, amongst
> other reasons because they will bring their experience and knowledge to a
> grassroots initiative like ours. We are already beginning to form a joint
> working group so as to get started with our work. Michel Bauwens, the P2P
> foundation’s co-founder, expressed his intention to find funding for this
> project through several independent european foundations.
>
> In addition to these initiatives, as strategic partners, new ways for
> collaboration will most certainly appear in the future.”
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Brian Holmes <bhcontinentaldrift at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> On 08/02/2014 01:29 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>>
>>> I have one question, you say Minqi Li says there is no longer a reserve
>>> periphery .. but what about Africa ? (and the rise of latin america in
>>> the naugthies ?)
>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Rise_of_China_and_the_Demise_of_
>>> the_Capitalist_World-Economy
>>>
>>
>> Minqi Li's claim is that too many formerly peripheral countries --
>> especially the giants, India and China -- have moved into the position of
>> what the world systems theorists call "semi-peripheral" countries,
>> supplying mid-range or partially elaborated products to the central,
>> high-technology producers. The result is a declining pool of people to
>> exploit, both in terms of labor and resources, and in terms of defenseless
>> markets that must necessarily buy products from the center. When large
>> percentages of the world population have access to at least mid-level
>> producer technology, capital can no longer accumulate at the former
>> centers, whose power declines. The current state of affairs in Western
>> Europe and the US/Canada seems to bear this thesis out.
>>
>> In such a perspective, Michel, your ideas and those of everyone working
>> on p2p and commons approaches become far more pertinent. When the centers
>> of capital accumulation can off the fruits of very high technology to all
>> of those, across the world, who rise into the middle classes, then there is
>> scant likelihood of winning them over to a cooperative approach -- the
>> powers of capitalist seduction are just too strong. Yet in a condition of
>> long-term stagnation, coupled with environmental threats stemming directly
>> and visibly from capital accumulation, alternative proposals may become
>> much more attractive across a flattening global hierarchy.
>>
>> Of course I agree with Orsan that everything possible must always be
>> tried right now. But it is encouraging to realize that over the middle
>> term, there are some dynamics going our way. It is tough to sustain the
>> fascist-type solution for very long. Too many people have too much agency,
>> even under severe conditions. If it is true that capitalism can no longer
>> produce employment of even the precarious kind that prevailed under the
>> last cycle, then there is really room for something new under the sun,
>> that's what I see as an historic chance.
>>
>> warmly, Brian
>>
>
>
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