[P2P-F] crazy idea

Sat Apr 12 13:43:36 CEST 2014

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On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Maja
>
> Fairphone sounds nice.
>
> Also, if I read it properly,
> the modular google/motorola phone planned for 2015
> aims at creating standards so that other companies can create modules that
> chip on the mainframe.
>
> Yet google/motorola would keep control on the mainframe... ( but not
> necessarily the additional modules ? )
>
> I can imagine open hardware Fairphone modules for such a modular approach ?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Maja van der Velden <maja at xs4all.nl>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For those living in Europe, there is the Fairphone. The first edition of
>> this smartphone was produced through crowd-sourcing and shipped last
>> December/January. It is not yet a modular phone - but I think that one is
>> in the making. Only 25.000 Fairphones were produced in the first round.
>> Spare parts and a repair manual are available. The second round consists of
>> 35.000 Fairphones and the pre-sale starts in May.
>>
>> The Fairphone is fair in many different ways (free/open source software,
>> rootable, transparent pricing, non-conflict minerals, worker rights, ewaste
>> solution, double sim, replaceable battery, etc.). The philosophy behind
>> Fairphone is to have fewer mobile phones around, not more. Secondly, the
>> real goal is not just a fair mobile phone, but a circular economy. As a
>> Fairphone buyer, you become an investor in a workers welfare fund in China
>> and an e-waste project in Ghana.
>>
>> The Fairphone is not 100% fair and 100% perfect - but it is the best
>> available at the moment. All this and more can be read on the Fairphone
>> website/blog. Browse through the pages and blog entries - there is a lot of
>> interesting information.
>>
>> http://www.fairphone.com/
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Maja - a happy Fairphone owner
>>
>> On 11 Apr 2014, at 16:58 , Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> *Hi Fabio,*
>>
>> *potentially open hardware that can be compatible with this google backed
>> project ?*
>>
>> *There is an upcoming developer kit ?*
>>
>> *And developers conference ...*
>>
>>
>> http://www.projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/
>>
>> *" We are excited to announce the first Ara Developers Conference, to be
>> held April 15-16, 2014. The Developers Conference will be held at the
>> Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. Registration is
>> currently open to attend in person or online. Online attendees will be able
>> to view a live webstream and ask questions. "*
>>
>> http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/project-ara-developer-kit/
>>
>> " Google <http://mashable.com/category/google/> released its first set
>> of guidelines for developers hoping to participate in Project Ara<http://mashable.com/category/project-ara/>,
>> the company's platform for building modular smartphones. The first
>> version of Project Ara's Module Development Kit was released Wednesday. "
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1JzJadgHY
>>
>> based on this initial suggestion
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c
>>
>> ///
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>>
>> concept of having a single phone that you continuously upgrade over a
>> few years, rather than wastefully replace in its entirety, could soon be a
>> reality.
>> ...
>>
>> The initial target is to sell a barebones endoskeleton for $50 at
>> convenience stores. This phone will have a WiFi module, an emergency
>> battery... and that's it. To add more functionality, you would buy more
>> modules (a screen, camera, some NAND flash storage, cellular modem) and
>> slot them in. There will also be three sizes -- mini, medium, and jumbo --
>> with "jumbo" equating to roughly phablet sized. While Google intends to
>> open up the modules to third parties, the endoskeletons will always be
>> Google-branded. (They have to make their money somehow.) As it currently
>> stands, ATAP is hoping that the commercialized modules will be 4mm thick,
>> resulting in a phone that is 10mm thick.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/169767-motorola-and-google-unveil-upgradeable-modular-smartphone-platform
>>
>> For Project Ara, Motorola (now owned by Google<http://www.extremetech.com/computing/92786-google-buys-motorola-begins-transformation-into-apple>)
>> teamed up with Dave Hakkens, the creator of Phonebloks<http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/166570-phonebloks-modular-upgradeable-smartphones>.
>> Phonebloks were a concept for how you might possibly create a modular
>> smartphone -- but it was very much just a concept, without much
>> consideration of the physical, commercial, or legal constraints. Motorola's
>> Project Ara, on the other hand, appears to be more firmly seated in reality.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Fabio Barone <holon.earth at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I just watched the following video about smartphones and their human
>>> cost.
>>> Warning, it's shocking.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://sharepowered.com/see-the-human-cost-of-your-iphone-and-it-will-shock-you/#
>>>
>>> I wondered,
>>>
>>> how feasible is it to:
>>> - create a global professionally managed p2p brand (here: for
>>> smartphones, e.g. urphone.net)
>>> - fabricate "clean" (whatever is possible here) smart phones in regional
>>> fablabs or even hackerspaces under that brand
>>> - profits shared all over the brand
>>>
>>> I apologize for my impulsive post,
>>> it may be pure nonsense,
>>> but I wonder
>>>
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