[P2P-F] crazy idea

Dante-Gabryell Monson dante.monson at gmail.com
Sat Apr 12 01:29:15 CEST 2014


Thanks Maja

Fairphone sounds nice.

Also, if I read it properly,
the modular google/motorola phone planned for 2015
aims at creating standards so that other companies can create modules that
chip on the mainframe.

Yet google/motorola would keep control on the mainframe... ( but not
necessarily the additional modules ? )

I can imagine open hardware Fairphone modules for such a modular approach ?


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Maja van der Velden <maja at xs4all.nl>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For those living in Europe, there is the Fairphone. The first edition of
> this smartphone was produced through crowd-sourcing and shipped last
> December/January. It is not yet a modular phone - but I think that one is
> in the making. Only 25.000 Fairphones were produced in the first round.
> Spare parts and a repair manual are available. The second round consists of
> 35.000 Fairphones and the pre-sale starts in May.
>
> The Fairphone is fair in many different ways (free/open source software,
> rootable, transparent pricing, non-conflict minerals, worker rights, ewaste
> solution, double sim, replaceable battery, etc.). The philosophy behind
> Fairphone is to have fewer mobile phones around, not more. Secondly, the
> real goal is not just a fair mobile phone, but a circular economy. As a
> Fairphone buyer, you become an investor in a workers welfare fund in China
> and an e-waste project in Ghana.
>
> The Fairphone is not 100% fair and 100% perfect - but it is the best
> available at the moment. All this and more can be read on the Fairphone
> website/blog. Browse through the pages and blog entries - there is a lot of
> interesting information.
>
> http://www.fairphone.com/
>
> Greetings,
>
> Maja - a happy Fairphone owner
>
> On 11 Apr 2014, at 16:58 , Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> *Hi Fabio,*
>
> *potentially open hardware that can be compatible with this google backed
> project ?*
>
> *There is an upcoming developer kit ?*
>
> *And developers conference ...*
>
>
> http://www.projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/
>
> *" We are excited to announce the first Ara Developers Conference, to be
> held April 15-16, 2014. The Developers Conference will be held at the
> Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. Registration is
> currently open to attend in person or online. Online attendees will be able
> to view a live webstream and ask questions. "*
>
> http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/project-ara-developer-kit/
>
> " Google <http://mashable.com/category/google/> released its first set of
> guidelines for developers hoping to participate in Project Ara<http://mashable.com/category/project-ara/>,
> the company's platform for building modular smartphones. The first
> version of Project Ara's Module Development Kit was released Wednesday. "
>
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1JzJadgHY
>
> based on this initial suggestion
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c
>
> ///
>
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>
> concept of having a single phone that you continuously upgrade over a few
> years, rather than wastefully replace in its entirety, could soon be a
> reality.
> ...
>
> The initial target is to sell a barebones endoskeleton for $50 at
> convenience stores. This phone will have a WiFi module, an emergency
> battery... and that's it. To add more functionality, you would buy more
> modules (a screen, camera, some NAND flash storage, cellular modem) and
> slot them in. There will also be three sizes -- mini, medium, and jumbo --
> with "jumbo" equating to roughly phablet sized. While Google intends to
> open up the modules to third parties, the endoskeletons will always be
> Google-branded. (They have to make their money somehow.) As it currently
> stands, ATAP is hoping that the commercialized modules will be 4mm thick,
> resulting in a phone that is 10mm thick.
>
>
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/169767-motorola-and-google-unveil-upgradeable-modular-smartphone-platform
>
> For Project Ara, Motorola (now owned by Google<http://www.extremetech.com/computing/92786-google-buys-motorola-begins-transformation-into-apple>)
> teamed up with Dave Hakkens, the creator of Phonebloks<http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/166570-phonebloks-modular-upgradeable-smartphones>.
> Phonebloks were a concept for how you might possibly create a modular
> smartphone -- but it was very much just a concept, without much
> consideration of the physical, commercial, or legal constraints. Motorola's
> Project Ara, on the other hand, appears to be more firmly seated in reality.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Fabio Barone <holon.earth at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I just watched the following video about smartphones and their human cost.
>> Warning, it's shocking.
>>
>>
>> http://sharepowered.com/see-the-human-cost-of-your-iphone-and-it-will-shock-you/#
>>
>> I wondered,
>>
>> how feasible is it to:
>> - create a global professionally managed p2p brand (here: for
>> smartphones, e.g. urphone.net)
>> - fabricate "clean" (whatever is possible here) smart phones in regional
>> fablabs or even hackerspaces under that brand
>> - profits shared all over the brand
>>
>> I apologize for my impulsive post,
>> it may be pure nonsense,
>> but I wonder
>>
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